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confess your sins, we've all had one at some point
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I've yet to find anything that can top Ramsay/Theon in the fucked up ship category.

>>3235251
Don't think that ship belongs here senpai.
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>>3235251
Oh for the love of...
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>>3235216
>had
>past tense

incest still multiplies how much I like a pairing.
Different thing, but pic related holds a special place though I don't know if it really qualifies as fucked up.
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>>3235304
>incest still multiplies how much I like a pairing
patrician
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Most of my ships have at least a little bit of unhealthiness in some way.
Actually I'm having a hard time determining which ones are "fucked up" or just a normal hate ship(do hate ships even qualify as fucked up or is it just the ones who have a really unhealthy dynamic like op?)
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Oh brother.
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For example does pic related count as a fucked up ship? Sure they hate and live to kill each other, but when you think of the actual dynamic it doesn't even feel that fucked.
In fanworks they are mostly depicted(and I agree to an extent) in a low trust give-and-take relationship that works decently on pre-canon, that gives them a way to vent and ease the loneliness but still allowing for good tension and sense of danger.
I could even argue that in the Souls universe having such a strong emotion or desire such as hate can prevent one from hollowing and from that perspective it can even be seen as a good thing, as some sort of coping mechanism to retain some semblance of humanity, even if so seemingly unhealthy at first glance.

It is very interesting to talk about these things, what qualifies as a fucked ship to you?
To me the appeal of a fucked ship is more in the relationship dynamic than if they have any characteristic that makes it "morally wrong".
For me for, example >>3235366 KaraIchi aside from the incest is actually a good relationship that I wouldn't consider fucked with other characters.
I think it should also be noted that, like most things, this is better measured as a spectrum of unhealthiness and not as black and white thing, this also helps preventing this turning into a "post every incest/shota/age gap ship" thread.
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greed x envy

Their dynamic is already pretty tense (in the I hate you and I want to make you suffer kind of way), add some sexual tension and you get kinky homunculi hate sex
and angst
so much angst...
(and they look great together)
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An oldie but a goodie. Kinda set my tastes for screwed up foeyay for life.
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>>3235477
too bad envy looks and sounds like a dyke
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>>3235473
go to hell
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>>3235603
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>>3235617
Why?
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>>3235746
YES
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>>3235366
mmm hmm good taste
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>>3235251
Well played anon, [spoiler]you piece of shit[/spoiler], well played.
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>>3235251
Who are these and why are people upset about this? It vaguely looks like Toshi and Goro, but not really
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>>3235972
>>3238150
I feel terrible in comparison.
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>>3235216
2doc is an okay ship I guess
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>>3238308
Keith and Shiro, from Voltron.
People are upset because their relationship has a lot of focus in the show, but Shiro was 20 and Keith like, between 11 et 14 when they met, so people (or rather trolls + a few tumblrinas) have been saying that should this be romantic it would be grooming/pedophilia/what have you. Also that since Shiro practically raised him it was practically incest, therefore, yeah, "fucked up".
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>>3238479
Aw, I kind of have a fetish for incest. I had a relationship with my older brother when I was a kid. But that was going too far if I'm being totally honest. it started when I was 8 and he was 17, was totally consensual, but obviously the law wouldn't see it that way if we'd been caught
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>>3238481
Too much info. Incest is only good in 2D.
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>>3235603
You can't be serious.
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>>3238482
Well, whatever, I enjoyed it, only regret is that my brother is a pedo, but the way I see it, if it hadn't been me, it might have been someone else that didn't like it, so in a way, I saved someone from having their life ruined.
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I'm glad nips have apparently no concept of problematicness within their fanbases so they can provide me with all the content for controversial ships I need.
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>>3238489
I'm glad I only interact with the nip community. I avoid the western (tumblr) fanbase like a plague. Nothing but nagging and callouts
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>>3238479
Shiro is 25, now 26 and Keith was 18 (been bumped up to 21) that's a five year difference, everyone's age range scrapped the space dad and Allura mom jokes as she was confirmed as a teenager. But practically raised him? Shiro didn't change Keith's diapers, he was present in his later years as a mentor because Keith's real family was absent. The brother remarks mean nothing to western gay shippers anymore as most m/m and f/f interactions have always used brother and sister titles to sidestep away from bonding interaction that could have homo undertones. I don't care for Voltron but the method of using actual serious topics to win ship wars is downright insulting, it was back when Avatar did it. Voltron won't get Klance or Sheith because Shiro and dead Adam was the gay rep ship everyone was waiting for. Shiro will end up with some random dude at the end at best.
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>>3238281
No. You must go further back for the true depravity.
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I've never seen anyone taking issue with this ship, I guess because it's not all that popular and Gundam just doesn't have this kind of fanbase, but yeah, Char was kind of bad to Garma.
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I’m not interested in a ship unless it’s some level of “fucked up.” Whether it be coercion, degradation, pedophilia, abuse, violence, molestation, rape, or general non-consent.
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>>3239414
Heh thought i was the only one
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>>3235473
>>3235617
I too ask why this ship is problematic and you want anon to be in hell.
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>>3239441
One of us, one of us
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>>3238481
>>3238487
... this got depressing
Have you told anyone about your brother anon? Could save someone in the future
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>>3239442
There's nothing really that makes it 'problematic' but it is indeed a fucked up ship.
Honestly, Johan with any one is fucked up, but that's what makes him so interesting.
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>>3239550
That's a position I can't find a way out of. If I ratted him out, I couldn't live with myself, but if he hurt someone, I couldn't live with myself. Best I've thought of is I told him if he's ever tempted to come over to my place immediately and calm down, but there's not really any guarantee that will work.
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>>3235689
I can top it.

>>3238489
Same. Damn the anti culture in the west is exhausting. I miss when the only drama was ship wars.
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>>3239656
that's rough buddy...
either way, I wish you all the best anon
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>>3235689
>>3239708
excellent tastes
honestly, I ship mob with everyone
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>>3238481
Your parents failed you
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>>3240028
NAYRT but if the parents didn't know, they aren't responsible for it. And it seems it wasn't an abusive relationship.
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>>3235216
>tfw ship two dead irl serial killers who never met each other
none of you can top this
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It's some kind of incest and one of them is an immortal omnicidal mass murderer but they're also the only two who can truly understand what each other is going through.
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>>3240194
>Oh Noct, you're such a tease!
Is it still problematic if it's obviously intentional? Besides, Lucis Caelums are a death cult running on human sacrifice; intergenerational incest is probably the least fucked up thing about them.
>yfw you remember that THAT event was known as "the rape scene" among the cast
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>>3240190
I won't try to top it, but I'm curious as to why you ship it.
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>>3240190
...but they are not even each others type.
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>>3235251
DOESN'T BELONG HERE
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probably my most degenerate pairing
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>>3235476
>tfw stared for a solid five seconds trying to work out who it was
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>3240190
that's not so bad. Not incest, not pedophilia, not abusive as it never happened, equally fucked up, AND they have the same hobbies.
Ted being straight is the only thing that comes in the way
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>>3240286
>>yfw you remember that THAT event was known as "the rape scene" among the cast

wait wut, someone fill me up
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>>3241149
in*
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>>3235671
Because our peaceful looking psychopath said that he thinks of Kenzo like a father, and while certainly Johan seems to have gone with Anna the same route He-Man took with She-Ra, remember that the lad also hates his mother's gut.
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>>3241149
Noctis' VA has mentioned that the ending scene on the throne (with the Lucii summoning) was called "the rape scene" by the cast/devs. They were aware of all the fucked up subtext there.
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>>3235689
Yamero
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Puting the clear pedo aspect aside - they're not even from the same century - Chase has intended to murder Jack on different occasions; he thinks poorly of Spicer and
is disgusted with his presence as much as the rest if not more. There is no reason why someone like Chase would be interested in someone like Jack.
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Iceland and Turkey. I thought it was a crack ship at first, then I remembered the Barbary raids.
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>>3240190
You ship Ted Bundy and Jude Law?
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>>3240190
C'mon anon, you can't leave us hanging like this. I want to know the appeal.

Also what's the ship even called?
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>>3235603
YAMERO
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>>3235477
For the love of god post moar
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:(
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>>3235216
There’s a happy end somewhere.
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>>3242603
I got you famalam
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>>3242639
more stuff at afgunst.tumblr.com/tagged/greedvy/
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>>3242640
and at rule34 of course
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>>3242641
for Greedvy fanfiction is mostly where its at
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>>3242642
unless there's any drawfags on here *hint hint*
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>>3242644
Envy a cute monster.
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>>3235476
>don’t recognize the characters
>reverse image search
>get Onision and Shane Dawson making out

Yeah I guess that’s a fucked up ship.
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>>3242997
The idea of anyone shipping Onision with anyone fills me with disgust and existential horror.
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>>3235216
Stridercest
KaraIchi
2doc

Being fucked up, emotionally abusive and possibly incestuous is almost a prerequisite for me shipping something. Also, Kojaku and Clear bad endings are by far the best parts of dmmd. I think Clear's bad end is my favorite.

>>3238281
>>3239414
I support you, anons.
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>>3235216
I don't think any of mine are particularly fucked up, but I feel bad for people who like this stuff in today's moralfag FICTION = REALITY fandom climate. Anyone who uses "problematic" unironically when talking about fiction needs to be gassed.
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maybe this?
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>>3242639
>>3242640
>>3242642
>>3242641
>>3242644

Oh my god, I didn’t know this was a thing, but I’m glad I do now! Thank you so much anons!
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>>3243062
Good taste anon. To add to those you mentioned I liked Ren's bad ending, although Clear's BE was also probably my favourite.
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>>3241354
>Noctis getting gangraped by the spirits of his ancestors

h-hot
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>>3243162
happy to help, famalam
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>>3235216
I love this manga, I hope Sangwoo is actually developing feeling for bum but I think he'll end but killing him . I think he loves him in his own fucked up way.
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>>3241354
My word.
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>>3243196
Hilarious because the one who finishes him off is his dad.
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>>3238481
>>3238487
>>3239656
Are you sure you liked it, Anon? or you're not just covering up how much it probably fucked you up. Also your brother should go off himself before he actually fucks another kid. As this anon said
>>3238482
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>>3243062
>based Stridercest
Hell yeah, together with Vantascest.

>fucked up, emotionally abusive and (possibly) incestuous as prerequisites
Are you me?

Though I prefer Noiz's or Virus' BEs.
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Finally, a place I can call home.
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I'm surprised nobody posted this yet
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or this
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Kind of this. It's almost suggested by the show in a way, the explicit statement that they're 'not two ships passing in the night' and so on, and the fact that they're the only people capable of understanding one another, as well as Makishima's final question of if Kogami will find a replacement for him. Yet, it's such a fucked up ship if you bother to think about it. Makishima did such terrible things, not so much to Kogami as to the people that he loves, that it'd just be unthinkable, despite the personal dynamic between the two. I was in Tokyo earlier this month, and I was pleasantly surprised while looking around a bl store that they didn't have a single Kogami Makishima doujin, like they were actually respecting the characters.
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don't know if off topic or not... But does anyone know of any good novels with these kind of ships?
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>>3244807
there's been plenty of doujins, the series just wasn't that popular among the right audience and it's been a long time since S1 aired so it's pretty dead now
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>>3243989
>Another Stridercest fan
Dude, have you read a fanfic called Family Never Ends? The same author also wrote a fic called People Don't Do That, and both are pretty fucked up. I've never read anything that make me feel so terrible inside for enjoying it. It's really difficult to get through, but so good.

My OTP in the fandom has always been DaveKat, but I started shipping it before it was canon and still considered to be a somewhat "problematic" ship compared to JohnDave and JohnKat due to the violence and mutual self-loathing. Vriskagram happened and suddenly tumblr made it the second most boring ship in the fandom, full of cuddles and feel-good gay acceptance messages. Dave's whole tirade on toxic masculinity only encouraged it. What's funny is that they treat DirkJake the same way despite the fact that is was called out in canon for being emotionally manipulative and dubiously consensual. But with Stridercest there's no pretense to the filthy, toxic porn.

It's become trendy to sterilize the flaws of some characters and ships and to silence ships that don't meet some vanilla standard of "healthy", idealistic harmony. The PC-police is missing the point that people identify with and relate to characters much more through their flaws than their virtues, and that stories that explore these flawed, dysfunctional relationships are not only more compelling, but also a cathartic, even therapeutic outlet for people who emotionally resonate with the characters. Abusive relationships can be depicted in a negative light, and Family Never Ends is a good example of that, but even when they are celebrated the fantasy does not equate to real life abuse and people who enjoy them are often using them as a coping method to process their own psychological dysfunction. Sugarcoating character flaws is much more disrespectful to the properties, and shaming people for liking ships you deem to be problematic is harmful behavior towards people you claim to be defending.
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I'm kinda crushing on GonxKillua right now which feels very wrong because they're young. I know Japan standards are different and they are depicted as being more mature in some ways but still.
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>>3245982
Killugon is the most wholesome thing I ship. There is no love more pure. I hope they make up someday.

But the porn makes me feel like a criminal. Just remember that they should be 14 by now with the amount of time that's passed in the manga. That makes it better, right?
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>>3245527
If you're okay with visual novels, BL games have a lot of fucked up shit in them.
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>>3245972
Damn, Family Never Ends is absolutely amazing. I fucking love that fic, together with People Don't Do That and Prodigy. Fuck, Prodigy is a punch to the gut, before the cutesy cheesy ending.

Well I... I always hailed the 'cest' flag-- be it with Vantascest, Stridercest, Amporacest, Captorcest... Even though my OTP for a darn long time was EriSol. I don't really dig fluff on Homestuck, for some reason, so I still have a hell of a time trying to find anything worth reading.

Well, as my current OTP is DirkHal, I have even more trouble....


I can see why the trend exists: people don't know how to deal with anything remotely controversial-- even when it leads to character growth. It doesn't appeal to me, the sickening tooth-rotting fluff without plot that's trending, so I mostly stay on underground pairings that are commonly agreed as abusive/unhealthy.
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>>3246002
I don't think I've read prodigy. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the rec.
>DirkHal
Based.
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>>3244303
Wait, do people ship rick and morty? Fuck
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>>3246002
>full of cuddles and feel-good gay acceptance messages
>the sickening tooth-rotting fluff without plot that's trending

glad I'm not the only one who hates these. There's always a trend where the fandom is already past the hype phase and just stays in the comfy phase. All the cool, action-packed fanart gets replaced with fluffy domestic AU of their OTPs. It's nice for a while but it gets sickeningly boring to see tons of fanart all in domestic setting, wearing their pink oversized sweater while being all snuggly together in a sofa. Even the smut gets all sweet and vanilla. At least with problematic ships, I noticed artists can still come up with freaky stuff from time to time.

>>3246068
where have you been?
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>>3245991
But I'm not sure if it's truly wholesome, like Killua has some clear mental dependencies on Gon and abuse history going on.
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>>3235603
I feel bad for being realy into their... scenes.
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>>3238487
Anon, don’t try to justify your own pain. Tell someone about it.
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>>3243461
>>3246106
I honestly did like it though. I was already masturbating anally before it ever started, though with much smaller things, and I didn't realize what I was doing was sexual. You two need to chill. I know he's a fucked up guy, and I know what he did and what he's attracted to is wrong, but it didn't harm me. Sometimes things just turn out that way.
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>>3245972
>Family Never Ends
Holy shit, it’s amazing!
Can you recommend anything else like this? (Fandom doesn’t make any difference, I guess)
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>>3246080
I-I don't think I like it.
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>>3246151
I've read other great fanfics before, but none that so darkly depicted a toxic, incestuous relationship. Like I said, People Don't Do That was written by the same author, so check that out. But she orphaned her AO3 account and made her tumblr private, so I don't know if she went on to write any more fanfiction in other fandoms. I think she got into overwatch after homestuck wrapped up. If you were at all involved with the old homestuck general threads on /co/ it was written by the tripfag known as ipgd.
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>>3239195
>Wanting to see Sora kiss someone that isn't yourself
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>>3245982
>>3245991
Crushing on them at around 11, collecting fanart until maybe 16 and stumbling upon it again at 20+ gave me the weirdest emotional cocktail of fond nostalgia and serious pedopanic.
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>>3242997
>>3243010
>>3240612
That's Kyoshi and Hanamiya from Kuroko no Basket.
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>>3247883
I feel you but with Kingdom Hearts and when I was younger, Loveless.

If they had grown with me they would have been older but that doesn't happen apparently so now I feel fucked up and gross.
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the poster above me x the poster below me
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Three characters, three ships, one sick portion of a fandom. As if sexually abusing minors and incest aren't enough, those sick fucks HAVE TO add necrophilia to the list. Although I get less sick with Miguel/Ernesto due my love for little top/big bottom and humiliating powerful guys.

On the more "normal" side we have Ernesto and Hector which supporters, fortunately, focus on their lives on the road.
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And not even in the fluffy way.
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what are some olde ships anons?
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They were my first ever OTP, and opened my eyes to twincest,
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>>3248910
Kek
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>>3238479
My personal headcannon is that Keith is the one who groomed Shiro and was a homewrecker.
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>>3244303
Rick is disgusted by intergenerational incest though.
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>>3246068
Nigga there's even a "city" where alternate universe Ricks and Mortys live in and there's even a club where Ricks can look at Mortys dance.
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All 3 of them
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It's Mud2D-lite, but I'm recently into it.
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Physical abuse. Kidnapping. Emotional manipulation. Vehicular assault resulting in traumatic brain injury. Twice. Psychological abuse. Codependency. Chloroform. Stockholm Syndrome. Substance abuse. Surgical malpractice and organ theft. You know, all the good stuff. It's a classic, really. A tale as old as time.
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>>3235603
what is this...?
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>>3249312
Very problematique manga
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>>3249446
This shit. It managed to make me even angrier than the fucking Eclipse.
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>>3248910
Off the top of my head... Alexander and Hephaestion if you want something almost vanilla, but still with some edge potential. Hadrian and Antinoius if you want something more problematic (and with the young fellow's mysterious suicide I guess it can qualify as fucked up). If you want to go maximum edgy - different Nazis with each other (there's an artist who basically made a name for herself by drawing Nazi yaoi).
Also, perhaps all historical ships might be seen as fucked up in some way, because some moralfags (or offended homophobic fanboys/girls) might say you're insulting people's memory and legacy by fantasizing about them.
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>>3235603
what the hell is that
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>Hank/Connor

I personally don't think it's fucked up, but it makes a lot of people super butthurt so I guess it belongs here.
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>>3246068
Oh, to be this innocent...
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>>3235216
I realized I mostly can't ship safe ones, that I tend to ship others find problematic.
>RusAme
>IchiKara
>BakuDeku
I guess I like the idea of the bottom overcoming the aggression of the top, to the point that the top starts to like the bottom? And the hatesex. And I never really liked the fluffy fics of those pairings. I do delve on other pairings that are more compatible, but I find myself gravitating towards the problem pairings first before the others. I don't know what does that say about me.
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>>3249252
how is this fucked up? because they're villains?
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>>3249550
I like how the antis keep pushing the father and son tag in every hankcon art they reblog
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>>3249550
And those people are fucking retarded and didn't pay attention to the game. It's literally a relationship made for healing and happiness.
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>>3249777
>is choking him
Anon, he’s not a very nice demon.
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>>3248197
Mah nigga
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>>3249454
Whats it about i dont mind spoilers it seems pretty old
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>>3249922
it's pretty vanila tb h
come back when you have incestous OTP to share us
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>>3248197
Can't wait for the renaissance of smut once the movie comes out.
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>>3250021
God, your right detective faggot, how could I forget my incest card. You’re right to assume I have no such OTP, thanks for patrolling.
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>>3250156
;)
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>>3248196
anon I agree those are horrifying ships but this is a thread for confessing about which ones you like/ship, not which ones gross you out, which would make for a pretty unpleasant thread of complaining
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>>3243296
Agreed. I think Sangwoo definitely feels something for Bum in his very twisted Sangwoo way, but these latest chapters have been weird and I'm not sure what's going on. I also think Bum's hiding some secrets of his own and isn't quite the perfect little victim here

I think the endgame is them murdering each other somehow
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>them murdering each other somehow
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just stumbled across this and remembered this thread
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>>3235251
>Purest ship in the entire series
>Fucked up ship
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>>3242608
Same bro, I also like Sladedick though which some people say is even worse.
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>>3252144
>sladedick
i like that too
we both have great taste
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>>3252158
Almost all of the (gay) Nightwing ships are based imo
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>>3242640
>afgunst
fitting name.
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>>3235415
>>3235457
Good taste
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>>3252474
This is a christian image board.
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Bakudeku
Batman x joker
Rusame
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incestuous, abusive, opposing morals, long-ass age gap, one's not even human...
yup, perfection.

perfection
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I don't personally see it as fucked up but apparently it's still enough to make quite a few people squawk, and it does fall on the wrong side of the Westermark effect.
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>>3252506
how it incestuous?
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>>3252510
They're half brothers in the 2003 version.
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>>3248910
One of the oldest ships in western history
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>>3252510
>>3252511
they're also technically uncle/nephew in the mangahood verse, as confirmed in one of the manga extras.
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I'll even admit that about 80% of my Danny Phantom folder is just pictures of these two.
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>>3252509
>implying tumblrtards count as people
The only reason why they whine is because it torpedoed the delusional rival pairings and muh canonfags couldn't take it.
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>>3252870
I dunno that's looks pretty vanilla homie
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i can't believe no one posted this
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>>3252913
Well what does it qualify to be a fucked up ship?
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>>3248910
What about this?
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>>3249554
KaraIchi>IchiKara
Ichi's bullying is just an attempt to push Kara to a snapping point because he wants to be punished and there's nothing hotter than an angry Kara.
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>>3253019
Patrician.
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>>3243296
nah bums gonna get fucked up
it's only a matter of time before sangwoo loses his shit
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>>3246099
Not to mention how manipulative and dismissive Gon often was towards Killua's emotions. From Yorkshin to the CA arc Gon kept excusing his self-destructive behavior by telling Killua that it was his job to be the reliable one, making Killua feel needed. Killua was so proud to be the one Gon trusted that he pushed himself to the breaking point and nearly died multiple times trying to keep him out of trouble. And as he lay bleeding out on the cold floor, realizing he was going to die, his only thought was how he couldn't have been more useful to Gon.

Then Gon has the fucking nerve to say Killua doesn't care? That Gon's pain, and the death of Gon's friend which he feels partially responsible for, means nothing to him? And then he runs off to get himself killed without even a spare thought to how that would make Killua feel. Killua was right to get the fuck out of there. They both need to do some soul searching and find out who they are without the other, and it's good Killua is spending time with someone he knows loves him unconditionally, even if it does still seem to be fueling his codependency issues. I just hope Togashi doesn't die before they have a chance at mending their relationship.

Now Ging and Pariston is another HxH ship that has some real potential. Mostly because of what a fucking psycho Pariston seems to be.
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>>3253005
When it gets problematic. Yours is a rare ship but still an acceptable one
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>>3253006
very fucked up

well chosen anon
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To be fair I don't technically ship it, but goddamn does it make for some good art.
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>>3253231
Sangwoo's mommy issues keep Bum alive, I'm pretty damn sure it's gonna end with them becoming a full on couple who murder people together.
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>nihilistic demigod that killed Neku for his own selfish reasons
>twice
>never explained himself
>constantly got under Neku's skin and made vague sexual jokes
>all the hatefucking that would ensue
Pretty tame in comparison to other ships people posted, but JoshNeku gets the cake for me. There's something about their dynamic that really gets me going. Especially if their aftergame angst isn't solved.
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I don't care how terrible it makes me look, it will always be canon for me.
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>>3243062
>stridercest
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>>3245982
Wholesum as fuck, my dude, no shame. They're basically teenagers at this point anyway.
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That said, at the same time all of this
>>3253237
is absolutely true
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>>3255221
I know it's been about fifteen years, but is anyone still around who read A Long Hard Road?

Best fanfic I've ever read, made the pairing canon for me, I literally have it printed out in book format.
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i still like it.
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>>3253019
I'm fine with either but you're right, to see an angry Kara always gets me
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>>3255223
My feelings about stridercest are:

Dirk/Dave = yessssssss
Bro/Alpha!Dave = of course
Dirk/Alpha!Dave = lol sure
Bro/Dave = Nigger what the fuck stop!

But I wouldn't really hold it against anyone who likes the last one. Grooming is just where I personally draw the line, but what's hot is what's hot.
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>>3235251
>>3249550
>anti Sheith and Hannor fags have gotten so retarded even media blogs are calling them out now
Ayy lmao.
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>>3235216
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>>3238150
>>3235972

welcome to the degenerate party fampai drinks are on me
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>>3238150
I prefer the Devil and King Dice, though it's not that fucked up of a ship.
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>Tfw you ship Oliver and Fukase but everyone else ships them as fluffboi moe blobs and you're alone with headcanons of Fukase being an abusive possessive freak in a one-sided relationship

Why even live
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...I'm going to hell...
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Small ship in a small fandom, still gets wank over supposedly being abusive
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>>3235216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4brJPb7NAI&t=0s
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>>3259098
It should get wank for being pants on head retarded. Without Hawke around, Fenris would probably disembowel him in like three seconds.
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>>3259104
fuuuuuuuuuuck yes
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>>3259098
>Dragon Age fandom
>small
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>>3259109
1. Hate sex is hot, fuck logic

2. Dragon Age’s political conflict is really dumb in game, everyone should be working together to end the Chantry theocracy instead of throwing dirt at each other. But nope, gotta have a “grey morality” for drama
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>>3249554
IchiKara and BakuDeku? you have the best taste anon
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Clamp is guilty of so many fucked up ships and so am I, but this one I remember the fondest for them being the best and the worst for each other at the same time.
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>>3257512
Stobbit..
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>>3259750
you as well, anon. a ship with such high tension is the best, screw the fluff
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Mind you I dislike the vanilla takes on Cartman x Kyle, I want it to be as twisted as in the show.
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>>3249777
The power dinamic
As evil underling and boss its barely passable, as a ship is blatantly abusive. And I know abuse gets thrown just about anytime nowadays, but BH is one twisted fucker and Flugg would be a dick sleave at best in that situation
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>>3252476
Bakudeku is fine if Bakugou gets wiped, otherwise its a horribly bullyfest
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I'm not into it but Tom & Jerry as a couple is definitely fucked up; they live to torture each other, to a point that even after all the years of abuse they still live together.
And the sickest thing is that it kinda makes sense, at least on Jerry's part, in one episode Jerry is angry that Tom spending time with a kitty instead of their routine and his guardian devil advising him to mess things up between Tom and his new lady.
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>>3243069
Truth. Though to be fair there really are fetish idiots that exist out there who can't tell the difference.
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>>3252509
Since Noctis is the only thing keeping Ignis happy and non-suicidal, doesn't it make it extra wholesome instead?
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>>3248910
faustophiles is actually my ship too and reading Faust I what my anime fried brain thought off the bat was Mephisto as a shota trap devil boy, makes the story 200% more fun to read.
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I know I can't be the only one
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>>3235269
I don't think it's possible to out wtf Ramsay/Theon this side of Baron Harkonnen or AM from I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream.
Killing Stalking gives it a go, tho.
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I don't even like brother/brother incest, but this one works so well for me.

>>3266363
You're not alone. I ship them as well.
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>>3259419
>2. Dragon Age’s political conflict is really dumb in game, everyone should be working together to end the Chantry theocracy instead of throwing dirt at each other. But nope, gotta have a “grey morality” for drama
Dumb, yeah, but realistic. We're just as stupid here on Earth, hate, greed and ignorance divide should-be allies constantly.

And check out Hate Fuck by Renoized.
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Is like they were made for each other
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>>3248910
How can you not see them as kindred souls?
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>>3266358
In a lot of the stage versions Mephisto is the 1600s version of super campy, so it isn't far off
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Angbang remains my favorite part of Tolkien fandom
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>>3235216
Satoru x Sensei
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Feels like half of my ships are somehow problematic
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Goetia did nothing wrong
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>>3269100
Ayyy. Excellent taste.

God, that Rauhrief doujin where Kakuzu makes Hidan swallow his cum and he keeps puking it back up. I'm not even into emet, but fuuuuck.
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>>3235216
Danzo is a yandere.
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>>3235269
>>3266754
If millennia of evil deeds not explicitly described can be counted, Sauron and Morgoth seem like they might have a chance at "most fucked up" particularly being fallen angels of a sort. Even just going by the millennia of war and subjugation they committed upon most of a world, together and separately, they arguably have it in the bag.
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>>3269194
only counts if they have a horrifyingly dysfunctional sex/romance life

ayyyliensXpedos (or anything else) otp
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>>3268628
The thing that makes this such a great ship is that it is so versatile. It doesn't matter what your fetish is.
Daddy kink? Sensei fetish? Age gaps? Are you a filthy shotacon or do you like older menX younger men? power play? Maybe some healing or corruption? Somnophilia? Stockholm syndrome? Rape? Bondage?
The time traveling bullshit possibilities are endless and Yashiro is a man that kills kids for fun so he has no limitation at all and is capable to do anything FOR Satoru and TO Satoru. Even if you aren't into twisted shit is possible for Satoru to try to heal Yashiro and save him.
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>I have too many, heck my first BL was Loveless so I'm screwed regardless.

Right now my screwed up ship is Venom/Eddie in both Comic and Movie forms. Somethin about obsessive partners that teeter constantly between horribly destructive and mutually beneficial that just makes me want more.

And...ink alien that speaks in your mind and uses your body for survival/nutrients.
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>>3271186
Loveless will never finish, will it?
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One of my firsts.

>>3272632
It's still going on, we have to believe that one day it will end.
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I read one of the SLUTTIEST yet well-written A/B/O fics of these two I've ever read in my life and ever since my dick's been cursed
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>brothers, one is 13 the other is 18
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>>3248197
cheers, brother
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>>3253237
> And as he lay bleeding out on the cold floor, realizing he was going to die, his only thought was how he couldn't have been more useful to Gon.
>Then Gon has the fucking nerve to say Killua doesn't care?

In which chapters does that happen exactly? I think I missed it
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Why am I shipping this!?
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>>3274189
share em
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>>3275185
oh shit a rare pair
but it's alright anon, I ship 'em too
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>>3275480
Yeah! Thanks anon. When I say that I'm shipping them, I got this "you damn pedo look" or "omg this is disgusting to ship them!!"
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>>3274203
Hot
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>>3275171
Chapter 241. After he faced off against the dart ants, before ikalgo saved him.
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>>3275793
>>3275171
The Gon saying he doesn't care comes in chapter 275. I can't post it because of image limit. Different sources translated it different ways. In the viz manga translation he says "this has nothing to do with you". In the crunchyroll translation of the anime he says "it means nothing to you". I think the sentiment is more correct in CR's translation, since it flows with his previous statement that Killua was acting calm, and it makes more sense with Killua's clearly upset reaction to it. Either way, Gon severely minimized the effect the his crusade against Pitou was having on his friend and communicated a clear message of wanting to cut him out.
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>>3235972
... guilty.
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>>3264958
>image title

Sooo, got 28 more I can take a gander at?
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>>3263463
You might like this one anon, Midoriya doesn't bet him up but does stands against Bakugo and lands a few punches. https://myreadingmanga.info/i%EF%BC%A0box-amano-itsuku-kanraku-destiny-boku-no-hero-academia-dj-eng/
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>>3235269
>ramsay
god what a shitty, poorly written character. getting season 5 flashbacks over here.
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>>3276316
Like almost everything else, he's much better in the books. He's still a loathsome sadist, but also inadequate and unwanted and he knows it. No "twenty good men" nonsense there.
>Roose: All you have I gave you. You would do well to remember that, bastard. As for this... Reek... if you have not ruined him beyond redemption, he may yet be of some use to us. Get the keys and remove those chains from him, before you make me rue the day I raped your mother



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