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What's so special about her that a genius scientist who can buid revolutionary nanotech equipment that can mind control anyone becomes crazy about her and throw his life away just for some puss ?
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Is the mad hatter origin story the same in the comics ?
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>>105238218
he was supposedly crazy long before becoming a villain unlike a lot of batman baddies, but his was just "creepy guy" not "child abducting quasi rapist" before his genius breakthrough with the hat stuff. basically he was just an autist really into wonderland the same way people are into sonic or mlp
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>>105238339
Too bad 4chan didn't exist back then, he could have channeled his incel tendencies and avoid being a full fledged psychopath
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>>105238381
>>implying r9k doesn't intensify incel degeneracy
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>>105238218
Jarvis was crazy, she had nothing to do with it.
You sound like one of those creepy cunts who think the girl is always asking for it.
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>>105238808
Asking for what
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>>105238218
He saw a character that fit his own escapist fantasies. He never really loved her, just the fact that she was “Alice”
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>>105238381
>>105238544
Why is incel the most cancerous roastie forced meme to exist?
Couldn't use figurative language (as with "roastie") so you had to rely on robotic abbreviations like a dumb sjw.
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>>105238887
Whatever they got coming, dude. It's always their fault. It's never about some guy being a creep.
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>>105239001
I see acronyms are totally cool though.
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>>105238544
>incel degeneracy
>sexual purity is degeneracy
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>>105239117
It's lazy and a sign of lack of creative thought.
Which explains a lot really.
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>>105238240
>Is the mad hatter origin story the same in the comics ?

The only retelling it ever got outside of the original Silver Age appearance was in some miniseries by Sam Kieth that nobody read. Through the Looking Glass, I think. It isn't even on ReadComicsOnline.

And his Silver Age origin was just "lol I'm a thief and I theme myself after Alice in Wonderland yes that's it".
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>>105239001
I don't know what roasty means
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>>105239213
Maybe because you're stupid and lack imagination.
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>>105238218
I though he stole the invisible technology from somewhere else.
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>>105239259
Rude
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>>105239001
There is a tremendous difference between being an awkward guy who has bad luck with girls and being an incel. It's a mindset.

And only incels see someone use the word incel and feel personally attacked. Way to out yourself champ
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>>105239001
>Why is incel the most cancerous roastie forced meme to exist?
Anons, incel are literally the one who started calling themselves incels.

and most people here are dude and use the word incels too.
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>>105239138
Incel.

Involuntary celibacy.

You dumb shits are virgins because you can't get laid and get mad at everyone else.
>>105239403
This. Incels get mad because of shit they started. It's so fucking pathetic.
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>>105239157
Did you even read what I wrote?
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>>105239403
If I guy tries his luck with girls and fails for whatever reason, he's single. A bachelor.

If a guy tries once or never at all, and wallows in self-loathing and misogyny, railing at the world for not giving him what he believes he is owed, he is an incel.
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>>105239403
I'm an incel by choice
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>>105239388
>And only incels see someone use the word incel and feel personally attacked.
Some people are "involuntary non celibate" and see issues with this meme.
But go ahead and generalise like a mouth breather anyway.
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>>105239491
acronyms are more initials, abbreviations are more letters.
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>>105239519
That makes you a VOLUNTARY CELIBATE YOU MONGOLOID.

It would make you just celibate. Chaste. Abstinent.

You imbecile. You dumb fool.
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>>105239485
>You dumb shits are virgins because you can't get laid and get mad at everyone else.
But you use that term to describe EVERYONE with misogyny, like you pretend that all misogynists are like that.
The reality is that most virgins are beta as fuck left wingers.
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>>105239540
Y'all motherfuckers were the ones who came up woth the name! You bred the culture of hating women who won't give you sex.

You generalize all women as roasties and thots who won't give you the time of day, but get all pissy when we generalize all 50 of you as pathetic rape larpers.

Don't like the stigma behind incel? Don't call yourself one.
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>>105239688
>Y'all motherfuckers were the ones who came up woth the name!
>he doesn't know what a forced meme is
>he wasn't here to see it emerge strangely round the time Julian Assange got dirt on Clinton

Oh boy.
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>>105239626
Most virgins are children. Human beings who haven't copulated yet.

You guts act like sex is this huge rite of passage that you're victimized by having missed out on. That's a meme pushed by late 20th century Hollywood to sell sex to teenages.

Intercourse is a social-reproductive exchange between two primates. That's it.
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>>105239540
>involuntary non celibate
what the hell is that supposed to mean?
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>>105239762
>sex is not a rite of passage
>btw, if you haven't had sex yet, you're a child not an adult
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>>105239626
Occam's razor. Incels get bitchy at women, so it's common sense to assume that every dipshit bitter at DA ROASTEES for not holding their hand is an incel NPC.
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>>105239388
There’s not much of a functional difference between an awkward guy who’s bad with women and an incel, unless you’re looking at it from the perspective of a woman.

Women:
>Man who is bad with women
>Man who hates women

Men:
>Man not getting laid
>Man not getting laid

And seeing as “incel” is the new “virgin” when used to put down others, it’s not hard to see why an awkward guy would be sensitive to the word as well. The double talk when it comes to sex is frustrating for anyone who’s not having it. It’s either the utmost special gift a woman can bestow upon a man, or it’s something to be given out like as freely as Halloween candy. I don’t understand why it’s not understandable how someone could be pushed to toxic bitterness when they’re constantly denied an experience many consider a cornerstone of the human experience and practically a necessity for living a happy, healthy life.
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>>105239762
>Most virgins are children.
Obviously wasn't including them.

And the issue is people being unable to get with roasties because roasties are indoctrinated dumb shits that won't go after anyone that doesn't look like either their porn fetish or the celeb in their favourite show.
Which is a bit ironic.

>>105239773
Rape.
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>>105239708
>>Incels aren't manchildren who refuse to better themselves. They're the victims of a liberal conspiracy

You are truly beyond all hope. I pray to God you never get to reproduce. There are enough stupid people on the planet
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>>105239866
>Occam's razor
Forced meme more like.
The meme was spammed in late 2016, which makes it extremely suspicious.

> Incels get bitchy at women
>implying non-virgins don't get bitch at women
Most misogynists tend to actually be non-virgin from my experience, after they get fucked over by their gf or wife.
My pop was a big time mysogynist.

It's like women like abuse.
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ITT: bitter incels get pissy when people point out how pathetic it is that they blame women for all their problems
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>>105239941
>still shilling this stupid conspiracy theory
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>>105239866
>so it's common sense to assume that every dipshit bitter at DA ROASTEES for not holding their hand is an incel NPC.
And most seem to be angry at the idea of ruining virgin women, not their own sex life. Why? Stds.
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>>105239873
>implying there weren't literal organisations paid to spam here back then
You are beyond help. You live a lie.
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>>105239948
Well, if my only problem with my situation is I can’t get fucked, it’s not a stretch to blame the gatekeepers who have no consistent rules for entry
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>>105239960
I bet you think Shareblue is a conspiracy.
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>>105239941
Yeah, but ALL you children do is get bitchy at women. Fuck's sake, go outside! Get a hobby! Talk to people! And by "people", I mean "a therapist", because holy shit
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>>105239138
Sexual purity isn’t a real thing, you virgin
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>>105239995
Eh, there is a problem with betas and not being able to get some.
But my problem is that people use a forced meme to misrepresent anons as part of that in order to negatively condition people away from the ideas of their post.

That grinds my fucking gears and it has become increasing common since 2016.
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>>105239987
>incel saying somebody else is beyond help and living a lie
Psychological projection. Look it up.
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>>105239995
>it's everyone's fault but mine!
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>>105240034
>Fuck's sake, go outside! Get a hobby! Talk to people!
>he posts this on 4chan

Confirmed not from 4chan.
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>>105240077
>Psychological projection.
>which he literally did the post before

Are you paid for this or something?
You sound EXACTLY like a shill on /biz/
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>>105240089
Dipshit, I've been here since 2007. Thing is, I realised there's stuff outside of the chan. Hell, I'm going to meet up with some friends tomorrow to hang out and check out a gaming cafe. There's a world out there, so why not see it instead of whining about the mean girls won't touch your ding-a-ling?
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>>105240122
Serious question: do you have any arguments besides NO U and calling people shills?
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>>105238218
There isn't anything special about her, most high tier spergs latch on to the first woman that shows them ANY affection without regard to things like looks or personality, in fact if you were to corner Jarvis and ask her what he likes about her he'd probably sputter something about her being "nice" as though that is a real personality trait and not polite filler for "uninteresting"
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>>105239948
It's like being a bad hunter, and blaming the deer
I knew a kid back in school. He was easily 300 pounds and looked like a white Gabriel Iglesias. But he was funny, really charming, and flirted without being a creep. He could be nice without being creepy, and could be aloof and flippant enough to be fascinating.

He asked out Sarah, the volleyball champ, back in 2011 and their getting married in May.

It's about working with what you got and ACTUALLY FUCKING TRYING. Nobody falls out of their mother Casanova.
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>>105240152
This is 4chan nigger.
Of course I don't. Nobody does. You're all faggots.
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It kind of pisses me off how writers dropped the ball with Jervis for so long. There's a genuine good story here delving into Batman's own escapism and control. But apparently they seem content keeping him a joke and a pedophile
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because he's an incel
next question
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>>105239688
>Y'all
if you've never heard someone in overalls say that irl you shouldn't say or type it.
>You generalize all women as roasties and thots who won't give you the time of day, but get all pissy when we generalize all 50 of you as pathetic rape larpers.
The type of women who unironically use "incel" as an insult are on the same tier as the type of men who use roastie, the pot is screaming about how black the kettle is lmao
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>>105240088
It is, I don’t expect nearly as much out of women as they seem to expect from men. All I really care about is being with someone I enjoy spending time with. Skinny, fat, big tits, small tits, anything is cool with me so long as I like to spend time with you. I can’t help but feel like that the minimum barrier is the ability to be a provider if push came to shove, and it takes a lot of work in all areas of like to be in that position.
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To answer OP's question, it was more the fact that she was one of the few people who was genuinely kind to him. That and his obsession with Alice in Wonderland played into his mental health issues.
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>>105240139
>Hell, I'm going to meet up with some friends tomorrow to hang out and check out a gaming cafe.
>There's a world out there, so why not see it instead of whining about the mean girls won't touch your ding-a-ling?

So you're a newfag pretending not to be a newfag?
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>>105240273
>It is
God damn it, do you even listen to yourself?
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>>105240271
Nice deflection, you pathetic sack of shit
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>>105240291
No, I'm an oldfag who is also a human being.

You're just an NPC.
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>>105240122
>>105240152
Isn't that cute? He thinks we're the same people!

Every hardship of his life is his to overcome. No one is persecuting him. He looks at the random obstacles in his life's path and sees malevolent patterns.

Human willpower can move mountains. One person can change the world. If a little girl in buttfuck Shariastan can stand up for herself and face down the people who are ACTUALLY oppressing others, this guy can take a shower and learn to talk to human beings.
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>>105240252
Why the fuck does "incel" even come up in a Batman thread.
Maybe that's why Batman sucks now.
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>>105240346
buddy i wish it wasn't relevant either but here we fucking are
jervis tetch becomes a supervillain because his oneitis rejected him
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>>105240323
Said the newfag still mad that he's been caught out.

>>105240338
Nice reddit spacing.
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>>105240364
>oneitis
>it's an actual meme now
>ripped off boneitis

I am so done.
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>>105239586
What?
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>>105240438
Well, he's sorta right, you can have abbreviations as an acronym, but generally they're more initials.
Yeah I dun goofed there.
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>>105240293
Listen faggot, right now I am living my truth and if that’s not good enough for the “Just Be Yourself” era then you can go fuck yourself. If I was interested in improving for my own sake, I would have done it. The only reason I feel I need to change is for the attention of others and if that doesn’t pan out, then what? Fucking cunt.
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>>105239158
Didn't Greg Hurwitz give him a origin story also? I remember that being as shitty as the Scarecrow one.
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>>105240271
I live on a farm in Missouri fag
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But what if?
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What makes him cool that he represents the average social failure who spends their entire day with wish fulfilment and fictional stories aimed that children, completely detaching themselves from reality in the progress. His projects all of it onto real people even though that is nonsense for obvious reasons.
He's basically a fangirl/manchild. I wish the writers would use this interpretation of him more often but it would probably trigger a huge part of the readerbase.
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>>105240273
You should try being someone a girl can enjoy spending her time with.
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>>105240388
>>Formatting my words so my post isn't an unreadable block of text invalidates my point

Nice deflection incel. Right up there with "your mom."
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>>105240551
I don’t even talk to them so how could they know? How do you know I’m not?
>the person you are on 4chan is who you actually are
Only brainlets believe this.
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>>105240501
Yeah, that was a post New 52 story arc in his Dark Knight series. Never followed DC after New 52, so I was just thinking Post Crisis. (and even then, Kieth's retelling of Mad Hatter's origin doesn't work Post Crisis since it has Robin in it, and Long Halloween had Mad Hatter established as a villain before Robin existed).
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>>105238218
Oh for fuck's sake. Mad Hatter is deeply insecure and emotionally fragile; rather than face the world completely or risk his own ego he filters everything through an elaborately constructed fantasy. He's so fragile a person it's not even his own fantasy, he has to borrow someone else's fantasy world to vicariously live through because he has no faith in himself. The Mad Hatter is an adopted persona that Jervis uses to facilitate his interactions with the world because he's emotionally unable to express himself unless he's LARPing. He hates himself. He hates his life. His obsession is a surrealistic fantasyland to which one can escape and his focus a character who is freed from constraints yet simultaneously in control. He's Walter Mitty with the mentality of a self-loathing rapist.

>>105240250
Grant Morrison started it 30 years ago, and they haven't stopped pushing it despite no one really wanting it.
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>>105240477
>>Why should I self-improve if I'm not going to get instant gratification?

That's some spoiled babytalk right there young man. Why wipe your ass if it's just gonna get dirty again?
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>>105240626
I mean, yeah? Doesn’t everyone like a return on investment?
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>>105240250
The paedophile angle really is the worst and most lazy possible interpretation but edgelord faggots love it because it muh realism. The escapism part probably hits too close to home anyway.
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>>105240586
If you were actually better than the impression you give us, you wouldn't be whining about incel persecution and roasties
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>>105240586
>How do you know I’m not?
This bit is a clue
>I don’t even talk to them
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>>105240665
Never used the word roastie faggot
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>>105240274
Going by the episode she's probably the only person he actually has a personal relationship with. Considering that she didn't have any issues spending time with him, it seems likely that she thought of him as a friend.
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>>105240598
>Grant Morrison started it 30 years ago
Morrison fucked up the whole Batman universe so bad.
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>>105240685
>being afraid to put yourself out there makes you a bad/uninteresting person
Thanks pham
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>>105240557
>Autistically double spacing each line of a paragraph makes it better to read and isn't just an indicator of you doing something by habit.
Not only is double spacing retarded on 4chan, but it also chews the chans resources more.
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>>105240551
>you should try being a girl
ftfy
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>>105240557
>Right up there with "your mom."
yo mama so fat her food addiction is financially crippling your family along with your father who is an alcohol and is destroying his family.
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I'm an incel because i'm uglly, simple as that

never kissed or hhugged a girl at 25
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>>105240709
You're not just afraid, you're angry and resented. I'm not a very social person, I haven't slept with dozens of girls but I've talked to plenty of them and slept with a few.

And the fact that you're afraid it's not their fault. You need to work over that yourself. You're just expecting them to do all the effort in getting along with you when you're not doing anything.
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>>105240653
Why should I try if I might fail? Why should I learn to walk if I might fall? Why should I seek new experience if they might not all be pleasant.

I'm getting married soon. It's a feeling I cannot describe. It's like I can breathe easier. My feet feel lighter. It's an actual neurochemical high.

Sex isn't the absolute greatest feeling in the world. Love is. You hear all this poetic garbage about love. Love conquers all. Love is all you need. Love lifts us up. It all sounds like bullshit made to sell something. Until you feel it.

Seeking out a relationship just for sex is doomed to fail. Seeking out love is doomed to succeed eventually.

If you cannot bring yourself to crawl out of your den, blinking in the sunlight, to seek out companionship because you're afraid you might fail, I don't know what to tell you.

Love is a ecstasy but it's not a vital one. You can live out your life alone, and I promise you, I don't judge you for that. There's nothing wrong preferring your own company. But to choose such a life out of lazy bitterness, and to wail and that you were forced into it is pathetic and contemptible.
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>>105240824
Get an ugly gf and be happy everafter, making everyone around you miserable.
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>>105240824
Then live your life as a bachelor. Don't be bitter about it.
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>>105240826
>You’re just expecting them to do all the work.
What am I supposed to do when women don’t like unsolicited advances in public places? What am I supposed to do when women don’t like when you try to go in through backdoor via their friendship? I don’t want them to put in all the effort but if there are so many conflicting reports on how to approach women with romantic intent is it so wrong that I would be weary to try without an invitation?
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>>105240932
Try a bar or something
Imagine if there was an app
Netted towards casual dating
Designed for ease and comfort
Everyone on it is as picky as you
Regardless, i don't think you'll try
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>>105240827
In my mind, you can’t have one without the other so it’s not like I’m solely looking for a sexual conquest. If that’s all I was after I imagine I wouldn’t be having these difficulties.
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>>105239868
>an experience many consider a cornerstone of the human experience and practically a necessity for living a happy, healthy life.
lol nah. Only incels think like that.
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>>105240323
>2007
>oldfag
2004 is oldfag, with 2003 being originalfag.
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>>105240827
Man, divorce is going to destroy you.
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>>105240932
Wtf man? Don't do unsolicited advances or try to "go through the backdoor". Just talk to them, if you like them and you feel like they like you, ask them out on a date. If she doesn't want to they'll say no, and if she does they'll say yes.
That's how it works.
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>>105240971
Oh yeah? Which app are you thinking of? I’ve tried Tinder and had one awkward success that kind of dissuaded me from trying it again. I’ve been looking at Bumble primarily because it allows men to effectively swipe left on everyone by default (like they already do manually on Tinder)

If I try another dating app will you try to not be such a unsympathetic condescending faggot?
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>>105238544
It festers until it radicalizes the person but by that time a diet of tendies and instant noodles will have atrophied their legs and liver, thus neutralizing the threat. Ingenious, really.
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>>105240932
Different anon, but do you want to fuck, or a life partner? If the later, you shouldn't be focusing on fucking as your instant goal when you meet someone. You should look for a friend that shares your interests and enjoys your company. How? Do what you do when you make friends with other guys. If she turns you down and she's a bitch? Move on. You're not gonna get a winner the first 5 times.
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>>105241115
i'm here since september
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>>105241010
Then TRY. I'm not going to lie to you, it's not gonna be easy. It's less like learning how to whistle and more like learning how to fly a helicopter.

The reason every bit of advice you hear is contradictory is because every person is different. What works for some might not work for others. Some like bold. Some like shy. Some like casual. Some like genuine. Don't be yourself. Be the best version of yourself. Improve your flaws, but don't replace the parts that make you (YOU)

And there is a huge difference between nice to someone and flirting. Being kind and respectful doesn't equate to courting behaviors. BY ALL MEANS be polite and kind to others. But if you seek romance you have to make your intentions clear. Send signals. Subtle but clear signals. If they are clearly not into you, back off. If you're not sure, back off. If they are direct and tell you they're not interested, bow out respectfully and move on.

And have realistic expectations. An awkward young man formerly of the incel mindset does not get prom queens. You will be flirting with fat girls and ugly girls. You're at the bottom, start at the bottom.
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>>105241126
Yeah that definitely some language to avoid

Have you got friends incelchan? I'm not being mean. If you don't have friends, you've got to learn how to make friends. Girlfriends are literally just friends you stick your penis in.
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>>105241166
What you describe is how I would ideally like to find a life partner, the problem with this is that I’m generally not interested in keeping friends that offer deep, personal rejection and expect the dynamic not to change.
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>>105241143
I'm not obligated to be polite to anybody. Especially not here. I've been talking to you and giving advice to you for hours because I can tell you're not a complete lost cause.
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>>105241253
I don’t have a problem with fat girls though
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>>105241143
Bumble's not a bad place to start. It'll help learn to socialize with people
>>105241166
Listen to this. Learn how to make friends. Dating is an evolution of how we learn to make friends as children.
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>200 replies
>Open thread expecting BTAS discussion
>Instesd its buzzword tumblr /r9k/ shitflinging
Fuck you all.
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>>105238218
Her name is Alice.
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>>105243122
The first jerkoff that initiated this shitstorm was this roastie >>105238381 and kept fueled by normiefags such as >>105239762 >>105240170 >>105240338.

This is the /co/ you imbeciles want. And certainly the one you deserve. Can't wait till hiro pulls the plug on this wretched and loathsome corner of the site when he realizes a tumblr subsidiary on it is actually a money drain.
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>>105243249
Have you ever tried... not being an incel?
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>>105243568
Never had to. You do?
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>>105243249
Still blaming it all on others, I see.
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>>105244389
It's pathological with them



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