didn't see a thread, i'm not really savvy on this board, but who is in the midwest like TX, Kansas, OK? TnT is a big con me and my friends have been going to for a while, and this year it got moved to a suburb of the city its in, and the con is spread out accross FIVE buildings on the interstate, with "shuttles" (old school buses) to take people aroundCheck out this threadhttps://twitter.com/elefluff/status/1149170024680239104Here's the articlewww.nerdandtie.com/2019/07/12/tokyo-in-tulsa-puts-its-vendor-room-a-nine-minute-drive-away-in-a-former-hobby-lobby/Will this make "Con Horror Story" threads?
Thats amazingly bad, wow
The lolita tea will also not have the designer of Juliette et Justine as advertised due to a cancellation and iirc, one other lolita designer also cancelled. I think the tea will just be JetJ staff and then local volunteers? No designer guest or Q&A?
Any pictures of the jetj booth?
>>10220884Twitter has a bunch of photos if you click around that thread or search Tokyo in Tulsa
The usual building is under construction so they had to find another place to host. Decided not to go this year and I’m thankful.....
>>10220890OP here, im here now and yeah its a shit show.
>>10220820>Didn't see a threadDude...>>10220678
>>10220891Are there any neckbeards?
>>10220884I just want to see photos of the chaotic harmony events booth with all the designer merch.
>>10220897I've only seen a few, the dance last night was ridiculously terrible. like 12 people just standing around
>>10220897Anon, please. It's an anime con...in Oklahoma.
>>10220900It's kind of hard to "see" anything, artists have had to bring their own lights and jerryrig shop-lights and lamps and stuff. Its bad
>>10220901Oh! Just like my 6th grade dance!>>10220903OK. I'll stop being stupid.I'm just so fascinated by neckbeards, but I'll keep it in check.
>>10220907Exactly like a 6th grade dance! I remember the past few years them being pretty big for a "bible belt" con
>>10220907I doubt you could swing a cat in Oklahoma without hitting a neckbeard. Someone should do a documentary.
>>10220820>no air conditioning >no lights>dirty floors>exposed wire everywhere>dirty bathrooms>literally an abandoned hobby lobbyjesus christ
>>10220926The cat doesn't deserve that, anon.
2019 Lolita Tea Purchase FormSaturday, 3:00pm - 4:30pm in the Wood room at Stoney Creek.Join Juliette et Justine and designer Mari Nakamura at Tokyo in Tulsa's Lolita Tea party.This exquisite event will be limited to 50 people, and in an effort to make the event highly inclusive, the only dress code is lolita, of any brand, design, or style! No cosplay will be allowed.Entry is $40 which includes all taxes & fees.Except that the designer cancelled a while back and this is the photo of attendees today. Meaning it did not even 1/2 way sell out.
>>10220884I assume that they had their booth in the main building where there was proper lighting & hotel standard quality decorations instead of the abandoned hobby lobby spaceHere's a pic of the models from the fashion show from the JetJ twitter
>>10220965I spy 2 cosplayers in pastel wigs in the back... who's brilliant idea was it to invite a classic brand to the middle of nowhere in the Midwest to begin with if the con can't book A-list voice actors
>>10220965they all look so...unhappy...
>>10220965>all these itasIf I were a brand designer, I would run too.
>>10220965I would not have chosen the word ’exquisite’, but I have not seen the tables or the menu. In the promo photo, this cup is ”Corelle Blue Velvet”, it's a coffee mug from Corningware. Not very promising for something supposed to be elegant. Oh well.
I hope this is a big enough clusterfuck to get an Internet Historian video out of it
>>10220976Why would you hope that, anon?Don't you want your lolita sisters to be happy?
>>10220981yes but his Dashcon and RainFurrest videos are utter masterpieces
You'd think people would have learned from dashcon, but I guess not
>>10220984Do it, you will NOT be disappointed. He also does Q&A videos where he goes over and fact-checks/updates on the Dashcon/RainFurrest stuff, pretty interesting
>>10220981These people are not my lolita sisters. Look at good brand events. Then look at this. >>10220965Shame on you.
>>10220989I love Internet Historian. It helps that in his Q&A's he actually seems really down to earth.
>>10220997Shame on me for loving you <3
>>10220975Nothing is more amusing than what a hick's idea of fancy is. I guess compared to your casusl nice places like Cracker Barrel, printed coffee mugs at a con are v fancy
>>10221007There is ballet, fine dining and opera, two orchestras and two good museums in Tulsa. There is a small theatre scene and an architecture foundation. It is the second largest city in the state at over 400k population and a univesity. No excuse in today’s global community of knowledge. There is no backwoods that the internet has not shed light on in the US. Most Embarrassing Behavior.
>>10221007You type like a cunt
>>10221025nayrt but sorry your tea party was shit your guest of honor fled.
>>10220820Update: Tokyo in Tulsa staff kicked out the artist mentioned in OP for a bullshit reason - they could've asked her to delete a tweet in order to keep selling at the convention but got people involved. What a shit con
>>10221066Wtf? It sounds like they want to kill their attendance at this rate
Are there any actual pictures of the tea party besides >>10220965
>>10221066The reason was because she apparently told someone who was only going to be there for a day to try to ghost?
>>10221087found this ita monstrosity in the #julietteetjustine tag on instagram
>>10221102Never mind the ita, how do people let themselves go so far that they're amorphous blobs of gluttony in flesh?
Map of the layout, lmao.
From the fashion show lol wow
>>10221110Did anyone bother to give instruction to the models?!
>>10221102Just when I thought you couldn’t get any more gargantuan than the ham galaxy on the left. Looks like there has been a new ham universe discovered.
>>10220965>>10220967>>10220975>>10221102>>10221105>>10221110The comm shrilling for this con just needs to let it die. Jfashion isn’t happening at your con, Gretchen, stop forcing it.
>>10221118Probably not since the designer wasn’t there. This model probably isn’t a lolita outside of the con either. I look forward to seeing what the other models did tho. Maybe one of the brolitas shined bright?
>>10221120cacklingbest comment ive read in a while
>>10221102fat people are sometimes given the advice to hang with people larger than themselves in order to look smaller by comparison.She does look shorter.
>>10221102It might not be the best idea ever hatched to invite a more expensive brand with fairly restrictive sizes to a corn-fed hometown con in Oklahoma. Hope Juliette et Justine brought mostly accessories to sell because I doubt they made bank on their booth otherwise. JFC. Also the model choices illustrate how cursed this whole thing was. Yikes indeed.>>10221105This was not worth the ticket price. Con pass $70, tea ticket $40, hotel, gas, food, time off work Friday etc. Absolute nope. I'm crossing this con off my list completely. Once upon a time I had hopes for some smaller cons in the US becoming fun alternatives to bigger city and coastal events if they could bring some lolita programming. Not anymore. This con would have been a big waste of both money and time both better spent elsewhere.
>>10221105How was the tea party presentation and then the separate Q&A? Also, I saw someone with a gift bag? Was there a published menu? I can't tell what the sandwiches are. Basically need some lolita attendee reports here, please. Was it really the complete disaster it seems or was there something redeeming in all of this mess after all?
>>10221102Is that Thulsa Doom on the right? If so I am ok with it.
I attended Saturday and omg it was a mess. The only reason I stayed was to keep my friend company because there was literally nothing to do all day. There were very few panels, even fewer that interesting. Though, that's not exactly the fault of the con.I didn't go to the artist alley, after being warned by a friend who almost fainted from heat exhaustion, but the line for the shuttle was always full and wrapped around the lobby, making it difficult to navigate the entrance. I left after the kpop panel at 8:30, but apparently they had to evacuate because of the smoke machine at the DDFT, which they already knew was a hazard. One of the staff actually asked an attendee with severe anxiety to tell people to evacuate, when he could've easily done it himself. She said it was all fine and good afterwards, but the situation was still completely ridiculous.Honestly, if it wasn't for the attendees being super sweet, this con would've been absolute hell on earth for me.
>>10220967Why does the embleme op (it think that's what it's called?) look so much longer here?Do they use "real" as in actually tall models for their website?
>>10221282Yup! Pretty much always have. Lengths are good for tall lolitas, just don't be fat except in the bank account.
>>10221284>Lengths are good for tall lolitasOh, that's nice to hear, thanks!
Something to note: TNT got bought out in 2018, meaning this is all being run under a different management. So people who had previously good experiences and experiencing all the mess this year, this is probably a contributing reason why
>>10221370What? I don’t like anything the con is doing and feel that management should be at fault, but it’s a legitimate reason things went downhill. New management means this probably isn’t just an “off year” as I’ve seen people on twitter describe it as, it’s probably people that genuinely don’t care much for the AA and haven’t spent the time and years to build up TNT. Logic doesn’t make people shills, get the salt out of your system
Does anyone know how the cosplay contest was? I only heard that there weren’t many contestants this year
>>10221403>what is reading comprehension
>>10221389A failure. Completely
>>10221410Any reason why? Did they bring back divisions yet?
>>10221429I am not there but the cosplay contest registration was in the abandoned hobby lobby located 4 miles away from the main venue according to the map here >>10221108 and the cosplay contest happened in a different building from the main hotel like 2 miles away in the middle dot on the map
>>10221066Another update: local news will be covering this story at 5PM & 10PM. Con fucked itself when it decided to fuck over the artists
>>10221456God this is worse than the Arkansas Anime Festival disaster in Fall 2017
>>10221471I googled but did not find significant info on this. I will venture to say that these smaller and more central US cons aren't really that important to very many people?
>>10221441It's all spread out but everything is within a 10-minute drive/ride. Assuming they put cosplay registration in that venue to force traffic to the vendors. But in this game, if you don't take decent care of making sure your vendors can sell well, they will drop your con and add a different one. If conditions are rough but they still make their coin, they will return. The real question is this: are the vendors actually breaking even or better at this con or not.
>>10221481The majority of the coverage on it was deleted a while ago. Basically they had to change venues, much like TNT did, and shit hit the bricks in the fall because there was a guy that harassed a bunch of people. One person commented on the FB about it, a ton of people replied saying the same thing happened to them, and the admin/con runner blocked everyone in the thread. They got a lot of hate for that for silencing victims and the news covered it, but it wasn't much of a read since the runner changed her story every 5 seconds. Anyways, you're right, these cons are a lot smaller compared to others, so they don't get a lot of attention. Good thing too cuz it looks like the majority are run by assholes.
>>10221481They're not but they're also not important for a reason. If they were run well, there'd be more of a spotlight there.>>10221490Only select artists/vendors are at the main location, the others are at the Hobby Lobby. Pic related on sales, but no idea if those are pity sales nor how well the vendors are doing.
>>10221490There were select vendors in better spots in the hobby lobby & other buildings iirc and desu vendors don't give a fuck about conditions as long as they make a decent profit. I'm certain that a decent amount won't return because it seems pretty bad in comparison to MetroCon which was this weekend (which at least had all the vendors in a convention center), but Midwest vendors probably can't be picky. Reminder that this con is supposed to be Oklahoma's biggest anime convention so maybe the con should've just paid the extra money to the Cox Center & downsized instead of downgrading to Broken Arrow & dealing with this mess. Apparently the mayor of the suburb hated that the con marched in the pride parade and screwed them over with the original location last minute according to rumors. And you know that most artist alleys have gay fanart, so maybe the mayor decided no gay shit if you want the artist alley to be in a public school location. Thus the last minute location change? It's a conspiracy theory on why the artist alley venue was not announced until 2 weeks before the con and that the main contact for the artist ghosted any/all emails asking for a refund on their table.
On the bright side, the staff is allowing self-promo for the artists now (usually against the rules) so check Twitter and/or the FB group of you're part of it for updates
>>10221501Twitter posts are getting more people to attend AA despite the distance, but the wait time for shuttles is long in the hot sun, and there is little to no accommodation for those with mobility issues (such as wheelchairs)
>kicks artist for joking about ghosting>makes AA free on final day
An article written about the artist removed from the AA >>10221066: http://www.nerdandtie.com/2019/07/14/tokyo-in-tulsa-ejects-artist-who-posted-critical-tweets-about-the-con/
>>10221564jesus christ, of course they do the right thing far too late.
>>10221570Your reaction image is funny:)
>tfw I can never shit talk the artist alley at AX ever again after this shit
Did the new segment on it come out yet?
>>10221569>I was a single woman amidst a busy alley being confronted by three white menCAUSE THIS IS THRILLAAAA!!THRILLER NIGHT!And no one's gonna save you from the staff about to ban!
>>10221581>three white menbecause it would have ended differently if the were black men
>>10221579It did. https://ktul.com/watchIt's under the "Latest News Broadcast" in the playlist.
>>10221108Mid-Atlantic Suburbanite hereHow freakin big are the city blocks in Tulsa that the alternate venue is four miles away?Even Otakon when it was back in Baltimore only had a quarter-mile walk from the Convention Center to the area.As an aside, is anyone planning to go to Anime Oklahoma in September?
Lord, that Fowler guy has a punchable, smarmy face. When you have issues with your event, you should at least try to look sincere and professional. TnT has had brand tea parties for at least three years now, and it was sad to see that, instead of selling out in 24 hours, they didn’t even fill half the room. TnT’s failure to post con information probably discouraged out-of-town attendees—I didn’t see as many impressive cosplays or coords as in years past. At least the food was nice. JetJ gave out exclusive phone wallets to each guest. I sure hope they didn’t lose money. I bought a dress but didn’t see a lot of big bags floating around.
More lolitas. I'm thinking I can safely cross this con off my list.
>>10221687Pretty sure that’s a picture from several years back. It’s not awful? The girl in white is cute.
>>10221649Who were the brand guests in past years? I'm not finding the info in search.
>>10221701Last year was Ozzon and MR, year before that BTSSB were the brand guests
>>10221284You can be fat actually. JetJ will take requests for adding an inch here or there, they'll accept more if the dress design can handle it (ie- a solid dress. There's probably a limit for print dresses because of the fabric print).Just be even fatter in the bank account because you can bet they'll certainly charge you for it, and you'd probably pay extra for another tailor to make more adjustments.As usual when you're not there to try on dresses, they won't be able to make sure it fits you since you're not there to try it on. So what I'd suggest is to go much bigger than you need, or at least make it big where it really matters, then take it to a tailor's to get it tailored smaller again where you need it.
I really hope this is the last fucking year for the con. Fuck James, Jonathan, their mother, Shay, Brett, her son, and all the other 'high-ups' of the fucking con.
>>10221102Nothing says j et j like haenuli and offbrand
>>10221640I’m actually hosting a panel at Anime Oklahoma, so I’ll be there.
>>10221640The answer is those are not city blocks, those are suburban mile square blocks. Basically one of those equals 16-17 blocks per mile. So the AA was the equivalent of 64-68 city blocks away from the con proper.
>>10221818This has been discussed and they don't add more than a couple of cm on customs (and their dresses still usually lack shirring) which leaves even their size 2 smaller than the average lolita dresses with any stretch. They used to do size 3 in their cheaper line some years back but I think that line got discontinued after they had produced only a few dresses and those did not sell out, so probably not profitable . It still was not anywhere as large as AP with 1/4 to 1/2 shirring. JetJ is a brand that afaik is still wholly produced in Japan so yes, it’s going go be more expensive. >>10221885This irony is probably not lost on anyone who sees photos from the tea. Mercifully, these fine specimens had left before the group photo >>10221102 although they do round out the true scope of midwestern lolita size variation. If JetJ were not aware of the size issue, it must have been quite a problem sorting through the model applications for this con! But by that time, they were committed to being the guest brand, they had been announced and had a contract so they were stuck. The models were likely chosen because they were only ones who fit because JetJ has never been known for inclusiveness in the past and I've never seen a male model for them before. I'm betting this event has ensured that Juliette et Justine will only ever visit larger cons in the major US cities from now on.
>>10222036I got them to add 10cm to Dragon-chan, but I guess I haven't bought anything since. It's also not done through the website, I emailed them and asked if it was possible (they charged an extra 10k yen for it, if you're wondering).Well, dragon-chan had a simple bodice and it's a solid with a screenprint. Might have made a lot of difference with something else with a more complicated bodice.
>>10222036I'm sure they will be at Paradiso in Kansas City next year. They were treated really well by Chaotic Harmony, but obviously probably didn't sell anything.
>>10222104Aha, good to know and worth the ask then, thank you for the info. In the latest release, they are offering it a la carte as a selection on the form so maybe they also still do alterations such as yours, design allowing. I know on some it's not possible, it would require them to re-draft the pattern, or re-design a set pleating pattern which I don't think they would do. But with some, grading up or adding width to the sides on the bodice and/or adding and re-measuring the skirt gathers could work. Good point anon.
>>10222143I am not sure they would sell enough at Paradiso either, or if there’s enough interest in them as a brand. I would really like to see Paradiso open a wishlist vote (among actual ticket buyers, not just randos commenting) for ’favorite worn brands, what's actually in your closet’ and then rank them. I think it would be AP, Meta and Baby/AatP honestly, then various indy with a bit of the other Japanese ones having lower votes. I think there's too much general noise of people commenting all kinds of stuff about Paradiso, people who don’t even GO to it. But I guess Paradiso would be JetJ’s best bet for anything inland of the coasts that was not in Texas, probably. Looking at the Tulsa tea party attendees, I think Tulsa would do better with AP... and asking them also to bring lots of accessories. If I were a lolita designer, I would have the temptation to stick to Paris, London, New York, LA, trusting that media coverage will drive online sales for people who can't attend in these larger cities. At least the fashion show photos stand a chance of not being bad. Photos like >>10221110 and >>10220967 do nothing much good for any brand. That posing, dear lord.
Anyone going to Anime Oklahoma [https://www.animeoklahomaconvention.com/] in September? I'm thinking of only getting a day pass because it seems that this is the first time it's happening, but the metro location is so much more convenient.
>>10222206No. This thread is firming up my resolve to concentrate on fewer but better cons from here out, I’m done with these kinds of rinky-dink cons supposedly ‘for fans by fans’ when they are more and more ending up to just be money sinks and offering sub-par experiences when organizers don’t get their shit together. Fewer but better, that’s a better plan for me. And that ain’t happening in Oklahoma.
>>10222351Anime Oklahoma seems fun. Might check it out. Anyone here going to Anime Fest Wichita next month?
>>10221836Fuck Brett and James in particular, I'm glad she's gone at least, but all of the directors treat the people under them like shit.Pro tip, guys, if you even have a TnT 2020, focus on putting on a GOOD con rather than a BIG one, even if that means capping attendance and spending the majority of your money on guests your demographic actually gives a shit about.
>>10220967Wow they didn’t even pick anyone from the local comm
>>10221152That’s her husband..... er wife I guess... they decided to be trans and wear lolita
>>10222525No way. Are you kidding?? You're kidding. Those aren't man arms and she isn't wearing a wedding ring. I'm confused.
>>10222526Fat people get androgynous after a certain point so I do believe it.
>>10222525Someone forgot to tell them to lose their man socks and shades. The chick on the left is also really a rude person.
>>10221696Complimenting yourself is creepy
>>10222504Why is there a rodent in his pocket? Ew.
anyone get picks of the tent they put up next to the jetj booth so people could try stuff on?
>>10222525Im in this comm and concerned about going to a meet now. Don’t have a problem with the girl on the left but feeling super uncomfortable if her partner decides to be active. Its hard enough being in public spaces wearing this fashion sometimes
>>10222646He's been to meets before, and never dressed up. You'd know if you were actually in the comm.
>>10222592Have you never seen a prairie dog before!? They are so cute!
>>10222736And your point is what exactly? There are plenty of ita noobs in the comm that haven’t attended meets yet.
>>10223079They carry plague. For real. Ew.
>>10222736Yikes. Sounds like a comm I don't want to join.
>>10223117This might be the dumbest fucking thing I've seen someone get mad about on this whole website.
>>10223117We all carry plagueShut up and enjoy the field rodent.
>>10223123It really isn't it's full of fat ugly itas and their equally ugly boyfriends that they don't keep out of meets.
>>10221108Lol what the fuck is this layout?Do they want to give the neckbeards a workout?
>>10220820>Will this make "Con Horror Story" threads?Absolutely. That makes this year's A-Kon in Fair Park look like a finely oiled machine with a world class venue. I'm about half way through the thread and this is looking like the last/next to last year this con exists.>>10221105At least the food seems pretty dece.
>>10221581>confronted by three white menIf she's going there then I don't feel bad for her anymore.
>>10223181To me, that plate does not say ’wow this is excellent $40 tea party food. Such an exquisite event.’
They're rebranding the con as Tokyo Oklahoma. (note that the guy replying is the con owner which is publicly known)
>>10221581Genuinely made me laughTHRILLAAAAAA
>>10223171In an Oklahoma summer? More like thinning the population.>>10223117t. yankee swine
>>10223151>Shut up and enjoy the field rodent.I love it when you call me 'field rodent' :3
>>10223216Fuck this prick. Generating shit ideas and sitting on your ass while leeching off the community to make your money for you must run in the family.
>>10220820Did they just not have enough money to rent out a hotel or expo venue?Are there even any hotels or expos in Oklahoma?
Yeah, we don’t live in teepees and log cabins these days. But seriously, what appears to have happened is they had issues with their usual venue and took too long to book a replacement. They probably would have had to jump on the Tulsa expo center at least a year in advance. After that they wasted their time trying to get space through the Broken Arrow schools from what I’ve heard. Professionals with extensive booking experience have told me this school district is a mess to work with on the administrative side. So they wasted even more time. They probably should have just skipped a year or found a way to cut back on size or reschedule to make their original venue work.
>>10223372See >>10221020There's no excuse for things being shitty in major midwestern cities at all. No they aren't the progressive coastal US cities or the venerable old capitals of Europe but in 2019, they aren't some kind of barefoot backwaters anymore either so they should stop acting like it. Midwest cons need to step up their damn game.
>>10223216Confirmed by Chaotic Harmony that they will still be in Broken Arrow, OK for 2020 and they already booked musical guests.Still pissed that they had enough money to book Japanese guests but didn't have enough money to pay for the proper insurance for the school venue
>>10223195You should see what they served at A-Kon.
>>10223792https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/cdrqtu/anime_conventions_abandoned_hobby_lobby_con/Apparently it was either homophobic school board member, not having high enough event insurance for the school venue, or not willing to ban porn in the vendor room that got Tokyo in Tulsa in trouble with the original artist alley location that we supposed to be in a school location. Could see why school venue doesn't want 18+ / NSFW stuff being sold on their premises and it's dumb that TnT didn't just comply with them.
>>10223795Pix? That’s a shame, who were the brand guests for the tea? I was thinking of looking at AKON for 2020 since I still don’t feel right supporting Anime Matsuri. Welp, shit.
>>10223797Schools will not fuck around or bend their rules for these events. When will people learn this? They have several boards and a shit ton of parents and the bond bill supporters all breathing down their necks to stay nice and clean and PG. it’s still a conservative area when it comes to who has the larger shares of money in these cities. The Christian Right conservative people. They can just shut some people out. Easily. And they do.
>>10223792At least Ozz On has sales and larger sizing than JetJ. I doubt JetJ sold many clothes from their TnT booth.
>>10221687>ruining a gorgeous bxw old school dress with black lipstickdamn it Jan
Update on Oklahoma drama: Apparently some new convention starting in September is run by a psychotic asian dude and people are flipping out
>>10224527Where’s this going on?
>>10223195Unfortunately most venues will lock you into their own catering service. I’ve worked with a hotel that charged $35/person for dry scones, Costco-like fruit plate, and tea bags
>>10224547If they were spreading the con over so many venues anyway, it would have been ok to hold the Tea outside of the hotel as well, then you can cater it as you like. I wish more cons would, honestly. Most of the hotels that host conventions are really not set up for proper tea service.
>>10223813Look into Anime Frontier. Hell even San Japan if you don't mind waiting til August for a decent con.
>>10221108THE PRIDE OF BROKEN ARROW
Lol, I live literally half a mile from some of the venues and just now found out the damned con even happened. There was zero publicity this year. Usually they have it downtown...but let's not act like it ever didn't suck. Not that most of you deserve anything good.
>>10229686We deserve you <3
>>10229694That's certainly true, but I'm not classified as a good thing.
>>10224539Think it's called Anime Oklahoma and its rising from the ashes of another con.
So what's the skinny on the psycho Asian putting on Anime Oklahoma? Does he have anything to do with the bitch that drove the old con into the ground?
>>10232021>>10224527Tell me more, I was planning on going.
>>10233789Best I can figure...Original Anime Oklahoma imploded before launch, nothing ever happened.Convention taken over by someone else who went all in with the hotel (hence free membership with room nights). I'm from /k/ and know a local who is going, please support this one.
>>102208209 minutes is not a time to drive.
>>10234110I'll try to. Do you have any links to other forums where I can follow up on this?
I live just a few miles away from the Anime Oklahoma event site. I've already got my ticket and can't wait to go!
>>10242411Can someone make a new thread just for them? I don't like TnT getting the credit for this
>>10221108Lmfao never change Tulsa
>>10223972>gorgeous old school dressPreeeetty sure that's just a bodyline dress
>>10243180Thats just bodyline, wow
Here's a thread for Anime Oklahoma>>10243573