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it was only 5 years ago and it is already starting to look like shit
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>>104556384
I really really really hate the Pixar/Disney style and it's a shame that it dominate the whole of the western 3D cartoon movies industry.
Why can't we get stuff that looks like Gantz: O?
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>>104556384
Spoiler alert, it already looked shit at the time.
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>>104556603

Disney became a multi billion dollar corporate entity where they just bought their competition and profited off their success instead of wasting money and being experimental

they now have enough content that they can just live off from now till the heat death of the universe making nothing but sequels and remakes
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>>104556384
maybe it's your tastes wisening up
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>>104556384
Dude, I don't understand Disney's insistence on one theme nowadays. They used to have a bundle of different themes, like preservance in Cinderella, moving on in Lion King, or a thief with good intentions is still a good person in Aladdin.

Nowadays, you only this persistent, unrealistic theme of "do whatever you want because you're always right and anyone that tells you otherwise is a villian." That's not how real life works. La La Land addressed this theme pretty well: there is consequences in having whatever you want. You have to choose between what you like and what's necessary. That's real life. You actuallu have to struggle.
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>>104556603
gantz O sucks
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>>104556706
I mean, it had a lot of problems, but I quite appreciated the visuals, although it varied a lot from scene to scene.
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>>104556504
You know that's actually a pretty informative explanation and not just MUH DICK.
It does get kind annoying to see other characters act so out of Character like that chick from Rwby and Asami.
Maybe you could try making your own character to be an rich edgelord lady with no foresight drawing inspiration from the ones you already project your fetish onto.
It's also absurd and out of context easily for that fetish, maybe dial it back a bit and add some plot of how things got so crazy instead of dropping directly into hunger factories and buying cartoonishly large trucks with terrible gas mileage.
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>>104556384
It looked aged on release. Doesn't matter. The sequel is coming.
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>>104556384
this is the problem with all CG animation.

Go back and watch Toy Story 2 or the Incredibles, they look fucking ridiculous now.
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>>104557019

Well I mean to be fair a storyboarder who worked on Clarence and later Mighty Magiswords recently found my DA and thought it was the weirdest thing he ever saw

And that time that Rooster Teeth reviewed my DA as well
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>>104557046

There is something weirdly charming about how Toy Story 1 and Bugs Life used to look. I love how John openly admitted Skud, Sid's dog looked like utter dog shit in the theatrical release so during the video release he went back in post editing and touched up the dog so it didn't look as bad

Toy Story 1 truly was a growing point for Pixar knowing what sorts of movies they would make later in life
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>>104556384
Wasn't Frozen a really cheap film, with obvious mistakes, but one which became insanely successful?
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>>104557151

Budget was 150 Mil. Not exactly cheap but fuck me it exceeded its budget beyond all comprehension.
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Yup. 3D animation doesn't age well. Meanwhile, 2D animated films from 75 years ago still look great.
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>>104557198

Tarzan, Atlantis, Treasure Planet and Starship Troopers all belong on a fucking pedastool of accomplishment
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>>104557198
3D animation is timeless
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>>104556675
>mfw jimmy neutron has somehow aged the best out of all cgi tv shows
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Funny how nobody has actually articulated why it's bad yet
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>>104557230

Its because of the writing. The best episode was the one where they were forced to participate in a gameshow and if their race lost their planet would be exterminatus

that scene where the telepathic brains implant holograms in Jimmy and his friends making them believe they have entered a nightmare world where everyone is a mindless zombie that eats sheetrock flavored ice cream
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>>104557248
i DON'R like the movie, therefore the CGI is bad
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>>104557248
The rendering is really off in Frozen. Half the scenes the characters look like they're in front of a greenscreen instead of part of the environment
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>>104557378
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That what happens when the movie is animated at literally the last minute. It was released in November and they were still rewriting the script in fucking June. Frozen Fever had more time than that, and it was a ten minute short
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>>104557378

Keep in mind this came out after Tangled which has somehow aged better then a movie that came out 3 years later

Also Tangled has 1 million more in budget 200 Mil compared to Frozen 150 Mil
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>>104557413
That's what happens when a female director is in charge
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>>104557459

Least this doesn't need to be the case for companies like Pixar right now.
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>>104556616
This and
>>104557413
this.

I remember people pointing out half finished backgrounds not long after the release. I’ll never be able to unnotice the way Hans on the boat is holding his jaw right before Anna punches him, because they had last minute cut a scene where Kristoff punches him first, and they didn’t have time to reanimate him.
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>>104557414
The lantern scene in Tangled is still on top tier in visual experience in the current era of animation.
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>>104557151
>>104557180
Frozen is the basically The Lion King for Gen Z. Both are flawed films with troubled production histories that unexpectedly struck box office gold.

>>104557508
Lion King had a bunch of dodgy animation that they reanimated in the DVD release.
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>>104557603

Also keep in mind Lion King was made by the B-Team while Pocohantas was made by the A-Team and the B-Team was the one that got recommended for the academy awards
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>>104557198
as a general rule that's true. although the line between the two isn't necessarily as clear as people think since a lot of the later 2d films incorporated a bit of cgi
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>>104557603
But the plot, songs, animation, character development, sidekicks and villain of Lion King is obviously the superior one tho.
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>>104557615
Pochantas made more money and was more succssful. Of course it was animated by the A-team
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>>104557651

Not to mention Frozen both as a film and its merchandising while massive is but a mere drop in the bucket back when Disney was making money off Lion King merch
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>>104556384
When Frozen came out it was already incredible dated, like they spend all their time on Elsa and Anna models but the rest was made as blurry and fast as possible.

Even tangled looks better. But that's because they actually cared about that movie.

Doesn't help WIR 2 already made better models of them, making the movie look even worse
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>>104557674

Anon you're full of shit Lion King made 100x more then Pocohantas did and this is coming from a movie that spawned 2 direct to video sequels, a tv spinoff a fucking musical and a rabid fanbase that kept throwing money at Disney to where their hands were tied when making the live action remake
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>>104557413
They should have gone through a few more drafts until they’d cut the trolls completely, at least. That was one element that made it to the final film that is noticeably much much less important than in earlier scripts and it really feels like somebody on staff just refused to let them go and scrap the work they’d put into them.
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>>104556677
Because Disney fans, much like anime fans, only ever consume Disney, and all of the Disney animators are Disney fans.

When you only have a single influence, you're going to end up with a style that amounts to a watered down version of your influence.
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>>104557746
>their hands were tied when making the live action remake
Disney's hands were tied when making the Lion King live action movie?
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>>104557820
>live action
>100% cgi movie
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>>104556384
The movie already looks like a direct-to-DVD film like the Tinkerbell films, and even those didn't look that half-finished.

Hell, even though it's beginning to age like milk now, even Wreck-it Ralph looked better than Frozen, and it was released a year prior.
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>>104557046
Hey, at least Toy Story and Incredibles had the excuse of them trying to pioneer shit and being in CGI's infancy.

Frozen doesn't get that excuse.
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>>104557812
What? All of the director commentary state influences that are wildly different from what they're working on. Even the art books do this. WallE director specifically stated "The Triplets of Bellevile" as a main influence for the opening sequence.
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>>104557855
What did Incredibles do?
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>>104557840

That's because you're comparing a Pixar movie to a solo disney movie there is a reason why Disney bought Pixar because without them they realistically would have ended up like Dreamworks or Blue Sky
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How does Rango still look good despite aiming for a more realistic style?
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>>104557892
It's heavily stylized, meaning any flaws can be assumed to be on purpose.
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>>104556384
CGI will never age gracefully. what's amazing-looking then is going to look corny now. 2d, however, will always look gorgeous if done right
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>>104558069
Are you joking? Snow white looks like shit today
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>>104558089

Give Walt a break that was his 1st attempt.

Pinocchio on the other hand that film is a fucking visual masterpiece
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>>104558089
The worst 2d will be better than the worst 3d. And the best 2d will be better than the best 3d.
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>>104558139

Yes I use to meme on this back when I lived at The Children's Village but if you wanna extend the shelf life of wonder bread which is literally all just processed bleach chemical you absolutely need to freeze it.
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>>104558134
>And the best 2d will be better than the best 3d.
wrong
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>>104557869
Attempt humans that didn't look like they were from the depths of the uncanny valley, plus Violet's hair.

>>104557968
That and it's ILM, they know their shit most of the time unlike Disney/Pixar.
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>>104558111
>Pinocchio
>visual masterpiece
Yeah, pick one
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>>104558165
Nope, I'm right. You are wrong. 3D sucks.
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>>104557892
I want to fuck Jake.
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>>104558181
based, dude
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>>104557762
>until they’d cut the trolls completely, at least
god fucking damn it this
useless fucking trolls
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>>104558089
>snow white looks like shit today
sometimes I just take the bait in order to post animation videos
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>>104557892
I want to see this film
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>>104558537
The snake villain and graphics are shit
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>>104558537
Despicable Me was better
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>>104558630
>Illumination
>Better
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>>104557180
>Budget was 150 Mil.
This really pisses me off because for years people were saying "2D theatrical animation is too expensive" when even after you adjust for inflation Disney spends like $15-$100 million more on their CGI movies and live action remakes than they ever did on their 2D stuff.
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>>104557892
what an awful colour pallet.
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>>104557762
It really feels like Olaf was tacked on at the last minute. Like half of the scenes he's in you could edit him out and nothing could change. There's tons of moments when he says or does something and no one even acknowledges his existence.
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>>104556384
It always looks terrible and weirdly animated because they rushed the whole entire movie for fucking Let it go despite the deadline. If they had probably stuck to the earlier ideals and didnt rushed it; the animation would have look better but it wouldn't have made nowhere near as much money.
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>>104556384
Traditional animation always ALWAYS looks better.
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>>104560153
That might be the worst part. The lesson they learned from the whole thing was that they made the right choice, and that it really is better and more profitable to hastily halfass a movie around a pop song at the last minute, as long as that song happens to become a hit single, and that focusing on making an actually well rounded and good quality film isn’t fully necessary.
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>>104556706
Fuck u I liked it
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>>104557046
It's true that CGI ages like shit but it's only with really specific examples.

Toy Story and many early Pixar movies retain a certain charm to them, stuff like Kung Fu Panda still looks really good and stuff like Guardians of Ga'Hoole still looks visually stunning.

Frozen just looks like shit and has a shoddy story on top of it. It doesn't have a strong visual presence, or at the very least a good narrative and/or excuse for its lackluster visual impact.
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>>104557222
What about Titan A.E?
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>>104559733
And people pay millions more for 3D than 2D. It's the current trend, so until a team of 2D animators make the next Snow White (and millions and millions of dollars), 3D is here to stay.
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>>104560535
I think a large part of that is just confirmation bias because movies in general are making way more money than they used to. 38 out of the top 50 highest grossing movies in history came out AFTER Princess and the Frog.
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>>104556384
If you think that is shit, take a gander at this
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>>104560803
It's not perfect.
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>>104556384
Is it weird that I didn't know about Frozen until like almost a year after it came out?
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>>104560830
and neither is cgi
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>>104559551
DM1 is quite good fairly to say. Though all of DM sequels and other illumination productions are trash.
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>>104558537
The Snake made children cry in the theatre I was in when it came out.

It was great.
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>>104560836
A little, but it's ok. Frozen was honestly overrated.
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>>104556384
Is it just me or do cgi eyes seem to age the absolute worst?
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>>104560900
what was that about imperfect cgi eyes?
>>104560803
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>>104558391
The faces of the human characters look a little off but it's entirely forgivable because the animators weren't well versed in drawing people like that yet. Other than that it's still a gorgeous film
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>>104557230
It's because it went for a more stylized look
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>>104556384
Wasn’t this movie littered with animation errors and unfinished shit? It didn’t age badly, it’s always been bad.
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>>104559733
"2D is more expensive" is the most annoying thing thats been spread around for the past 10 years.
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>>104556616
spbp

On a larger note, people make a big deal about CGI "aging poorly", but the human eye hasn't changed and Wind Waker non-HD still looks better than 99% of the games made today. The only reason people mistakingly believed that certain things looked good was because of spectacle and the idea of technology rather than an aesthetic judgement.
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>>104556657
>Disney is now EA
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>>104560172
For a movie like frozen I agree, but there's some films that I feel benefited from being cgi
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>>104561257
Disney has been EA since before EA was EA.
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>>104561273
Wreck it Ralph has some pretty stunning background textures if you stop and look at it. Plus the premise.
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>>104557873
Wreck It Ralph isn't Pixar, anon
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>>104561273
>Anna psychotically talks to a statue
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>blender animations of elsa

move over grandpa SFM
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>>104557230
Nickelodeon in general was always pretty ahead of its time for CG shows relative to when they were being made.

Fanboy and Chum Chum is a shit show but they actually tried to do a lot of 2D stretch n squash using TV CG and it worked well sometimes. And this was before stuff like Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs took off and proved to people you could have those kinds of movements in CG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q9j7vzv5Bg
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>>104560172
>The animation style that had 80+ years to develop looks better than the 30 year old one

If you compare animation timelines, CG is only just now reaching it's Fantasia point. Toy Story came out at the equal time where Snow White wasn't even made yet.
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>>104557869
cloth physics.
the team literally didn't believe you could have a whole in clothing and have someone stick there hand through said hole until they made it.
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>>104556384
that's cgi for you
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>>104561520
Didn't SFM do a rehaul that fucked over current SFM porn artists?
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>>104557840
>Tinkerbell films
Whatever happened to that property? They were unironically good and the characters were cute as fuck.
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>>104557892
Mimics a lot of camera effects like blur and exposure settings, along with brown and bloom. Just look at that gun, it looks like it comes straight out of one of the gamecube resident evil games.
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>>104547256
gentlemen,
we have come full circle real puppets are the next step
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>>104561728
Got shut down to make way for Planes stuff.
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>>104561817
Planes 3 never
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>>104561361
At this point it doesn't matter. They're all same.
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>>104556706
fuck you man gantz o was good
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>>104557230
It was possibly the first CG TV show to actually look decent.
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>>104561018
GLTAS likewise benefited from an artstyle intentionally designed to mimic action figures.

>>104561635
I'm pretty sure they also talked about the effort it took to get the scenes on the water looking right.
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>>104561635
>have someone stick there hand through said hole
Wait, when did that happen?
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>>104559733
2D was never more expensive, what it is is more labour intensive. And if there's one think American executives hate it's depending on a bunch of employees, while they love putting all of their money into technology so they can take credit for any success.
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>>104557603
>Lion King
>Flawed
I was too young to be into the Lion King, but the film is near immaculate. Every song is perfection, wonderful cinematic shots, & lovable characters. Other than being Disney's Kimba, what is wrong?
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>>104561502
>implying that already isn't canon
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>>104562668
Edna looking at Bob's old superhero suit.
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>>104562668
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>>104561817
Then they shut down the whole studio. No replacement, no increased production. Hundreds laid off.

>>104562861
>Dozens of staff to interact with
>Chooses a bust & paintings to strike up conversation with
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>>104562898
They aren't people
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>>104562913
Yes they are. Like three of them have names!
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>>104558391
Rotoscoped as shit.
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>>104561753
Fuck me, I thought this was a piece of cgi then the technicians showed up.
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>>104562995
>rotoscoping is evil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDATXtewPrg
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>>104563036
>Comparing the creative use of rotoscoping in that video with a literal 1:1 trace of somebody dancing.
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>>104556384
>everyone in this fucking thread

Just let it go, guys.
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>>104561657
What exactly did they change?
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>>104556384
is this why disney is remaking movies into live action?
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>>104556384
it looked shit when it came out
all of the environments were boring and empty with no character or detail
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>>104561924
>it's not fair to compare disney to pixar
>but it doesn't matter because they're the same
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The movie wasn't praised for looking good. It had a rock solid sound track and that was about it
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>>104558391
It looks far worse Pinochio, Phantasia or Bambi.
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>>104556616
Glad somebody said it. It came out after Tangled, and somehow looked worse.
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>>104563329
Nah. Let it go.
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>>104563840
oh my
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>>104560480
>Ga'
I refuse to not be mad about the studio intentionally sabotaging Guardians of Ga'Hoole
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>>104563329
It had 2 good songs
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>>104562668
>>104562872
>>104562890
It was also when Bob first noticed the tear, right before he was called to dinner.
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>>104561273
>tfw we never got Frozen as a mid-90's Disney movie
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>>104558089
This isn't your ordinary everyday bait

This is


ADVANCED BAIT
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>>104560525
That movie is mediocre middling middlesomeness. it doesn't even look good after all these years, either.
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>>104563840
The way they're vibrating makes it look more like they're on a particularly jittery train more than anything else
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>>104556384
>Another 3D vs. 2D argument
>Not nearly as bad as Western vs. Anime arguments
>Except it is

Stay classy, everyone - also, way to ignore the obviously bad CGI stuff like the cowards you are.
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>>104565432
Not even that, Frozen was a production nightmare, couple of months before release they had to change the story so the villain song wouldn't be villain song anymore.
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>>104557046
Brave looks way better than Frozen
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>>104557230
we didn't deserve this show
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>>104565627
Hugh Neutron is one of the best cartoon characters ever made in the history of animation.
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>>104565425
Yeah
The fuck train
CHOO CHOO
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>>104557762
>really feels like somebody on staff just refused to let them go and scrap the work they’d put into them
I think that was Jennifer Lee actually but I'm not 100% sure.
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>>104560830
made me lol
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>>104562700
But then people using the technology should be praised, not executives.
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A lot of aging of CGI can be attributes to increase in resolution we watch the movies in. Shrek 1 came out in 2001, when TVs were still standard definition. Back then it looked alright. Now all the movements look sloppy and smudged.
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>>104563065
To be fair, this is a thread of actual discussion as opposed to yet another THICC thread, or a webcomic thread that devolves into political shitflinging
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>>104557053
what is your DA?
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>>104560840
Dumb zoomer.
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>>104557892
Color and lighting, the trick to an good CGI.
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why does incredibles 2 already look aged?
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>>104568616
Evalyn isn't in the picture.
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>>104557869
Hair and cloth
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>>104557603
Lion King at least has good designs, acting and plot. Frozen is literally "focus tested winter story made to make a gorillian dollars" the movie
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It happens all the time with CGI animation.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a decade we see "Toy Story: Remastered".
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>>104556384

It looked like shit even when I first watched it. Granted it was on a 640x480 screen on a plane entertainment system, but still. People were talking up how great it is, but it looked cheap as fuck. I've seen video games with better animation.
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>>104568748
Oh jesus fuck disney this will happen
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>>104568748
How would that even work? It's not like they can scan the film in 4K and fuck with the color sliders. Are they going to re-render the whole movie?
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>>104569314
Yes, they've already been doing remakes which are technically more intensive.
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>>104561561
You got a point. That shit show doesn't look terrible after all these years. It's just a shit show.

Also thanks for the Anons mentioning the clothes in Incredibles.
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>>104557262
i thought the gameshow one was a movie
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>>104557230
>During the initial pitch to Nickelodeon, Oedekerk had highlighted the idea that using computer animation would allow the same models and assets to be reused between both a film and a TV show, an idea which Nick held strong faith in.[4] Davis further suggested that the feature film be created first, since the characters being modeled could be created at a higher quality than they would have with a TV budget.
Pretty clever desu.
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>>104569708
It really was.
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>>104561561
>>104561561
Nickelodeon also made Rango. That movie still looks way better than all modern CGI movies despite being 7 years old.
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>>104568748
Didn't they already do this before the release of Toy Story 3? I remember them doing a double feature of the first two films a few months before with part of the draw being revamped graphics.
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>>104569843
i think they just re-rendered the same assets
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>>104565824
I hate Jennifer Lee the most out og anybody here but I don't think she was involved with the trolls. The trolls were part of the film early in production. I can't accurately guess what all the hubbub with the trolls was about. Nobody likes to talk about them.

Well, there was that one time. It was during the Frozen Fandemonium panel at F23 2015.
https://youtu.be/VSsGFL_keoo

Go to 10:25 for Hans
>Host interrupted by cheers
18:57 for Trolls
>Nothing
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TDP is literally one of the best 3D I've ever seen compared to the budget.
Disney should -in my opinion- move to artistic styles closer to TDP insted of keep trying ugly 3D
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>>104569954
*Out of
*D23, not F23

Damn typos
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>>104569779
fucking genius
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>>104557615
This. Everyone wanted to one on Pocohantas because everyone was convinced it was going to be Oscar bait.
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>>104570563
It was Eisner's masterpiece, the zenith of his career.

Now it is rightfully mocked for the historical inaccuracies & shitty narrative. I mean, learning the entire English language from a gust of wind? We could have had a well-earned montage like we got in Tarzan.
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>>104570539
Boy genius
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>>104568714

it also worked for Zootopia
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>>104563329
"Do you want to build a snowman" is "Papa can you hear me" from Yentil.
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>>104570563
>>104570607

reminds me about MGM who got hungry for another Oscar after the award Piano Cat, then they made next cartoon, where Tom fucking dies.
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>>104570714
It worked really well. It's actually the second highest grossing animated movie based on an original script.
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>>104570953
I can't wait for sequel!
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>>104557230
>>104569708
Very clever
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>>104569954
Why would you hate the most creative person at WDAS? Is it because she is a women?
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>>104557892
Rango is a very dirty film compared to other CGI films, so the grit and grim preserves the texture and prevents it from feeling outdated like other CGI films that are very smooth and clean in comparison.
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>>104571013
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>>104571023

I like Book of Life for fantastic designs.
I think the visuals will hold up for a long time.
(Story and music, not so much.)
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>>104556603
Everyone uses the toyish style when it comes to 3D shows animation because it's the one that works best - at least, as far as what big-budget movies/shows have tried, anyway. I'd argue TF2 SFMs are the best non-toyish style we've EVER gotten, and even they're still highly cartoony.

>Gantz: O
...had great effects, but nooooot great animation (outside of fights, I mean). If it didn't try going for a mostly-realistic style, it could have done a lot more in terms of animations and art direction, while losing almost nothing.

I say 'almost' because part of the appeal was making it look mostly realistic.
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>>104569875
Yeah, and it was only so they could add the 3D effect into the films.
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>>104570789
Fixer-Upper is thematically a shittier version of Dig a Little Deeper from PatF.
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>>104556384

old render tech,..
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>>104556677
The only movies with that theme are Frozen and maybe Wreck-it Ralph 2.
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>>104572665
That's the only ones that OP has seen
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>>104557535
>not the Kingdom Dance sequence
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>>104556384
tangled and brave looked good imo, never cared for frozen's look though
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>>104572712
>not Raps feet sequence(s)
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>>104558111
Trips of truth
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>>104573027
I wish Walt never intervened with animation, we'd be better off without his "help". Animation is seen just for kids now because of him.
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>>104572552
The Princess & the Frog may have had a sub-par soundtrack, but this is true. The trolls are just horrible characters.
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>>104556384
it looked like shit when it came out
looked like default Maya cloth physics on the dresses
background characters hardly move
the characters that do move are stiff
Olaf was designed for 2D and looks like shit in 3D (personal opinion)
the only thing that holds up is the snow and ice effects, which is what Disney was advertising in the entire film
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>>104562995
big brain boy we have here
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>>104573458
>looks like maya
If that's true, why don't we have maya renders of Elsa and Anna?
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>>104573500
It was just my personal experience with cloth physics.
But there are SFM models somewhere on the internet.
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>>104562995
Those are some amazing manlets then.
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>>104556603
>Gantz: O
Looks like cutscenes from a PS2 game. No thanks.
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>>104561257
>>104561283
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Disney buys EA at some point.
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>>104557892
Christ the fucking texture on his shell. It's amazing.
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>>104570179
waifufag detected
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>>104557535
The power of object cloning and dozens of computers rendering.
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>>104574318
the lanterns were different shapes and textures
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>>104562898
That sucks eggs.
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>>104556758
>cartoonishly large trucks
Where do you think you are?
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>>104574692
4channel.
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>>104561746
It really doesn't though. I'm not sure why you'd say that.
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>>104575942
he wants to look smart
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>>104570179

I love the dragon prince; couldn't disagree more.
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>>104569791
>Rango was 7 years ago
Jesus christ where does the time go.
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>>104557392
Anna wants to take Elsa's clothes off
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>>104556384
Anna could roam that castle naked if she wanted
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>>104577056
Probably has. Didn't do shit.
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>>104557392
They both want to get each other naked
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>>104556677
>do whatever you want etc.
I hate to be that guy, but that's literal satanism. Disney has become a satanic organization.
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>>104573458
All the characters felt like they could have worked better in 2D. Especially compared to the movies before and after it.

Maybe if it were a little more stylized, it wouldn't have looked as shit, but from it coming off Wreck-it Ralph, and being one movie before the Hyperion Engine's debut, this is a pretty pathetic showing by what is supposed to be the world's best animation company.
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>>104557892
Because Industrial Light and Magic practices literal magic.
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>>104563064
>no no! THIS rotoscoping is creative though!
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>>104571023
This is really the secret. Your brain knows when something is too clean to be real skin/flesh, and obviously a perfect porcelain doll that starts to move and emote creeps it out.

But Disney can't do grime and dust because their entire shtick is muh wholesomeness, which is fine from the standpoint of making a good fun for the whole family movie but breaks down if applied to CGI.
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>>104556677
>do whatever you want because you're always right and anyone that tells you otherwise is a villian
I mean, isn't this also the theme of Mulan, A Bug's Life, etc
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>>104557222
It's fucking criminal that Treasure Planet isn't better liked. Also it should be in KH. They literally have space ships.
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I thought it looked shit years ago.
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>>104565627
>>104565663
>>104557262

Is Jimmy Neutron generally well liked? I liked it fine as a kid, but no one ever talked about it.
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>>104577928
Bug's Life was about fighting for the survival of your people, it isn't comparable to justifying absolute havoc just by being an emotionally sensitive thot.
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>>104577996
Didn't MC fuck up the harvest with this shitty invention prototype
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>>104573458
>olaf was designed for 2D
This. Olaf actually looks appealing in the concept art
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>>104576735
Rare case where animated movie got and actually deserved an award.
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>>104557046
>Not liking woody's ragdoll run
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>>104556384
It's not a matter of age, the movie just looks unfinished. Definitely the least visually appealing of all the movies. Characters are also mediocre and the story is pretty bad. If not for "Let it Go" the movie would have done much much worse.
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>>104577942
It's weird. I see it get a lot of love on normie sites like Imgur, but apparently it's still considered fairly obscure. I guess because it didn't get the mass attention Disney's other franchises get.
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>>104560803
>>104560840
Idiot.
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>>104578021
>>104578008

what ISN'T looking better in concept at?!
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>>104556384
Say what you want but the snow was delicious
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>>104559733
I guarantee Frozen would have made just as much money if it was 2D instead of 3D. The reason kids/girls liked it was because the main characters were attractive white girl princesses with fancy outfits that sang catchy songs. It's conceptually designed to pander to that demographic. Same with zootopia's success because kids love cute animals doing people things.
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>>104578454
I thought it was because furfags wanted to fuck the fox!
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>>104578529
Are you ready for the knot?
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>>104579862
Fuck THE fox. Not get fucked by him
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>>104556384
It looks like Miraculous Ladybug lmfao. Especially the background.
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>>104569791
Well ILM did the animation technically
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>>104556603
The only virtue in Gantz O was being the only Gantz adaptation that doesn't suck ass
The boob jiggle was both distracting and hilarious.
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>>104580458
Why not both?
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Cartoons isn't the place to look for interesting/stylized 3d. Vidya is
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>>104583584
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>>104583183
that's gay
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>>104583925
Not if the balls don't touch.
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>>104562995
If you can pull it off I don't see what the big deal is.
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>>104578304
I don't understand why this is, but I personally feel that 2D is a little more appealing because everything is outlined. 3D sacrifices the outlines for better textures and consistent details, but loses some of the charm from the malleability of 2D expressions (at least with deadlines to meet).
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>>104578361
I am not poor enough to eat snow.
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>>104574247
how is that important
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>>104556384
Reminder that Anna and Elsa aren’t twins yet disney used the same base model for the both of them because they’re cheap fucks.
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I wonder what Disney would do with an adaptation of The Shadow/Skyggen.
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>>104556384
>>104556616
>>104561239

This is why I'm disillusioned with 3D animation in general. It basically gives you the peak of tech at the time, but given a year or two later it looks worse since greater tech comes along.

2D art doesn't do because one can simply draw anything! The human eye isn't concerned with noting how real it looks and pays more attention to the content itself. So it doesn't "age" ever.
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>>104585404
So you lied to me!



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