What would happen if the Daleks were in DC/Marvel?
>>104557584Street level/Tech based heroes would be utterly fucked. Big hitters like Hulk or Supes might be able to take them on, however that's dependent on if thier durability extends to the Dalek's instant kill-o-beam that's standard on every single one
>>104557584It would be whacky, and then the heroes would blow them up or push them over. Maybe Batman or Reed Richards would trick them. They'd probably team up with Dr. Doom or something, and then they'd betray eachother.Pretty standard crossover shit.
>>104557623Considering later mutt humans with technological advancements could deal with cyberman who had taken whole fucking galaxies; I'm guessing meta-humans with magic could kill Daleks. Even automatic weapons that hit where the eye-stalk forcefield generator is fucks them over.
>>104557623Dalek beams apparently fuck with your molecules in some manner (IIRC they "cross them" through some fuckery or another), effectively liquefiying your insides. Supes and the Hulk would have to be really fucking careful.
>>104557634>Daleks>teaming up with non-Daleks
>>104557584Just kick them over? They look like futuristic trashcans
>>104557584They'd get stuck as a Doom Patrol villain and left to become irrelevant to anything in the main parts of the universe.
>>104557584I think they wouldn't fare well, what makes them scary is the fact that the Doctor faces them unarmedAt the end of the day they are just enhanced soldiers, pretty standard stuff for a superheroAnd yes, their tanks are made of a really dangerous and hard alloy but i mean it is nothing that can't be avoided if you are smart enough.Daleks would be fucked in either universe.
>>104557584Daleks vs The Green Lantern Corp alone would be worth a book.>>104557623I'd hate to be "That Guy" who delves into power level nonsense, but Dalek's have been shown to be broken as fuck. Their beams basically disintegrate anything, and were able to fight a super race of nigh immortal godlike time travelers. So with that said, Dalek invasion would be a Crisis level event for DC
>>104557741If I recall, they have forcefields that cover their entire frame beyond the eyestalks. And those lasers of theirs can fire really fucking quickly. And have varying levels of lethality as well.They can also fly, and only really go for the ground as an intimidation tactic.
>>104557623>Street level/Tech based heroes would be utterly fucked.Anon, Luke Cage and Iron Fist already defeated them. This is cannon.
>>104557786Reminder that just a few Daleks can literally build planet-busting weaponry with a few sticks and some chewed up gum equivalents. Or worse shit. They also aren't the kind of villains to just sit on their WMDs and wait for the heroes to come down. They'll detonate their planet-busters and other shit without any prompting whatsoever.The Cult Of Skaro (a bare few Time War era Dakeks) were also perfectly willing to blow up the Sun to open the Genesis Ark, if the above wasn't enough.
Here's an interesting question; how would Davros, creator of The Daleks, fair in DC/Marvel? He's a genius, and I wonder if he could understand New God technology.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VBE4Lv08l0
>>104557876If they can go undiscovered with tons of preptime, I'm sure they could do some damage. But they'd either just exist in the universes (meaning people will be on the look out for them) or their invading the dimension. Which means the characters that look out for shit like that would take notice.They're powerful, but enough people who can just pop them like balloons will cause them trouble.
>>104557914Davros would look at New God tech and would try to use it in the designs of new Daleks. From there, he will then have his New Daleks aid him in recreating the Reality Bomb using the pillaged tech.He may or may not end up getting betrayed and locked in the cupboard by his creations somewhere along the way.
>>104557954The Daleks, assuming that this is but a few of them and not the whole Empire (which would end up with a multiverse-sundering war for DC and a curbstomp for Marvel), have actual time travel on their side. They have near unlimited time to begin building themselves up in secret until they're ready to kill everything.They also build shit nightmarishly quickly. They'll have a fuckton of nasty shit piled up by the time anyone realizes what they're actually doing.
>>104557954> They're powerful, but enough people who can just pop them like balloons will cause them trouble.Only in small numbers. The more of them there are, the more likely they are to come up with a superscience counter to deal with threats before you get through them. Like, say they literally can't kill the Hulk. Thats fine. They will just trap him between two moments in time with a stasis bomb, taking him off the board entirely. He can be invulnerable over there in the corner, never moving again until the end of time. Superman has weaknesses to specific forms of radiation (aka, kryptonite) so its literally only a matter of time before the Daleks come up with a gun that instantly strips him of his powers and vaporize him. And so on. Even the Flash isn't an instant win against them, his form of time travel is inferior to that of the Time Lords that the Dalek fought (and arguably beat) in the Time War.
>>104558169But could they survive an infinite mass punch?
>>104557584Batman would happen.
>>104558198Once they have had time to analyze the Flash and those like him and accurately deduce the scope of his abilities? They'll probably develop some crazy bullshit to either remove him from the Speedforce, or outright trap him in it forever, negating the infinite mass punch entirely.Hell, they could probably just pull a Thawne and nip Barry in the bud long before he ever becomes a problem, retroactively erasing him from existence.
>>104557669Superman is fast enough to not be hit
>>104558198Not him but how many of those does old Barry have in him? Those trash can looking bastards come in the billions. Also you think the Speed Force is broken science bullshit? Try watching Doctor Who time travel nonsense.
>>104558198The first time? No. He destroys them. But then one of them rewinds time to before the start of the battle and transmits the battle data to the rest of the Daleks.The Flash blitzes in at speedforce speed in a 'surprise attack' and instantly runs into 200 instant-death lasers that have been fired preemptively in his path. If that fails one of them goes back in time again and has collected enough data to create a speedforce dampener...And so on. This was standard practice during the Time War: every single battle of the war existed in a simultaneous state of being a loss, victory, and ongoing stalemate in at least 4 different ongoing infinite loops, with vast paradox engines sorting through and deleting timelines as fast as they could be generated to try and gain a chronological advantage. Flash has insufficient time travel for this fight.
>>104558243Anon that's not even true for regular DC. Plenty of villains have hit Clark
>>104558261Who said anything about Clark?
>>104558260Wait where was that info stated about all those timelines going on during the war? Been fucking ages since I watched Dr Who but that sounds insane compared to the stuff I remember
>>104557584Er... they were. Marvel UK published Doctor Who Magazine until Marvel UK was shut down, and created original strips for that purpose featuring the Doctor and all his enemies.One Marvel character, Death's Head, was originally going to be part of the Marvel UK Transformers comic, but the creators liked him so much that they put him in a non-Transformers comic first in order to keep the rights (the licensing agreement between Marvel and Hasbro meant that original characters published in Transformers comics belonged to Hasbro, not Marvel). After they were done with him in Transformers, they had to find a way to make him human-sized, and because he was a time traveler himself they had him collide with the TARDIS in the timestream, then the Doctor shrank him down, transported him to a random future Earth, and left him there.He wasn't trying to shrink Death's Head, he was trying to kill or incapacitate him, but there you go.
A long Dalek would be a nice threat. The entire Dalek race? A complete and utter genocide of all creation. People need to read up on The Last Great Time War. There was some SHIT happening in that motherfucker.
>>104558291The show doesn't give us much of the war, but all of the various novels, comics and audio dramas illustrate that the Time War was a war that tore apart the very Multiverse itself with the crazy fuckery both sides kept on throwing at each other through an infinite assortment of temporal looping, universe-leaping insanity, and other such madness.
>>104558198You can't have an infinite mass punch because it would have infinite mass, which would firstly mean you couldn't punch anything with it (because that would require there to be more mass) and secondly even if you could it would have infinite force, meaning it would contain all the energy of the universe (see first point). Simply punching in that state would impart half of your energy to the thing you were punching (and you need that to happen, or the punch has no effect).It's just dumb.
>>104557584Depends which variant. T Davies Daleks would be an arc ender, on the scale of the Annihilation Wave. Everything you thought they were weak at was merely something to give you false hope, before they exterminate you.Moffat's Daleks are all hopeless, bar the one Big Boss Dalek who turned against them all, and spends his days sniping Skaro citizens for fun. Every sliver of hope they get is crushed in another wave of Matt Smith's smug prick face.Chibnall's not bringing back the Daleks, which is mildly surprising, because he's shown he's not above doing literally anything Davies did but less subtlely. How the actors in Doctor Who don't murder the writing staff I haven't the foggiest.Old who? They'd be a threat, but it's really hard to tell, because there wasn't exactly a consistent power level, even for Doctor Who. Honestly, the old Time Lord skeletons in the closet would be a bigger threat, mainly because they're willing to wipe out physical existance in favour of psychic energy.
>>104558350Don't tell them to read the novels. Tell them to read Lungbarrow and the novelizations of the show (new and old) and stay the fuck away from anything that's just someone's bullshit vampire novel series with some doctor who characters in it for no real reason.
>>104558309>transported him to a random future EarthThe comic Dragon's Claw, apparently.
>>104558311>A long Dalek would be a nice threat.A lone Dalek would likely find a way to blow up the entire damn planet in a day or two.
>>104558231I agree. If the Doctor can beat them by running down hallways and spouting jargon, I'm sure Batman could beat them.
>>104558358Speedforce, don't have to explain shit
>>104558375This isn't even getting into the Time War, when parallel universes had to be closed off to stop them from dying too if thing's went pear shaped. Or worse, stop people retrieving horrific crap from them.Meanwhiles, Neverweres, The Could Have Been King, the Nightmare Child, the Skaro Degradations, the Horde of Travesties, and lastly 99 percent of all Time Lords going insane with bloodlust, and drawing up plans to rewrite existance into nothing. The entire war had to be placed into a quarantine called a time lock, to stop anything from leaving or entering.
>>104558399It's a good comic. Nice designs.
>>104558441Its from Simon Furman. Good enough for me.
>>104558198Daleks are nearly out of the scope for most Marvel/DC villains. The Time War lead to multiple competing rewrites of the beginning of time to spawn universes that were advantageous to one combatant or another. I don't even think Endless in DC would be able to keep up with Daleks honestly. Things would probably escalate until the God of their respective series stepped in to forcibly shunt them off to another universe or eradicate the ones not locked up in paradox machines. I think the only fictional entities that can deal with a Dalek invasion by feats would be Downstreamers and other multiversal + combatants.
>>104558465The Endless *could* deal with them, but they're so shackled by their roles that they might as well be completely useless.
>>104557584Dalek strength ranges from near indestructible to comically weak.
>>104558487It might be possible on a universe-by-universe basis, but it seems like a full multiversal assault would be won out by the Daleks. Marvel's cosmology is SoL
>>104558501Canonically this is because they're progressing and regressing throughout the eras. Usually at the same time.
>>104558541DC might be able to survive since its dealt with multiversal threats before (few quite on the scale of the Daleks to be fair), but Marvel is fucked beyond a shadow of a doubt.
>>104558375>Chibnall's not bringing back the DaleksMaybe not as a major threat, but the rule to my knowledge has always been one Dalek appearance every season or the rights go back to the Terry Nation estate.
>>104557669>apparentlyOne throwaway reference in 'Remembrance' doesn't count as technobabble.Just what the Dalek weapon does has never been clearly defined and the Doctor has survived it on occasion.
>>104558465Endless would just keep doing their thing until the Daleks turn on each other. Soon after that Death turns off the lights and leaves the Universe.
>>104558918>Just what the Dalek weapon does has never been clearly defined and the Doctor has survived it on occasion.That's because the Doctor is bullshit.
>>104558918The time I saw the Doctor survive it was because the Daleks set their beams for killing humans but not too quick, so the Doctor survived. I think that was the episode where a squad of Daleks hit a small building with MAXIMUM EXTERMINATION and it doesn’t go poof.
>>104558970At best she'd just seal off a universe once it's fully Dalek occupied since their time shenanigans tend to prevent them from dying. Also, being all that IS satisfies Daleks, so a universe where they kill everything else probably qualifies. I guess it depends on whether or not Daleks can rewrite DCU multiverses as they can their own, since they'd just write the Endless out of the rules of nature if they can.
>>104557584Nothing. They have become pepper pot jobbers and not much else.
>>104558541>>104558801Marvel would need direct intervention by the Living Tribunal and above
>>104559019It's canon that the Daleks purposefully set their guns to the lowest possible setting in order to ensure that their victims are in complete agony from their shots as they die. Their highest settings vaporize anything they hit on contact.
>>104559298>It's canon that the Daleks purposefully set their guns to the lowest possible setting in order to ensure that their victims are in complete agony from their shots as they die.Considering they find hatred to be beautiful this does not surprise me. They even have a weird hate-boner for The Doctor because they're the one thing that sets him off.
>>104559368>Very first appearance of the Daleks, the Doctor is trying to make some level of peace with them to no avail>By the end of the story, he's calling them complete monsters
>>104557584Daleks are incompetent, likely they will be defeated easily
>>104557584What happens is that you call Diana. Long story short, the bracelets can seriously block ANYTHING because they're god bullshit, and you need other god bullshit to bypass them. >>104559368>They even have a weird hate-boner for The Doctor because they're the one thing that sets him off.I look forward to Thirteen's first Dalek episode. Since her whole thing is that she's super nice and kind, it'll be interesting to see if she shares the other Doctors' seething hate for the squids.
>>104559019Or half frozen in time Dalek.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha1wfg3nPRE
>>104557584The Daleks, especially when you look into some of the extended lore, are fucking universal threats. These fuckers can rebuild their entire race out of basically nothing, and sure as hell wiping them out in totality is basically impossible since at least one of them is gonna be hiding out somewhere or will warn a previous version of themselves. Really think about what kind of tech they have, planet ending devices are like cell phones for them, they can instantly download the entirety of a planet's telecommunications information and drain the power of entire city in seconds, regenerate themselves quite easily, they can fly and have instant death beams, those crazy invincibility shields, the spheres that vaporize things, being able to trap things by putting them in time pockets, making a fucking planet invisible, and a whole host of other bullshit, if all that doesn't kill you they can time travel and warn themselves. Plus, don't forget, they can adapt very quickly and even absorb other species dna to become stronger. Imagine a Dalek-kryptonian hybrid.
>>104558501That's kind of because of things kind of went to shit after David Tennant, the cult of Skaro worked because it showed that even a handful of daleks alone, with a fraction of their tech and power, were still a galactic threat. But after Russell was like 'fuck it, everything has to be explicitly grand cause fuck subtlety and everything' decided to have daleks all the goddamn time and try upping the stakes only to have the daleks bitch out. Seriously, the daleks have been a joke because of Russell fucking them up. It's sad to think Dr. Who was actually better when it had a shit budget and had to use more practical effects and creative story line, I contend one of the best episodes in this regard was the one were they were trapped on the train with the shape shifter.
>>104558238K, this is going into Batwank Prep time talk. If they get all these chances to study heroes and counter, then the same must be afforded to the heroes.
>>104559491Daleks are only really seen as incompetent because the Doctor is always there to foil them or point out some flaw within their plans that can be exploited for critical damage. Without the Doctor, the Daleks get disgustingly ridiculous in short order.
>>104559982>K, this is going into Batwank Prep time talk. This isn't wank. This is standard Dalek operating procedure in nearly all conflicts. And even if we have the heroes time to prepare, it wouldnt matter. The Daleks have near perfect time travel, lacking in the vast majority of flaws and obstacles that make things difficult for characters like the Flash. Their mastery over it was such to rival even the Time Lords themselves at their height, and they very nearly crushed said Time Lords during the Time War.
>>104557584Some bullshit. The writers of cape comics and Doctor Who alike are generally more interested in inflating the abilities of their characters than anything else.Almost like both are made for children.
>>104557584Just push their trash can over, if a bong with no guns and a screwdriver can do it anyone can
>mfw 2 of the last three seasons ended with Cybermen
>>104560446Love cybermen. Daleks think they have shit on lockdown because timetravel but they're flawed because they want to be an unchanging master race.Cybermen are an ever-evolving, you will become thing, monstrosity. There are no bounds to what they can and eventually will be. Or what we will be eventually. They inhabit the real world and virtual world and change form as necessary. Given access to time travel they'd have the universe instantly.
>>104559847>>104558238>>104560125I'm a big Who fan and didnt know just how strong the Daleks are at their height, good thread>>104560446Every single Capaldi Season ended with a Cyberman in the episode>>104559717I look forward to it because this would be the first post-the time lords arent dead Dalek episode.
>>104560533Not the second season. Heaven sent/hell bent were great.
>>104560524>Cybermen are an ever-evolvingToo bad they always end up exactly the same
>>104560555Damn you budget and fanbase!
>>104560540>Hell Bent greatyou know that's one of those things you can never be sure the person you're talking to agrees with
>>104560610ok, it was fine.
>>104560646I can accept fine, yeah
>>104557668I feel i should point out the Daleks are so superior to the cyberman that the one time they fought (that i can think of off the top of my head) the cyberman were hopelessly out matched, even when the doctor helped them
>>104560691The Cybermen are meant to be more of a zombie hivemind threat. Think Borg. If you made each drone as powerful as a Dalek the episode wouldn't be interesting.The comics had some variations of Cybermen, but we never saw any terrifying variations despite them having the potential to be.
>>104557584Squirrel Girl would defeat them offscreen.
>>104557584MCU would be up shit creek because the Doctor would solve all the problems, which means Tiny Stank would just be a wealthy drug addict alcoholic and everyone else would be unemployed or turning to crime.
>>104557584Marvel would make them diverse quippers who just want to (((((immigrate))))) to earth DC would have superman job to them and batman would figure out how to kill them
>>104560691The Cybermen are powerful, but that's because they're a hivemind threat. In terms of actual physical power, they are severely lacking compared to other Whoverse threats.
>>104557584As soon as the piss on the cosmics, they are fucked.As for DC: Darkseid Is.
>>104560813Remember the pre-Davies days when the Cybermen were weak to gold, exaggerated over the years to the point where a single gold coin made them freeze in fear?
>>104560867>As soon as the piss on the cosmics, they are fucked.Depends entirely on the level of the cosmics and the level of the Daleks. As has already been said, the full Empire will require direct intervention from the true multiverse busters to put a stop to.
>>104560691Honestly, the Cybermen are just jokes. They're not scary, they're not threatening, and the only reason they keep coming back is because they're one of the 'original' villains from the early series. They job literally every time they show up; to the point where they can be fought off with rifles and conventional explosives. They're slow moving, unprotected, inaccurate zombies and have only ever been a threat when they get the drop on people.The only way I can see them being even remotely dangerous is if you really play up their adaptability and hivemindedness. You know what I mean? Like, you shoot a Cyberman, and it dies, but now every Cyberman everywhere is immune to being shot? So you stab the next one and it dies, but now every Cyberman is immune to being stabbed. And so the only way to really beat them is to take out every Cyberman at once, or find keep finding new ways to protect yourself. Or carry around a little gold.
>>104557584If there's hundreds of them they would job horribly. If there's only one it kills half the people on the planet before getting taken down.
>>104561021They were decent threats in Rise of Cybermen/Age of Steel and World Enough and Time/Doctor Falls
>>104561072Were they though? In Rise, they win by surprise attacking everyone of importance and then mind controlling everyone else with their headsets. They only beat the Doctor by, once again, ambushing him in the sewers. In Doctor Falls, they job even harder, because they literally kill about twenty Cybermen in one explosion as they approach the house. There's an entire scene where the Doctor runs around in the woods pointing at them with his screwdriver and they explode. Look at this shit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWHtsVI1LLcThe modern Cyberman is little more than a zombie; only even less threatening, because unlike zombies, Cybermen have to drag you back to their lair to turn you into a zombie. And like a zombie, the only time the Cybermen are actually a threat is when they're a surprise, or you can't just run away from them.
>>104561021That's basically what the replicators in Stargate were like and as much as I fuckin' love Stargate, it irks me how they kept needing to make up more bullshit to stop them. I much prefer that both sides know the other has a weakness and the stories are written around them sabotaging or avoiding the other sides advantage somehow.
What happens if we throw Doomsday at them?Everyone else would probably be fucked either way, but Doomsday vs Daleks, who wins?
Could Daleks defeat the Bydo from R-Type? The Bydo is a evil force that assimilate all it come into contact with. They even managed to infect time itself, becoming one with it.
>>104557721They have a history of "teaming up" with useful idiots, and more particularly with useful idiots who are would-be conquerors or are doing time research. Of course, they may find they've bitten off more than they can chew if they try to use DOOM.
ALL BRITS ARE FAGGOTS
>>104561529Well the Asguardians were dumb enough to "imprison" them in a time dilatation field, which the replicators just used to make themselves into nanobots. Yeah let's just give them all the fucking time in the world to evolve lol.
>>104557623The power of the Daleks fluctuates like crazy. Sometimes their blast insta-kills any lifeform (even robots), other times they just cause some damage. Sometimes the blast wipes out other weapons, other times it doesn’t. Sometimes they can handle everything up to a nuke, other times you can kill them with a tree branch.At their prime, full-on army at their peak, they’re a threat to pretty much every single universe. They’re pretty much Crisis tier, especially if we’re talking Time War era where you had Davros at his most ambitious and the most successful and smartest Dalek Emperor.
>>104560691>I feel i should point out the Daleks are so superior to the cyberman that the one time they fought (that i can think of off the top of my head) the cyberman were hopelessly out matched, even when the doctor helped themIt was from the David Tennatt era, basically the cult of skarro, 4 daleks, vs millions of cybermen. The Daleks didn't even consider it a fight.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN19oHTv_Vg
>>104563905Finally found the video I was looking forhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMxz4cMKuc
>>104563905desu that is still one of my favorite scenes from doctor who.
>>104563425Sooner or later, they'd just get rid of him completely with one or more newly-developed weapons.Either that, or they convert him into a Dakek.
>>104563905>WE WO-ULD NEED ON-LY ONE DALEK TO EX-TERMINATE THE CYBERMENAnd they prove it soon after too.
>>104560811kek marvel is shameless
>>104563801See >>104559298. They purposefully lower their energy weapons to their lowest settings because they want to prolong the suffering of their victims as they die.
>>104558059>and a curbstomp for Marvelno it would end with DOOM taking over the empire.
>>104564773Truly a chilling vision, once the Dalek immmigrants had brutally murdered President Donald J Trump they could set their plan of conquest and destruction into motion.
>>104558059But marvel and dc have heroes who break time and reality itself. Daleks would be fucked against Dr Fate for instance.
>>104558465Superman thoughts Armor, DC's "I win" button.DOOM, Marvel's "lol It's a win for me I ain't explain shit"
Could Wolverine regenerate from a Dalek killbeam?
>>104565348Has wolverine ever regenerate from become nothingless?
>>104557584MarvelLike every tech plague/species, it would be absorbed into Ultron. Warlock's species would eat them like chicken nuggets.DCBig threat for the GL corps in the first arc, turned into stooge army by Cyborg within two years.
>>104559847>Plus, don't forget, they can adapt very quickly and even absorb other species dna to become stronger. Imagine a Dalek-kryptonian hybridThey only do that as an act of last resort, as the resulting hybrids wouldnt be "pure" Daleks and would be immediately exterminated the second thier usefulness was done. Anything that deviates from thier mantra of "Not-Daleks=DIE DIE DIE" is considered an utter abomination. Hell, the first Dalek of the revived series accidentally absorbed some of the Doctor's companion's DNA and became less hateful as a result, but it became so horrified with itself that it strait up committed suicide by the episode's end.
>>104565466Daleks aren’t entirely machine though
>>104565359the Dalek beams just kill you though. They don't destroy the body
>>104557584Which villains would attempt to side with the Daleks? Which villains would the Daleks deign to work with (temporarily)?
>>104558243He's going to try to tank it and get fucked in the process like he always doesBeing invulnerable to most things has its downsides
>>104561021>The only way I can see them being even remotely dangerous is if you really play up their adaptability and hivemindedness. You know what I mean? Like, you shoot a Cyberman, and it dies, but now every Cyberman everywhere is immune to being shot? So you stab the next one and it dies, but now every Cyberman is immune to being stabbed. And so the only way to really beat them is to take out every Cyberman at once, or find keep finding new ways to protect yourself.This is the premise of the Cyberiad Cybermen from "nightmare in silver"UPGRADE IN PROGRESS>>104565348No. At least not without magic bullshit>>104565987They can desintegrate but they like you to suffer
>>104563425Doomsday dies and stays dead.The daleks have a literally archive of weapons designed specifically to kill people that normally use hax to un-death themselves. One of them will probably kill Doomsday permanently already, and if they don't have one already they will invent one.
>It's another Doctor who powerwank thread.Animated adaptation of Jubilee when?
>>104563922I dont even have to click it to know what it is>no, it is cyberbullying
>>104563514>That salty Jap who cant handle how Britain shaped the world and not his crummy empire that barely lasted 30 years.
>>104566966Probably a yank soldier stationed over there or a JET program weab
Would a Dalek be suitable for a Red Lantern Ring?
>>104566990Yes, although they have 0 creativity so it wouldn't be that interesting. Probably just funnel it into its killbeam
>>104557584Doctor Who is so fucking trash, why is BBC still making it?
>>104566838>anotherIs this a common thing on /co/?
>>104567080Same reason Disney is still making Marvel movies.
>>104565078It would only end like that if the writer was a total fucking moron. Well it is Marvel we're talking about, so that would probably end up happening.
>>104567099Doctor Who is not making money for BBC same as new Top Gear
Are Daleks even a threat in modern Who? They're pretty much comic relief at this point.
>>104566944That line always gets me, it's just a funny little skit.>>104565466>Big threat for the GL corps in the first arc, turned into stooge army by Cyborg within two years.>Daleks always pissed off and love instilling fear into their enemies>Daleks with either red or yellow power ringsWew lad.>>104567232>Are Daleks even a threat in modern Who?Eh, kind of? Most of the time they are shat on but occasionally they actually do seem like a real threat. Honestly anything about the Daleks written by Moffet usually portrays them as comically weak but I chalk that up to the fact that Moffet turned Dr. Who into Dr. Wank and his episodes are generally just masturbation for the doctor, so of course the Dr. casually beats his arch nemesis. But for most of the series the Daleks are at least universal threats, if not multiversal because of that branching timeline bullshit. Never forget that they basically won the time war, a battle pitted against the closest things to space-time gods the universe has. If they Dalek empire was actually back at its zenith like during the time war, which given some time they probably could be, they would be a massive threat.
>>104566003I could see Luthor trying to manipulate them to his ends. And then get EXTERMINATED when he's no longer useful for their goals.
>>104557584Easy. Instant death
What heroes could 1v1 a Dalek?
>>104567057Red Larnterns aren’t exactly known for constructs anyway
>>104560540>Heaven sent was greatFTFY.
>>104565144The Daleks fought a multiverse-sundering war against a race of beings who would consider anything short of every single Lord Of Order at once attacking them as being a minor inconvenience (and even then). A war that involved more time and reality-sundering bullshit than you usually see even in capeshit. Where new realities were created and destroyed just to grant tactical advantages to or side, and where infinite casual loops were created and collapsed over and over again just to change the outcome of single battles across all existence.The Daleks very nearly won that war.
>>104569717>The Daleks very nearly won that war.I mean, they kind of did until that "galifrey trapped in a painting" bullshit. Even still the Daleks are still an active threat, albeit they are far weaker than they once were they still could reach such heights again given some time to regroup and repopulate.
>>104560524Comparisons like that really make me wonder what could have happened if we actually did get a Cyber-Dalek alliance in Doomsday.It's not completely impossible given dalek Sec was later seen willing to compromise Dalek imperative.
>>104569600Dr Fate could possibly do so, probably any of the Flashes and maybe Supes too if he decides to go right for the kill from the start.
A reminder the Daleks lost a war to these guys.
>>104569917A Dalek-Cyberman hybrid would be a fucking nightmare to deal with.
>>104557668Daleks are much more powerful than Cybermen. They are even more powerful than Mondasian Cybermen who are more powerful than the alternate universe cyborg ones. I would say the heavy hitters of either universe might not have a problem with the Daleks. Some of the tech based Heroes might though and the normal humans except with super powers like Spiderman might not survive. I think the major deciding factor would be any form of Invulnerability. Tony Stark just wears armor and i have this feeling the death ray the Daleks use would just go right through it and if it didn't kill him it would cripple him but someone like the Hulk or Superman might shrug it off.
>>104569953The Whoopi Golbergs?
>>104570389The Movellans were robots. The Daleks and them had perfect battlecomputers that constantly came up with a strategy and counter strategy. So their war went on for years without a shot being fired. Finally they just gassed the Daleks.
>>104570332Again, we have to be clear which Daleks we're talking about, because Time War Daleks are on another level. I say this because all of the Daleks we've seen after the 9th doctor are the remnants of those left behind and are still in the process of rebuilding, so they don't represent the Daleks at full power.
>>104569600Plastic Man or Metamorpho.
>>104559019That did kill the Doctor though. The only reason he didn't drop dead straight after is because his body instantly kicked in the regeneration process. It was also handy that Jack teleported in just in time to blow up the attacking Dalek or it would have interrupted the regeneration and finished the Doctor off.
>>104568358Oh they're always a threat in modern who. It's just that the only person who can stop them (The Doctor) is around to stop them a lot.Some tend to forget that the Daleks curbstomp everyone else, and for good reason.
>>104570555Trips worthy of being EX-TERMINATED.
>>104570555Yea, actually I do remember one time when The Daleks simply sent a broadcast to Earth and Sarah Jane and Jack immediately lost all hope because The Doctor wasn't there.
>>104571020One of the season finale, where they still a whole bunch of planets.Sarah started sobbing and hugging her kid right after she heard the first EXTERMINATE
>>104558231No joke, Daleks can science their way through any superpowers but they can't do shit about weaponized autism.
>>104558260Man, we really need a proper refresher on the timewar in the show.
>"I feel, everything we wanted for mankind...ambition, hatred, aggression and war. Such genius for war...At heart, [the human race] is so very...Dalek">Doctor immediately tries to change the subject out of frustration..Honestly, they really glossed over one of the more unexplored elements of doctor who (at least post-revival), especially considering the setting for this scene was earth in the late 1930s.>>104570137I could imagine that it would cause the Doctor to basically flee earth to before thinking of a plan. And that they would at some point turn against each other.
>>104563481It would end in an eternal stalemate. The Daleks would be unable to fully destroy the Bydo, but the Bydo would never be able to truly get rid of the Daleks either. They'll just clash with each other for all eternity, and would probably kick off a war as large as the Last Great Time War as a result.But here's a horrifying thought on that note; Bydo-Daleks.
Anyone remember that episode of star trek with a robot that was very similar to a dalek? Was that a ripoff or an homage?
>>104560782Tony would be in the midst of creating Ultron and the Doctor would be like>oh not this again, what is it with humans and robots? Enough with the robots!
>>104570137Would a Dalek-Cyberman hybrid want to upgrade everyone into its interpretation of the master race?
>>104560902>Copper, drains my powers
>>104561021Cybermen should just be like the borg, except subtle as fuck. That stuff with the earbuds? That was great. Their whole deal should be about integrating with new minds/tech.
I've often argued the superiority of Daleks over practically every other fiction villain.It's easy to make a scary or threatening villain by encasing him in armor or grafting power tools as extra limbs.But it takes real genius to make something that looks like a giant salt shaker with a plunger and an egg beater attached to the middle into an actual credible threat to be taken seriously.
>>104571924They should bring back the Supreme Dalek that literally had a flashlight for an eye.
>>104571474The Doctor acknowledged mankind's propensity for being utter dicks many times though. It's just that he also sees the good in humans and most of the time it's only a select few that actively try to make existence a shittier place. The fact we try our damndest to be better as a species and as individuals, especially given we live maybe a century at best, elevates us in the Doctor's eyes, even when he gets sick of our shit.>906 years old? My god......we must be like ants to you>I think you're giants.He's like that friend who knows he should write us off but just cant find it in his heart to do it
>>104570445>Finally they just gassed the Daleks.How does that work? The daleks' frame is a hermetically sealed life support system for the squid inside. Gas should be completely ineffective against them.
>>104572035It was some weird virus thing that effected the Dalek casing as well.
Shame the new Showrunner and staff dropped all the classic Who stuff.Could have had some fun with maybe a Grand Lady DalekWon't say Cyberwoman because we've been down that horrid road before.
>>104571976He knows humanity can do great things and believes in us despite our failings.A good man The Doctor
>>104557584I always had trouble taking the Daleks to be a serious menace.
I remember one episode involving a Dalek made from a human or something along those lines.Do Daleks and humans a connection? Similar DNA? Backup plan in case they die?Is that why the Doctor hangs out with humans a lot so that we don't turn into them?
>>104561021>immune to being shot>immune to being stabbedThat's not how penetrating trauma works.
>>104572243They'd just disintegrate the stairs
>>104572244Daleks are cpaable of ocnverting humans (and others) into Daleks. They hardly ever do so though, becuase it's usually seen as tainting the purity of the Dalek form, but it's something they have available.>spoilerAs for this; probably. Davros was your average kid before he went batshit and turned his entire race into the Daleks. The Doctor is likely watching us to make sure that we don't go the same way.
>>104571474It's implied heavily multiple times that the Time Lords and the Daleks aren't so different from each other. The Doctor ironically being one of the prime examples.It's just that the human race is even MORE like the Daleks than the average Time Lord too.
>>104571057Yea, and Jack wrapped an arm around each of his friends and gave them a forehead kiss and simply said that there was nothing they could do and they were dead.
>>104572919>We'll never get a plotline of a human empire seeking to kill/enslave all non-humans, and testing the doctor's faith in humanity.>Nor a companion that gets persuaded to betray him for that cause.Shame.
>>104573154I am not sure there has been an established point where that happens. I do remember there being times when humanity had to leave earth and was enslaved.
>>104565052That seems stupid when they shoot THE DOCTOR and they don’t insta kill him.Also like I said sometimes they’re unlikable, and other times they die easily with the same shielding and equipment.
>>104573527>That seems stupid when they shoot THE DOCTOR and they don’t insta kill himThey did kill him. He just instantly began to regenerate. And even then, the offending Dalek would've interrupted and finished him off if it wasn't stopped before it could.
Galactus vs Daleks?Abraxas vs Daleks?Thanos with infinity gauntlet could just erase them.Death could kill them, because she's Death.Would Ghost Rider's penance stare work on Daleks, or is it like how the Spectre can't kill the Joker because he doesn't feel any guilt for his crimes? I can't exactly remember the specifics of how it works.Also, I forget if this applies to Marvel as well, but in DC, Abrahamic God definitely exists, so there's that.
>>104573997>Thanos with infinity gauntlet could just erase them.Depends on the Daleks. The Time Lords t4ied the same trick during the Time War. Multiple times even. It didn't stick.>Would Ghost Rider's penance stare work on Daleks, or is it like how the Spectre can't kill the Joker because he doesn't feel any guilt for his crimes? I can't exactly remember the specifics of how it works.The Daleks likely don't even fathom what "guilt" is. They only understand hatred.
>>104574169Well I know they wouldn't feel guilt, I'm asking if that's how the penance stare works or if it's just the suffering you've inflicted, or something like that, or if it's based on the person having remorse or guilt for what they've done. And infinity gauntlet > Time Lords, the only reason Thanos lost is because he subconsciously sabotaged himself, not because of clever trickery to overcome his omnipotence or a flaw in how the infinity gems work.
>>104573645>InstantlyYeah no. Also, before that the rays were supposed to kill the Doctor before he would be able to regenerate.
>>104573997Depends on which death, Marvel's can be destroyed or otherwise locked out of universes (see Shuma-Gorath and cancerverses), DC's is supposed to have the power to do her duty throughout the multiverse, but I don't know from crossovers if she works in those outside the DCU, since, as far as I recall, she's part of DC God's creation still.
>>104557584They'd get tossed into the trash like the rest of fans.
>>104574255>And infinity gauntlet > Time Lords, the only reason Thanos lost is because he subconsciously sabotaged himself, not because of clever trickery to overcome his omnipotence or a flaw in how the infinity gems work.Only in its universe. It's completely useless otherwise. Whereas the Time Lords can do whatever the gauntlet can do without the same failings.Also, the stare only works if the entity in question has regrets over their actions. It doesn't work on truly inhuman things without guilt.
>>104574605The question was if Daleks showed up in the DC or Marvel universes, therefore the infinity gauntlet would still be within it's home universe. And can you back up your claim that the Time Lords can do what LITERAL OMNIPOTENCE can, and do it better?
>>104571924Just brings me back to when I watched 'Dalek' for the first time, instant 'oh fuck' when he escapes the cell and becomes super-intelligent. Even more so when he just wipes out the soldiers like nothing.
Can the Master take over the DC/ Marvel Universes?
>>104575292Well what is it then?
>>104575310Something with vast amounts of power but nowhere near the end-all-be-all you make it out to be. Anything that can casually obliterate the multiverse without fail is already well beyond it. Especially if Thanos is the one calling the shots.
>>104557634The Doctor and Doctor Doom team up to save the Earth (or as in Doom's case, to save Latveria and by extension the rest of the planet while biding his time to betray the Doctor and steal his technology because of course Doom would betray him.)Now, the set and tone of the story depends of which Doctor is the one who teams up with Doom. One and Three would keep his eye on him, Two, Four and Seven would drive him nuts, Six would make Doom himself feel threatened, Five, Ten and Eleven would play dumb and foil Doom's backstabbing with a smile, and Nine, War and Twelve would keep Doom on a tight leash and have no room for jokes- I can imagine Twelve hitting Doom with his shoe every time the dictator starts a villian monologue, War just giving him an icy glare now and then and Nine managing to destroy all of his weapons while suggesting him to plant bananas there.Fuck Eight, by the way.
>>104575365Well yeah, when it's limited to one reality, but in a "closed system" I'm pretty sure the only things more powerful than it ARE omnipotent. The point is, if all the Daleks showed up in one universe, and a full set of infinity gems that worked in that universe were used, there's nothing the Daleks themselves can do to not stop existing. Okay, do you have any complaints with that explanation? This is the last post I'm making on this thread about infinity gems. And I only said Thanos because he wouldn't have any problem wiping the Daleks out, and everybody knows that he had all six gems in his possession, not everyone knows everyone else who has.>>104575419>Bananas are good
>>104575492>The point is, if all the Daleks showed up in one universeProblem with that is that the Daleks *wouldn't* be in one universe. They'd be everywhere, in every timeline and reality, or popping in from other realities entirely and popping out just as soon as they appeared. And if that isn't enough, they can just build another Void Ship and chill out to scheme whilst Thanos rages impotentlyEither that or they build the Reality Bomb and annihilate everything. That also counts as a victory in their book.
>>104574783He'd be manipulating everyone from behind the scenes in Marvel in about a couple days, but would have a slightly harder time in DC with its won super-geniuses. Though only slightly.
>>104575554Okay, again, talking about a closed system, they can't exit the universe, no more can enter the universe, the number of Daleks involved is finite, because casually going in and out of dimensions and time periods makes any group or species capable of doing so nearly impossible to wipe out unless you could simultaneously affect all timelines, dimensions, time periods, locations, and wherever else they could retreat to, which apparently wasn't something the Time Lords could do either after the Daleks extinction was retconned.
>>104575996>which apparently wasn't something the Time Lords could do either after the Daleks extinction was retconned.They tried to. Countless times throughout the War even. But it never worked.Also, even in a closed system, the Daleks still have way too many advantages that make them practically unstoppable.
>>104576104Whatever, Dalek should have been the last time Daleks were directly involved anyway.
>>104566990I seem to recall there was fanfic about a member of a cult of skarro getting one, it was shit
>>104576183That's your own fault for reading fanfics.
>>104576198shut up nerd
>>104574783He'd be able to do Secret Invasion but without the retarded splash page right in central park.