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>Comic books are dyi-
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>>104562426
>What comic critics have to say
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>>104562426
ng.
We're still in one of the worst eras of comics ever.
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>>104562426
They are selling pporly, so, no.
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>>104562440
Is it the end? Or is this just a set up for a massive punchline?
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So i guess that would make Johns, Snyder, and King the Diko, Kirby, and Lee of our time?
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>>104562426
>doomsday cock
>8.9
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>>104562426
>opinions of critics
>"the only empirical evidence for quality"
>written by a comic critic
I hate when people jerk themselves off and try to pretend they are making a valuable statement.
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Well, he's got me there.
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>>104562426
So how many comics did that guy buy?
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>>104562426
this is a ironic piece right?
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>>104562599
You can hardly call it a doomsday cock if it isn't more than a foot long
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>all DC comics

based
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>>104562426
>clickbait article image
>bait thread starting with a tired meme
Why do I still come to this shithole of a board?
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>>104562792
Because your time is literally without value, spent with no one.
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>>104562599
Critics can look at things more objectively than going
>REEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU DO A SEQUEL!!!
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Comic Book round-up is a joke
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Should have posted the whole article. He was being sarcastic.

>Can you imagine another time in comics history where so many top-tier comics were published in a single week? And this week isn’t a fluke. The scores are this high every week. We would never assume that most comic book reviewers are hacks with no actual critical skills who waste their time fawning over mediocre-to-slightly-above-average comics and giving them wildly inappropriate scores in an attempt to ingratiate themselves with their heroes in a sycophantic relationship between the comic book media and comic book publishers and creators, so the only logical conclusion we can possibly come to is that this is the single greatest time period in the history of comic book publishing. You can’t dispute the facts.
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>>104562836
Doomsday Cock has solid art, but the writing is so painfully "Nearest Mexican equivalent to Alan Moore" that it makes my head ache.
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>>104562894
Chip Zsarsky > Stan Lee confirmed
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>>104562894

He isn’t wrong but also who cares about single issue comic reviews and or review creep? This isn’t news. Also Jude Terror is bad in general
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>>104562912
>talking to Johnsfags
What was the quote?
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'"
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>"important" comics
>based on what (((critics))) say
P L E A S E

Golden = 20s - 50s
Silver = 50s - 60s
New Golden = 80s - 90s
Mainstream dumpster fire = modern
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WE LOST AGAIN BROS
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>>104562959
>New Golden = 80s - 90s
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>>104562426
>pop culture gringos thinking they are relevant

lol the sales increase is because you were forced to abandon retarded floppy and LCS traditions. literally nothing produced in the 2010s has been received with any real acclaim
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>>104562994
>literally nothing produced in the 2010s has been received with any real acclaim
this isn't true and you know it
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>>104562992
>imply 80s-90s wasn't peak new comics
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>>104562426
sales are golden, the quality is poo poo
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>>104563002
Ok, where are the 2010's AKIRA, watchmen or Cités Obscures
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>>104563030
The quality has always been low, with a few worthy nuggets. Always.
All that has changed over the decade is the shittiness of the audience.
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>>104562912
>Nearest Mexican equivalent to Alan Moore

I don't even know what that means.
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>>104563039
Just because something doesn't meet your standard of acclaim doesn't mean it isn't acclaimed. Stop being disingenuous and just say you don't like something.
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Comic reviews are trash

Remember Grayson: Futures End? https://comicbookroundup.com/comic-books/reviews/dc-comics/grayson/futures-end-1
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>>104563060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWxcnl8PL_o
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>>104563082
I eat most of the shit put out by Fantagraphics and Image, they fail to impress me.

There's no way to deny there's a talent drought going on.
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>>104563088
6.4 seems like a reasonable overall rating. What's your complaint?
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>>104563159
I never claimed the 10s are better than the 80s. I'm just saying that claiming "there are no acclaimed comics this decade" is stupid.
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>>104562426
We ARE living in the golden age of comic books and that is precisely the problem.
We're in an era now where would be comic book creators are no longer beholden to the big two as publishers, or diamond as distributers or to the box store model. Anyone can get a kickstarter and a chiense printer and put out their book via the internet.
And the thing is, when ANYONE can do it, everyone will do it, no matter how talented, untalented, gay or brown or furry, they can put their book out, so there's no quality control in the indie scene.
And that's a huge problem for fandoms because fandoms are built around sucking the same dicks over and over again no matter how old and tired it gets. Fandoms are about whoring yourself to a corporatized standard.

Turns out nobody here actually wanted the industry to change or evolve, they wanted it to regress to when they were kids.
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>>104563160
A huge amount of them misread the comic
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>>104563159
Asterios Polyp
Saga
Battling Boy
The Walking Dead is losing steam but was a cultural phenom for a reason.
Fuck, All-Star Superman and Y the Last man were less than 10 years ago.

It says something that you went to the 80's and listed a fucking Manga translation.
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>>104563159
What are your metrics for talent though.
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>>104563215
Like, they didn't realize the backwards narration?
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>>104562426
>critics score instead of sales
haha o wow, literally going full uncle tom there OP
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>>104562426
that last sentence makes me physically ill
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>>104562992
>I wasn't born it was shit fuck dadcomics I only read currentyear brave and powerfull comics just like me
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>>104562624
>it's all a shitpost
well that makes me feel a little better
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>>104563232
Saga is trash and so are you
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>>104563267
I was born in 1968, so you really ought to go fuck yourself kiddo.
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>>104563285
imagine ruining such a nice shelf with Invincible
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>>104563209
>Turns out nobody here actually wanted the industry to change or evolve, they wanted it to regress to when they were kids.

Who could have seen that coming?
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>>104563285
Those are some good looking shelves. I'd fuck you.
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>>104563285
>a literal boomer
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>>104563345
Off by a generation, Zoomer.
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>>104563371
excuse me, I'm a 26yo boomer myself
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We really do live in the best time in the history of the world for comics. Even you assholes who continue to care about superheroes have all the films now, and the films are all those basic toddler stories need - they distill them to their most important components and deliver those components with more flash, style, and excitement than the floppies ever managed. There are no more comic stories to be done with the tired corporate superhero characters. The movies are exactly what they needed in order to be relevant again.

And those of us who read grown-up comics? We now have almost unfettered access to manga and Euro books, and US indy artists are no longer strangled by the Big Two or Diamond. Webcomics are doing exciting things with the format and shaking it up like basically never before. You may hate the new diversity in creators and content, but they are making NEW THINGS, webcomics are attracting kids that wouldn't step foot inside a comic shop - you can mock Homestuck to hell and back but jfc that was a worldwide phenomenon centered around one of the most uniquely delivered graphic narratives the world has ever seen.

YA comics are selling like motherfucking gangbusters. Fantasy comics like The Meek, Unsounded, Riceboy, KSBD are high quality endeavors that are actually making their creators a living wage.

You shitheads can and will scoff, but I wouldn't trade this era for any of the others. Comics are exciting again for the first time in a longass time.
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>>104563232
>Asterios Polyp
Not with that retarded ending. Underwater Welder is better.
>Saga
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>The Walking Dead
It was never good.
>Battling boy
decent, but not really groundbreaking. The French publish stuff like this by the dozen.

> and listed a fucking Manga translation.
I specifically named a 10/10 comic from the USA, Japan and France.
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>>104563416
The Walls of Samaris is just as overrated as anything you are dishing on.
Walking Dead has been shit for a good while, but it was excellent and acclaimed for a long time.
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>>104563434
Walking Dead was literally never good from the word go, it's only popular because it miraculously got a TV show that also became popular
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>>104563402
it also came with the most blatant pop culture pandering the industry has ever seen. Rule of cool / "look at what we did!" was always a part of comics all the way to back PROFESSOR X IS A JERK and even before, but now that shit fucking decides whether or not a comic gets any media mention

Yeah it's great if you are hardcore about comics and know exactly how to wiggle your way to the good stuff. But the newfag is hopelessly lost in a sea of tripe.

>>104563434
My problem with the walking dead was that it presented a bunch of impossible situations for the characters to have drama over, which contrasts awfully with the overall down to earth portrayed as realistic as possible athmosphere. It is good, but not ground breaking for the horror genre or for comics.
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>>104563445
>it's only popular because it miraculously got a TV show
Walking Dead was popular with comic readers before the show. Why should I care about non-readers opinion of it? Watchmen remains an obscure work outside of comic readers, despite a major big budget film.
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>>104563484
out of all the comics you could've picked, you picked the one that actually has some mainstream visibility
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>>104563462
>Yeah it's great if you are hardcore about comics and know exactly how to wiggle your way to the good stuff. But the newfag is hopelessly lost in a sea of tripe.

Which is also a result of the "New Golden Age" of the 80's-90's and the shelves being overstuffed with whatever crap they thought people would polybag.
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>>104563499
Walking Dead was an acclaimed comic within comic circles well before it became a cultural fixture.
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>>104562426
Comics are too problematic, anon.
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>>104563532
>You made it real the moment you started drawing it.

No, it isn't you imbecile
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>>104563402
Unironically this.
I can't imagine how painful being a comic fan must have been before manga scanlating blew up. I just wish there was a similar scene for Euro comics.
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>>104562994
Hellboy in Hell was well received by both critics and casuals alike. It has something for everyone.
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>>104563007
It honestly was.
>>104563039
Redpill me on Cites Obscures.
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>>104563285
>those Buddha volumes
Dear Santa...
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>>104563402
>The Meek
Did that start up again?
Last I knew it died from being unreadable schwarbage with a naked girl and a doofus having a protracted argument in a forest.
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>>104563402
What are some exciting comics?
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>>104562426
Sales are lower than ever and generally consensus is that quality is lower than ever, so its obviously a paid shill article.
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>>104562836
>comic critics looking at anything objectively
BKV has a dozen Eisners and Bendis has a half dozen
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>>104563693
What does that tell you about everyone else?
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>>104562426
Jude Terror should stick to shitposting as clearly he doesn't know facts.
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>>104563693
>Eisners

Comic criticism and comic awards are two entirely different things. Award ceremonies are never really about true artistic merit.
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>>104563731
He is shitposting in that article, see >>104562624
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>>104562426
Ignoring the fact that comics sell like shit, one week of non-shit comics doesn’t get rid of the other shit comics. And even then you have still have shit like King’s Batman in the OP. So no, no Golden Age.
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>>104563733
and to get your review on comicbookroundup you need a blog, there's literately no requisite, just fanboys fanboying
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>>104563694
the Eisners are basically awards for bald white men to placate them from whining all the time?
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>>104562449
That's a lie told by youtubers desperate for clicks. Actually check the numbers and comics have been doing well for the last decade.
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This era of sjw garbshit comics is no golden age.
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>>104563837
King's Batman is great
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>>104562426
>ratings so high when 5 out of 6 of the books shown are shit and one is just above average

Yeah but companies don't have critics on their payroll, noooooo
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>>104563402
You should kill yourself.
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>>104564195
lol
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>>104562426
Absolutely! Vertigo is back, too: truly the greatest time to be a fan of this wonderful medium!
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>>104564162
Now, what was the value in making that about race?
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>>104563532
>and besides - even a comic book can shape the real world
he's in a world of illusion with a magic pen (that I assume brings things to life), but still he needs to moralize about how everyday comics can negatively affect impressionable children. isn't there a better time to talk about such a stupidly mundane subject?
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>>104564254
He's right though even if Marvel and DC collapsed fans of comics now have a lot of easy access alternatives how is this not a great age?
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>>104563532
I hope all women and white knights kill themselves.
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>>104564387
>He's right
>movie cancer is le gud
>muh abysmal webcomics r gud
No, he's a complete faggot with shit taste to boot and so are you if you defend him.
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>>104562624
I aint reading all that bait.
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>>104562426
Geoff Johns>Grant Morrison. Confirmed.
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>>104562426
Modern comics are shit. And that's worse than being dead.
Hordes of normies buying them only makes them more irrelevant.
And moviecapeshit is the worst thing happened to movies.
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>>104564743
>And moviecapeshit is the worst thing happened to movies.
Second worst. The worst is "tense and suspenseful" (not really, just very fucking boring) horror movies like Babadook which receive universal critical acclaim and which means there'll be more shit that thinks it's a good movie because it avoids jumpscares.
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>>104562836
>>REEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU DO A SEQUEL!!!
Please Johnsfag, stop pretending anyone has used that as an argument.
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What series are even new? Sjw comics? And are they making the golden era?
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>>104564843
The piece is ironic. It implies comic reviewers are retarded.
>>104564743
>Hordes of normies buying them only makes them more irrelevant.
They don't buy comics, casuals buy comics, normies don't
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>>104564380
Giving it any more consideration beyond the realisation that it's just the writer sermonising is giving it too much of your time.
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>>104562426
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>>104564170
Yeah, this must be why they lowered the cancellation threshold, because comics are selling too good.
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>>104564946
>too good.

*too well.

Mind your peas and queues.
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New and "traditional" comic series sell like shit and that sales numbers contain "comic-ish" books like some spin offs from other popular mediums. They have nothing to do with either capeshit comics or indies
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>>104564370
Bendis looks like a fat Chris Ware, BKV could be Crumb's little brother, King could be Spielgelman's son
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>>104563232
>Y the Last man

2deep4u garbage
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>>104562426
then where are the books that i want?
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>>104564962
Ah, dog nabbed it.
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>>104562426
(((critics)))
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>>104565200
Your not the audience anymore.
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>>104565247
There is no audience.
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>tfw there are scat doujins sold off the back of a pickup truck that get better numbers than modern comics
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>>104562426
>by Jude Terror
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If anything we are on the verge of another major market crash. The parallels to the late 80's-early 90's right before the 90's market crash are nuts.

It's quite possible the only reason it hasn't tanked yet is because of MCU movie synergy and digital comics finally legally happening with comixology and other online storefronts.
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>>104566257
>is because of MCU movie synergy
No, it's because of Manga and indie shit. The MCU effect in marvel sales is smaller than what most people think, there's a reason why X-men sold well, but Captain America, Thor and Iron man are still shit.
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>>104566271
Yeah, I had forgotten about manga.

It should be a major wakeup call to the western market that manga is now outselling and doing far better than all but the best books.
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>>104566302
Reminds me of a story:

I had a comic book shop open up in my local mall. (Which is usually a terrible idea, but they were dead set on it) In Northern Virginia, so not in the middle od nowhere.

The had customers come in asking where the manga was. Only to be told by the sjw dangerhair at the register than anime/manga wasn't popular anymore.

The customer would then walk out and go down the road to the local Barnes & Noble manga section.

That comic shop died and closed shop less than a year later.
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>>104566257
I hope comics just die. All of them. Big 2, independent, webcomics, Jap shit. All of it.
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>>104566257
>>104566271
>>104566376
Boy, I love not reading comic books.
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>>104566368
Sounds like they picked a terrible location and didn't supply what the customers in the area wanted.

Actually sounds exactly like what a bad LCS would do.
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>>104562426
>15 people said something is goog
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>>104566413
>Boy, I love not reading comic books.
Go fuck yourself
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>>104566257
>digital comics finally legally happening with comixology and other online storefronts.

This is a big one.

The Big 2 are quickly approaching the point where digital will start outselling physical books.
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>>104564766
t. That autist who thinks fake things can be scary to adults
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>>104566579
t. faggot shitposter from /tv/
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>>104566413
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>>104566481

But wouldn't that just lead to downsizing?

I mean, if you have 80+ years of material available online, the suits are going to question why they publish so many new books.
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>>104563232

>Saga
>good

This is an unedited page from a more recent issue. Please take your complete shit taste away from here.
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ITT a bunch of oldfags who think all comics are capeshit. No one cares what you and your enlarged prostates think, oldfags. You are irrelevant complainers.
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>>104562624
based and redpilled
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>>104562426
>Doomsday Cock
>almost 9 out of 10
Jesus, I knew comic book critics were retarded but if they give a hack badly imitating Alan Moore that high of a score then there's no saving them.
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>>104567387
Thing is people dont read shit. Thats why they dont know the sad states of comics, they just look at the covers and reviews and figure "this is a master piece!"

I have a friend who's in the industry (does covers and sometimes interiors) and when I showed him modern Marvel stuff like the "unsolicited opinion on Israel" page he tougjt it was an edit. He seriuosly tought all the America horrendous lines and memes were edits cause he never fucking bothered to read anything.
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>>104562426
I just want a spider-man comic/game/movie/show where peter parker get´s to act cool. where he isn´t constantly a loser or manchild. where he isn´t constantly defeated, saved or ridiculed by some new sjw female character. where mj and black are still allowed to be drawn sexy and act sexy. where the villains have actual big plans that take some set up. where their is drama and romance again. where their is only one spider-man and none of that clones, superior, gwen or miles bullshit.
is that really too much to ask?
every single other comic can continue being sjw shit but just give me back my spider-man
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>>104565247
judging by modern sells the new audience isn´t buying
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>>104567934
It's been done. Go read the old stories, no one has taken them away from you. Why do you want the same thing to be repeated over and over and over again? It's boring for the writers, for the artists, and for most readers.
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>>104567934
>where he isn´t constantly a loser

I get your other points, or at least where you're coming from.

But at what point during Peter Parker's life was he ever "cool."?
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>>104567959
Cause when they do new things they're shit.
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>>104567959
Capeshit readers be like... if you finished reading the Harry Potter series and then wrote Rowling angry emails demanding she write it again.
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>>104562426
>those high scores
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>>104567987
Frequently, yeah. These capeshit characters weren't designed to do new things. These tired old series should end, there is nothing else to be wrung out of them but disappointment. They do not belong in the modern world.
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>>104562426
>>104562449
We are living in the Golden Age of Superheroes.
The current age of comics is as yet unnamed.
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>>104567959
>read the old stories, no one has taken them away from you

I hate this stupid "non-argument". Thats not an exvuse for all the crap that gets churned out. Also I hate the fucking post-modern garbage of "making a shity remake of something you like doesnt ruin the original" Well it does dude, it does fucking ruin it. Thats the point of deconstruction, you cant make anything new so havr to ruin other people's stuff and call it your own. When everything sucks you dont suck as bad.
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>>104564170
Why don't you look at the numbers retard. 2017 was stagnant to 2016 and 2018 is down 3% in units.
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>>104567983
well people and other heroes used to respect him during the 2000s.
he was actually written kinda mature and competent even badass at some times right before civil war ended
no more man child or loser that every single women in the history of marvel ridicules 24/7
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>>104567959
because nobody has done it the right way.
their is tons of little gold nuggets spread through the decades of spider-man comics but nobody has ever linked them all together, cut out all the stupid crap and make it work
even spider-man during it´s "golden run" had stupid stuff like spider-man saving gwen from dinosaurs in the savage land two issues before she got killed by the goblin.
I just want somebody to make a 100 plus long run that stats with peter becoming spider-man as a teenage, growing up and become more mature and competent with each issue. have him fall in love with gwen, my and felicia. have him deal with the struggle of lose. have him struggle with the fact that he couldn´t save gwen nor the osborns form the green goblin and have both verison of the green goblin stay dead. have him eventually become an respected scientist. have him eventually take own captain americas mantel and lead the avengers. have him marry mj.
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>>104568129
No writer or artist wants to retread a told story for 100 issues because it's FUCKING BORING. It's been DONE. How many fucking times does Peter gotta get motherfucking bit by the spider? How many times does he have to hook up with MJ or defeat Green Goblin?

Go read that shit, it's there, it's done, it's been told! Stop obsessing over the fact it doesn't live up to your perfect standards. Nothing ever will. Your childhood isn't coming back.
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>>104568000
>HURR DURR I'M AN UNCREATIVE VOID SO THAT MEANS EVERYONE IS
Fuck off already, you piece of shit.
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>>104568189
>No writer or artist wants to retread a told story for 100 issues because it's FUCKING BORING. It's been DONE.
Tom King begs to differ.
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>Jude Terror
Dude's the worst fucking part of an already shit comic site. I'd take my dog telling me comics are doing well over this tryhard unfunny faggot.
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I hope the faggot OP and the shitty mods who allow this shit thread to exist die a horrible death
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>>104568189
>No writer or artist wants
I'm sure you know better than everyone else.
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>>104562624
Yeah. No one reads actually articles. Then again, I don't read anything off that shit website.
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>>104568253
Allow me to amend: No writer or artist of quality wants to do that boring garbage. Because they want to do new things - perhaps even original things, holy fuck!

But if you want more hackfrauds reanimating the fetid corpse of your tired capeshit, I'm sure they're out there. Mickey Mouse's cock is sore, but he'll never turn down another pair of lips.
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>>104568025
This sounds like the argument of a 8 years ild kids who doesn't known what is a desconstruction or post modernism, but is REALLY HARD trying to find a way to blame it for not having the same Spider-Man story being repeated for 60 years.
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>>104568400
>they're not quality because they disagree with my views, wahh
God, you're a dumb, self-absorbed twat. Perfect example of why no one who's not retarded doesn't like indieshitters too. Keep pretending how "new and original" is inherently good and for the love of all that's holy, please get cancer.
I'll trust you on the sucking part, you seem to know a lot about sucking considering how efficient you are at smugly sucking yourself off this entire thread.
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>>104568491
Bro, you are super triggered. Please take some deep breaths and lay down in a dark, quiet, safe space for a while.
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>>104568515
>HURR DURR UR MAD LE SAFE SPACE XD
I mean, I know expecting a pile of trash like you to say something intelligent is asinine, but this is pathetic even by low standards of your terrible posts.
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>>104568515
>>104568515
Look at the baby thinking this is an out of bounds post on 4chan. Fuck off electionigger
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>>104568491
>>104568536
He got you.

Stop whinning about ig 2 shit being big 2 shit. It ALWAYS was big 2 shit.
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>>104568536
You're just making me laugh, man :D Where's your emotional support hamster? Or did you roll over and crush it beneath all six-hundred pounds of your Doritos-fueled neckbeard rage?
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>>104562426
>Comicbook reviews
I'd believe vidya reviews before I'd trust a comic book reviewer.
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>>104568560
>>104568562
Indiefags once again showing how much more mature than capefags they are, everybody.
Since you fags are dumb as hell, this was sarcasm.
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>>104563285
>Literal 50-year old.
>Still on 4chan.
Did you ever take stock of how sad your life is, anon?
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>>104563232
>Asterios Polyp
Came out forever ago
>Saga
Hasn't been good for years, Vaughn turned it into a money machine rather than a story
>TWD
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Losing steam? You've never fucking read it have you? It hasn't been good for at least 100 issues.
>Battling Boy
Never read it can't comment
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>>104568614
*at least 180
FTFY.
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I think it's funny how the only way an LCS stays open these days is for it to act like everything but a LCS. They have to be stuffed full of toys and gaming shit, with a heavy emphasis on local events and card tournaments and even video games and charities to even scrape by. A new comic shop opened last month in our local shopping mall, it says "Gary's Comics" out front, but the literal only comics inside are some used manga up on a shelf. The rest of the place is old toys, Funko, old magazines, LPs, and some clothing and statues.

I guess that's what "comics" is to normies now. Just vague pop culture?
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>>104562426
I wish things could go back to how they used to be just a few years ago. Things like sexy women used to be completely normal still in 2012 but are now literally outlawed. only men still get sexually exploited daily while women are all drawn ugly and completely covered up.
sjws changed comics so much I can´t even recognize them anymore.
I miss cheesecake.
I miss having likable female characters instead of men hating marie sues that all look and act like men.
I miss having white male heroes that are actually allowed to act cool and heroic

why did liberals and feminist have to ruin comics?
why couldn´t they leave them alone?
why does the idea of having a few female characters with big breasts and revealing outfits trigger them so much that they ruin an entire industry?
I really can´t say the last time comics actually featured nice sexy art and a none feminist story
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>>104568753
Maybe it's finally time you get a life, brother.
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>>104568189
The bad ones do.
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>>104563232
>Fuck, All-Star Superman and Y the Last man were less than 10 years ago.
No, they finished their runs more than 10 years ago...
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>>104567934
No you don't.
You just think you do.
Peter being a loser is a fundamental pillar of his character.
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>>104568782
what are you doing posting on 4chan?
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>>104568794
peter parker can still fail because his super hero responsibilities keep messing up his private life but that doesn´t mean that spider-man can´t be be cool, save the day and not be constantly a loser that get´s constantly ridiculed and easily defeated by female or minority characters
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>>104563232
You are a fucking nigger for putting Asterios Polyp among all those. Fuck off.l
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>>104567959
>>104568189
Making Peter a loser manchild is exactly what you're telling this guy he's doing. It's retreading old character beats.
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>>104568753
Fuck off casual, go buy Xenoscope or Avatar then you dumb faggot. I don't believe you've ever entered a comic shop if you believe there are no comics with cheesecake.
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>>104569625
Maybe it's time to retire the character then.
Oh wait we can't do that either because muh.
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>>104568842
He's never been cool. You're just a bitch.
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>>104569659
Nice pivot faggot, you don't know anything about the character and yet talk like you know best. Just fuck off back to /tv/ or /lit/ or wherever, run along.
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>>104563232
>>Fuck, All-Star Superman and Y the Last man were less than 10 years ago.
Anon, we're at 10 years 1 month for Supes and nearly 11 for Y.
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>>104568594
Most posters here are either oldfags like him or Sjws/Tumblrinas or else a drama watcher/troll l like me

If you're unironically a young capefag you are just either a literal autist or an utter casual kid.
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You guys were talking about manga and I had to wonder if a genre that has been popular in the west for more than 30 years was going to do anything now, but then I remembered that (at least outside the US) smaller publishing companies are popping out especially focused in what sells the most and is almost always guaranteed to sell 100% of all units, which is yaoi. I don't think if you guys have noticed how powerful yaoi is, but let me tell you that I know at least of two publishing companies that have been going on for almost a decade now and started purely as a gathering point for fujoshis who wanted legal copies of their smut. On the other hand, it's extremely hilarious for me that manga is endangering capecomics in the US considering american publishing companies were extremely aggressive when it came to stuff like mirroring art, coloring it, and brutally censoring content just so they could keep the status quo for comics. Euro is always going to be the "socially acceptable" comic form desu. I don't think people see Blacksad as a comic in the same way as capeshit, and Blacksad is just an average eurocomic when it comes to art or writing.
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>>104569689
Stock npc response.
Peter being a loser is overdone, Peter being a winner is overdone. So what's left for Peter?
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>>104562959
Golden Age: 20s-early 50s
Dark Age: late 50s-70s
Renaissance Age: 80s-90s
Second Dark Age: 00s
Mild improvement age: 10s
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While I get what Jude Terror is on about, you can't have a respected and agreed upon council of critics ranking a specific media's best and worst (and the userbase's culture) on a platform that is built to overthrow mono culture. That was the whole reason aggregate websites were even built, to give review scores equal weight. A better system would be to weigh the opinions of different reviewers/critics differently for whatever reason.

As for sycophants using review sites to get in with industry people to start their own careers, hello, Comics Alliance.
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>>104570250
Him just getting by with good enough.
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>>104570294
>Mild improvement age: 10s
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>>104562426
>golden age

More like Dark Ages. I say that unironically. The levels of excommunication and cries of heresy the SJW/NPC crowd have enacted have made this the worst time for creativity in comics. They are doing what the comics code authority failed to do in their overreach.
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>>104570427
Even if that weren't loser talk, it's fucking boring.
Yeah let's all pay for the just okay happenings of just getting by man. That sounds mildly acceptable.



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