Out of the way! Best Disney Princess coming through!
>>105834727not a disney princess. a lloyd alexander princess.
>>105834727God damn.. that's gotta be the hardest girls name to pronounce. But she is pretty cute.
>>105839219[Elonvy]It is that simple
>>105839219It's just Welsh, they're only spelled odd to us because of the unique orthography, like Irish names (Siobhan, Sean).
>>105839219>>105843192And yes, she is pretty cute.
>>105834727What? Where's Moana? Who the fuck is this dumb blonde?
>>105843237The princess who saved the main character
I can't be the only one that sees a resemblance.
>>105843430I came here to post Calla.
Welsh and Irish should just be exterminated.
>>105843529Well the anglos tried but then they gave up like the sof-hearted fools they are.
>>105834727>Best Disney PrincessI don't see Gurgi anywhere.
I watched it dubbed into Japanese on Nico Douga. Her name was translated as エロイ媛 there which can be read as "erotic princess". Commenters found this endlessly amusingI remember seeing a commercial as a kid in the 80s and in it, they spoiled this kiss
>>105844042>I remember seeing a commercial as a kid in the 80s and in it, they spoiled this kissThe goal was to make you feel funny in your pants so that you’d watch it. Disney knows what they’re doing
>>105834727when is Disney gonna make another series for her
>>105845232The Black Couldron is a secret shame for them rivaled only by Song of the South, the answer is never. Shame as if the cut footage still exists (even in crappy videotape dailies form like all the cut footage on the Criteron Breakfast Club blu-ray) they could sell a lot of discs using it as a lure for enthusiasts, but it will never happen
>>105843968>sof-hearted foolsMore like incompetent buffoons.
>>105845312>The two films Disney are most ashamed of are two of their best films
>>105846067The Black Cauldron is alright but clearly butchered to hell in editing, it’s far from the worst but it’s a real stretch to call it one of their best.And Song of the South is just fucking dull as hell
>>105845312Why is it a 'secret shame'? I watched it as a kid and always thought it was a staple Disney film of that era.
>>105839219>She was called just Elena in Spanish dub
>>105846989It was a financial disaster and the management at the time (that came into power halfway through production and demanded many changes) hated it and the fact that it was originally targeted towards older audiences. It’s definitely a black sheep in their filmography that’s said to have nearly destroyed the company and Japan is the only place where it’s ever had much acknowledgement (Tokyo Disneyland had a spook house attraction that featured Eilonwy), probably for the loli princess factor.
>>105846989It was their foray into a darker story movie, and then it didn’t do too well in the box office.
>>105847074>>105847080Sounds a lot like the same issues Treasure Planet / Atlantis had. Disney can't commit to anything can they.
>>105847183Treasure Planet and Atlantis also had the pressure of competing with Harry Potter and Shrek at the time of their releases, meanwhile Black Cauldron was beaten by the fucking Care Bears movie.
You spelled "Aurora" wrong.
>>105847074>Japan is the only place where it’s ever had much acknowledgement (Tokyo Disneyland had a spook house attraction that featured Eilonwy), probably for the loli princess factor.Why is Japan so based to Westerners?
>>105845093>>105846841She needs to be protected.
>>105847429If there’s one thing you can count on them for, it’s appreciating little girls
>>105839219>>105843192The movie doesn't even get it right if you go by Welsh pronunciation.It would be; Ey-LON-oo-ee
>>105844612Go to bed, Arawn.***Surprised nobody mentioned she's supposed to be canonically barefoot.It's not actually true, by the way.
>>105847183Yup. Just a bunch of spineless fat cats that refuse to acknowledge the past.
>could have been barefoot>could have had a nude scene>could have been in a good moviealas, what could have been
>>105849255of course it's true, it's in the books>>105849198ooee is the same as wee
>>105850324>it's in the booksIn the books she wears sandals.
>>105850581eventually, and reluctantly
>>105844042The movie was terrible, but this kiss was cute.
>>105850841I read the books and I was looking out for it.There's no indication she was ever barefoot, alas.
>>105850918movie was fine, kiss was awkward and looked weird, as you'd expect from literally heads being mashed together. that probably hurt.>>105850929I mean, read them again?
>>105850929You know what "unshod" means, right? Bust out the 3rd book.
>>105850963I wouldn't mind a sequel where the boy and girl are a romantic couple, but in an awkward and innocent way. Maybe the over-arching plot could be them having to deal with the spirit of the Horned King lingering in this world and they must find a way to destroy it or seal it away forever.
>>105843430There has been talk that this show's art started from some leftover black cauldron designsmakes sense, it was their first foray into high-quality tv animation, might as well give yourself a head start and try recycling something that didnt make enough
The movies problem isn't that it's bad, it's simply that nobody has seen it to decide one way or another.
>>105851102Read the books, chum! they earn their happy ending through hardship but it's happy in the end
>>105851132There's books?Fuck man I gotta go find a Hardback.But man I want the Horned King back, just write him like Megabyte instead of a Fancy Robotnik.
>>105847074If it's the one I know Eilonwy was not in that ride, only the Horned king and the cauldron born
Lads I'ma post this in here, the Chronicles of Prydain is one of my favorite book series and I was really sad that they didn't get a full adaption to the movie screen. Like, I read through the series and loved every minute and the ending just left me kind of empty inside because I knew there wasn't anymore>>105851180the books are very good
>>105851238What are the Chronicles of Prydain, is it the stories that inspired the Dark Cauldron?
>>105851326the black cauldron is book 1 of 5, yeah
>>105851326It is! The Dark cauldron is actually the third book in the series and the horned king is actually a servant of the true evil if I remember correctly. The books go hugely more into the lore, the world, and the growth of Tarran, Flewder, and Elionwy. Theres a whole book about Tarran trying to find his parents as well and its very depressing.
>>105851363>Five booksJesusHow big are they, a couple hundred pages?
>>105851384is my memory just fucked
>>105851363>>105851384We are actually both wrong, the black cauldron was actually book 2! Its been a very long time since I have read them. But I highly recommend them to anyone who enjoyed the aesthetic and setting of the movie, or the story.
>>105851399theyre not like full-on huge thick novels. lloyd alexander likes to write for kinda-everybody. before 'young adult' was a genre. he also wrote other good stuff totally worth checking out, like The Remarkable Journey of Prince Jen and uh.. Time Cat>>105851409now that sounds right. but most of the movie was first book.
>>105851467Yes, the movie was mostly an amalgamation of the first two. Which is a shame, as I mentioned Taran the wanderer is my favorite and I'm sad it never got animated
>>105851013I am not going to read COL just for one throwaway phrase.>>105850963>read them again?No. It was youth sentiment. I am glad I read them in the original language, but once was enough.
>>105845312What does Disney have against Black Couldron? I thought a lot of the people that watched it liked it. I'm fully aware of the reasoning for Song of the South though.
>>105851180>There's books?The movie is... well it's Disney.The Horned King doesn't have any speaking lines, for one.>>105851496>Taran wandererHmmm.
>>105851641I am extremely drunk. No Bully. For anyone interested, book 3 has a huge focus on Eilonwy and her life and family history
>>105851628>What does Disney have against Black Couldron?I am guessing it's this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWAq4w1h--M
>>105851688>I am extremely drunk.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18JmieM8SFc
>>105851719Honestly, having memories of watching this as a kid, it didn't really scare me over much and as an adult I really like that animation and art. I guess you could argue its pretty dark but I remember the books having pretty dark descriptions of how the cauldron born come to be anyways. But, I'm fairly biased, I like the series and I like the movie.
>>105851719What do modern media companies have against threatening villains?
>>105851843something similar to, but entirely distinct from, what 80s media companies had against themin between, they were allowed.
>>105851843Making me remember secret of NIMH, american tale, and watership down I guess?
For anyone interested the soundtrack is on youtube and its really good!
>>105834727>ywn see the partial nudity of her that Katzenberg allegedly cut out of the film
>>105847259Correct. Also this is your daily reminder that Disney deliberately set up Treasure Planet to fail to justify scaling back their traditional animation studio.
>>105852034>Disney deliberately set up Treasure Planet to failThey did that with 2011 Winnie The Pooh going up against Harry Potter tooAnd in a way Princess and the Frog vs. Avatar (but no one really could have seen that coming)
>>105846067Black Cauldron I can kinda see but really its just don bluth with -50% soul and -75% plot cohesion. Defiantly not the best but I see why it has fans.You can strait fuck the right off with Song though. It added nothing new to Disney animation, was boring as sin, and would of been completely forgotten shaggy dog style if not for lol tarbaby. Its not even nearly as racist as some other shit that came out in 46. The only reason its remembers because its was Disney.
>>105851384But it turns out okay for him and Elionwy, right? They grow up together, fighting evil and overcoming the Big Bad at the end, and have fully realized character arcs; He becomes the great warrior he's always wanted to be with actual proof of it, and she becomes the ruler her people need?
>>105852079Yeah no, its satisfying and accurate to their characters and good for the world. Its just me, I'm sure, if I get hooked into a book series I really enjoy it and when I finish it, good or bad it feels like a little of my soul goes away when I close the book. Like, they got their ending but I still have a long way to go and my life isn't anywhere near as good or as happy as theirs was. Its like losing a best friend every time you finish a book series. My memory is really good too, so I usually don't re-read books. But especially for stuff like this, I really tend to over empathize with the main character and their hardships and struggles. Its why I like book 4 as much as I do. Taran goes from a young idealistic kid to a mature adult, more accepting of his life but also stronger and sureer about himself and his role in the world, its even commented on by Dallben when he returns. Fictional characters grow up and get arcs, real people just kinda....don't. We have to figure it out for ourselves, its a lot different.
>>105852079You should realize these are kids' books.
>>105851399Each book is maybe 150 pages long. Lloyd Alexander wasn't Robert Jordan, thank goodness.
>>105852034why would anyone WANT to do that? how does it make them more money?>>105852067I prefer my bluth with less soul. he oversouls.song of the south did nothing wrong or right. it was just a thing.
>tfw the reception of KH3 will mean disney will have an even tigher leash and go full shilling for their modern movies and make every level about them>or they'll go in the opposite direction & just let Nomura do what he wants since they won't expect much from the franchise and give him free reign of making choices of what worlds to put in
>>105852347This is a total meme, I've lurked this board for years and nobody's ever posted anything resembling this before. >>105852357They did it because long-term the animation studio wasn't making as much money as the CGI studio and they needed a justification to lay off animators.
>>105852347>>105852373It's not hard to find references to the deleted partial nudity. Google is your friend:https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=the+black+cauldron+eilonwy+partial+nudity
>>105852372>tfw the reception of KH3 will mean disney will have an even tigher leash and go full shilling for their modern movies and make every level about themWhat do you mean by this? Isn't KH3 well received?
>>105852454Who gives a shit about edgelord weeb bs?
>>105852161I recommend you play the game The Void. I feel like that's something you might really like given the context of the books you've read. If not, then read the book "Private Peaceful". I'm the same way with that book.>>105852238Kids Books back when they had balls, it seems.>>105852318He wrote exactly what he needed then.Alright you lot, you've convinced me. I'll go to Half-Price books tomorrow before work and look for a Hardcover.
>>105852506All the people who obviously do and show it by buying the game...?
>>105845093Why both of them have the weird mouth motions
>>105852454Lots of complaints from secondaries for not understanding the story. Basically the equivalent of starting GoT from season 7.
Eilonwy got a cute redesign, but why did they have to turn Fflewddur into some old man
>>105852373are you suggesting to me anyone at the top makes more money when they lay off departments and shrink production overall?
>>105846841>>105846067>>105845312Song of the Black South Cauldron
>>105852540>Kids Books back when they had balls, it seems.Mid-to-late sixties.Seems about right.>>105852827I don't know, why was Rincewind turned into Inspector Frost?
>>105852506square / kh is like the opposite of weeb shit. they have big gross noses and detailed lips.
>>105852616those are normal mouth motions. maybe you're used to don bluth movies>>105852827wasnt he supposed to have like, strawlike yellow hair? big bushy beard?
>>105852697>>105852797Not quite sure what either of you are trying to say here. Rumors about the nudity have been around for decades.
>>105852922Strawlike yellow hair, yes. I always imagined him as something of a human scarecrow, what with that and the lanky build and patchy clothes. I don't remember him having a beard though. Maybe Doli.
>>105853157yeah I might be confusing him with Dolior else I just give everyone a beard by default if theyre old enough because i'm not a homosexual.
>>105853179That's a pretty specific denial anon, we were just talking about beards
>>105853687it was intended to be an accusation levied at anyone who doesnt see lack of beard and go "hey goober, where's the beard?"
>>105851951it's never been confirmed.why would they give their youngest princess to date a nude scene?
>>105854760same reason any normal person does from time to time? bathing, dressing, undressing, knitting exciting underwe- er, making Taran a rope to climb out of a pit with..young makes it LESS strange.
>>105854760Not really a nude scene. The story goes that in an action sequence her dress got ripped, partially revealing some privates
>>105854963Considering the "nude scene" has been both reported as happening when she escapes from the castle or when she's chained up, It seems pretty bunk.>>105855022>partially revealing some privatesLike what? What does that mean?! She never even gets into any action scenes in the movie.You know they would have to reanimate her scenes if her dress was ripped?Doesn't make any sense.
>>105854760BFG movie came out a few years later, Sophie was allowed
>>105855086There's another BFG movie besides the Spielberg one?
>>105834727>Alice was a Princess of Heart>not ElonvyBut it doesn't matter anymore. They just fucking dropped that aspect harder than Lingering Will.
>>105855086That wasn't Disney that was roald dahl, and his stuff usually has an edge to it.Fuck, same movie is about giants eating children.Also, they didn't draw in her nipples and she was very un-sexualized (she looked like a boy)
>>105855120shameful that you didnt know that, but it's never too late to learn>>105855150eat pant
>>105855150black cauldron isn't disney either, it's a lloyd alexander book getting a disney moviethis was a roald dahl book getting a Cosgrove Films movie. and it was pretty toned down in a lot of ways, unfortunately. Still had some nice scary bits but not as good as the book.I dont recall Sophie having a bath in the book, maybe she did.
>>105855188the BFG animated movie was 10 times darker than the book, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.and Black Cauldron is Disney, it only resembles the lloyd alexander books in broad strokes.
>>105855292perhaps tonewise, dahl had a tendency to just gleefully depict the horriffic which softens it for the tone-sensitive, but to me the movie was wayy softened compared to the bookas for the rest of what you said, sounds like you agree with me.
>>105855086With all the the /co/ nudity threads we have I'm surprised I've never seen this come up:https://youtu.be/xm8hrIk6g-o?t=1390
>>105855685have there been a lot of those lately? i hate missing out on them, but the catalog is a damn minefield lately. It's like reading the news. I dont want my day ruined.
>>105855722>but the catalog is a damn minefield lately. It's like reading the news. I dont want my day ruined.so relatable it hurts
>>105855314The book was way lighter in tone.The movie had ralph bakshi vibes.
>>105855685>bare loli butthow did they get away with it
>>105856009honestly I'm more surprised by her chest being bare. Not even for just a second, either
>>105856009things are easier and make more sense when you remember that good is good and bad is bad, not the other way around.
>>105856028Sad how that distinction is being lost.
>>105856071I blame Michael Jackson.
>>105843430>not posting her pits
>>105856157we need a princess calla thread
>>105856592I'm sure she and Eilonwy would be more than happy to share, they'd be grateful to get any threadery. Plus they're just nice like that, they'd be friends.
>>105856680>Plus they're just nice like that, they'd be friends.Imagine if all the forgotten Disney princesses were friends. Surely some enterprising artist/writer could take a premise like that and make something special.
>>105856745i've seen it before, but it generally centers around Kida, Megara, treasure planet girl, etc. the ugly ones with weird stretched facesBut yeah put Nala in there if this was to be a thing.
>>105843430This show was better than I feel like it had any right to be.
>>105858413that's greg weisman for you.
>>105852861yep, because thats what happens. They cut off anything that isnt making money well (to them) and just rely on what is.See Blizzard Activison right now.
>>105858808but that's stupidthat's like saying hey you can make money on SEVERAL things, all of which make moneyor you can cut off the things making the least money, and thus make less moneyi believe in capitalism, and that means making more money, not less. This sounds more like commie "eliminate 2nd through last places so everyone always comes in first" public school bullshit.
>tfw you remember shipping Taran and Gwydion because you thought Eilonwy was an uppity bitch who didn't deserve love
>>105858853I have learned so much about the insecurities of authors from the flaws given to the primary love interests
>>105858818Read Robert Conqust's third law, it applies to corporations as well. At some point the workers and managers of the corporation stop caring about the well being of the corporation and will do anything to prevent them from losing their cushy position even if in the long run it hurts the corporation. Jus see what is happening with star wars. Normally corporations like disney would get bankrupt and new competent animation studios would rise up but because of government cronyism and government collusion they are too big to fail and also destroy all other competition. The way I see it in order to get companies like disney to fail and allow their competitors to flourish, massive deregulation needs to happen and also huge encouragement and promotion for worker co-operatives such as giving them tax cuts
>>105856025no nipples drawn, that's an easy way to get away with it.Which is funny, because that means they're admitting that nipples are lewd by removing them.
The Black Cauldron was a terrible movie... but some of the best animation I've ever seen.
>>105859534Cute! These four characters really do seem like they could exist in the same universe.
>>105856025Didn’t The Loud Houe show Lynn topless, with nips? I’ll agree it’s rare to see among non-baby female characters though
>>105859534Why did you do that?
>>105856157Well done, anon
It seems like Lloyd Alexander's whole Prydain series sort of vanished entirely from the collective consciousness. They seem to have made quite the impression on kids who read them in the late 60s & early 70s, but besides the '85 Disney film, they just entirely fell off the map.My guess is that they just got completely overshadowed by (a) Tolkien later moving from the underground to the mainstream throughout the 70s and 80s and everyone dismissing Alexander's stuff as derivative and (b) Star Wars coming out in 1977 and making every other work of YA fiction that relies on a generic bildingsroman/hero's journey plot look anemic.
>>105858818Maybe it costs more to make less productive things? Still agree, though.
>>105834727you misspelled "ariel".
>>105851031And this exists, because of course it does...
>>105861999I remember when harry potter came out and I was like FUCK this, this goofy-ass baby magic words magic wand shit is not muh young adult fantasy
>>105852067>The only reason its remembers because its was Disney.And because of Splash Mountain using the animated characters that were the only interesting thing about the movie.
>old bard guy in your heroic party
>>105839219I didn't know how to pronounce Hermione until they started making movies.
>>105866505just once I want to see an RPG party with regular-standard-hero-guy and three oldtimersand they travel around in a wagon because they cant walk that muchbut theyre full of tactical advice, top quality magic, encyclopedic knowledge, and great stories and jokes, so it's just a lot of fun
>>105866598And the question I always feel to ask when I see something like that:Why aren't you writing that story? Used to be, if someone had an idea they did something with it.
>>105861999I didn't read the series til ~2004, my 8th grade English teacher had the whole collection and I fell in love. I got bored of Harry Potter after the 5th book, but I still wish there was more Prydain stuff. It could use a good adaptation.
>>105867208>It could use a good adaptation.Like a TV show. One season? Wouldn't even cost too much, I should think.Eh. Maybe like a bunch of TV movies instead?
>>105867129I might someday, but I have too many other things in line ahead of it.and it really requires the kind of writing skills I don't have. I'm saving it up for my pitch for some kind of road trip formati have a ton of videogame ideas (that will never get beyond 'i drew characters') and a webcomic that is already... kind of waiting to be something else.
>>105867208>>105867398i heard they are
>>105850324I think wee would be like Oui.Maybe OOhee then.
>>105868050it's just the same thing except a little slower
>The closes thing we'll get to an adaptation of Welsh mythology is dead to DisneyHurts man
>>105868113Na, Oui is like wEe.the Wy is like OOH-ee but together.
>>105868253yeah. literally the same thing.look at your mouth while you do it.
>>105839219>that's gotta be the hardest girls name to pronounceIt kinda sounds like an archvile's death throes.
>>105868212Man are you going to be salty when Disney's Cu Chulainn is a runaway success.
>>105868491they cant do it better than Gargoyles did
>still no lewdsDoes no one draw her?
>>105868675I JUST drew lewds of her last week. go to paheal
>>105869155how'd you know I wasn't BluBlush?anyway I'm not 100% happy with her eyes but the commissioner liked it. a lot.
>>105869198I agree with him. Also, what a wholesome picture!No bondage, rape, torture, mutation, hyper, transformation, futa, anal or fetishism - just two teens being adorable.
>>105869309That's what I likesgood oldfashioned rape cen be nice once in a while, but like, in the bodice-ripping oldtimey sense where she's totally into it. If the subjects aren't happy, I'm not terribly happy.Of course when it comes to commissions, you can't be picky. I do so much repetitive bondage crap I don't put online.
>>105861999Eh, fantasy was never mainstream until the Harry Potter books and the LOTR movies. The LOTR books were just as obscure to general audiences like Prydain and Dark is Rising and other series until it got movies.Harry Potter connected with kids who grew up alongside him. But then so did Taran and his first readers, but he didn't get a movie push until his series was over.
>>105869466Also in the US and elsewhere, Scholastic helped sell the Potter books a lot as school media. Though I don't know about the UK where it started, I guess it was similar. And this was in the days where the internet was exploding so fandoms could grow much quicker than through meetups.
>>105870029I don't THINK that's against any rulesjust go to kairu-hakubi on deviantart. email's right there
>>105851467>theyre not like full-on huge thick novels. lloyd alexander likes to write for kinda-everybody. before 'young adult' was a genre.I miss when the kid's adventure books genre wasn't all just massive chonk books and endless series.Rowling changed shit.
>>105870250eh, His Dark Materials was pretty thickwhich just made me feel like an idiot when I got sudden-pointless-contrived-tragedy'd at the end and regretted reading it at all.then later found out the guy was a massive fedora, and what I took as specifically anti-catholicism (and thus pro christianity) was in fact just clumsy anti religion overall. Even weirder than finding out Dogma wasn't a specific knock on catholics. Sometimes I feel like nobody is with me and everything is better in my head
>>105861999Its hard to keep books aimed at this age level relevant through ages. Harry Potter is a freak occurrence that is immortalized through the movie series. Young reader books can become standards because they're used to teach kids. But when you get to stuff aimed at kids ages 8 onwards, there's such a branching of tastes its hard to be relevant to all kids which keeps it niche, and as those kids grow they hop onto more complex books, or at least ones aimed at higher reading levels or seem more mature. The books they read in the middle , between their early childhood and adulthood, get forgotten; they don't talk about them, don't recommend them, don't analyze them. As a result,they don't get preserved in pop culture as well.A similar thing happened with animorphs; they attempted a relaunch but it didn't resonate with modern kids or wasn't marketed properly.
>>105870203Yeah I realized like a second after I posted that that I could've just searched for ColdFusion on DA lol You should get on Pixiv too, less restrictions there
>>105870388all the more reason it's bafflingharry potter is the antithesis of what makes something good and likeable to kids. it goes out of its way to be babyshit-flavored, despite being good down to its skeletonbones. i think it was all just manufactured. everyone acted like they'd never read fantasy before in their lifeit's like people acting like zootopia invented furry
>>105870500have an account, don't use it. might someday.
>>105869466Tolkien was very popular in the hippy counterculture of the late 60's and early 70s. Led Zeppelin is the obvious one, and who can forget Leonard Nimoy's hilariously campy flower power anthem "The Legend of Bilbo Baggins." It also tied in very closely with the British medieval folk rock scene that was popular at that time, like Fairport Convention and early Jethro Tull.
>>105870301The ending was definitely pretty contrived to be a downer.
>>105870536You underestimate how infrequently most people read for pleasure.Harry Potter was freak event because there was significant peer-pressure involved - you didn't want to be the only person in your peer group who didn't read it. For some people today, Harry Potter is still the most recent book they read that they weren't forced to for school.
>>105870776you're fucking kidding me. peer groups telling each other to read harry potter?i don't fucking think so. I was there at the time.
bump for best princess
>>105851031Bathing with her clothes on? What is she, Mormon?
>>105871838in this case she's not taking a bath, she was using a washtub to escape getting wet in a flooded roomi think
>>105868491What are they gonna call it? The Hound?
>>105855685It's come up before.
>>105845093Taran is just a less cool Zelda with sword.
>>105873415a less cool awesome-thing-we-never-get is still an awesome-thing-we-never-get
>>105834727Why do I get this movie mixed up with 'The Sword In The Stone'.
>>105873589also similar feel, but that was an earlier disney era
>>105864948>>105851031tell me this show exists in HD
>>105870827I was there too. I knew people who didn't read anything else (and one who stopped after the third book because they got too long for his attention span).
>>105873750oyanon, has anything you ever care deeply about gotten a really fucked up in-name-only adaptation with a bunch of shit changed to suit a totally different narrative?
>>105873798Yeah. Ghost in the Shell.
>>105873798How do religious people reconcile with billions of people believing their different religions are the one true religion and even those are divided up into different ways to worship? Like what do they teach in catholic church that deals with this question?
>>105873806How did that turn out by the way? Ive seen a lot of defenders back before it came out.
>>105873877it helps when we don't have the shit YOU've been taught blaring at us night and day confusing us with ridiculous ideas about 'billions of different religious beliefs'there's like six.they're bad copies of the right one. once you look at it that way, it makes perfect sense.and catholics teach that dudes in tall hats have the right to decide everything, even when they contradict themselves. and the book. the book that specifically says 'don't listen to weird guys who make positions for themselves and start making up rules and methods of worship'it's realllly not that complicated. and the more you study about the roman empire, the less any of it surprises you
>>1058739686 is more than one. I grew up in Billy Graham country and evangelicals come off the same as used car salesmen to me so I never had a chance at being religious. I'm not down right against it. I mean if I win $1000 on a lottery ticket I think damn I'm lucky, that's not to far from damn I'm blessed. Just wondering how that is dealt with internally. Especially with religions that grow from the same tree like Abrahamic ones.
>>105851843They are disturbed by anyone daring to entertain the idea that they might lose.
>>105873806Yeah, the anime doesn't do the manga justice at all.
>>105874007i have found that, ironically given the sad state of american christians in believing (what is almost certainly the devil saying) that entertainment media is harmful, it takes a solid grounding in fiction to understand the way religion works, especially with that whole 'abrahamic' neologism. There's canon, retcons, fanfiction, sequels, even the odd prequel.those sleazy TV guys operating out of tents probably don't want people understanding fictional tropes because they'd recognize it when they saw it.
>>105861999The oldschool pre modernish kingdom of a vague size, small with many unonowns about the wider world, died. Id guess its because EPIC SCALE and POWER LEVELS got too popular. Cant just have stories set in a smallish kingdom with nice tucked away communities
>>105870776Meh, I was first offered Harry Potter in the 3rd grade, in 98/99 i think, cant remember..... It was 99I read a few pages and didnt care. I read significant other books and fantasy books from then to middle school, at which point I think i got some as a birthday gift so i read them.I had placed a higher priority on Julies Wolves, Black Stallion/other horse series, Hero and the Crown(Damned good two book series).And Redwall. And some others at the local school library.
>>105852372Disney has never really paid attention to their games beyond asking for minor things from their partners.
>>105873925They took a bunch of scenes from the 95 movie and wrote a terrible teen movie around them with some nods to SAC.>>105874033Yeah where were all the lesbian cybersex orgies?
>>105874129fuck yeah Redwall was my jam in 98-99and Xanth, because it had boobies
>>1058512381000% agree>>105851326The Chronicles of Prydain are like a distillation of Welsh mythology, which is the lesser known family of celtic myths compared to the Irish, but still contains great stuff like The Mabinogion.The Horned King is just the servant or Arawn the Death-Lord, king of Otherworld, a mythic figure whom in later Welsh stories was renamed or supplanted by "Gwyn Ap Nudd" - "white son of Nudd", I believe both figures are depicted leading The Wild Hunt, and Gwyn Ap Nudd is pictured as a man with antlers and a blackened face riding a horse, accompanied by white dogs with red ears, and a host of his fairy subjects, and the the souls of the men they've kidnapped for their host.You see, The Wild Hunt is the old-world version of Ghost Riders In The Sky.
I would like to see a restored version of this.
>>105874033I meant the Hollywood movie, but yeah, the anime is really dumbed down compared to the manga.
>>105874549>The Wild Hunt is the old-world version of Ghost Riders In The Sky.You're a Yankee, aren't you, mate?
>>105874787And it's the better for it: it has a unified narrative.Shame about the porn though.
>>105868715You should be ashamed of yourself