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I thought you guys said Duane loved all kids
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>>104562043
>Duane "What's with all the niggers?" Adelier
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>>104562043
>Ruffles will never playfully bite you
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>>104562043
I mean he's not exactly in love with being called a plod

And she's talking about giving him a towel to chew on like he's a fuckin animal while rambling about her fanfics

Next time he falls into the Khert they're going to subdue his body with the babby bath towel, calling it
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He doesn't feel like getting to know every nigglet in the slaughterhouse.
Southern BBQ is delicious but man, the heart burn.
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>>104562049
This is maybe my favorite thing ever. Now I wish Cope would draw her dressed like a hood jit and flashing Crip signs.
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>>104562195
>Hey Zombie! Oops I mean Duane
>What's it like being a dumb piece of shit? Oops I mean a zombie
>I know a guy who owns zombies like you and he says you like chewing on warm towels
>I'm writing a story about zombies, which you are, what do you think
>By the way I am a culmination of everything you hate about my religion as I am ignorant of the gods demise, think Ssaletism is wrong and am to be ritually sacrificed
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>>104562195
>And she's talking about giving him a towel to chew on like he's a fuckin animal
Who wouldn't like a hot towel to chew on when we're feeling feisty? Am I right? I mean, I prefer carpet but to each their own
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>>104562195
>person whose only experience with zombies is plods treats duane like a plot
surprising. Her only experience with duane the guy is being slapped and possibly good word from Sette/ruffles. There is no reason to put on airs and if anything she more polite than early sette. Sette just happens to be the only person on the planet to use zombie instead of nigge- I mean plod.
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>>104562195
>And she's talking about giving him a towel to chew on like he's a fuckin animal
Doesn't help that he actually does that sometimes.
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>>104562556
Yeah, Duane is being surprisingly patient for not immediately breaking out into a "YOUR GODS ARE DEAD" rant.
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>>104562882
Honestly I could see Siya eventually getting disillusioned with her religion after the eventual bullshit that's bound to happen in this chapter.
Calling it now, she's still going to be sacrificed, but just as she drinks the ritual poison, she's going to yell THE GODS ARE DEAD!
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>>104563253
Nah, gotta go for that maximum bullshit. The sister who is supposed to be the priestess dies and the sister who is supposed to be sacrificed flees and abandons the shrine.
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>Ruffles tells her to tell Duane he hurt her in his unthinking nighttime state
>If she just got to the point Duane would probably feel terrible, apologize, and be his normal Dad self around her because she's a kid
>instead she rambles on and on about her terrible fucking fanfics that literally no one cares about
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Honestly, the twin thing is so barbaric it completely tips me in favor of Ssaelism, despite all the problems that religion has. Ssael stuff can seem really mean, nasty, and cruel, but the Gefendur practice fucking human sacrifice, and they even used to eat the child when it was dead. It's horrific in a way Ssaelism simply isn't. It's like how Christianity was instantly better than the pagan religions because it didn't condone awful shit like human sacrifice and infant exposure.
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>>104563369
>It's horrific in a way Ssaelism simply isn't.
I dunno, that proposition to infect non-Ssaelites of a plague so they won't lose senate seats is pretty horrific. Especially given Zombiedad was the only one to object to it on grounds of it being fucking monstrous.
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>>104563412

But that had nothing to do with the teachings of the religion itself, it was all politics.
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>>104563369
>they even used to eat the child when it was dead
They still do this, those who are worthy of the honor get a small piece. The Queen, nobles, the mayor of a city, especially noteworthy members of the community, they all get the privilege. It's supposed to be incredibly good fortune.

>>104563412
As >>104563428 that's an outgrowth of the politics of the particular country not the teachings of Ssaelism. Bodie quoted scripture in support of it but anyone can twist scripture to their ends. He spoke of justice but I have no doubt many Ssaelits would argue it isn't just to kill thousands of innocents.
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>>104563412
That wasn't a firmly embedded Ssaelit practice you giving retard. Just alds being alds
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Both the religions are garbage, it is right and good only to worship the one goddess Tiddybird.
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>>104563562
>goddess Tiddybird
>worshiping a senet beast
What are you, a two-toe?
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>>104563369
They cannibalism is still there, but they switched from slitting the girl's throat in full view of the other twin to feeding the sacrifice a 'go-to-sleep-forever' potion. Another bonus to Ssaelism is that they see Senet Beasts, two-toes and animals as fellow victems of the god's cruel world, rather than toys/tools to do whatever you want with.
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>>104563562
>not killing all the gods and consuming their essence
It's like you don't want to liberate man
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>>104562043
Not cool Ruffles. I was that bath boat lizard once.
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>>104563562
> cutting off balls
thanks, pass
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>>104564734
Duane "Pimp Hand" Adelier
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Zoom and enhance!
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>>104564798
Duane "beat em' and eat em" Adelier
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>>104563347
>Duane is short tempered by the time he meets up with everyone else

>has exhausted all his chill not slapping this kid that's been following him for ages

>next time something fucky gets thrown in his face by some crescian shitbird he's gonna throw down

>all goes to hell in a handbasket

>because this kid couldn't keep their greentexts to herself
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Ruffles is so vicious! Look at that predatory gaze in the first panel! That lunge in the sixth!
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>>104563311
Duane could use another Crescan child, Jivi is proving to be unworthy.
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>>104565583
>Duane turns around to the uncooked meal
>alright you little shit, story time
>and thus begins the backstory of sodomy, child soldiers being marched to their death and overall crescian villainy
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>>104563369
Isn't the main tenet of Christianity a human sacrifice?
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>>104567989
yeah but the guy they killed was immortal so that doesn't count
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>>104567989
Technically the Crucifixion is God sacrificing himself to himself, rather than demanding a sacrifice from humans, so it doesn't really count.

Also, Judaism is fairly notable among ancient world religions for its lack of human sacrifice. We've even discovered that the Greek pagans used to do human sacrifice to Zeus.
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>>104567989
he got better
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>>104568027
Jews sacrificed bits of their dicks. And lots and lots of animals.

I mean... I guess it's better... but it's still a primitive obsession with blood magic.

#justhumanthings
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>>104568210
What a terrible fucking post, please kill yourself.
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>>104568235
What exactly about that post is incorrect?
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>>104568027
That's complete bullshit though.

The old testament has tons of allusion to earlier practises of firstborn sacrifice. Archaeologists and historians all pretty much agree that early judaism had human sacrifice as well.
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>>104568210
Jews don't have ritual human sacrifice enshrined in their dogma (though it's arguable as >>104568285
points out) but it does have plenty of surviving textual instances of their god telling them to go slaughter certain tribes or execute certain people for certain crimes. What were the slain first born of Egypt but a human sacrifice in exchange for the Jews' freedom? Moses wasn't like wait, god, dude, pls don't.

It's a fuzzy line; mostly just semantics and a way of framing the issue.
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>>104568327
Also tell me what other world religion common today has human sacrifice.

Only thing I could think of is maybe some Hindu cults if you count that as world religion.

And the Romans explicitely forbade human sacrifice in all their territory long before Christianity or Judaism played an important role in their empire.
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>>104568410
Yep. It's hard for religions to keep up practises if they're explicitly illegal or against society's norms. It's why Mormonism had to toe the line and give up polygamy.

I find the Gefendur religion pretty fascinating because you can see how the twin sacrifice is butting up against evolving social standards. The fact that the twins are kept away from the public so they're otherized, the fact they're humanely poisoned now instead of having their throat slit, the fact they're cut up in private and the distribution of their flesh is so sanitized. I think I remember Ashley had a euphemism for what it's even called.

I would bet you in a hundred years the Gefendur don't even do it anymore, or they sacrifice a fucking goat instead of the actual person.
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>>104568263
Don't use fucking hashtags on 4chan, for starters. It's unseemly.
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>>104568410
>Romans explicitely forbade human sacrifice
>Not knowing about Roman triumphs
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>>104568285
Insofar as Judaism, as we know it, begins with Abraham, it really doesn't. I don't think it's correct and precise to call the Semitic religions that preceded Judaism the same thing as Judaism itself; Judaism proper begins with God's covenant with Abraham.
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>>104568285
>The old testament has tons of allusion to earlier practices of firstborn sacrifice.
Yeah and if you actually read the thing it gets a lot more reformed near then end before the NT
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>>104568527
Dude, Abraham sacrificed his firstborn son.

Later that passage was edited.

Also Abraham never existed as a real person.

Why are Judaism earlier human sacrifice practises not part of Judaism but Hellenic paganism early human sacrifice practices can be used to discourage the Greek religion of the third and fourth centuries? Double standard much?
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>>104568650
>Dude, Abraham sacrificed his firstborn son.

No he didn't.

>Later that passage was edited.

Says who?
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>>104568650
>Dude, Abraham sacrificed his firstborn son.
>Later that passage was edited
Got sauce on that?
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>>104568666
Says the majority of critical biblical scholars.
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How can y'all take religious texts seriously or as authorities on anything? Men have had their fingers in them from the onset, tweaking them in minor and major ways ever since forever. They've had far more information stripped out of them than they even still contain.

People who say Harry Potter will be taken as religion in 2000 years aren't even doing it right. These religious texts weren't written by a single person. They're compendiums, endlessly edited and added to.

You're standing ignorant at the tail end of thousands of years of curation, and can't even see the hands of the curators.

And people want to base their lives on this stuff? Base their whole governments on it?

I gladly tip my fedora.
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>>104568707
Basically read up on the Documentary hypothesis.

Especially on the priestly source.
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>>104568774
Had to look it up again for a bit.

Bascially most of the Sacrifice of Isaak story is claimed to be from the Elohist source. The Elohist snippets never mention Isaak again after that event, implying a proper human sacrifice.
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>>104562043
I have no idea what this is, but does that black kid always carry that book? He looks exactly like boingo from Jojo
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>>104568953
It's a girl.
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>>104568993
You’re a girl
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>>104568953
It's Unsounded, great webcomic. And probably. She's a wannabe artist so she has her sketchbook a lot. New character though so it remains to be seen.
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>>104569068
>She's a wannabe artist
Well, the only kind of art she's gonna make is food art
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>>104569251
I guess if they serve her between bread she'll be a sandwich artist.
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New Kickstarter when?
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>>104569453
I hope soon. I want a copy of v2.
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>>104569592
I'd really want to get it published in France...Devil Candy made it.
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>>104569453
June 2020
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>>104569621
The French are too busy rioting to read comic these days.
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>>104569645
Seems arbitrary.
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>>104569672
They usually have a kickstarter every year and a half, it's pretty regular
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>>104569646
>implying we can't riot, drink wine and read bandes dessinées at the same time
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>>104569698
We didn't have one this year did we?
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>>104569698
Wait nevermind, wrong thread. I thought I was in the BCB thread. My bad.
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>>104569869
BCB? I'm sure I could look around and figure that out but might as well ask you to spoonfeed me.
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>>104569840
Last one was April 2017
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>>104568499
The slow changes to the Gefendur religion are actually really neat, I have to say. Bell's weird "tasting the blood of the slain so as to consume their essence and bring their strength to that of his cause" is a good example of this because it's a factual part of the Gefendur religion that just... went away. I have to imagine that as Gefendurism became (outside of Alderode) more centralized under the Ulestrian Theo-Matriarchy and the Crescian Monarchy that such old customs were slowly eroded, and the rest of the world took note. I can't see a well-oiled machine like Cresce, sporting a centrally-planned economy and the abolishment of greed, tolerating a practice as messy as regular human sacrifice.

The fact that Ssaelism or the Paternal-Gefendur heresy even happened is a testament to that. After humans beat back the Senet beasts, the whole "reason" for Gefendurism to even be a thing just kind of faded away. If Gefendurism still needed to be exactly what it was in ancient times, Ssael would have died a quack and no one would have even thought to try and demote Yerta, even a bunch of weirdos up north.

What I find interesting about Gefendurism is the (bizarre) comparison to Raw Head which is a very different kind of gay than Cope seems to be into. Gefendur exults the female, doesn't really have any big taboos on sex or sexuality, and came about as almost an excuse for humans to go around and murder the Senet Beasts. Before Pymary became popular (and well understood), the one real advantage humans had over Senet Beasts would have been that human can reproduce and the Senet beasts can't. The prospect of your Slave-Worshipers growing in numbers to the point where they can just mob you to death is one that only an unaging immortal that can't breed has to worry about.
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>>104569876
No, you don't want to. Please never look at it, and move on with your life. I'm saying it for your own good.
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>>104567989
Self-sacrifice.
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>>104569966
Also don't some of the islands in Alderode have "pagans" with a religion not related to Gefendur or Ssael
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>>104570754
Yeah, I think they still worship the senet beasts. Or maybe one specific senet beast we don't know yet. Maybe Tiddybird!
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>>104570754
Speaking of Anchert, does the Dammakhert cover it? Seems like that would be a pretty solid determiner of whether Alderode has control of it or not.
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>>104571551
It does not.
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>>104570754
Cope has said that the Mmatont practice their pre-Gefendur Tainish religion, and I could swear that at times she's talked about it in terms that make it special in comparison to, say, the pre-Gefendur Crescian religion. What's special about it could be that it just survived well enough for the Mmatont to even take back up, which leads me to believe that there's more to it than just tit-for-tat with the Senet beasts.
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>>104571736
I don't think we know enough to speculate properly about the Mmatonts, and Cope hasn't answered any of my questions about them. I guess they're for later on.
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>>104571783
She's said we'll see them some time in book two. The end of this chapter (or next?) is the end of book one. She's got posts on her questions tumblr and has posted here about them, which is where my comment about
>and I could swear that at times she's talked about it in terms that make it special
comes from.

But yeah, other than that they're a bunch of crazy racial/caste supremacists who practice weird heathen religions on a frozen hellhole (by Aldish standards) of an island, we know dick and we probably won't know more until the Alderode chapters.
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Thinking about the world what are the odds of an undiscovered continent on their world.
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>Yep! She and her sister Sara and the other shrine kids will be around for a little while. Frieeeeeends.

Duane is going to steal the children, isn't he?
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>>104571964
Only the children that convert why would he want the heathen kids
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>>104571964
>the children
Does that include Ruffles?
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>>104571981
He seems fine with Sette
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>>104571992
If anything he's more likely to help the two-toes, I think.

>>104572010
Sette is a special case, because she reminds him of his daughter. He might be less inclined to tolerate heathenry from other kids, though the worst he's given Jivi is a lecture.
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>>104571832
Nah, we got a lot of book one still ahead of us.
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>>104571936
The Khert emanates from the continent, once you go out far enough the Khert stops and people start getting fucked up. Baseline people the Khert affects couldn't even see things outside the Khert.
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>>104571832
This chapter's over in four pages. The next chapter is a self-contained story about Duane and his brother in the Aldish army. Chapter after that is Litriya Shrine part 2. Then I think the two chapters after that are the climax and ending of Book 1 and it takes place in that port town the silver and queen are heading to and Ashley said much of the cast will be culled.

So I guess it'll be like the end of the Golden Age arc in Berserk.
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>>104572308
Pretty sure that's not accurate. The khert does stop, and things can get fucky, but people still work just fine, there's even sailors who sail out of the khert's reaches now and then! But they believe that if they die out at sea they don't reincarnate, the khert can't reach their soul and they're gone forever.
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>>104572376
It is accurate to a degree, but people can adapt to it. If you'll recall the Queen's Palace is too far from the continent for Khert lines to reach it was built that way to prevent attacks through pymary. Roger feels faint from being up there while the Queen who has spent considerable time up there does not. Once you go outside the Khert the base level physics of the world steps in to take care of things, but until your body is used to that you're gonna be really fucked up. Here are some interesting answers that Ms. Cope has given over the years about this subject.

http://unsoundedcomic.tumblr.com/post/117525569555/i-just-remembered-that-duane-fled-his-home-by#notes

http://unsoundedcomic.tumblr.com/post/92087963150/so-i-know-you-probably-cant-go-too-in-depth#notes
>I really do prefer to leave such matters shrouded in the Silent Hillish fog of your imagination~

http://unsoundedcomic.tumblr.com/post/162942180690/because-first-materials-have-self-contained#notes
>They just never return, and foreign ships never sail in.

Her answer to the second one feels a lot like previous answers where someone landed upon the beginnings of something very important and she doesn't want to confirm or deny anything. Combined with the notable lack of ships coming back at all, and foreign ships arriving in is very interesting. Though on the matter of ships not coming in from different continents there is an Ask I couldn't find that basically said materials foreign to the Khert would pass right through Kasslyne since it would not have any of its Aspects labeled and so therefore couldn't interact with them until the Khert finally recognized it and started assigning it Aspects. So that would explain why not foreign ships come through, but why don't any ships return? What's going on out there?
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>>104572585
None of that says anything about going blind or your body ceasing to function except the one referring to Duane, who was dead and blinded- relying on pymaric eyes and other bits of pymary (black tongue and otherwise) to keep him functioning.
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>>104562195
she needs one of those "Please be patient. I have autism." hats
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>>104572793
Keeping it real, she is acting like a typical teenager.

And this is why teenagers should be locked in a cage until they hit 25 or so.
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>>104572585
>Though on the matter of ships not coming in from different continents there is an Ask I couldn't find that basically said materials foreign to the Khert would pass right through Kasslyne since it would not have any of its Aspects labeled and so therefore couldn't interact with them until the Khert finally recognized it and started assigning it Aspects.
That was answered from a question on people from our world going to Kasslyne. It might not apply the same way to people within their own world, especially since stuff Ashley's said implies the khert is more ground based than anything, if you come to shore elsewhere maybe the khert is still there, even.
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>>104572663
I'm trying to track down the Ask that delved into it. But the idea is that something without Aspects, which would be anything from outside the Khert doesn't have anything to interact with the normal system that inhabitants of Kasslyne use, which is the Khert. They see things because the Aspects of Colour, Reflection, etc. etc. etc. all tell a person what they're seeing through the Khert. It's why shit like stealing the opacity of something actually works. The Khert supersedes the natural physics of the world, which are very similar to our own. However when the Khert is no longer present, on the ocean or high above the continent the only remaining system is the real world one. ?

http://unsoundedcomic.tumblr.com/post/96686804695/if-there-are-no-khert-lines-away-from-the-land#notes

http://unsoundedcomic.tumblr.com/post/96763768790/where-the-khert-stops-the-other-system-comes#notes
Here's the Ask that really explores it. Not everyone might necessarily go blind but switching systems really fucks you up.
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>>104572945
That's so cool. The way this is set up, Kasslyne could conceivably exist in any world, even ours. It could be some giant island in the Bermuda Triangle.

Guys, let's go find it.
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>>104573029
Or it's dark matter.



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