Do you like taking pics with random people at cons?Also how do you ask for pics without looking like a perv?
>>10303809>"can i get a selfie with you?">need to get close for shitty camera>get to touch cosplay thots
>>10303814it also works if you pretend to be streaming, hell set up a fucking twitch and stream to no one. i have NEVER been treated as nice when they think theyre being watched.
>hoverhand>look like a beta>no hoverhand>look like a perv
>>10303816bruh this is so dirtyyyyyy
>>10303823I'm as nervous and self-conscious as it gets, but you have to be a real special type of fuck-up to actually come across as perverted just because you wanna take a picture with someone.On the real, just don't overthink it too much? I've never been called out for a hand on the shoulder or hips even, though you should obviously avoid smashing someone's costume. >>10303809Yeah, taking pictures is fun. It's a good icebreaker and I've got some nice conversations going off of it. Sometimes you get people that don't talk much or just want to bounce, and you just roll with it. I don't know how thirsty you have to be to come off as off-puttingly perverted though, even if you do wanna bang, lol.
>>10303823Damn that guy has a really nice smile.
>>10303809I love it when strangers come up and ask me for photos. Makes my day. >how to ask for a photo"Excuse me, can I get a photo of/with you?" Is all it takes for me.
>>10303837>I've never been called out for a hand on the shoulder or hips evenMany girls would find that creepy especially if they have bare skin thereThey may not have said anything but they felt it
>>10303814>>10303816you guys are creepy
>>10303809It’s surprising when people want to take pics with me instead of of me since it’s out of the norm, but I’m cool with it. Just asking doesn’t make anyone a creep, but I really wish people would let me direct them where to touch instead of just doing it (especially if my cosplays has fragile parts).
>>10304029It definitely looks posed
While the pic is staged, the fact is some guys DO put their head on girls boobs for pictures.
>>10303823I've been hover handed. I thought it was sweet of him to respect my space even if it was awkward.>>10303839Oh shit, he does. He's cute.
>>10303809Ask. Just ask. If you want to touch them then ask before you do that too. It’s not that hard.
>>10304072Pics or it didn't happen
>>10303809I remember that I rarelly had people toutching me while taking pics with me at con, I just remember that since I do mostly jojo cosplay people pose with me/ next to me. If the cosplayer where a costume from a serie with specific pose ( even idol stuff ) it could be a good way to have a cool pic without the akward toutching/ asking if it's ok
>>10304130>The biggest thing that I saw that really upset me was people almost taking advantage of people in costume. For example, there was a woman dressed up as Power Girl. If you aren’t familiar with the character she is basically in a white unitard with a red cape and blue gloves. She is also pretty well known for being a very busty character. This woman dressed as Power Girl fit the bill perfectly and was wearing a very good costume. I was taking a bit of a breather at this point and saw her walk by, I considered asking for a picture but she was talking to some guys she was with and I assumed they were making plans to do something. I let it go and kept up my Extended Rest. A short while later she returned sans companions. This time I did stop to ask her for a picture(sadly it was way blurry and I deleted it), and just as I was thanking her for her time this group of guys comes running up to her. I heard a loud “Dude, take my picture with this hot chick.” as he threw his arm around her waist and basically squished his face into the side of her boobs without a moment’s thought to asking for consent. The friend snapped the picture and then shouted “My turn!” I could see on her face that she was uncomfortable by many shades at least. Since I was still standing there I piped in with a “Hey fellas, chill out a bit its not a free show alright?” I of course was set on the other end of a withering look from Big Burly Dude Number 1 who was now behind the camera. Not to be outdone, I shot him my own withering look and a terse “Seriously, give her some space and next time ask her damn permission before just assuming you can run up and grope her for a picture.” Grabby McFingerson snorted and they walked off. Power Girl gave me a grateful smile and I smiled back and we parted ways.
How about not putting hands on people you don’t know personally when asking for a photo?Person being photographed can put their arm around you or pose in the way it makes them feel comfortable.
>>10303837>or hips evenhold on now, that's a little much
>>10303837Yeah, I definitely agree with these two, >>10303846 >>10304084. You wouldn't walk up to a random stranger on the street outside of a convention setting and touch them there. That's pretty intimate for strangers.
>dress up as a slutty character>a slutty character from anime,comics, or video games>two things KNOWN for forever alone weird men>omg this guy just hugged me!shocked. shocked I say.
If you don't know them, don't touch them. It's that simple. And even if you do, the most you're probably getting is around the shoulder.
>>10303809I just really like the facial expressions in this pic lmao
>>10304203>hugged meYou have a pretty loose definition of what an appropriate hug is
>>10304203You need to be properly socialized to compensate for your severe lack of manners or empathy.
>>10304274The head tilt made me giggle
>>10303809I make vlogs at cons and need them in the vlog or for content promotion. I don't know what the non cosplayers do with the dozens of selfies they tookPic is actually me
>>10304396That's a pretty tame story considering some other shit I've seen and heard from other women. Just this year, some chick's card got set on fire by an angry incel. It's really not even close to being out of the realm of possibility.
>>10304435Her car, along with six others
>>10304488More to the point, thank you. So I'm pretty inclined to believe that a dude saying a tame thing to some grabby jerks actually happened.
>>10303844this. Unless I'm obviously trying to get to a panel, I like it when people ask for my picture, it makes me feel like I did a good job. It's even better when they ask how I made everything! I've worn some really obscure costumes, and it's so satisfying when someone recognizes me.I usually dress princess-y, so I especially like kids who light up when they see a character they love. pic related, obscure Cagalli princess dress. Thank you one person for giving me faith and recognizing me.
I don't mind taking pics in cosplay with anyone, and I'm kinda okay I guess with an arm/hand on the shoulder, though it's weird. But if you did like >>10303837 and touch my hip, nu-uh. No. I will ask you to stop, that is, if I don't short circuit first and forget how to protest because I'm bad with confrontation.What's really awkward is once I asked someone for THEIR picture because they were dressed as my fave Stargate character, and he wanted ME to be in the picture I took. Put his arm around me. I still can't tell if he was trying to be inclusive or just like, was flirting. I just wanted a picture of him by himself...I should've said no again, but I was too chicken and took the pic with him.>>10304565Hard agreed, but holy shit, A+ costume choice anon! I miss Gundam Seed fandom.
>>10304160Shes too fat to be piwergirl
>yo can i get a selfie with you>put arm on shoulder >take pic>thank them and move onjust dont be creepy
Is charging people for photos ok?>polaroid with Vera $30>photo with Vera $15
>>10304773If other guests of the con can charge for photo ops then so can guest cosplayers. If you're not a guest and just tabling that's less cool. Polaroids are expensive so charging for them is fine.
>>10303809I sometimes ask for pictures of cosplayers I like, but haven't really thought of asking to be on the picture with them, unless it's more of a social picture of people I've hung out with than one of a random cosplayer. Not that It'd be practical to get pictures with someone, because I'm only one person and someone needs to hold the camera. But I have some pictures with randoms, from when they offered it and there was someone else to take the picture with them.It's not pervy to simply ask to take pictures of someone, most people probably like being asked. I assume it's okay to ask to be on a picture with someone too, but don't have any experience with it.Levels of touch I know no rules for, but I guess you can figure it out based on the situation. Sometimes it's okay to hold around them, other times you'll just stand side by side.>>10304274Even just asking about touching boobs is sexual harassment unless you know them really well. Because the clip is without sound, I don't know if she offered it, in which case it may be fine (however, that might be sexual harassment on her part, unless he had already made the situation sexual somehow). Touching is probably okay though.
>>10303809>Do you like taking pics with random people at cons?Absolutely! People are usually pretty nice, even if they just liked your cosplay and don't know the anime. The photos are often followed by compliments and/or chit chat about the anime/character I'm cosplaying.>Also how do you ask for pics without looking like a perv?... you just ask for a pic."Hey, nice cosplay! Can I take a picture with you? "Wtf are you doing that you think you could look like a perv just by saying this?>>10304156Same here. I also cosplay mostly JoJo stuff so they do poses instead of touching. I've jojoposed even when cosplaying characters from different anime.>>10304274Holy shit, this video is sooo rightit's okay to get touchy, but get consent first!
>>10304791>unless you know them really welluh it's still sexual harassment even if you do
>>10304396While there's a good chance any story online can be faked, if you've had friends or you yourself have ever cosplayed a skimpy female character, you will absolutely see differences in how people treat you. I've never seen any crazy non-consensual stuff yet, but my friend who cosplays Yoko has had people ask to pick her up and carry her multiple times, people who asked her to step on them, many people taking a picture then start asking for personal info (it's mostly just regular flirting but can be really offputting after they already have a picture of you), and a guy who roped her into a conversation for about 30 minutes about the anime characters he first ever jacked off to. And that was only the stuff I witnessed while I was around.
>>10304956Shut up, faggot. Nobody wants to touch you anyway
i dont bother asking for pics cause knowing how everything is now you will be considered a sexual predator or a pedophile
>>10304986Not everything, but if you don’t have the emotional intelligence to know what’s okay and what’s not then yeah, better to not interact at all.
>>10303809He should have brutally raped her there and then. Completely justified!
>>10304144Is that Anna Torv?She’s a con-slut now? I wonder if she’d accept a fiver to rim my anus?
>>10304147Dude, lay off the oestrogens, you’ve got a bad case of bitchtits!
>>10304160“ I could see on her face that she was uncomfortable”Phlayming phaggot detected!
>>10304956Technically it is, but you may have a relationship where that's considered okay. Acceptable sexual harassment, if you will.Technically, ANY romantic or sexual approach is sexual harassment, but we have to find some types of sexual harassment we consider to be okay unless we want the government to assign us romantic partners. And even then, you'd never be able to touch or maybe even talk to your romantic partner if we get rid of all sexual harassment. No one wants this, it's more practical to find some types of sexual harassment we consider to be okay.
>>10303809>Me on the left
>>10304635I hate when I ask a cosplayer if I can take a picture OF them and then they say, "Do you want a picture WITH me?"No, bitch, OF you. I know what I said. Why does this happen.
>>10305102>I hate when I ask a cosplayer if I can take a picture OF them and then they say, "Do you want a picture WITH me?"I always ask that and often they say "both".It usually goes like this:>"Hey, can I take a picture of you?">"Of course, do you want it to be just me or me and you?"They most common answer is "both" (and we take 2 sets of pictures), followed by taking a picture with them.
>>10305034Yeah the line is very blurry !However, according to the context, it's obvious that you need to ask (because this is not a fuck bar) and that it might be possible (because she dresses in a fantasy/sexy way).
>>10305102Because they think you are a shy pussy beta and are trying to be nice.
>>10304155fuck outta here with that bullshit. most if not all the time the girls/women in those skimpy outfits are the one initiating contact with the fans/guest.but always ask first (like 'may i' if you want to put your arm around their waist). 99 out of 100 they'll say yes or they are the ones that do it first.showerdress niceand shower and smell nice.don't rush up to them and grab them. never do that. (unless you're 'special' and have a condition).
>>10305180go back to /r9k/
>>10305187Self-victimizing slut detected.
>>10305180I may want attention but I dont want your grubby hands on me
>>10305180They're spoiled and mentally ill.
>>10303809If people ask for pictures with me, I just suggest poses that I'm comfortable with, and they can agree or disagree.
>>10304635>>10304185Time to never do something like that ever a-fucking-gain then. I'm glad I mentioned it because I never really put much thought into it before.
>>10305180I get attention form horny men when I wear a fucking turtleneck and sweatpants. If you're attractive, men will bother you no matter what. Because they're disgusting animals who can't control themselves.
>>10305410Damn right, baybee.
maybe I was born too early to get narcissistic selfie fixation, I think it's weird to want to be in photos with someone and would rather take cosplay photos with just the cosplayer
>>10305102I'm fine being asked to take pictures with someone that I've asked to take a picture of. I'm nearly always in cosplay at cons cons though so it's usually "I like your cosplay too, let's get some selfies together" or something along those lines.
>>10305431Gotta get a pic with your favorite character bro
>>10303816>i have NEVER been treated as nice when they think theyre being watchedHahahah this guy right here
>>10303809 i am coming from the mindset where i have rented girls like these while living in the US and Asia, i understand wanting to fuck them but taking a picture with them just because they are hot has always been an odd concept.it would make me feel like more of an ogre than i already am
>>10305354Hey, ya live and learn. You can still do it, just ask first. Some people don't see it as a big deal and others will. It just depends on their comfort level which is why ya gotta ask. Honestly, just accepting criticism and deciding to change your behavior separates you from the creeps.
>>10305180These kind of women are stupid spoiled whores with severe cognitive dissonance.>>10305181You don't dress like if you want people NOT to stare at your thothy folds.
>>10304956Breasts have no sexual purpose. Shut the fuck up.
>>10303809I like it when other people want to take pics with me.I dont like to ask other people for it, cause I dunno, they might be busy.
>>10304169because the whole point of taking a photo with a cosplay girl is for me to look cool on IG. if they're not open to some slight physical contact they should just say no to the photo. I'm not posting a pic of myself standing next to a girl with my hands in my pockets like a virgin.
>>10303809how many of these cosplayers are actual prostitutes/escorts/etc?
>>10305829I doubt many of them are actually prostitutes. There's going to be some overlap, but overall I think there's a higher number of cam girls and costhots with patreons or onlyfans.
>>10303809>Also how do you ask for pics without looking like a perv?I just ask them straight up, usually people are cool with it. For reference I am pretty fat and look like a potential school shooter, so they definitely aren’t accepting simply because my overwhelming charm. It’s just a picture not a date.
>>10305514Most body parts can serve a sexual purpose if you’re creative enough. Breasts you don’t even have to be that creative with.
>>10305545>>10303809Same, I always let other people take photos with me or hug me in photos. I don't find most other people's cosplay interesting enough to photograph.
I'm an Eurofag and I was confused when I visited con in US on holiday and whenever I asked for a photo the cosplayers thought I want to pose WITH them. I just wanted them to act in character for the camera while I take the photo. I guess it's something that Americans do a lot, it's rare here or in Japanese cosplay events (unless it's some kind of idol polaroid thing).
>>10305431It's the same how people pose in front of historical monuments when they travel to foreign countries. Or how American tourists try to pose with geishas in Kyoto or cosplayers in Shibuya/Ikebukuro. They think they're so important and they see these people as objects of their entertainment.
>>10306195It's not a joke. And how is that "false information"? Gosh, it sounds like you don't actually have a rebuttal and can only respond with emotional appeal.
>>10306199It's false information for so many reasons, but I'll give you the simplest one: women can want to dress up and enjoy being looked at without wanting to be touched without their consent.If my mocking you was pointless and only about emotional appeal, you realize what that says about your own post, right?
>>10304986Just ask for a picture, take it, say thanks(or tell them how great they look) leave. Been going to con for over ten years. Managed to stay off the creeper list. Keep it ace sexual and you’ll be fine.
>>10305410MGTOW benefits everyone. More guys do it, less harassment.
>>10305410>I get attention form horny men when I wear a fucking turtleneckgee, i wonder why
>>10306229Women can't control how sexually developed their bodies are and if you can't see the body of the opposite gender as anything more than its secondary sex characteristics then you're the disgusting animal that women already know people like you are.
hover handing is so funny. just hide your entire arm and hand behind the other persons' back if you don't think touching them is ok. don't wrap it around. just keep it behind!
>>10306233Lmao relax how long have you been stewing over this? Anyways if you can't understand why some guys might be attracted to you when you're wearing a turtleneck I really don't know what to tell you love.
>>10306241The issue isn't them finding anyone attractive. It's them using their finding anyone attractive as an excuse to harass or worse when we're just living our lives. Finding someone hot in a turtleneck or otherwise doesn't suddenly make them deserving of unwanted physical/verbal or overly creepy or otherwise unsettling nonphysical attention from males.
>>10306241so there's literally nothing a woman can wear in order to avoid creeps and harassment? yikes. says a lot about men.
>>10306237Imagine doing this and your hand is just dangling between their thighs in the pic.>>10306245Yeah some guys are creeps that's life but you have a really unhealthy attitude towards the opposite sex if you think casually intimating that you find someone attractive is problematic. I'm assuming you're just saying this and react normally irl.
>>10306252If someone's behavior is creepy or oversteps blundaries irl I will let them know in a stern and assertive way if I'm not afraid for my life (which sometimes I am with some creeps). Sometimes telling men that you are not comfortable with their behavior towards you gets you met with verbal assault or even physical violence. I'm lucky I'm in America and not some less safe country where women are at times actually beaten and raped for rejecting sexual advances from strangers (or sometimes even relatives) so I don't get the phsyical side a lot but some guys start to exhibit psychopathic levels of anger and entitlement from something as simple as "don't touch me in that way please, I don't know you".
>>10306256Yeah I'm with you on all of that. I'm just saying that there's some appropriate level of sexual attention that you can't be upset about receiving.
>>10306260As women we aren't able to tell what men are going to stop at what level of sexual attention we personally find appropriate versus their opinion of what is "appropriate". To some men yelling sexual comments is appropriate and to most women it is not. To some men touching a woman's ass because they think she is hot is appropriate and to probably 99% of women it is not.Better safe than sorry and be wary of yhe potential for any men directing excessive sexual attention towards us to be a predator or dangerous or just a creep. Especially in a world where more often than not we get blamed for the "attention" even if it comes in the form of nonconsensual behavior no matter how conservatively we dress or prudish we act.
>>10306205>i dress like a whore because i want male attention omg no don't give me attention 32 different arbitrary restrictions I've just placed. Omg didn't you know taking photos of me is rape?
>>10306252>but you have a really unhealthy attitude towards the opposite sex if you think casually intimating that you find someone attractive is problematic.the comment you responded to in the first place was op describing how she was being harassed by men regardless of what she chose to wear. That's not an ""unhealthy attitude".
>>10306265Nayrt but you're just being intellectually dishonest or intentionally obtuse. No one is going to let you say it's okay to touch people without consent. I'm sure you really want to justify your groping of any woman you deem scantily clad enough to deserve it but you're a creep and will always be one.
>>10306267>ugly guy: hi, how are you>OMG HELP ME! THIS HARASSMENT IS TOO MUCH!
>>10306286Now, now, anon. I know you aren't this stupid to think that's what the original post was claiming. Come on, try again. I believe in you!
>>10304396I mean there is L guy at Tx cons and it doesn’t sound too far off.
>>10305514Then why do we care about covering feminine nipples? Fucking FiveHead take there retard
>>10306306>Then why do we care about covering feminine nipples?>weYou mean facebook moderators? That’s who you want to side with?
>>10306300That's literally what goes on most of the time. Even if the guy isn't touching the cosplay slut at all they will still say he is "creepy" simply because he's not acting the way she wants. Some women believe that it's men's responsibility to make them feel comfortable at all times and failing to do so is a violation of their civil rights.
>>10306286>things that never happened
>>10304147Extreme, overt hover-hand is actually really funny & probably a solid ice-breaker. Not a bad move.
>>10303823Just grab the fucking shoulder and then let go after the picture you fucking spergs
I've had guys ask me to step on them. Nothing phases me at this point.
>>10306658Did you step on them?
>>10304160>>>10304130>>The biggest thing that I saw that really upset me was people almost taking advantage of people in costume. For example, there was a woman dressed up as Power Girl. If you aren’t familiar with the character she is basically in a white unitard with a red cape and blue gloves. She is also pretty well known for being a very busty character. This woman dressed as Power Girl fit the bill perfectly and was wearing a very good costume. I was taking a bit of a breather at this point and saw her walk by, I considered asking for a picture but she was talking to some guys she was with and I assumed they were making plans to do something. I let it go and kept up my Extended Rest. A short while later she returned sans companions. This time I did stop to ask her for a picture(sadly it was way blurry and I deleted it), and just as I was thanking her for her time this group of guys comes running up to her. I heard a loud “Dude, take my picture with this hot chick.” as he threw his arm around her waist and basically squished his face into the side of her boobs without a moment’s thought to asking for consent. The friend snapped the picture and then shouted “My turn!” I could see on her face that she was uncomfortable by many shades at least. Since I was still standing there I piped in with a “Hey fellas, chill out a bit its not a free show alright?” I of course was set on the other end of a withering look from Big Burly Dude Number 1 who was now behind the camera. Not to be outdone, I shot him my own withering look and a terse “Seriously, give her some space and next time ask her damn permission before just assuming you can run up and grope her for a picture.” Grabby McFingerson snorted and they walked off. Power Girl gave me a grateful smile and I smiled back and we parted ways.And then everyone clapped.
>>10306642>women won't date me and it has nothing to do with my personality they're just all whores>i can't touch people without their consent wow feminism is evil>being creepy around women makes them uncomfortable i guess men have no rights anymore>i'm a rational high quality male women are dumb if they disagree with me
>>10306659Nayrt but I'd probably be disgusted enough to want to until I realize they'd probably like it.
>>10306659Absolutely. If they have the balls to ask to be stepped on then I'll step on them. Although one of the dudes I did had a Mother take the picture with their 10-12 year old by them and that was the most awkward situation I've been put in. >>10306667You're not me fuck off
>>10306665You're still not grasping the concept that the entire point of dressing sexy is to get sexual attention. If you dress this way then act shocked that people are hitting on you then you're just fucking stupid.
>>10306269Its bait you idiot. Why do you think he was posting it again and again?
>>10306682I never said being hit on was shocking or not okay. Being hit on is fine as long as it's just verbal conversation and not legit repeated harassment after being told no or asked to stop or actual touching.It's the scarily large quantity of men who feel entitled to physically touching women for dressing sexually (in general but also in the context of this thread cosplay is about recreating a character usually and women may like a character for something besides their sex appeal) and equate grabbing women in sexual ways with simple flirting or being asked out, etc. that is a problem which has been present itt and irl for some people.
>>10306679>doesn't know what nayrt meansChill senpai I literally said I wasn't you.
an important reminder
>>10306689I don't. Used to anons saying "not that anon" I thought that was a slang way to say no. My bad.
>>10306694Nayrt just means not anon you responded to. Nta is common too.(Some people get bothered by people clarifying that they're not the same anon but situations like this are why I usually say so if I'm not the same anon just to make sure no one confuses my opinion as that of the original anon cause I don't want people to think I'm trying to larp as another person or something)
I'm starting to think a lot of these cospalyers are strippers irl.
Honestly, if you want to be safe then just ask for a picture OF a cosplayer rather than with them if you don't want to seem creepy. Then you're appreciating their costume and not just their looks. Personally I hate when strange guys put their hands on me (even shoulders) and politely ask them to take it off me. It just feels sleazy and gross. For friends or strangers who take the time to talk with me about my costume or the series I don't mind as much though.
>>10306729Yeah it's pretty easy to not seem creepy if you have genuine intentions and a lot of women's response or discomfort with strangers is a result of men's poorly thought out behavior or intuitive impressions of people's intentions based on how they act. If you just act normal and decent no one is going to be pissed or accuse you of rape or made super uncomfortable. Of course that kinda sucks for awkward people who aren't up to anything but may come off as having ulterior or unsavory motives by mistake but most people can tell when someone is just socially awkward vs a perv trying to touch you in a weird way.
>>10306729Out of curiosity, what position would you prefer someone be in while taking a picture with you if they're in the picture? I know a lot of people only take pictures because they want to look back on "I was here with this great costume" rather than just specifically "this is a great costume"I'm mostly curious what the alternatives are to awkward standing in place and a situational costume-based pose.
>>10306716Legit costhots specifically are online strippers already, no need to get naked irl when you can do it in the safety and comfort of your own home with minimal effort and you know thirsty dudes will pay your rent.
>>10306729>Then you're appreciating their costume and not just their looks.That's the thing. Nobody gives a shit about your costume. If you're putting your body on display, that's the interest. If you think people actually care about craftsmanship of how you put your slutty clothes together then you're living in a fantasy world. If you were really confident in your costume to impress people then you wouldn't feel the need to show off your body to force the attention out.If you're going to be a slut, own it and act like a slut. Don't delude yourself into thinking you're some kind of goddess.
>>10306746There are skimpily clad characters that still have interesting and difficult or fun to recreate costumes. The source media is what made it skimpy if it's an accurate cosplay, not the wearer. No one is a 'slut' just for what they wear. And telling girls they have to "own" their look by letting people touch or treat them a certain way because they're dressed as a character they like purely because you said so doesn't really make sense. Sure being shameful about sexuality is unnecessary and unhealthy but you can be scantily clad and still not sexually available or want physical or otherwise problematic types of attention from men or even other women.I'm a straight female and like big titty anime and vidya bitches for their costumes and aesthetics and the cool or cuteness of the character and not for sexual reasons, and other women probably feel similarly in some cases, especially in the context of nerd stuff like anime or games or comics where women are often hypersexualized so we may overlook or not care about the sexual aspect because that's just a part of female costume design in a lot of popular media.
>>10304172Sweet nyanners of yesteryear...
>>10306265If I dress like a whore, it's because I want good-looking males' attention. Not ugly incels like you.
>>10306741I was going to suggest just standing next to me and smiling like a normal person, if someone looks awkward doing that it's not my problem. But I do like when people want to mirror my pose or do something related to my character e.g. back to back or side by side fighting poses for action/fighting game characters, peace sign for anime girls etc.
>>10306787They want ATTRACTIVE men to ogle them.NOT UGLY GUYS like you.This is not a difficult concept. Stop being a creeper, uggo.
>>10306751Just don't waste your time replying to or trying to reason these people.
>>10306787I don't cosplay so I wouldn't know if that is a common motivator or not but I assume cosplay is about representing a character you love and I love lots of those sexy type characters for reasons beyond their sex appeal...many if not most teen and adult female characters in geeky media are buxom and wearing revealing costumes (even some that are designed my other women) so cosplaying a character that isn't a loli from something relatively popular or mainstream could mean you're cosplaying someone with a skimpy outfit a good chunk of the time.
>>10306789>They want ATTRACTIVE men to ogle them.Nah, you'd call them "creepers" too.>>10306795>I assume cosplay is about representing a character you loveNot since 2007.
>>10306801It isn't about looks for most women (assuming you're average or above which imo most people who aren't literally deformed are average looking or above) it's about behavior and some women will find certain behaviors undesirable in all men no matter how hot they may be.Women are less obsessed with looks alone over personality than men are in general anyway (but everyone is a little more shallow than they will admit to) and are more likely to have their attraction to someone ruined by them having unappealing personality or behavioral traits.
>>10306801>Nah, you'd call them "creepers" too.You can't even do this incel thing correctly. No, no one calls hot guys creepers.
>>10306808They do at cons. Cosplay sluts look for any reason to demean and shame men who give them attention, especially when its sexual in nature. You never hear a cos slut say "This cute guy was hitting on me. I was really into it!" It's always "Omg what a creeper I could feel his eyes on me from across the room I was literally raped THIS IS NOT OKAY."
>>10306809Nayrt but yeah of course if a guy was being creepy they will not enjoy it. And staring is at best rude in many places and at worst strange and creepy.No one does the "I was literally raped" shit over just looking let's be real and some people may exaggerate what level of touching is inappropriate or sexual harassment or something but I have doubts the vast majority of women behave that way irl.Maybe because it seems silly and unreasonable and tiresome (and I'm female), but it just doesn't make sense why anyone would be that ridiculous about things beyond a small minority (efamous costhots are technically a minority of the female cosplayers out there). Who knows though some people are mean and love drama at the expense of innocent people but it just doesn't sound realistic.
>>10306787>Most of the time they aren't even familiar with the characters they cosplay.This level of gatekeeping is hilarious.
as both the cosplayer who gets photos taken with and the person who asks to take photos of/with other cosplayers, it's really easiest (and makes for better photos) to just stand or even better, pose, with your hands to yourself (even if as a female it's unlikely i'd be seen as a creep for touching shoulders/waist). usually one hand with a peace sign or something and one hand on my leg/holding my bag/whatever. in the last few years though i never bother to take photos WITH them and would rather just take pics of them because i do it to remember and share the great craftsmanship i found with my friends. >>10305410every time i hear something like this, i get that it's an unpleasant and bad thing, but it makes me wonder inside if the reason i've never been catcalled or being creeped/hit on is because i am just that ugly. i know i should be happy i've never had to deal with that stuff, but it's just so weird hearing people say "every single woman has experienced this at all ages in any clothing" and i just never have been. whether i'm wearing lolita or the shorter skirts i used to wear with lots of leg and high socks, i've never dealt with it. feels weird man
>>10306828Yeah I thought that stereotype of guys thinking "fake nerd" girls are feigning their geeky interests for attention when a ton of "nerd" shit is so mainstream now anyway was a legit meme but some guys seem to actually believe that.Why in the hell would we pretend to like stuff for male attention when the males that are into the same stuff half the time are the greasy neckbeard gatekeepers who trash talk or don't trust women in those hobbies? Why would we want the mostly negative attention from those types of men if girls are faking it? Maybe some women just actually like stuff that is considered stereotypically male? How is the conspiracy of fake nerd girls less unrealistic than a girl just liking comics or video games or anime (especially when you keep in mind that many popular anime and video games in particular are created specifically for or with girls in mind or at least unisex)
>>10306831Who knows. I got catcalled the most at the very beginning of puberty around age 12 when my boobs weren't even that big by mostly old black and latin dudes and it was creepy and unsettling.And now despite being even nore sexually developed and not fat or anything I don't get the same creepy comments as much (which I appreciate). It may be where you live. Maybe you're around dudes who have been properly socialized and understand that that behavior is not usually well received.
>>10306837i moved to north america (BC, canada, specifically) where i kind of anticipated that kind of thing happening but it never really did. i just read about how easy and quickly young kids are creeped on by older dudes yesterday, and thinking back on it i guess i was just a really ugly and insufferable edgy kid so that might have turned off pedos even when i spent my childhood online. or that i really wanted to be "one of the bros" so i pretended to be an adult male. but once i became more comfortable with my femininity still nothing really changed in that respect. taking this back to cgl stuff though, even when i'm dressed in somewhat/moderately skimpy cosplay (jolyne kujo, kagamine rin) i've never had to deal with it even then. which again, feels very weird man since it seems cosplayers get that kind of attention even more than in normal life. a-am i just that uggo?
>>10306845Not at all I'm sure you look fine. I think some people exaggerate how shitty the average guy is the same way some men exaggerate how all women are and we sometimes have skewed perspectives or expectations based on that when most people irl are far more chill.
>>10306860thanks anon, that's pretty reassuring to hear. i was always hoping that was the case but every time i see another claim that many, if not all women have to deal with it at all ages/clothing it throws me off all over again.
>tfw look like and have the body type of a 12 year old>tfw cosplaying in something cute for the first time soon instead of wearing a cosplay thats all one suit that you cant see me inside ofI'm so fucking irrationally scared, I've been hit on at work by creeps and I'm wearing a shirt and plain pants there. If someone is creepy to me I'll probably cry. How do I not freeze up if it happens? I have a habit of just fawning when people scare me or make me feel uncomfortable or unsafe, it's automatic.
>>10306888Be my gf and I'll protect u
>>10306834Especially with cosplayers, many of whom spend dozens of hours and hundreds of dollars on a single cosplay.
>>10306909Put the coochie in the bag. Don't make me do something CRAZY
>>10306746>Nobody gives a shit about your costume.>at a cosplay convention>for people dressed engaging in COStume PLAYYour logic really flew the cuckoo's nest with this one, lad
>>10306746> If you were really confident in your costume to impress people then you wouldn't feel the need to show off your bodyNot all cosplay is thotsplay though. A vast majority of it isn't and the original poster wasn't implying that their costume was scantily clad either, you inserted that bias into their post.
>>10306787>Most of the time they aren't even familiar with the characters they cosplay.Source: Straight from your uptight asshole
>>10306787>You want men to oggle you but you also want them behind an invisible glass wall.Honestly, I don't agree with a single word you said but this sentence stuck out to me. Even if this imaginary world you've created where women are walking attention and sex-seeking mongrels, why would that give any man the right to touch her? If she is showing off, it would theoretically be to attract a pool of potential sex partners that she can choose from. In no part of this scenario would that make a man touching her without her consent reasonable.All of your replies reek of how you think you have any entitlement over anyone because you got a boner.
>>10306801>2007That's a very specific year for the entire population of cosplayers to suddenly and collectively abandon their interests in favor of thotting. I mean, obviously cons are just walking orgies as of 2007, right? It's not like anyone actually wants to show off their craft or love for a character.
>>10306868nyart, but you're not alone in that feeling of not wanting to be catcalled but somehow seeing it as validation of your attractiveness. The girls I hung out with were blonde, blue-eyed, more than conventionally attractive, and busty. I was always protecting them from negative attention and never surprised when they received it positively while I had neither experience. I agree with the other anon that it has nothing to do with your attractiveness and everything to do with several outside factors. Realistically, there are some experiences you've probably had that you didn't recognize as catcalling at the time and have since been long lost to memory. And maybe you haven't, but it's not like you can count all of the stares you get or comments people have made behind your back if you weren't aware of them. Don't let that jealousy bug try to convince you that you want that attention. It will never make you feel beautiful or wanted.
>>10306888You can practice responses in your head so that you have something to reach for in times of stress or just walk away. Sometimes no response is a good response. You can try to have a calming technique handy so that you can bring yourself out of that freeze and regain control of the wheel if need be.
>>10305514Anon, this isn't the lgbt board.
>>10307061Breasts are sexually appealing but their purpose is feeding babies. They are in part sexually appealing because of their relationship to childcare. Much of what we find sexy in either gender is related to evolutionary benefits.
>>10307069Boobs are the way they are to resemble asseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HagcHqOiaVY
>>10306985>That's a very specific yearfacebook, iphone
I think this is where "treat others the way you want to be treated" starts to fall apart. People who have never received a compliment let alone a sexual comment in their life will have a different interpretation of what counts as "creepy".
>>10307261You wouldn't dress like a whore if you weren't seeking out sexual compliments.
>>10307272what does "dressing like a whore" mean?gosh, some of you sound like you wear burkas.
>>10307283They're men saying this. They don't wear burkas and probably love seeing nakes kr "slutty" women but because they can't get any they complain about the whores they really wish they could fuck.
>>10307272I mean it the other way around, if complimented one of these dudes you would make their year or even their life. They've literally never had anyone perceive them as a sexual being before, and strongly desire it.
>>10307284The problem isn't being a slut. It's wanting the attention of a slut but still acting like a scared rabbit around men and feeling that you're entitled to tell men how to act around you.
>>10307287People are generally entitled to not be touched without their consent, specifically sexually. Wanting attention from and wanting to be touched by a stranger are two different things. Why can't incels seem to understand that attention exists in forms that don't involve nonconsensual touching? Do they think female bodies are braille and they need to fucking physically feel them up to appreciate the way they look or something?
>>10307294Unfortunately women's sense of entitlement doesn't stop at just wanting to not be touched. They also want to tell men what to say and how to say it. Hence the pejorative "creeper", a reference to a man who doesn't act socially the way they demand.
>>10307298I think being creepy or a creeper is subjective obviously but there are some behaviors women will be made uncomfortable by and as much as you have the right to say what you'd like if it makes them uncomfortable they have the right to call you a creeper or not want to be around you. It goes both ways. Say what you want or dress how you want and accept that people may say things to or about you as a result but you can also respond as you please or choose not to associate with them. Don't touch anyone without asking or repeatedly bother them if they ask you not to and if they try to accuse you of certain behavior and you're being normal and polite then people should be able to see that they are exaggerating and you have nothing to worry about and can't get into trouble (women accusing guys of stuff and almost getting away with it are isolated cases of clearly psychologically unwell people being shitty and manipulative and examples of men being too forward or sexually harassing women are similarly behaviors of not normal people, but most people of both genders are not evil like that)
>>10307300>people should be able to see that they are exaggerating and you have nothing to worry about and can't get into troubleTell that to Vic Mignogna.
>>10307308A known pedo? Great argument.
>>10307308It baffles me that people defend Vic as though he isn’t the posterboy for creepers. I thought everyone in the cosplay community knew of Vic’s reputation. Are his whiteknights newfags or just not a part of the con community?
>>10307342>Are his whiteknights newfags or just not a part of the con community?Both and while we are at it above the whiteknights lie the loyal knights of his round table who are mostly female who made the group the Risembool Rangers
Vic literally dindu nuffinName one(1) of his "victims"
>>10306888Practice combat sports, and carry a knife/gun. The weapon is to overcome any actual threat, since youre fucking tiny, but the combat sports will help develop a mentality that is more resistant to fear. If this sounds macho manly bs it kinda is, but it works.
>>10304421OH cool! I went to animenyc but getting in cosplay was so difficult
>>10307287because god forbid people ask to not be touched in the ass/chest without permission, right?
>>10304153Every few months I see a guy that unironically dresses like this except he has a superman sweatband rather than batman gloves, I think he's cool
>>10304435It's not the story but the fact it was told by an insufferable cunt called Andrew Dobson, he may even have seen it happen but he did not speak up or get a smile back, he's scum.
>>10307287>feeling that you're entitled to tell men how to act around youSexual harassment and assault is illegal, it's not just "something women don't like"
>>10306249Fuck you you stupid cunt, don't say "says a lot about men" it's not all men, sorry for the harsh language, but I've seen to many fucks like you. Most men are decent humans, and btw, if you look very attractive, and/or dress in a sexy cosplay expect to get attention from men, I disagree with running up and grabbing a girls tits, but you need to realize that if you dress in lets say a sexy Mileena cosplay, men are gonna be sexualy atracted to you, you just might have a man ask for a photo and hug you or some other shit.
>>10308295Calm down dude. Nayrt but a lot of people in multiple of these threads (this one, the boob/bra thread, etc.) Have agreed that it isn't everyone and that it's just about being polite and asking. That person and many other women have just been responding to extreme incel level bullshit trolling like "well if casual sex is okay sex means bothing and I can rape someone no nig deal" or "if you wear a sexy cosplay you should expect to be touched sexually" as if men can't control themselves just because someone is essentially in the equivalent of a bikini (or covering more skin a lot of the time, and people on beaches don't suddenly get the right to fondle strangers because bikinis happen to be revealing)No one thinks just getting attention from men is bad all the time. It's just that the way people itt have been going about defending physical touching without consent or sexual assault or actual rape and waving it off because of how people are dressed but then women still being told even if you're covered men will want you is just frustrating and contradictory and enough for anyone to get annoyed.Guys can look but if you ogle and stare it's kinda weird. Staring in general is impolite in many places. If you touch someone without consent without a REALLY good reason to that is also just wrong.No ome here has really been upset about being asked for photos and many of us have repeated the issue is not the attention but consent before touching and asking for hugs or pics like in your examples are all fine for most if not all women as long as you accept whatever their answer is.
>>10308298Alright, I just didn't like how she generalized it, I've seen others generalize it, not just here, but on other places of the internet, and it just got my blood boiling.
>>10308303boohoo poor you.anyways more lets talk even more about men harassing women at cons
>>10308295>NOTALLMEN!!!!calm yourself, incel. we get it, you're one of the "nice guys"
>>10308306>>10308307>>10308309>Guy asks for picture>Guys asks if he can enter your proximity>Guys asks if he can touch you on your shoulder>Guy asks if he can let goIs this better? The problem according to the author of this book (>>10308298), is:> No ome here has really been upset about being asked for photos and many of us have repeated the issue is not the attention but consent before touching and asking for hugs or pics like in your examples are all fine for most if not all women as long as you accept whatever their answer is.If you want me to be honest, this seems rather excessive. Not all woman are the same either, and id be willing to bet some of the less mature ladies here would call someone a creep if they asked for a pic and said “can I touch you”.Also, what’s with the toxic replies haha jeez
>>10308445Obviously asking "can I touch you, can I let go" is not a normal way to ask for a hug or photo."Can we take a photo?" Or "Can I hug you/Would you be okay with a hug"? Is normal and fine. Asking in certain ways will obviously come of strange if you ask the wrong way and that can weird people out.I know that's tough since a lot of anime and gaming fans are often socially inept or have trouble with what's okay (sometimes between both genders, remember when glomping was a thing? Girls probably did it more and it was fucking insufferable behavior).The world isn't black or white and there isn't one answer but just asking normally before a hug or photo and accepting a no for an answer if they don't want it isn't crazy. Are there places in the world where just touching people or taking images of them without their desire to is okay or normal or not considered rude? It's just about being polite and following pretty normal social conventions. For both genders. If girls respond rudely when asked about things nicely then they're also kinda wrong and douchey.
>>10306751>hypersexualizedWhat does that even mean. Most of the time a character's just wearing a short skirt or something.
>>10307733>Never improve, stay weak and scared of anyone bigger or stronger than you>The idea of physical growth being tied to more confidence only applies to men, women aren't allowed to grow through confrontation and trainingYou are a bad person and a coward
>>10308550When I say hypersexualized I mean big titty big ass looking girls for superheroes and anime girls and the like. Basically just leaning into short skirts and tight or revealing clothing more than is necessary to really convey a character. I don't find it offensive as a female but can see how it is quite different than media targeted at a female audience (just compare Usagi's skirt length and proportions of shoujo clorhes and bodies in general to women in shounen or action manga, there is a clear intentional sexing up of teenage and adult female characters that is not neccesarily bad but it is just a thing common in nerdy media that has always been lercieved as male dominant). I am a girl and think they look cool and the outfits mark them as more of an important character or can be fun and expressive. But a lot of Anita Sarkeesian types are super anal about trying to put women in hijabs for games because they can't stand the thought of a guy finding his comic or game or anime characters hot and they find the sexualization annoying or worse, "pRoBlEmAtIc". It is a phenomenon that exists and I don't mind but guys can't say female cosplayers are sluts for wearing revealing outfits if they're just recreating an already revealing outfit often designed by men to appeal to men anyway.
>>10304144Disgusting behavior by Vincent desu
>>10308562A young woman wearing hotpants or a miniskirt isn't unusually sexual. That kind of thing is worn all the time in casual contexts. Even in non-standard contexts clothing like that is a sexy tease at most. I was thinking you'd describe something more extreme than that to justify the "hyper" in there. >guys can't say female cosplayers are sluts for wearing revealing outfits if they're just recreating an already revealing outfitThat should go without saying.
>>10308596It should go without saying but if you see some of the garbage half trolling half serious stuff in the thread about cosplaying a revealing outfit making you a slut who can't get mad about guys touching you or doing upskirts or following you around with a camera pointed at your ass you'll see for some kf these people it really needs to be said.Scrotes on 4chan aren't accurate representations of every dude at a com but even a handful of people around who think that way will then prey on or potentially harm and outright physically violate people irl if they think it's okay and are cocky enough to do it.
>>10308599It's pretty unfortunate to say the least. There's always a tiny subgroup that will taint something for everyone else.
>>10308562>guys can't say female cosplayers are sluts for wearing revealing outfits if they're just recreating an already revealing outfit often designed by men to appeal to men anyway.I wouldn't call them sluts but I do think many girls choose scantily clad characters to cosplay because they want to dress scantily.I don't think all those 2B and Bowsette cosplayers were purely concerned with the characters personality.
>>10308604Well yeah there are some people who do want to wear the clothes because they like the way it looks and are confident and enjoy dressing that way. They may just enjoy revealing clothing and cosplay may be a convenient outlet to wear them in a way that aligns with their interests (assuming people going to the effort of a cosplay are at least casual fans of source material, everyone has played a mario game for example so Bowsette as a fun related meme to what was the new game was really cool to see)But again that doesn't make them a slut (if you even want to say being a slut is bad or wrong) and even if they were a "slut" that is no excuse for some people's weird assumption that having given sexual or other consent to a lot of people in the past suddenly means they automatically have consent to touch them. I know everyone isn't that way but it just takes a couple to be like that and then get handsy and then be a bad reflection on all the normal dudes out there which I would hate. I have to defend guys with my interests all the time to my normie friends who assume they are all incel creeps which is just not true so those loud or noticable minorities in a community really have an impact on outside perception.
>>10308604>many girls choose scantily clad characters to cosplay because they want to dress scantily.And there is literally nothing wrong with that. What are you arguing?
>>10308303If you have a single braincell left to use in that dusty echochamber resting on your shoulders, you would be well aware that not all men fall into the category she was talking about. Your rage does nothing to help innocent men but does everything to defend men who do obscene shit like this because all you do is bitch at women who have a right to complain about this behavior.
>>10308445>Also, what’s with the toxic replies haha jeez>uwu i cant hwandle all of this tocwicity!!Says the guy who flipped off the handle because some woman on the internet said men without specifying for baby that she wasn't referring to all men.
>>10308445>id be willing to bet some of the less mature ladies here would call someone a creep if they asked for a pic and said “can I touch you”.And? That's their problem for overreacting, why do you give a shit? There have been plenty of horror stories on here for people to realize what's been blown out of proportion and what's not. And even if they don't, the wrong opinion of one group of strangers isn't going to end your life. Get over it.
>>10308988Plus "can I touch you" can easily sound really fucking creepy if it's the first or only thing you say to someone
>>10309005Fair point. Not the best choice of wording.
>>10309005note that people don't mean to ask it that way. See >>10304274 as a better example.
>>10309019I mean this is not always the response you'll get but it's a pretty funny and cute way to illustrate consent just for laughs and all.
>>10303856and the woman wearing less than the average bikini for attention isn't?dress up stupid, get stupid prizes
ITT women prove they aren't human and do not have empathy
>>10304169how about not dressing up like a stripper and then getting offended when people are aroused beyond the point of rational thought?
>>10309005being dressed like a whore is pretty fucking creepy if it's the first thing someone sees of you
>>10308606stop lying to yourself and others. you want to show off, but you don't want the reality of showing off, then you blame men for being aroused when you show off. kill yourself thot. stop lyingstop fucking lying
>>10308596>A young woman wearing hotpants or a miniskirt isn't unusually sexualstop lying to yourself and others. it is extremely sexual. being heterosexual maybe you literally can't see it. but every single man can. and you are lying to them and gaslighting them about their sexuality. you are weaponizing their sexuality for your own gain. kill yourself.
>>10308562>guys can't say female cosplayers are sluts for wearing revealing outfits if they're just recreating an already revealing outfit often designed by men to appeal to men anyway.why not? nobody forced you to wear it. you knew it was sexually appealing and you chose yo wear it. why does the design being done by someone else absolve you of responsibility for the signals you send? why does it absolve you of responsibility for the sexual assault you are commiting on other peoples eyes? and then you use your priviliged gynocentric status to gaslight them about it on top.women have no empathy.
>>10305034>ANY romantic or sexual approach is sexual harassmentfuck off. you don't belong here,
>>10308865NAYRT but the point she's making is that costhottery isn't about attracting men but rather feeling confident and showing off in general, not for any specific group and not for sexual reasons
>>10306269>No one is going to let you say it's okay to touch people without consent.people touch each other all the time. it's normal. nobody asks. the only reason you suddenly turn into a turbo feminist consent obsessed "all sex is rape" when it comes to cosplay is because you're self conscious of how slutty your outfit is. admit it. stop lying to yourself and others.
>>10309381>this inherently sexual act isn't about sex but about feeling good about being looked at sexuallystop lying to yourself and others.
imagine a male peacock dancing for a crowd of female peacocks. it then tells you it's not for attracting mates but for feeling good about itself, then it gets mad at all the female peacocks for approaching him sexually.
>>10306860this thread shows it's no exaggeration. you literally all are acting like that RIGHT NOW.
>>10309387Humans are not primitive animals with limited cognitive function, your example is invalid and belongs in the trash.
>>10306828>>10306834it's because so many people have seen it happen in real life over and over. why wouldn't they see the pattern? if you think you're not a fake geek girl you are probably deluding yourself.you are gaslighting their personal experiences and invading their spaces.
>>10309395sexual attraction is involuntary and subconsciousyou belong in the trash whore
>>10307300>but you can also respond as you pleasecan you really? be realistic with yourself. most cons are extremely weighted in cosplay thots favor by design, they are run by SJW's. even if we disregard all that, society is gynocentric, you will be looked down on for any response that is not in line with gynocentrism.the reality is that as with any relationship, the woman has all the power and the man all the responsibility.
>>10306264you are completely deluded. you literally see sexual predators in everything. chances are you've never seen a sexual predator outside of your imagination.most women are just so scared of men for no reason, then you project it onto them and gaslight them about it.stop lying to yourself and others.
>>10306604the only reason they feel uncomfortable at all is because they know in their hearts their dress is inappropriate
we know women these days are less attracted to men than men are to women, this is why you are so deluded.put yourself in their shoes. whatever situation you might have experienced or heard about that you think is "inappropriate" or "creepy"imagine it like this, you are the creeper, the cosplayer is the most attractive man you can possibly think of wearing the sexiest clothes a man could wear, maybe you are also socially awkward and not that good looking yourself. imagine the situation like that and if it suddenly becomes appropriate, hang yourself immediately.
>>10303809god i wish that were me
>>10304146me & my gf
>>10309373>>10309374>>10309378>>10309384>>10309392>>10309396>>10309404I don't even cosplay or wear revealing clothes in my everyday life. The most exciting thing I wear is lolita and it's the most modest non-sexual thing ever. You assholes think I have to like wearing half naked cosplay to see that touching people sexually without asking is fucking weird? Even if a woman was naked on the street in a place where it was legal to be naked she doesn't deserve to be groped or raped or touched without consent.God you all sound like you literally came from an incel site (and half of these posts are clearly samefag with all the "stop lying" repeatedly. Disagreeing with your "big brain high IQ" incel logic doesn't mean we are lying).Also:>aroused beyond the point of rational thoughtWow this literally sounds like the shit brutal rapists say who blame women for being outside at night for the fact they chose to rape them. Also sounds like something only a teenage boy would say and you have to be 18 to post here kiddo.I have even defended men and said multiple times it isn't all men and some people respond to shit differently and some women overreact and people just vary because not everyone is every place is the same.If you think revealing clothes is an excuse to touch a woman sexually I'd love to see you apply that logic to a fucking beach or water park or other normal place with some revealing outfits. Are you going to lose control and rape all the 12 year old girls in tankinis because they showed an inch of skin around their belly buttons? It isn't women's fault you're literally the creeps they're concerned about which is obvious from you trying so hard to defend your right to have sexy happy fun time with whatever girl you think deserves it for "teasing" you.I haven't had sex but I assume it really isn't so life changing to justify your obsession with it. Most men aren't creeps which >>10309406makes creeps like you easy to spot.
>>10309434you are not capable of empathy thot
>>10309376I get the feeling that I'm replying to b8, but no it isn't and no I'm not.
>>10309413If what becomes appropriate? No one ever said oggling or looking is inappropriate. Just kinda weird and will cause people discomfort if they notice. Staring even in non sexual contexts is something even children are taught not to do. I'm pretty fucking socially awkward and stare sometimes not at people but off into space and often stop myself so as not to bother people or seem like a weirdo.Regardless of the situation or gender touching in that way is not appropriate? No one ever said it was. For most women being physically the peak of sexiness for a man still won't cause them to do more than look or stare which probably IS a bit creepy from the perspective of any person. No one would ever say it's okay to touch a guy without consent either. The issues of men dealing with that are often buried or minimized and men and women speak out about it more now because of the unfair double standard.And let's get real here costhots are not the sexiest women alive. Incels just think any woman that's showing some skin, white/asian/racially ambiguous, and not deformed is a sexy goddess half the time.
>>10309437>be me>a virgin>reasonable and defending most men>still aware a small minority of the male population is full of actual predators and acknowledge this>don't even go outside with my ankes showing these days because I'm a lolita anyway>incel: if she breathe she a thot
>>10309437I think not being able to empathize with or justify the actions of men who genuinely believe their brains and bodies are just extensions of their penises and they have no choice but to grope someone cause they saw a little booty cheek is probably a good thing?
>>10309434always like this with you fucking retards. at what point did I defend rape, or groping (no, being touched isn't groping)you literally are overreacting right now, resorting to basic bitch standard extreme feminist rethoric. oh they're just incels honey, because being sexually rejected your whole life means it's okay to bully people, but only if they're male, women are entitled to good men you see.I clearly struck a fucking nerve with you, have some fucking empathy and some fucking self awareness. you literally never have been so aroused you did something because you couldn't think straight? that shit happens all the time.cosplay thots dress in ways that are arousing, men react to it. involuntarily I might add. being aroused is always something imposed on you from outside. you are invading their brains against their will. and then you use your gynocentric privilige to gaslight them for it.and yes, the beach is no different. some thot costumes are literally just recolored swimwear.
>>10309442>I think not being able to empathize with men is probably a good thing?the true colours show. kys
>lolitas think their clothes aren't sexualAwwww how cute
>>10309439yeah just don't look at something which is purposefully designed to grab your attention, you're a fucking creepy incel if you do.you're clearly fucking cringing just typing this out only because you can't find a loophole to justify criminalizing looking. I guarantee you if you could you would be doing it.
>>10309443Sorry if I put things the wrong way or responded to the wrong person. I'm definitely not a fan of extreme third wave feminist stuff but I don't think that you can say touching someone in their no no square areas is not essentially groping or otherwise extremely inappropriate touching.I haven't been sexually rejected my whole life. Quite the opposite, I've had to deal with men attempting to force themselves on me (not just catcalling but legitimate attempted rape as a child that would not have been stopped if not for my older sibling being there to help me) and less intense but still frustrating and bothersome experiences with men who think me wanting to get to know them as a person means they deserve sex from me. I'm a virgin by choice because I have a hard time trusting people as a resultof all that bullshit (call me a volcel if you want).No one struck any nerves. I've been one of the females in the thread saying "not all men" the whole time and being relatively nice but it's easy to be tired of defending a side that is actively makomg themselves look worse with some of the male comments in this thread.I genuinely have never been so aroused I did something because I couldn't think straight. Ever. Period. I get guys having those moments where they think they like a girl and then it turns out they were just horny as a teenager, sure. But I highly doubt the majority of adult men and women frequently are so turned on by things around them that they cannot control their conscious, purposeful actions. That's a sign of someone who isn't fully mentally developed or is trying to make excuses for their behavior. It's fine to make mistakes and admit you did something dumb or wrong but don't blame your little buddy in your pants for your conscious decisions. If being aroused causes you to seriously black out and lose control then yeah that's sad to hear and I feel dor you and you should see a doctor to help with that but that it probably rare and unlikely.
>>10309449No I really wouldn't. Why do you assume that anything rational or fair that holds women to an equal standard pf behavior as men is a lie?You're not creepy for looking here and there. STARING vs glancing or whatever is quite different. Maybe women (or just me) don't get as aroused as men do by basic visual information. Especially since people who see these cosplays have been exposed to tons of arousing content via the source material and probably have watched porn I can't see how seeing the equivalent of a binkini irl causes you to lose control of your behavior.
>>10309445So you think all men can only behave how their penises tell them to behave and have no free will and can do nothing beyond what their dick wants?I guess I have a higher opinion of most men than you do cause I see them as humans who are just as capable of rational thought and self control and treating people with respect as any other person. Even the ones who aren't handsome or are socially awkward. We all have the same potential to be good and kind to each other.
>>10309450>I haven't been sexually rejected my whole life.But 80% of men have. ESPECIALLY within the nerd community which you are leeching off of. It's probably closer to 90%. Respect that experience if you want any of them to care about your shitty little "rape" thing which given the track record of women claiming that probably was just another overreaction on your part.>frustrating and bothersome experiences with men who think me wanting to get to know them as a person means they deserve sex from me.Yeah people wanting to have relationships is just creepy entitlement. Fuck em. Slay queen.>I genuinely have never been so aroused I did something because I couldn't think straight.stop lying to yourself and others>If being aroused causes you to seriously black out and lose control then yeah that's sad to hear and I feel dor you and you should see a doctor to help with that but that it probably rare and unlikely.we're talking about wanting to get closer to a hot girl simply because she's hot here. you're condemning men as mentally ill rapists because of something natural and innocent that they by the way experience involuntarily because of your actions.>I'm definitely not a fan of extreme third wave feminist stuffthen why are you acting like one?> I've been one of the females in the thread saying "not all men"I have a feeling those men have to tread on extremely fragile eggshells to be around you and are never able to share their actual thoughts and feelings with you. be thankful they put in that level of effort to please you but oh I guess they're just creeps too.
>>10309437The lack of self awareness is fascinating. Scrotes are the most illogical beings on the planet. No wonder they always have to use retarded animal analogies to defend their implusive and selfish behaviour, because they are literally a different species from humans.>>10309392>>10309397Also>if you disagree with me you are a whore.I hope the male suicide rates increases even more.
>>10309461You can't get all upset about women here painting every man as a rapist when all the men posting here have no problem affirming their opionion and sex rape and sexual harrassment as an ok thing.You complain about having to walk over eggshells with women when thats bullshit, women have to do it with men because taking a grasp of air literally means you are a wothless whore who deserves to die. Men are only capable for seeing themselves as victims and relating to eachother, you never see them defend or show respect to any other group but themselves.
>>10309452>No I really wouldn't.then why are you biting your tongue so hard trying to force out an admission that just looking isn't a bad thing?Oh actually getting the attention you wanted caused you to feel slightly uncomfortable because you suddenly are self conscious of how you are presenting your body. Stop the fucking presses better berate people for acting on their natural impulses that you caused them to have involuntarily. You show up looking like a character from an H game and expect people to treat you like you're wearing casual street clothes still. Oh and they'll put in the fucking effort too because if they don't you'll use your vagina powers to get them reprimanded for it.
>>10309447gas yourself DD/lger
>>10309467>keeps using "you" as if I'm a costhot (even if I was your behavior and opinion would still be grody)>I have said multiple times itt I don't even fucking cosplay>also a literal virgin who narrowly escaped csa but told I was asking for it as a prepubescent child and it was my fault for being such a sexy eight year old I guess?>show no skin besides my hands and face half the time in lolita>also I apparently leech off of gamer dudes and he thinks all guys into nerd stuff are ugly and socially inept, way to be rude to your fellow bros>disagreeing with justifications for rape because little timmy can't control his peepee when he sees half a titty makes me a whore and means I must walk around half naked all the time>I have vagina, therefore I thot, I guess?
>>10309368>>10309370>>10309371>>10309373>>10309374>>10309376>>10309378>>10309379Imagine going on this much of a rampage because you can't touch titties without asking.
>>10303809I don't mind taking pictures with people! They're usually either hobbyist photographers, excited fans, or cosplayers from the same series. I try to assume the best in people in these scenarios.Maybe it's cause I'm a girl, but I've found that both when I ask and when I'm asked, politely saying, "Excuse me, but could I please take a picture with you?" Followed by a smile and a thank you if they say yes is the way to go.
>>10309548Just curious, where do girls put their hands when taking pictures with someone? Shoulder? Hip?
>>10309570It dependsGirls get really touchy feely with you if they think you're cute, if not it'll be more formal like the shoulder
>>10309574Do girls hoverhand other girls?
>>10309578Nayrt but I don't usually do poses where my hands are touching anyone else in photos unless it's more of a high five or handshake sort of thing (would vary based on character) so hoverhanding never presents itself as an option. I often just do some cute weeby peace sign or wave thing, occasionally the character themed interactive poses shown upthread where the cosplayer is acting out what the character is like. Maybe that's just me though.
>>10309461You couldn't be more of a stereotype if you tried.
just B your'e self
>>10309461Literally everyone gets rejected at some point what the fuck are you sperging about here?It's not actually a big deal
>>10309570People started answering for me, but for me personally I usually don't touch people, I stand beside them.Pic related is an example.
>>10309628Yeah everyone gets let down and it's normal to be disappointed but being angry because people exercise their freedom to like who they choose is unhealthy and solves nothing. Some of these guys don't get that I guess.
>>10309629Same here, I don't generally touch others when getting photos and they don't usually touch me either.
So where do I go if I want to touch cosplay thots?After parties
>>10309461You are way overestimating the amount of ugly dudes out there. Incels are maybe 20-30% of the male population at most. Good-looking and even average guys don't get constantly rejected. Just total uggos
>>10309633>Good-looking and even average guys don't get constantly rejectedI assure you they do they just have the nuts to keep going and not spergs and cry about it
>>10309633I generally think no one in the world is really ugly unless they have a legitimate deformity. Or if they prove themselves to be ugly on the inside.
>>10309636n general consensus around the world, highly asymmetrical faces are considered ugly (lopsided features, gigantic nose, neanderthal brow etc) and the more symmetrical face is, the more attractive it is considered.
>>10309641>le /r9k/ cope imageWithout an attractive personality looks will only help you with turbo thots, you'll never achieve any meaningful relationships
>>10309471That's bait, my friend.
>>10309642It's actually from reddit. Also, no. If you're ugly, only money or fame can help you at that point. Otherwise it's incel city.
>>10309633>Incels are maybe 20-30% of the male population at mostTake the 0s out of those numbers and you might be right.
>>10309674Nah millenial and gen z men aren't having sex, it's considered an epidemic
>>10309645The vast majorty of men in this planet are fucking ugly, yet most of them have no problems having girlriends, wives or even getting mistresses without being rich or famous. Look outside and see for yourself. Your delusional, unless you are dead set on attracting celebrities yourself. I don't think you live in reality.
>>10309677Men in relationships have way more sex than single men (statistically). Incels have shit personalities or poor social skills and are generally not fond of self improvement cause they blame their genes anyway and they end up lacking any traits personality wise that make them appealing and the men who are normal and outgoing enough to have decent success dating get laid in their relationships. The incels who do improve themselves get shunned by the pack and end up getting out of their own heads and finding ways to deal with their emotional or physical discomfort with themselves. The incels that are genuinely just nice but have social struggles don't stay incel forever the way the angry ones who don't want to change do.
>>10309684>The incels that are genuinely just nice but have social struggles don't stay incel foreverTrue, but overcoming social anxiety is a horrible struggle that most people don't understand and most will just think you're weirdAre conventions a good place to practice social skills or will I get in trouble like much of the anons in this thread believe?
>>10309686I dunno, I've had pleasant interactions with many strangers, both male and female, at cons. Some guys have hit on me, but they did so in a pretty respectful way, so I wasn't really put off. A friend and I got hit on by a couple of dudes at a rave this year, and my friend remarked later to me that "If you're trying to flirt, that's the right way to do it. We're just not the right people." (Seeing as how I have a girlfriend and she's asexual and not really into dating). As I said upthread, I assume the best of people at cons.
>>10309686Just be respectful and considerate of others and you should be fine. There is a nearly impossible chance of you getting into any trouble if you are nice and respectful of people the same way you are in everyday life.
>>10303809>Do you like taking pics with random people at cons?I used to but I realized that I don't really want a picture of myself with a cosplayer on the side. I do ask for selfies sometimes
>>10309677Younger generations are putting off long term relationships, which is where most people have sex regularly. There is no epidemic. There is only a very small percent of people in this world who are going to go through significant parts of their lives without sex unvoluntarily. Just because you made it to 18 without getting your dick wet doesn't mean life is over.
>>10309704>18Yeah haha that would be pretty weird
>>10309677You mean ugly men. The rest have been doing just fine. Except in Japan where apparently they really do have a sex problem.
>>10308599hope she has sex with you bro
>>10309913You're replying to a woman.
If you can't handle an arm around you, on your waist, or gently resting on the top of your hip, do not take photos with anyone. It's not anyone else's job to sort out your issues.
>>10310610If you can't ask someone before you touch them, do not take photos with anyone. It's not anyone else's job to sort out your lack of boundaries.
>>10310610Literally just ask if you can touch them brah it's not hard
>>10303809I love to take pictures with people. I enjoy myself greatly being in costume and the fact I can make others happy while in costume is also a bonus.As for how to ask for pictures...well, just go up and ask, straight forward.
>>10303809I just have my attractive friend pose with the cosplayers while I take pictures
>>10303809As a most HANDSOME young man with a most HANDSOME and unique steampunk setup, I often get many requests for Photos.
>>10310610Is there some compulsion that forces you to put your sweaty arm on a complete stranger?Is it impossible to make a nice pose standing next to a person for a photo without touching them?If you can't handle not touching people, do not take photos with anyone. It's not anyone else's job to be your oppai ball.
Just take a pic if they get uncomfortable who the fuck cares Can't live life acting like everyone else's life is worth more than yours
>>10308604Yeah but is there really anything inherently wrong with that? If a girl is physically attractive, knows it, and dresses to get attention that makes them feel more sexy and powerful how is that any different than when a man does the same thing.I'm speaking as a male, too. If I notice that girls give me more attention when I shave, use nice cologne, style my hair, and wear fitted shirts with tighter pants then I'm probably going to do that (if I'm fine with dealing with the discomfort and cost in money/time).Generally speaking when people wear flattering clothing it's because they want to be admired and desired, not because they want to get assaulted or violated.Actually even in a situation where a woman is looking to get dicked-down like a dirty whore for a night she is still entitled to choose who she wants to get plowed by.
>>10310485Based and Ave, true to Ceasar pilled.
>>103096416-8 look like they're the same level to me but the image maker chose poorly lit pictures for 6.I also think most would put Ryan Gosling above 7 but what the fuck do I know?
>>10303814I used to take pictures with a bunch of Con cosplayers then violently jerk off in the bathroom
>>10304773This is based. She knows all these kids are socially awkward as fuck and she knows what they want. I'm glad women like this exist and are willing to handhold people like this. Probably made his year.
>>10304773i love this