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What was that one strict rule your parents made? I still follow alot of rules even living on my own. But I no longer finished everything on my plate anymore, if I feel like im full I might throw the rest of the little parts away
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"Never feed the dog, he has dry food."
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My family never had sit down meals
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>>11735159
Grew up in a very strict household and my father was a tyrant when it came to table manners. But, now that I have aged I see so many disgusting eating habits that other people have.
But, the typical rules were
>No elbows on the table
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
>Dont chew with mouth open
>Dont gulp
>Dont talk with food in your mouth
>Dont click teeth on utensils
>Eat all your food or go to bed hungry
>Ask to be excused
>Napkin in lap
>Dont rotate your plate

To this day I want to choke people to death that smack their food or blow their nose at the table or in the kitchen.
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>>11735222
You guys into standing desk?
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Didn't really have strict rules beyond basic hygiene. Don't cough/sneeze while facing anyone's food, don't put your feet up on the table, etc. No one in the family gave a shit about etiquette at home meals as long as you weren't being gross.
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No talking when at the table. Dont rest your elbows on the table. Dont leave anything
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>>11735207
I wanted to feed my puppy real food from the butchers and let her inside more but my mother didn't allow it often. The only night I had her inside was two days before she died :(
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>>11735159
This is how I wipe my ass. One foot on the floor and one foot on the rim of the sink.
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>>11735230
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
This one seems odd to me for western table manners. Where did you grow up?
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>>11735159
She could put those feet directly in the food for all I care.
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>>11735230
Your dad has the 'tisms and has successfully passed it on to you
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>>11735230
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
This one is also new to me.
I accept rotating a plate upon receiving it, but not later in the meal
While I will say "excuse me please" I won't wait for an answer
Sneezing and blowing nose I find acceptable if done into a handkerchief or napkin whilst turning away from the table and saying excuse me. Then they'd have to pocket it, no sleeve tuck or worse. More acceptable would be to sneeze into a napkin, excuse themselves to a bathroom before return.
The rest of what you said I agree, I would add as I have seen;
>Do not pick food apart
>Do not pick out ingredients that are "yucky"
Those two I can barely contain my rage at
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The elbows on the table one.
>mfw I do it every time I eat with them now and they can't do FUCK about it
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>>11735464
Texas, but dad was from Louisiana.

>>11735508
Chewing your food with your mouth open while smacking is animal-tier. Not sure how this constitutes having 'tisms.

>>11735523
I honestly never understood the not rotating the plate thing.
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>no elbows on the table
>no feeding the dog
>not allowed to just finish early and get up and leave
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Don’t use your bread as a mop
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>>11735611
>not allowed to just finish early and get up and leave
I mean, you'd have to wait for everyone else to finish before dessert anyway
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>>11735692
Did your family do dessert after every meal?
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>no slav sqautting on the chair at meal time.
Fuck you mom.
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>>11735704
pretty much
just a simple custard with fruit normally
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>>11735159
Elbows. Table. Never.
Never reach for food.
Never show the bottom of your utensils.
Never bite food off your fork.
Never slurp.
Never bring your face to the food.
Never eat before everyone is here.
Never eat till everyone older than you has started eating.
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>>11735230
I actually agree with most of those. Not rotating the plate seems strange though
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What's wrong with having your elbows on the table? Never understood why that's rude.
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>>11735883
Ok Quasimodo
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>>11735883
t.
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>>11735796
>never show the bottom of your utensils
what
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>>11735471
Just on those fries for me, that's the only acceptable thing I see that needs cheese.
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>>11735604
>No elbows on the table
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
>Dont gulp
>Dont click teeth on utensils
>Napkin in lap
>Dont rotate your plate
All these are autism-tier. Seek help
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>>11735905
The base of your utensils should rain the palms of hand as opposed to sticking out like the back end of a pen.
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>>11735918
Aww, English must not be your first language. Were is past tense. That means it is speaking to things that occurred in the past. I understand you are still learning, but you will get there.
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>>11735962
Thanks haha. You too
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>>11735979
Checked
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>>11735883
It's comfortable. A flat surface directly at elbow height. Etiquette demands maximum discomfort at all times. Similarly, you may not rest your back against the back of your chair. Ideally, you would also squat above your seat, making no contact with the furniture whatsoever.
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>>11735159
My parents never had retarded rules while eating dinner, just eat and clear the plates. I never understood why my friends parents were such cunts during dinner.
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my korean parnt teach lotta table mannar
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My family stopped eating together at the dinner table once my parents got divorced.
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>>11736021
They were civilized. Yours were not, and neither are you. You belong in Africa. I'm not saying you're black. I know nothing about your ethnicity. But I do know that you belong in Africa.
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>>11735230
>>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
You got me with all but this one. I can see how it makes sense to not have your arm just laying around on the table or holding a knife ready, but it was never a rule for me growing up. I think I do it just because it seems weird to do anything else not because I was taught to.
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>>11735159
" don't play with your food " and "always say yes sir or no ma'am when responding to and adults" last one was beaten into me.
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>>11736286
Now that you're an adult you can beat your elderly parents if they don't say it to you
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>>11735230
>No elbows on the table
Yes
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
Autism
>Dont chew with mouth open
Fucking yes this agravates me to no fucking end
>Dont gulp
Autism
>Dont talk with food in your mouth
Yes
>Dont click teeth on utensils
Do people actually do this?
>Eat all your food or go to bed hungry
Autism but fair
>Ask to be excused
I'll ask, but wont wait for a response, especially if i gotta take a piss or something
>Napkin in lap
Eh, I can take or leave this. We used disposable napkins so I'd just grab one at the end of eating and throw it on the plate
>Dont rotate your plate
Your dad has weapons grade autism
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>>11735222
Trips of plebeyan lifestyle pretty fucking based
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>>11735230
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
Wtf? You keep your knife in your right hand at all times. You cut food, then put something in your mouth, repeat. You also use your knife to scoop things like puree onto your fork. Or are you one of those retards that first cuts all their food into bite-sized pieces and then puts down their knife and transfers their fork to their right hand? If you are, stop it. It's incredibly boorish.
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>>11735903
my parents always gave me shit for that. I thought all the other rules made sense but I never understood why it mattered how you hold your silverware.
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>>11735883
I think it's because you can pull a tablecloth if you slip.
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>>11736728
You almost had me
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>>11736742
you literally can't give a reason why it matters how you hold your fork
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>>11736810
I cud also say theres no point in spelin wurds corectly n say u cant proov me rong
Answer is same to both: because it looks retarded
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>>11736810
Control
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>>11735159
anyone else put the knife in one of the slots of the fork to cut uniform bites?
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>>11735222
I would sit on the floor either with my plate on the floor or balanced between my fat stomach and knees.
When we finally got a table I never used it. Either stood up and ate in the kitchen or at my computer
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>>11735230
>>No elbows on the table
>>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
>>Dont chew with mouth open
>>Dont gulp
>>Dont talk with food in your mouth
>>Dont click teeth on utensils
>>Eat all your food or go to bed hungry
>>Ask to be excused
>>Napkin in lap
>>Dont rotate your plate
You're an idiot. These are basic rules that the average person follows. Hmu when you have 3 different spoons forks and knives to eat from. Bitch
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>>11735883
How do you eat and put your elbows on the table at the same time?

>>11735840
Why would you rotate your plate while eating?
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>>11736019
>letting your utensils make contact with the food
>not levitating above chair and carpet
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>>11736868
>>>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
This one is utter retardation though, see >>11736657
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>>11736657
Not OP, but I believe the rationale is that it discourages you from inadvertently resting the elbow of your free hand on the table.
FWIW, I grew up in a poor, rural, Australian family and strangely OPs list (and many other rules in this tread) are probably a subset of my blue-collar fathers rules.
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My father was pretty hard with table manners but my parents divorced when I was about 5 years old and I went to live with my mother.
She used to set the table and try to make everyone sit down together but I'd just grab my food and go sit in front of the TV.
This went on for decades and now that that I'm nearly 40 I feel a bit bad sitting in front of the TV while my mother sits at the fully set table yearning for someone to dine with her.
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>>11735230
>Eat all your food or go to bed hungry
first of all, how would you go to bed hungry if only eating part of your food?
more importantly, what is with americans and this meme?
why not just eat until you are adequately full?
no wonder you guys are so fat
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>>11736950
>the elbow of your free hand
what free hand?
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>>11737033
portion sizes grew and the clean plate club culture stayed the same
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>>11736657
He's american, in case you haven't noticed, americans eat with the fork on their right hand and only with a fork. They use a knife to cut things at times, if they were socialised as children but I have witnessed adults that will literally stick their fork onto a piece of meat and just bite off chunks like a farm animal.

You can always spot the american by the way they eat at the table, I literally got made fun of for using a knife while eating in the united states of school shootings.
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>>11737072
americans are dumb BUT:
depends on the food desu, if its not something that requires a knife then ill eat with just fork in right hand, but if anything in the meal requires a knife then ill two hand it properly
for right hand dominate people, thats the pragmatic way to do it
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>>11735159
Do not eat with the left hand
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>>11737088
>fork in right hand
Fork belongs in left hand, use the knife to prevent food from skidding across your plate. And wtf are you eating with nothing but a fork anyway?
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>>11737072
faggot
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>>11737685
Pasta you tard
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We never really sat down and ate together since my parents were never really around when my sister and I were growing up. So there weren't really any dining rules or etiquette that we learned.
The two of us never really had any rules besides don't be too gross. Cared more about just eating what we could make with what we had.
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>>11735230
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
literally always have both hands on the table
nice list otherwise
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What is the significance of not changing the fork to the right hand when you don't need to cut something? I don't understand how people even notice this, much less why they'd care

Don't say "it's etiquette", I want to know WHY it is etiquette
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>>11735159
My parents had some strict rules about manners at the table. Typical middle class American shit. Decided pretty early on into my adulthood that I didn't give all that much of a fuck about class signaling, so abandoned most of that stuff on a day to day basis. When dining out or at a friend's place I am aware of this stuff. I adapt to the standards around me when necessary so as not to make a scene or stand out. But only as needed. With Euros the fork is upside down and in my left hand, while the knife stays in the right. With chopsticks I'm careful never to point them at another person or leave them stuck into the food. Elbows only rest on the table in the most casual of dining situations. Napkin is on my lap when eating. I can play along with whatever standards prevail in most situations I find myself in. But at home I give zero fucks.
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amerifat here
>left handed
>hold fork in left hand
>hold knife in rught hand
>stab food with fork
>cut piece off
>AT THE SAME TIME
this actually astonishes people /regularly/ when I go out to eat. apparently right-handed degenerate subhumans ONLY use their right hand for both fork and knife, and either use the knife as a splitting wedge to hack off pieces, or briefly use their left hand to steady the food so they can use the knife
disgustingly abhorrent
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>>11737775
Etiquette exist for comfort, you are unironically doing it correctly.
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>>11735230
But if I haven't eaten all my food it's because I'm not hungry.
Checkmate pops
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>be a chink
>family has super strict table manner
>but majority of our race eats like pigs in the public
>kids running around
>pee and shit in the public
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>>11737792
That's kind of what I figured. What I objected to was holding on to the class tells that were drilled into my parents as a specific display of the place and time they grew up in. I have no desire to preserve that shit. I just want to be able to eat in whatever situation I find myself without calling attention to myself or making those around me uncomfortable.
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>>11737777
Even for right handed people, the standard method of eating steaks and such is to hold the fork in the left hand and knife in the right, then use both simultaneously.

What kind of absolute bumblefucks are you around that don't know how to do that? Are my friends exceptionally adept at eating or are yours exceptionally stupid?
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>>11737753
It's a Euro thing, particularly a class tell. A lot of this shit is class tells. The uppers had more complicated ways of doing things than lowers, which allowed them to spot a lower posing as an upper in their presence. The days when this held up are mostly gone, but the legacy of it still hangs on in some situations. The same way in some work environments you might be judged by the shoes you wear, the car you drive or where you go for your summer vacation.
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>>11737834
American lower class cuts the meat with fork in left and knife in right, then puts knife down and transfers fork to right hand to actually eat it.
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>>11737882
I guess I never thought of it as a class thing, but now that I think about it that probably is true. Me and most of my friends are from middle/upper class backgrounds, so it makes sense that we would all do it the "fancy" way.

People are still dumb as fuck for not figuring out that the fork/left and knife/right method is the best.
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>>11737822
the cantonese from hong kong i know are all very polite but tourists that come here from mainland china are fucking animals
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made me learn how to formally set up the utensils and plates/bowls but I don't remember that shit anymore.

other than that it was just keep a napkin in your lap, don't change silverware back and forth between your hands, and no gross drinking or chewing sounds.

mmmm comfy family dinner memories
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>>11737896
Back in the day these class tells were important, because people were much more careful about only associating with members of their own social class. I grew up aware of this stuff because dad was pretty upper middle and mom was very much blue collar. Table manners were different when visiting each side of the family. Plus we had some farm relatives who had an even different set of manners at the table. I learned none of it was absolute pretty early on.
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>>11735883
No practical way of eating or picking up food while you rest you elbows on the table, so you are on a resting position, and if you are resting you should keep your arms under the table. Resting on top of the table is easy and logical, everyone can come up with it, so it is unrefined
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>>11737882
I literally lived in trailer parks and nobody ate like that.
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>>11737943
It's a lot more common than you'd think. Everyone on my mom's side of the family ate like that.
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>>11737943
I have never seen an American eat that way, but text-books on manners speak of such horrors happening in the land of the free. Maybe it was the boomer way to eat that is getting out of fashion, or yurop propaganda
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>>11737697
Oh wow, you named the one, single exception to the rule.
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>>11738045
Curry
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>>11738051
You don't use utensils to eat curry. You use your right hand and a piece of naan.
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>>11737983
It is the boomer way. Millenialls and zoomers are even worse: they don't have any standard manners at all, and will happily switch hands, hold utensils in the wrong hand, chew with their mouths open, eat at their desk or TV, and so on.
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>>11738069
>use your hand
Only subhumans do that you smelly pajeet, the rest of the civilised world uses a fork for the same reason they poo in the loo
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>>11738076
May I ask why you are eating curry without a knife then?
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>>11738090
Everything is bite sized in a curry
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>>11738096
And that excuses you how?
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>>11736879
To bring the food in the far side closer to you? Why the fuck wouldn't you?
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>>11738118
>Being this autistic about knives
Tell your mother she has my condolences
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>>11738072
True. Because their conceit is rejecting the class based standards of previous generations. That's kind of admirable in my view, but choosing to reject something doesn't make it magically disappear from culture. Good to be aware of that.
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>>11735230
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
>american table manners
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>>11738128
You're in a thread about table manners. Instead of innefectually chasing your food as it skids around your plate, you could be using your knife to assist your fork. Like a human being.
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>>11738309
>Instead of innefectually chasing your food as it skids around your plate
I said pasta and curry, I think you're the one struggling to use utensils like a human being if you need assistance
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>>11738309
>>11738314
Or you can both accept you're just holding on to ideas ingrained in you by the class mores of your upbringing and none of this shit actually manners outside of situations when your table manners could reflect badly on you. In those particular situations the fork in the left hand and the knife in the right is probably the safe bet.
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>>11738051
>curry
>fork
just use a spoon you dolt
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>>11738045
Risotto.
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>>11735230
>>Dont rotate your plate
>Dont

Dad should worked on spelling a little bit more.
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>>11738358
>Risotto.
spoon
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>>11735883
it's an archaic thing- it actually didnt start with rich assholes but from poorer families who had low-quality tables that would be supported by a central post in the center instead of four legs, if you leaned on it it might tip or wobble.
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>>11738386
I can't wait to show this to my parents to prove to them that they're stupid assholes
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>>11738390
Hardly. Many parents see it as their duty to drill their class norms into their children under the assumption that it's VERY unlikely their kids will end up in a different social class than the one they were raised in. The middle class holds on to this shit particularly hard because most middle class American families are well aware they've only been so for a couple generations. They take it pretty seriously. If your parents are middle class and you suddenly decide to start pointing out all the middle class bullshit you're not buying into anymore you can expect a pretty hostile reaction. They're very likely to see it as a betrayal.
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>>11738440
I make about four times what they did at my age (adjusted for inflation), so fuck em.
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>>11738457
Just letting you know from experience. I'm a self-employed creative, so the middle class norms I was raised with have almost nothing to do with my life. But at a family dinner a few years ago some topic came up and my reply was, "That only matters if you care about maintaining middle class norms. I'm not middle class, so I don't have to care about that." Both my mother and sister proceeded to pin my ears back for making such a claim. It's something people hold on to pretty tightly, especially in the suburbs.
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>>11735159
None. My parents are based. Always had sit down family dinners too. Mom is incredible cook that challenges herself and trys new stuff constantly to consistent success.
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>>11735230
Here's an idea.
Just eat the goddamn food and don't make a mess. You and your father need fucking therapy.
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>>11735230
>don't gulp
How exactly is the food going from your mouth to your stomach then?
>Dont click teeth on utensils
This only happens on accident
>Dont rotate your plate
actual autism
>No elbows on the table
and old rule, a shitty one at that
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
this is actually considered rude where I'm from

otherwise, based autist father
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>>11738484
If I could be transparent for a moment, I'm just talking shit on a Persian masking tape chatroom and wouldn't really do it. Would be kinda petty
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>>11735159
No elbows on the table. That was an instant smack.
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>>11735159
unbelievable body, give her that
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>>11738511
>Would be kinda petty
It would be showing them you choose not to value something they do. Like not going to college if you're from an educated family or not going to church if you're from a churchgoing family. Or working a blue collar job if you're from a white collar family. Parents operate under the illusion that their values are meaningful and must be passed down to their children. Children who refuse to go along with that are disappointments. If you choose to reject their bullshit you should at least have the courtesy not to rub their noses in it. I agree with you there.
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>>11738513
On top of this I remember I used to have this really bad habit of like bending towards the plate because my mom didn't like of your got food all over, especially the rice.
So just like the princess diaries I spent two weeks were every time I would go eat I'd be tied to the chair with a scarf until I could bring a fork/spoonful of rice to my mouth without dropping the contents and sitting up right.

Also
>Ask to be excused
>Don't blow your nose or pick at your teeth at the table
>If you don't eat dinner you're not just going to go have a snack later
>Cut your food if it's too big included salad that wasn't chopped well enough

We don't eat together as a family because we're all distant from each other even though we all live under the same roof. Out of 5 of us only 3 people stuck around for Thanksgiving sit down dinner. And now everyone eats in their rooms alone. So that's nice.
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>>11735230
>very strick
>tyrant
>examples are just your basic rules
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>>11737690
>the American encounters a civilized person
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my parents were strict especially at breakfast
we couldn't leave the table until we finished our martinis
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>>11738540
You sound like a white woman chasing black dick.
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>>11738677
Every time. Any encounter with superior class and taste must be countered with derision and accusations of being effete to make it less threatening.
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>>11738695
You wish.
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>>11737697
you use a spoon for pasta savage
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>>11738701
>to make it less threatening.
Why would being around someone with superior class or different taste be threatening at all?
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>>11738777
People of low status are constantly reinforcing the idea that nice things are either a lie or a waste of money because they can't afford them.
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>>11736950
And I think having both hands visible from across the table is based on hygiene and trust. A person with a hidden hand could be petting the dog, scratching his balls, or aiming a weapon under the table.
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>>11735159
no
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never was forced to eat the plate emty, but i always did it from myself.
at home i was allowed to play with the food on the plate. the television was most of the time on while eating. mostly ate alone because everyone came home at different times.

now i eat everything in my bed while on my laptop, i have a shelf i use as a table there.
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>>11738749
No you don't, ask any italian
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>>11735159
All meals at the dinner table eaten together as a family. No TV, toys at the table, etc. Euro table manners for silverware.

It bugged me sometimes as a kid if there was a TV show I wanted to see but it was dinnertime. Looking back as an adult, I'm fucking thankful. Most of my peers eat like goddamn slobs, have social anxiety eating in "nice" settings, etc.
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>>11735230
>>11735604
>>11738513
>smacking
>these anons doesn't know that smacking your food makes it taste better
Dead serious, smack your food and see.
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Looking back, my father used to be really autistic about some stuff at the table, but the one he gave me the most shit for was to not lift my glass in the direction of the jar when i wanted to pour myself something to drink. He was adamant about the necessity having the glass rest immobile on the table and moving only the jar towards it to pour. Never understood why he was so obsessed with this.
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Pretty basic white family shit:

Don't chew with your mouth open.
Don't hunch over the plate like a pig over it's trough. Sit back and eat your food slowly like a human.
Use your napkin.
Don't scrape your teeth on your utensils.
No books/games/distractions at the table.
Please and thank you.

I was usually the table place setter before meals, which meant plates, napkins, utensils and drinks for everyone.
I honestly I didn't mind. My mom was a good cook, so meal times were pleasant in my house.
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>>11739337
Were both of your parents this autistic, or was one of them just going along with the other's autism?
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>>11735230
God, dinners at your family must have been such a shit experience. We only ever got to eat together once a week because dad worked odd hours but the only rule was wash your hands and chew with your mouth closed. Dinner was usually a racous affair with everyone laughing their ass off or listening to dad's stories about work
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>>11739342
Is Autism just the new blanket insult we're using on 4chan now?

My mom was raised by her grandma who was the stereotypical white bored housewife who wears highheels in the kitchen type. This left over mental residue bled into our own home and was annoying back in the day, but today it's relaxed a lot - as my parents are older and really don't give a shit.

Now a days, I go to visit for a meal and we usually end up eating in the living room or something.
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>>11735230
>>No elbows on the table
>>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
>>Dont chew with mouth open
>>Dont gulp
>>Dont talk with food in your mouth
>>Dont click teeth on utensils
>>Eat all your food or go to bed hungry
>>Ask to be excused
>>Napkin in lap
>>Dont rotate your plate
All of these plus a few more for me.
>don't hold your utensils in a fist
>don't hold your utensils too close or too far from the blade
>wipe your mouth before drinking
>don't crumple your napkin
>don't spit out food
>the dishes must be placed with the meat towards you and the potatoes/rice on the far side
>don't bend towards your utensils, move them to your mouth
>sit up straight
There's more that I can't spontaneously think of. If we broke any of those rules our father would beat us, including in public.
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>>11735159
>anon will you smell my vag while i stack these dishes?
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>>11739404
>naked feet on the couch
That's a beating.
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My mom married this guy who's family was half jewish and half catholic. (However the fuck that worked out.) and the VERY jewish grandmother put me through her "ettiqute class".

Everything that pretty much else mentioned including napkin in lap, use a different utensil when getting butter or jams that other people have to also use so you don't get crumbs and shit into the jars. She was also pretty strict on signifying when you were done eating by putting your eating utensils flat onto the plate, like in my pic.

Ask to be excused. Rude not to offer to take dishes back to the kitchen. Rude not to ask if anybody wants/needs anything when and if you get up for something yourself.
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>>11735230
My dad just tells you the obvious thing to do every time before you actually get to do it, which turns your free will into an exercise of being told what to do.
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>>11739447
shes teaching you how to be civilized so people will like you
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>>11739447
Man that’s basic stuff. Do people really use their meat covered knives in the jelly jar?
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>>11739463
Yeah. I'd be lying if I said that her lessons didn't come in handy. I look at other people and get completely revolted by how swine-like they can seem while eating. I didn't like her, but I guess I still thank her.
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>>11739337
>the 1950's mythological TV ideal was real
I'd wager you think TV after "Leave it to Beaver" and "Andy Griffith" is white genocide, lol!
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>>11739549
I don't think anything friend. I just had a parent who grew up in that environment and clung to that mentality well into her own adulthood. It's interesting to compare times now to back then. Jesus, I think I even was dressed up for church like in my picture. It was sort of a major pain in the ass, living with those values.

That white christian conservative american dream did exist and I got to see a shadow of it- but as they say, you have to be asleep to believe the american dream.
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>>11739303
>and moving only the jar
>jar

wtf?
are you hillbillies or something?
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>>11736879
>How do you eat and put your elbows on the table at the same time?
By not being retarded?
>Why would you rotate your plate while eating?
Who cares, honestly?
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>>11735230
>>Dont rotate your plate
your dad is a grade-A fucking faggot.
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Never rotate your plate counter-clockwise.
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>>11740036

I wondered about this and then I figured he had a kid that would turn the plate to eat each serving of the different food

probably got annoying as fuck real fast and passive aggressive against an overbearing asshole Dad
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Had the basics and few more strict rules like no gulping and drinking only after the meal

But the best rule was that dinner was pacified time. NO fighting or bringing up problems, meal time is to be safe always. I had frequent fights with parents during teen age but even if we had shouted just 15 minutes ago, i knew i could trust that dinner table was safe.
Thanks mom and dad
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>>11740514
>drinking only after the meal
I never understood that. Like, fancy meals are all about pairings and wine is often paired with specific food. Why would you not drink durign a meal? Even more so if you're eating something a bit dry and need to chase it down.
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>>11740572
not the same person but i think its reffering mostly to water and being thirsty after a meal. the reason my parents told me not to drink right before or during a meal was so that i could eat more food and not feel bloated before the meal. when you are older and pair a meal with a fine wine its ok, but in moderation
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>>11739361
I feel a little bit nauseous imagining that scene. Absolutely disgusting.
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>>11740514
>muh safe space
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>>11740572
For the first point, wine is obviously not the same thing as water and juice. For the second point, drink more water throughout the day or get your salivation glands medically assessed. Something might be wrong with you.
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>>11735962
Also im gay if that matters
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>>11738677
Do you use the same, obviously smug, tone when you tell a friend about the black bull that fucked your wife, faggot?
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>>11735230
Fucking this. My parents and grandparents were the same way, and expected my brother and I to behave accordingly.
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>>11735159

1. Eat with your mouth closed
2. No elbows on the table
3. Knife in your right hand
4. Eat what your mother cooked, or I’ll slap the shit out’a you!
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>>11739404
>Is Autism just the new blanket insult we're using on 4chan now?
Hello 2008
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>>11738808
But that sentiment is correct this day and age, very few things are truly good. Yeezi shoes cost more than literal hand made leather shoes. Champion became a sought after brand, then we got a brand of clothing selling bricks for over a hundred dollars each. Most rich people today will buy cheaper things, drive reliable cars and ignore the status or class indicators. If anyone is obcessed with it are the poor who go out and get themselves in debt to buy a $1000 iphone
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>>11740514
>NO fighting or bringing up problems, meal time is to be safe always.

>you don’t speak to me like that
>I drive a dodge stratus people fear me
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>>11738808
>lol UR JUST JELOUS
t. Juicero owner
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>>11735159
The only rule we had at the table was if somebody asks you to pass something, don't you dare use it before giving it to them. So if dad asks for pepper, and you pick it up and put some on your food before giving it to him, mom would lose her shit on you.
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>>11737685
potatoes
basically everything that you can "cut" with a fork
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>Glass and Napkin are ON THE RIGHT of your plate
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>>11740764
>the reason my parents told me not to drink right before or during a meal was so that i could eat more food and not feel bloated
Another piece in the obesity-epidemic puzzle.
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>>11737072
>you can always spot the American by the way they eat at the table
Haha, joke's on you. I was taught to eat with my fork in my left hand and my knife in my right because it got passed down from my English grandmother. SO SUCK IT.
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>>11742124
>"cut" with a fork
savages
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>>11742140
and once you understand that "cut with a fork" mentality, you begin to understand a lot of American food. There's a reason why they advertise things as "fall off the bone" or "so tender it cuts like butter", because the fuckers don't use a knife.
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>>11742140
i'm just a lazy fuck from germany man
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>>11741267
>ruining your meal with fighting
>ruining others meal with fighting
>not facing them with full stomach
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>>11742150
>kankermof
>eet als een zwijn
typisch
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>>11742146
You can cut stuff with a spoon too
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No shitposting at the table.
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>>11739408
You have autism, seek help.
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>>11737943
I do and so does everyone in Commonwealth countries. The alternative is welding either your knife or your fork with the left hand, very dangerous.
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>>11735796
>never show bottom of utensils
But what if someone has tiny hands like i.e. toddlers and women?

>>11737685
>>11737777
>>11737834
>>11737882
>>11738072
>>11741504
>fork in left hand and knife on right hand
>what are people who only use utensils opposite of the majority
>inb4 they are genetic faults
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>>11735230
>No elbows on the table
My parents tried that when I was young. It's the comfiest way to eat, and I see nothing wrong with it.
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
Never even heard of this.
>Dont chew with mouth open
That shit is gross. Parents didn't even have to tell me that one.
>Dont gulp
Why the fuck not?
>Dont talk with food in your mouth
Fucking gross.
>Dont click teeth on utensils
Never seen anyone do that. I don't see what would be so bad about it though.
>Eat all your food or go to bed hungry
What if the kid ain't hungry. Shit. This is why everyone's fat nowadays.
>Ask to be excused
Too formal. Just say "I'll be back" or something.
>Napkin in lap
Are you dining with royalty or something?
>Dont rotate your plate
Never even heard of this, and I see nothing wrong with it.

Dinner should be a place of casual relaxation while eating good food with family and friends, whether it's at the table with some steak, or with some pizza on the couch. All of you uppity "manners" fags ITT are retarded. Being excessive with manners doesn't make you civilized; it makes you boring and weird to be around.
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>>11735230
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
Is gay as fuck. I don't think anyone could call you autistic for being annoyed by the rest of the list though.
>>11735840
>Not rotating the plate seems strange though
Imagine actually rotating your plate with food on it. You're either scraping it on the table or lifting it up and asking to spill shit.
>>11739072
It may make food taste better, but it's annoying as fuck to the people who have to hear that shit.
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For my parents it was usual pretty casual rules. They used to get mad that my older brother chewed with his mouth open very loudly, but they eventually gave up on him. The fucker is 27 and still does it to this day. An absolute lost cause. They were also a bit crazy about us eating what they cooked and if we didn’t like it we could go to bed with no food at all.
My grandma was a different story.
>no elbows on table
>must use place mat
>must go to bathroom before meal
>not allowed to excuse self from table to use restroom
>must finish entire meal
I remember sitting for literal hours because I was full, but she would actually make you sit there until everything was gone. I remember trying to sneak food into the trash.
>no kicking feet under table
>sit straight
The list goes on and on. She was pretty autistic about the food manners. Now that I think about it, she was actually a bit abusive. Still miss her though. I’m a bit fond of the memories and have good manners because of her basically raising me.
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>>11744628
> scraping it on the table

you don't use tablecloths?
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>>11735159
My parents weren't the models of decorum at the table. My dad slurped his spaghetti, and they both put their elbows on the table.
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No elbows on table, only eat with right hand
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>>11735159
no guns at the table
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>>11745014
What the fuck? I’m left handed and eat with my left hand. Do you think they would make an exception?
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even if you can leave paperwork and stuff at the dining table, and you have medications which you take at meals that aren't super photosensitive or anything and that you never do anything with except at mealtimes, you cannot leave your medications near your place at the table

instead, part of 'setting the table for a family meal' is getting out an individual dose of your medication and setting it at your place at the table
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>>11737882
Damn I do this but never thought it was a low class thing. It just feels more natural
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>>11742146
You're retarded, anything advertised as "Fall off the bone" is meant to be eaten with your hands not utensils, like ribs. Americans do use knives they just cut foods with a fork when they're really soft.
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>>11742021
You are correct. Shit like Supreme and Instagram friendly restaurants are for the punters. But the poor can't afford that shit and the rich think it's tacky. Nice things actually exist, but they're rarely products of hype. Those are trendy things and always come with the associated pricetag.
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>>11738362
That's grammar, not spelling retard
Further showing your retardation by the fact that you save thumbnails and reddit space
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RULES
Asking to be excused from the table was the big one, and chewing with your piehole shut.

RAGE
people who will swoosh water around in their mouth like mouthwash after a meal, at the table, to rinse their food out, then swallow it in a big gulp like it's normal to do this. Many times with other guests at the table.
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>>11746121
>people who will swoosh water around in their mouth like mouthwash after a meal, at the table, to rinse their food out, then swallow it in a big gulp like it's normal to do this. Many times with other guests at the table.
what the hell?
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When I am at family dinners with my girlfriend, her mother never asks anyone to pass her food, she just gets up and helps her self like it was a buffet
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>>11735230
>If you are not cutting something your free hand is in your lap
Your dad has the autism
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>>11737072
im left handed and cut as i eat haha bitch you will never know
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>>11746772
bruh i got bread stuck in my molars okay?
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>>11735159
Alright, here goes nothing:
>No elbows on the table
>Don't chew with the mouth open
>Don't talk while chewing
>Don't make any unnecessary noises (i.e. gulping, clashing the utensils, etc)
>Don't start eating until everyone is at the table
>Don't bite food off the fork
>No excessive talking
>Don't hold the silverware in a fist
>Finish off your food
>Utensil positionings
>Always be thankful that you're getting food
>Don't stab your food
>Always say "Bon appétit"
>No cellphones at the table
>Don't stink
>Wash your hands
>Don't get your hands on your mouth
And that's all I can remember on how to be a decent human being at the table by my parents.



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