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>>10205082>Polyester>Half a kilobuckFor that price, the material could be something nicer like viscose or some of the new high tech semi synthetics
>>10205082Literally looks like axes femme's more tragic designs. Shame because the pattern is actually pretty nice but no way am I paying 600 buckaroos for that
>>10205082I like the lace
Atelier Pierrot is launching a sister brand called "Vallée lys">https://twitter.com/atelier_pierrot/status/1144079203022696455
Enchantlic Enchantilly - Lace CapePrice: 16,092 yen (with tax)Colours: >Black>IvoryLength: about 31 cmBust: about 110 cmOuter material: 100% polyester >https://chantilly-mimidy.com/?pid=142630907 (black)>https://chantilly-mimidy.com/?pid=143480071 (ivory)Item#: 006-104-94 (black), 006-105-06 (ivory)Note: The ivory colourway is called "Marguerite Lace Cape" (マルグリットレースケープ) while the black colourway is called "Rose Lace Cape" (ローズレースケープ).
>>10205082Gorgeous >52000 yenNot in a million years
>>10205154I guess that's cute but who is this for? Do they have any promotional coord pics?
>>10205082Correction: the length of the dress is 96.5/97/97.5 cm
>>10205079I love this so much and would actually buy it if it was black and not navy...
>>10205082Always so happy in my wallet when they put something out of which I don't like the print, the design, and certainly not the fabric. Leaves me with more cash to hunt down their older cotton, wool, and silk pieces.
>>10205154>100% polyesterHaado pasu.>>10205162That lace is really ugly.
>>10205250>who is this forme. I am wanna be princess trash and I’ll be following this closely
Has anyone noticed the increasingly classic sales on LM and people overpricing their very very old sweet dresses in contrast to even a year ago. I used to see things like Lyrical Bunny and Happy garden for around $100 but now dresses of that era are going back up to $200-300 despite being very worn and washed out and having at least 3 owners by now.And don't even get me on the disappearance of cheap old school...What other trends have you noticed?
>>10205280I wouldn’t say everyone’s overpricing their sweet stuff, it’s just what is priced well goes fast and the rest sits making it look like a stagnated overpriced market. Which has always happened.
>>10205082>52k yen>100% poly>at this precise moment upon our supreme lord and savior’s chronological calendar
>>10205082Why are JetJ designs always one tiny design flaw away from not being a tacky mess? This is their most palatable design yet IMO but the weird light color at the bottom and awkwardly resting blue shoulder ruffle make it just ugly enough to identify it as JetJ. >$482 USDFuck's sake I could get two not-hideous BtSSB/AatP/AP dresses brand new at the local shop for that price. What are they smoking?
>>10205248>>10205337Aren't JetJ dresses still made in Japan though? What other brand that does prints still has their clothing made in Japan?
>>10205079I think the problem with Jet J releases like this is that its not hard to get something similar enough to this aesthetic with many other less expensive classic dresses. As much as some people dislike their more distinctive clip-art filled designs, i think they sell better and to a wider range of people. Offering to add up to 3cm to bust and waist as an upcharge may help them though, as well as now offering 3 sizes. Even with the size additions though, it will be too small for most of the people who rely on abusing stretchable shirring and moving shoulder straps.
>>10205287Maury but there’s still way less coming into the market. But maybe that’s because the demographics have changed? Most of the sweets I know have been around since 2010 and would never sell their collections now though they used to sell stuff off (to buy more) all the time when they were younger and poorer. And all the newlitas I meet seem really into classic taobao stuff.
>>10205370*nayrt not Maury dammit
>>10205280>the disappearance of cheap old school...Can't speak for everybody else but I stopped listing cheap old school on LM because nobody was buying it and I'd rather just give things to friends than sell old school AP for less than $20.
>>10205374Me too. I don't list anything any more, there's no point. It's actually really getting me down, my closet has overflowed into my guest room but I can't get rid of anything.
>>10205374>>10205376Is there anywhere people can list wtb for things? Also have you considered selling things in lots?
>>10205341It may sound unfair but to be honest I don't care where it was manufactured. JetJ is printed on hideous fabric half the time anyway, which often adds to the tacky/ita factor. I wanted their unicorn dress until I saw it in person and noticed it looked like it was printed on $3.99 costume satin. >>10205280>>10205374>>10205376If I had more money I'd be snapping up all your old school stuff. Having a hard enough time hawking basic blouses and less popular sweet prints as it is. I find myself preferring old-school styles more and more but my income hasn't kept up with my change in tastes. Do either of you have old BST posts or anything so I could look at your selections?
>>10205377I'm not rich enough for that, but I'll consider. And do people actually buy lots?
>>10205376Lower the price
>>10205381I love buying lots, it feels like I'm inheriting someone's style.
>>10205382When a solid AP dress that's clean, only been worn a handful of times, and well photographed on a mannequin won't sell for $50, I don't think the price is the problem.
>>10205381I love reasonable lots, for example what WW does on LM. Medium sized lots worth $50-$100 and in the same theme or color family would sell the best.$300 lots are just too much, and shitty lots with one skirt and 10 tiny cheap jewelry items are awful.
>>10205385>solid print>50+shippingbruh lmao
>>10205385>mannequin shotThere's your problem.Flat and stock pictures sell better than worn/mannequin/bad lighting pictures.It's psychological but don't ask me why.
>>10205381I loooooove lots. My favorite items from them always end up being something that I would never have bought on its own but ends up really surprising me
>>10205380You may not care, but the fact that it's made in Japan does affect the price. You can complain all you want, but Japanese people want polyester so most brands are obliging.
where can i get some nice button extenders for JSK straps? or any tutorials on how to make them?
>>10205341I bought a print dress from baby a few months ago and it was made in japan. The outer layer was cotton, too.
>>10205399Definitely true in my experience. Thought I was helping my sale by dressing up a mannequin but the flat lay stuff with stock photo always sold first
>>10205376Oh my god post stuff!! If it's cheap enough I've been looking to get more old school. Especially blouses.
>>10205407Truthfully? Unless your hair or a bolero/something over them covers it up, all button extenders look like shit.
>>10205389>WW >reasonable lotsCheap. You mean cheap, anon. 90% of the "damages" they list disappear with one proper wash. They are severly overestimating the damage and underprice their lots and probably already noticed it, since they are selling less. Either this or because half of their stuff gets resold by scalpers anyway.
>>10205374>>10205376Make flat lay colleges of all your stuff and post those on the B/S/T thread here with a throwaway email and take offers, offer a slight discount for purchasing 2 or more items together, combine shipping.
>>10205417WW sells things for what the market will bear, anon. Seems its you who are over-valuing your things if they don't sell? Or maybe your items aren't sought after things as much. People are telling you that their items are selling. Listen to them, take their advice if you want to sell. Lolita is not scarce and so expensive anymore with so much cheap Taobao around.
>>10205417I’ve gotten a lot from them that was like that, it all washed up real nice, but I’ve also gotten a lot that was top to bottom shit with real damages like shrinkage, blood stains, and peeling pleather. It’s a crap shoot.
>>10205429Lots ARE a crapshoot, mostly. 1 good piece as bait, 1-2 meh pieces, then several shit pieces at more than you'd pay for the good piece alone if you had some patience . People are greedy, and most of them overestimate individual resale or trade non-value when they say ’I’ll get my piece and just sell the rest’. Other people have no standards, too many will wear that stained, shrunk, faded peeling shit because it's precious burando. And they look so awful.
>>10205391NYART but people like you are the problem
>>10205341Baby the stars shine bright, Alice and the Pirates, Emily Temple cute, Princess Doll, Maxicimam.. I'm sure there are more, that I didn't buy from recently. I think most Japanese lolita brands besides AP are made in Japan.
>>10205437Ugh I brought a bunch of stuff like that from a lot to my comm’s swap meet to give away for free and watched all the fat itas snatch that shit up. So desperate to rep nasty burando bags and shoes because they can’t fit in the dresses
>>10205413damn, i figured as much. my hair would probably cover it up, but i don't want to waste money on something that wouldn't look good. should i just try tying the straps halter style?
>>10205460For me, that works better on some. On others, I wear them only in winter complete with bad strap extender and cover it nicely with a velvet bolero, shawl, longer wig (too hot in summer), or military style jacket. This winter I'm looking for a Roland jacket and a slightly longer pretty capelet that I’ll also wear over them. For the future, read jsk length measurements carefully and analyze the styles that need extenders for you. Then plan to halter or wear things over. Good luck!
>>10205460You could always use pocket fabric to actually lengthen the straps. Would look much nicer and it could be undone later (apart from losing the pocket). Might even raise the value, depending on the dress. It’s a common problem in the western community.
>>10205465This is a good idea. Maybe so would shortening the waist ties a bit to use that fabric. It would not affect the ability to still tie a nice bow. Or using the back of the waist tie fabric, some brands only use the print on the side of the waist tie that shows anyway.
>>10205455Baby/AatP seems inconsistent. It seems like it's only made in Japan if it's a Japanese fabric. All of their non-prints I own are made in China.AP also has dresses made in Japan, but usually its non-print and sometimes the flocked dresses. Plus a lot of their blouses are made in Japan, where as Baby sticks with China.
>>10205376>>10205374sell to gulls!! Put your stuff in the BST threads.I am always looking for old school stuff as I prefer construction, cuts, and materials of older pieces.begging you, please post your stuff to cgl and I will mop up everything that catches my eye.
>>10205444Anon was complaining about her listings not selling, I gave the solution. It’s not like dress value is determined by weight. It’s entirely up to what others are willing to pay.
>>10205422I'm not op, I'm not selling anything.>>10205429That's true, the pleather items can be really bad to the point it's flaking on the rest of the lot.>>10205437That highly depends on how many items the lot has you want or need. It's not like they're hiding what it contains (thank god, second hand lucky bags are cancer).
>>10205407I wear classic so the straps on my dresses are mostly non-printed fabric and it makes it easy to add button extenders. Get a matching fabric, sew a rectangle with two pieces of fabric, right sides together, sew the two long sides and one short side, flip inside out, sew open side down to your strap, remove the old button from strap, sew onto finished side of your button extender, done. Just make sure to get your measurements perfect before you start because too long and it'll slip off your shoulders. Of course it won't be a perfect solution but it's not very noticeable.
>>10205154so like pastel grandma versions of the same ruffled shit they've been pedaling?
Why the fuck did the janny delete all the on topic new release posts? I'm fuckin mad.
>New EGL releases cannot be posted on the EGL general thread on a board that explicitly states "EGL" in its titlewew
>>10205897Could only bear reading so much of that. Fucking atrocious.
>>10205844>>10205874Wtf is going on
>>10205897She writes like she's in grade school, ffs
>>10205957A bunch of quality posts were binned along with off topic banter. Too much pruning and not enough fucks to give apparently.
>>10205897Do people actually get giddy for lolita celebrities?
>>10205897Don't get why people are complaining about the post. It's OK to read. Of course it's not an academical essay but I had no problems in reading and understanding it. Also, never heard of this blog before, so thanks for sharing it, anon. It's always nice to find new content being produced.
>>10205844>>10205874Probably by accident, because some crossboarder reported them or because the poster otherwise massively shitposted and got all their posts removed. Either way, please don't feel discouraged to post new releases.
isn’t ap online supposed to be having a summer sale really soon? i can’t find the date and time anymore ..
Is the ap umbrella-s that are in stock atm good as a parasol?
I didn't know ETC did summer lucky bags. Shit. Their winter one was so amazing. Now they're sold out.
>>10206064Are there any pictures/blog posts of the winter one? I got the summer lucky pack yesterday, but I don't really know what to expect...I remember people saying that they were underwhelmed by them last year?
>>10206074I don't have pics but I got 1 JSK (black), 1 OP (blue Alice in wonderland one), a coat and a blouse. I still wear all of it.
Is there a (preferably Japanese) webshop where I can buy lots of socks at once? I know brands have them but the ones I check don't have many different colours and styles in stock.
>>10206079Oh, you got the coat one? I only got the cheap one, so I don't have too high hopes...I had a rough day at work so I just got it to make me feel better. But thanks anon, if you want I can post pictures when I get mine!
>>10205897I had no idea someone snapped a pic of the moment I looked down at my pudding in disappointment and disgust. I've recounted this moment so many times when people ask me about Paradiso and now I have visual evidence. Bless you, ruffleroad.
>>10206019>AcademicalYeah you'd be ok with this quality.In all honesty most blogs have eh writing though so I just try to look at the combination of pictures and words to see if I get something from it. It's not academic writing for sure, but we can do better I think when you compare to what people on the internet can produce. But, by the same coin, it is just a person on the internet writing for free. So at least she had fun, I guess. And that's what matters.
>>10206120Hmmm you probably can only write in English, I see. But yeah, aside your rudeness, I agree. It's something done for free in a sea of people complaning that there aren't enough blogs or new content on the fashion. No need for anyone to get salty over it.
>>10206120Nayrt but Academical is also used in English, illiterate anon.
>>10205406>implying I'm complaining about the priceUh what? I'm just saying that the price is already hilarious, let alone for dresses so tacky and awkwardly designed. Quality isn't just fabric and stitching; it's in the design, too, and JetJ just always has swing-and-a-miss designs. Anyone paying that much would have to be a hardcore JetJ fan, and I can't understand why they would exist when all their dresses look like MMM had a one-night stand with Goodwill.
>>10206146Um, what? Googling it says it’s rarely used and refers to “belonging to Plato’s school of philosophy”. It’s not a word that English speakers normally use. The word is “academic”.
>>10206145>Implying people who speak English as a second language can't write or appreciate good English Nice assumptions.>>10206146See >>10206222.
>>10205955>>10205961It's a personal blog. She's writing using a very informal narrative style, like writing in a diary. There are enough photos and she also made a video. My small con-crit for her is that there's no navigation on the blog, at least not on mobile. But tell me, what did either of you write or film for the community lately except these complaints? If you are really such great writers, and travel to events yourselves, please DO write a blog and film things for us all or at least stop discouraging those that actually do.
>>10206234>what did either of you write or film for the community lately except these complaintsAnon, people write pages and pages of things for work and/or school reports. Writing well is a skill that a lot of people learn in their lifetimes. You sound like a sassy teenager that just learned how to use the word “academical”. Deflecting critique by saying “WELL WHY DONT U DO IT THEN” is the oldest and weakest strategy in the book.
>>10205406>Japs want plasticNo, the Chins do.
>>10206234>>10206252No, pay ME
>>10206235Was the critique useful? Meaningful? Helpful? That was not critique. It was uncalled for bitching about someone else’s personal writing. That's out of line and uncalled for. She did not put her personal writing in a blog post up for literary or technical purposes so she really did not deserve unsolicited writing or writing style critique.
>>10206252>>10206264Found the patreon shills and kofi kunts? No one owes you money for writing about a hobby. Go get a writing job for earning your coin. Don't bitch and cry and nitpick when other people post personal writing. People write personal blogs for fun or as part of their hobby. Many of us enjoy reading it and aren’t busy criticizing their writing.
>>10206283>Getting this easily baited W e w
>>10206269It was posted here, naturally, that means it will be judged and talked about here.The most unique takeaway this dishwater blogpost has going for it is an oppressively annoying writing style.If any content here deviated from anyone else's 'i dont wanna offend anyone' content, maybe I'd have better things to say.
>>10206269I think if you put something up publicly for better or for worse you should be expecting this sort of response. You're probably not her but as someone who used to write a lot, I learned to have thicker skin and just turn off comments that are not helpful. That being said while I think blogs are a bit of a dying breed and that's sad, wanting us to support every snippet that we don't necessarily like is also not very helpful.
is there any way to help prevent white cuffs from getting dirty while out and about? I try my best to be careful and keep them clean, but they inevitably get a little grey at the bottom of the palm area. Would a tide pen work?I get so anxious wearing any white, I'm afraid of staining. I wear mostly kuro because of this but it would be nice to wear pieces with white more...
>>10206291Oxyclean is your friend long term. Tide pens are just diluted bleach.
>>10206283>Many of us enjoy reading it and aren’t busy criticizing their writingConfirmed close friend of the writer or self post, no one else would give this much of a shit
>>10206269welcome to 4chan, where people don't handhold you into becoming a better writer.
>>10206283>taking an obvious joke seriouslyif you can't pick up on basic shit like this, no wonder your writing sucks
>>10206294nice, good thing I always have a tub of that lol. Problem is all the white cuffs are on black dresses, should I just spot clean with a toothbrush?
>>10206283>whines about cgl bitching at a blogger>proceeds to bitch about people who try to make a living from something they enjoyYou're a shit person with a shit personality. Don't play the virtue card when you're a cunt yourself.
>>10206302I normally have like a small container of wash water for the parts I need to clean and just have parts dipped in. The fabric will osmosis the water so you just have to check on it and move it so it doesn't effect your sleeves or the rest of the dress. Doing spot treatments with more conceneated oxyclean and toothbrush is good, doesn't hurt anything I've done.I just avoid getting the whole thing going because I worry over dye transfer.
>>10206300Good fucking god. Why haven't I saved this before? Is this 'new'?
>>10206305Too many blog-for-pay people come on these sites to shit on, belittle and discourage people doing it free for fun as a hobby. We already say we wish more people would do personal blogs. This is one big reason why they don't. >>10206290You are probably correct, ignoring shit comments is probably the best plan. I don't expect anyone to read or support my writing if it doesn't interest them, and this blogger doesn't seem to be shoving their blog in anyone’s face so the bad comments just seem harsh with no reason. What ever happened to people just clicking away if they don't have interest to read something instead of shitting on a writer for even writing it?
>>10206314no one is discouraging you because you're "doing it for free", you illiterate mong. they were joking about getting paid. they're saying your writing style is bad, free or not. and yeah, it is. stop embarrassing yourself and your shitty blog and learn to write past a 6th grade level
>>10206314>What ever happened to people just clicking away if they don't have interest to read something instead of shitting on a writer for even writing it?What world do you live in where this has ever been a reality
>>10206314>Too many blog-for-pay people come on these sites to shit on, belittle and discourage people doing it free for fun as a hobby>t. someome who wants to get paid but can't bc their writing sucks
Anon from >>10206332Anyone have any good sweet jewelry recommendations besides Q-pot? I know about BB&B but they're yet more food-themed stuff. Plus a lot of their jewelry is kind of clunky and tacky with the whole "macaron pastel clusterfuck" appearance.
>>10206342Can you stop shitting up multiple unrelated threads and ask the stupid questions thread? Not all of the main brands exclusively put out that youthful plastic jewelry either.
>>10206291Unfortunately there really isn't any way to prevent it, you're best bet is just to wash whites ASAP. The grossness is partly skin oils, so unless you manage to figure out how not to produce oil that staining is just part of life. I second other anon's Oxyclean suggestion, between that and a mild detergent I've gotten all the everyday stains I've run into out. I don't really spot clean though, I just dump things in cold water after testing colorfastness.
>>10206350this thread has devolved into arguing with some random blogger about "writing for pay" so there's no discussion to shit up. unless you mean the one about cleaning garments, which can also be asked in the stupid questions thread
>>10206342You keep asking this but you aren't satisfied with any answers you get. Maybe tell us what you are actually looking for instead of so much ’not this, not that’ repetition? Shitting on styles people do like is not going to help you get more recommendations, it just pisses off the people who actually like, buy and wear that stuff.
>>10206370See >>10206383. Anon keeps asking and then asks again when they want a different answer. It’s annoying. Just a week ago or so we had this same fucking conversation about jewelry that isn’t plastic AP or BABY jewelry
>>10206383Er...no one has given me an answer so I'm not "dissatisfied" with any. You might be confusing me with someone else? All I said was what I referred to in those two posts, in that I am looking for more high quality sweet jewelry brands.
>>10206387>Er...Jesus Christ, lurk more newfag.
>>10206386I'm not the same person. I remember that being posted in some kind of rant thread but I don't remember any good discussion actually coming of it. I got plenty of gothic jewelry brands from a recent discussion so now I'm asking about sweet.
>>10206401Lurk more newfag. Or at least ask the proper threads. You’ve already admitted to shitting this up across multiple threads
>>10206402I mentioned it in the ita thread once and then immediately brought it here so that it wouldn't go off topic and we could discuss it more. What crawled up in your vag and died? If you're mad at some anon from a week ago, I'm sorry to hear that but I don't lurk here 24/7 and couldn't tell you who they were.>>10206397>British people are all newfags
>>10206405Being British doesn’t mean you are required to type like a retard anon. Ask the proper thread or gtfo
>>10206407The general is a place to discuss people's favorite jewelry brands. Asking people what they like isn't a "stupid question", it's a discussion starter.
>>10206408If it were a legitimate discussion starter it wouldn’t be met with this reaction. You can find out the answer by lurking, and since you don’t want to lurk you should ask the thread for people asking stupid questions(read: ones that can be easily answered by lurking or putting in minimal effort to find)
>>10206408You’re asking where to buy jewelry, sounds like a fit for the stupid questions thread to me.
>>10206408the general is a place to discuss new releases/current topics like translation anon’s work, not for people to spoonfeed you questions that have been asked a million times
>>10206409People's individual taste preferences for jewelry vary widely, and there is no easy answer. That's why I moved it here: to flesh out a discussion on jewelry and what even qualifies as "high quality" when it comes to lolita jewelry.
>>10206342Metal brand pieces from sweet brands. Jane Marple, Sheglit, ETC, MILK, Gouk, Mint Neko, Franche Lippee, Michael Negrin, Ingeborg, Leur Getter, Anna Sui, Betsey Johnson. It takes hunting to find specific things I like.
>>10206421I feel like I've seen a lot of people get shat on for wearing Betsey Johnson as "too normie". I think it must have to do with some of the brighter colors being a bit garish.
>>10206342Look on Etsy. LolitaPop and SweetJuju are my favorites but there are a ton of indie places that make all kind of cute jewelry and accessories.
>>10206431anon those are shit tier. "look on etsy" is some of the worst advice for good looking sweet accessories that don't have plastic flowers or lumpy deco. do you really wear that or are you just trying to trick the newfag into buying it?
>>10206427Not every piece. Use your judgement. I have key earnings, tiny bow earnings and a gold rose ring. Nothing loud or bright.
>>10206255This. I can't believe some people are still trying to convince themselves brands are doing what the Japanese want rather than the Chinese, who make up the vast majority of their buying market these days. Deal with it ya racists.
>>10206342SakuraFairy on Etsy's brand Lily of the Valley has some pretty cute stuff
>>10205897>posts shitty writing>comes on here to defend shitty writing>friends with that scalper pankeikoNo one cares about your shitty blog, try again when you can write better.
>>10206433Did you even look at them.Not every thing on etsy is garbage. Handmade stuff is quality sometimes.Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. You didn't even suggest anything better.
is anyone going to start a new CoF thread?i don't have facebook so i can't see who's posting coords
>>10206433>shit tierThis looks prettier and more interesting than a lot of brand stuff desu.
>>10206433>>10206473Look at the tiny god damn teacups. I don't know how you can be this mad about Etsy when I haven't seen AP or BTSSB put out anything this unique and detailed. Most of their stuff is resin glitter puke to begin with, this fashion is lucky it has so many indie brands interested in making more than boring plastic bangles and metallic key necklaces.
Is there a shorter way to write Leur Getter when searching jpn auctions, like how Emily Temple cute is エミリーキュート?
>>10206479Don't think there is a shorthand for LG, but I thought ETC went by エミキュ as well? I doubt people would just list it by shorthand in auctions though.
>>10206469I can make a new one but I'm on mobile so hard to dump. Anyone on who can post from cof easily tonight? Super bored.
>>10206476Everyone guts Etsy sellers because they pretend that if you can buy any of the components easily, jewellery just magically designs and assembles itself and Etsy makers are terrible scalpers who just fleece people. Example:”I could buy those doll tea sets from China for a dollar and just make that bracelet in 3 minutes!”
>>10206488People gut etsy sellers because most of the stuff like >>10206476 and >>10206473 look like shit, and are at best cheap knockoffs of brand jewelry.
>>10206503This. Seems like everyone's starting their own tacky overpriced jewelry brand nowadays too.
>>10206473Looks better than shit like this. Granted op’s macarons are a polished turd.
>>10206431I really like SakuraFairy and ParadiseRose for Staples and more floral themed accessories.
>>10206431>>10206433>>10206473>>10206503>>10206520>>10206525Minty Mix did the hand crafted jewelry better. RIP LJ paper clay jewelry.
>>10206529>>10206534Bb&b just isn’t as charming as the stuff from the old days.
>>10206503People really liked things like >>10206525 and >>10206529 back in the day. Many of the ’shitty’ Etsy sellers are doing the same and now it's ’tacky’. I still like some of the handmade things if they look to me like someone took time and care to make it. That matters to me too, and it's ok if it's not quite as good as brand. It can’t be terribad and fall apart, no. But it can be a bit imperfect.
VM - Coral Reef Dress (コーラルリーフドレス)Price: 30,240 yen (incl. tax)Colours: >Coral>Blue>NavyLength: 108 cmSleeve length: 36 cmBust: 91 cmWaist: 72 cmMaterial:◆ Coral/ Blue ◆Polyester 100%◆ Navy ◆Upper Body: Cotton 100%Skirt: Polyester 100%Button colours:Coral - Off-whiteBlue - Off-whiteNavy - Navy>http://v-maiden.ya.shopserve.jp/SHOP/192MOP07.htmlRelease date: 29th June 12:00 JSTNote: Waist ribbon is removableRibbons with pin are removable
>>10206548What the fuck is that
>>10206520You say this.But people throw money at stuff like >>10206476 or >>10206473, especially at conventions. It's cheap to produce. >>10206473 I can name where the beads and the macarons are sourced from. This cost probably about $3 to make at most, she's making a $20+ profit. Sales might be slow online, but at conventions, people buy that shit up.People start these little jewelry shops because a) not as competitive in the convention circuit as say, prints. b) High markup for profit, low cost to restock c) Why purchase one new item a month working your regular job when making things like this can increase your income and further fund your wardrobe.Not to mention, there are countless people in Japan as well as in China that are making things. Taobao is full of this stuff, I often see similar items turning up from small Japanese-only indie brands.If you can make it and it sells, or becomes popular (like say BB & B) why not make it?If you don't like what people are offering, make what you want to see. How do you think the big brands as well as the indie brands out there began? They didn't start because a bunch of people bitched online about how tacky everything was and how everyone is starting up their tacky brands. They just made what they thought was less tacky.
>>10206548I really like the silhouette of this. People making their dresses should make something like this instead of attempting some of the fancy and monsterous things we have seen as handmade.
>>10206548Looks like my Grandma's dresses
>>10206548I love the cut on this but the print is so wack
>>10206529mintymix was so amazing, i miss them
>>10206342old school, but chocomint?
>>10206548I love the cut and would buy it in a heartbeat if it was solid black with ivory accents.
>>10206548Ah yes, for when I can't choose between grandma-kei and mermaid-kei.
>>10206548The construction and materials look fucking immaculate so of course they have to shoot themselves in the foot with the pattern
>>10206548Anne of Green Gables kei
IW is doing a Japan-only re-release of their 2013 Alphanose Mucha collaboration in their online store.Products to be released from Innocent World collaboration:>JSK >OP>SK>Tights>OTKsYou can find the previous release here: https://lolibrary.org/search?search=+Mucha+&brands%5B0%5D=innocent-world&page=1&fbclid=IwAR06pTm7tAUTE3zOtqb38TKrY5CDJfiXAn6KMaeMoF4hQSXpnOP1wUFTWsc>http://innocent-w.jp/collaboration.html#muchaRelease date:Special members - 28th JuneGeneral release: 1st JulyNote: You WILL need a shopping service if you don't live in Japan.
>>10206255They may want it too, but Japanese people are definitely requesting it.
>>10206548this looks like some simplicity pattern because of the icky fabric.
AP summer sale was pretty lame, why did I stay up for this?
>>10205494Baby's cotton pieces are made in Japan, their chiffon is China.
>>10206772Did you just look on AP USA? The Japan site has a decent amount of things at 20% off.
>>10206473anon this looks awful. it looks like a third grader made it in art class.
>>10206548VM x MonHun collaboration
Guys what's the general opinion of Randoserus? Are they considered too age play? I really want to get one since I really like the shape and I like bags that are actually useful and fit lots of things, but I'm scared people will start talking shit if I post coord pics online.
>>10206901Burando has done it so you'll likely be fine.
>>10206901Just don't be a fetishist pike the dude on your pic.
>>10206901They are heavily associated with age-play when worn by adults
>>10206901Wear what you like. If you’re not an ageplayer, then don’t worry about it
>>10206948If they're indistinguishable from women why even kick up a fuss about it?
>>10206970What? The fetishist part or the crossdresser part?
>>10206901My feelings on them are kind of meh. They look really clunky and can be misinterpreted as ageplay. No one will talk shit about it though as long as you're not wearing it with pigtails and a too short salopette
>>10206901They’re the japanese version of these elementary bags and it’s as embarrassing to wear them as a 28-year old wearing a seifuku.
>>10206548Wtf is that 80s ass grandma print? It’s like Laura Ashley nockoff.
>>10206853This, this is a joke, right?
>>10207005What else would it be?
>>10206548>the screeching of newbies who don't know VM's fame with the fucking famingos printWelcome back, old VM. We just need a few more rulebreaking like low waisted flat skirts and fishtail skirts to complete your comeback.
>>10206450>pankeikoIsn't she that fatty who was trying to sell her stretched out and altered honey cake recently?
>>10206995But most of us or even Japanese, aren't even embarrassed of wearing a seifuku at all?
>>10206482you get most results on y!a with エミリーキュート
>>10207045lmao you really think this
nobody knows where to buy socks?>>10206080>>10206106those are tights from what i can see?
>>10207045>thinking Japanese don’t think it’s super embarrassing for grown-ups to wear school uniforms Sorry, they do think this. Aside from maybe cosplay, since it’s a character, but how they view cosplayers is a whole different story. Like, heck, they even judge women still dressing in cute styles after a certain age/marriage.Also, please don’t confuse normal outfits using a pleated skirt with a seifuku.
>>10207177They're probably talking about japanese people who are into j-fashion, not normies. Tons of japanese girls on insta wear seifukus/seifuku inspired clothes.
>>10207181It's fashionable among a small subset of younger girls, high school age and younger. Not adults. Read about mainstream things in mainstream media, step outside of your weeb or j-fashion circles for some more balanced perspective on the views of average adult Japanese people. The large majority aren't at all into cosplay or alternative fashion.
>>10206615Please correct me if I’m retarded but I think only the tights and OTKs are available right now for preorder? The website says that OP/JSK/skirt details will be announced later?Again if I’m wrong please correct me but that’s all I can find on the site.
>>10206938This is still intended for children, it says so right in the description
>>10207081Personally I like tutuanna, but I'm not sure what you're looking for anon.
>>10206938those were literally sold for children, not lolitas.>>10206901>>10206965They're accepted as a fashion item among foreigners. You'd look dumb wearing it in Japan maybe, but to most normies and even to Japanese people, foreigners like Zooey Deschanel wearing them is just a fashion statement.
>>10207212Yeah but lolita is also fucking silly and immature to most Japanese normies and here we are. Do you really care at that point what some Japanese aunty thinks of your randoseru?
>>10206901It's subjective. To some, you'd have to work hard to overcome it looking ageplay, especially if you are over 16 (and you technically are since you are here) and if you pair it with anything remotely like a school uniform of any kind. #nofunallowed.jpg but unfortunately, a realistic view. And then there are others who like them, they are going to be fashion blind and say they are A-OK. It depends how it looks, what the vibe of the coord is each time, how you look overall. Cute, young and fresh or...P!x!ter! ? I see a hell of a lot more of the later who unfortunately think they look like the former. #IdowhatIwant.jpgThe truth is, a very narrow selection of people can pull it off the way we’d all like for it to look, and a lot of others who do it anyway but look pretty gross with them.
>>10206901It's a bag. If you're that insecure, just don't include it in your coord pics. Most lolitas I know carry around a bag for their actual stuff and then leave it out of pictures or take pics with a small, impractical purse.
>>10207326No but I care what I look like walking down the street. I have an image that I dress to project. I wear lolita, and it doesn't feel silly or immature to me. Using a randoseru with my coords would feel a lot like carrying a MLPFiM lunchbox. Could I? Of course. Will it project anything positive, anything cute, endearing or lovely as a grown woman doing that? Nope.
>>10207363I don't know about you, but I know approximately 0 normies who even know what a randoseru is, much less associate it with children. As long as it's not neon pink with Hello Kitty plastered all over, it just looks like a leather backpack, and it matches coords better than Kanken or Jansport.
>>102073386 secrets omitted for not following the rules? Come on gals, that's a shame!
>>10207033Excuse you but how dare you compare the beautiful flamingo print to this insult to the craft of textiles
>insult to the craft of textilesCasual reminder that your taste may be trash, but at least you're not the anon thinking this
>>10207516True, at least the flamingos appeared to be actually fucking. That's a higher level of wtf_burando for sure.
>>10207367Agree. To people outside of Japan they just look like high-quality leather bags, which is what they are. A ton of adults in America wear backpacks. I know they don’t in Japan (or at least I didn’t see very many when I lived there), but they do here so I think it’s fine.
>>10207584Plenty of Japanese people wear backpacks lol wth. They just don’t wear ones made for children, the same way adults in the west dont.The other thing about randoseru is that theyre usually upwards of $400. The quality is usually worth it but there are also many cheaper bags better suited to lolita
>>10207033>low waisted flat skirts and fishtail skirtsI'm all for this.
>>10206901>>1020736399.9% of Americans that see your backpack won't know it's meant for children (unless you brought a child size which will look stupid so make sure the one you get is meant for adults), Japanese people are gonna see you as a foreigner and stare at you regardless of your randoseru especially if you're gonna be dressing alternatively.They're a cute shape, made to last, and come in fun colors. I don't see the issue here.
>>10207033Literally would rather have that, even in that coral fabric, because at least it wouldn't be as busy and hey it's a 'mermaid' skirt get it.
>>10207212Let people like things. Don't be a fucking dweeb.
>>10207593Maybe a stylish small one but apart from huge nerds I did not see a fully functional regular backpack on a normal adult past college. They are very into “age appropriate” as someone else mentioned. In the US I see regular adults, especially men, use them well into middle age
>>10207033this is really cute, print and design-wise, compared to the travesty up there.
>>10207602>child size Randoseru are for elementary school children. They’re default child-size.>>10206901They’re very clunky and surprisingly heavy. Would recommend a structured leather backpack instead
>>10207363You talk like you don’t know that lolita isn’t a style meant as a fuck you for society that expects adults to dress and act in a specific way.
>>10207734*is, fuck what a typo
>>10205154How do you spell that?I like the night gown thing.
>>10206342Is anyone else highly sus of BB&B? I get the feeling that they are funded by a rich chinese husband or something
>>10207734nayrt but they aren't talking about society but their own image they want to portray.>I have an image that I dress to project. I wear lolita, and it doesn't feel silly or immature to me.
>>10207704>They’re very clunky and surprisingly heavy.This. They don't make good backpacks at all. They are designed for children who are rough on their things to last through elementary school. It won't fit things an adult would be using and it'd be really annoying to actually open and use.
>>10207748Suspicious of what, exactly?
>>10206901>>10207620People CAN like what they want. People need to stop saying this in an attempt to close down actual discussion, it’s mis-used a lot, just because someone disagrees. Anon literally asked what the general opinion is. Maybe stop preaching that people need to agree on everything or they ’aren't letting people like things’ and respect that opinions in a discussion are going to vary? Allegedly everyone here is an adult, ideally equipped with a full set of decision making skills. It is actually a Good Thing to hear a variety of opinions on a topic. Do I care if the anon asking gets a randoseru? No. I don’t mind. It’s their money, their style. Do I think they will get some shit for wearing a Japanese schoolchild’s backpack with Lolita? Absolutely, I’ll be very surprised if they don't. Do most lolitas I see look like they can incorporate one into their coords and do it well? Not really, most backpacks already look too casual for anything but the most casual coords already unless it’s something like >>10206938 Do those of us who do know what they are associate them with kids? Mostly yes. Are there a metric ton of different bags and satchels that serve the same purpose, being a useful bag that fits lots of things? Many of which would look even better with lolita? Also yes.
>>10207734Wrong, it’s not a rejection of adulthood, it’s a style that a very small number of Japanese women use as a personal statement of rebellion against a specific set of cultural norms that they reject. A protest that their lives _as women_ are expected to be restricted to certain paths and behaviors. They aren’t rejecting adulthood, they are rejecting restrictive pressure of women to only be certain things within their adulthood. In the West it’s mostly immature middle class women bitching at each other online and occasionally playing dress up.I’m a realist.
>>10207771At no point did the message say that they're rejecting adulthood. Learn how to read.>>10207752Then why are they expecting everyone to share the same "image" they want to project? Tons of people into kawaii culture and j-fashion actually like MLP for example.
>>10207773>Then why are they expecting everyone to share the same "image" they want to project?They aren't, at least not in what they posted. Maybe apply the reading thing to yourself. They are speaking entirely on their own view and how they would feel.
>>10205079Who's that girl?
>>10207773The person asking about randoseru said coord. That word usually means lolita, not Kawaii culture or j-Fashion in general, some of which would look good with a randoseru and mlp accessories. Lolita generally would not. Good randoseru are an investment so most people don’t buy one as a fashion accessory to just wear once in a while, it’s a daily use item. Will a randoseru look good with the majority of lolita coords we see on CoF? No. This is one opinion of one person. >>10207363Spoke specifically about themselves, not their expectations of others. They literally said ‘I’, ‘my’ or ‘me’ 8 times in their post and did not reference anyone else at all. What is ‘using ones self as an example, and not projecting’? There is a relatively small fringe section of western adults who like MLP and kawaii culture too, yes. But many of them are unfortunately so strongly deluded or drowned in their little culture bubble enough not to know that they are just fringe consumers of a largely manufactured and tiny subset. There are not “tons” of people into any of these things discussed here, not within the general populace of either Japan or any other country either. Most people do grow out of it as well, how many early adopters of j-fashion are still around, active, even still wearing it? A small handful. I wish there were more but there just aren’t.Japanese lolitas aren’t very much like western ones, and kawaii culture is also very different in Japan. That’s lost on people who mostly consume culture from the internet, go to conventions and live in middle America (Surprise, that’s most of this board). So they holler about any opinion that doesn’t reinforce their vision of how they think things should be.But back to person asking about randoseru, they ARE wondering what people will think if they get one. They asked to hear opinions. So no, others don’t need to get shut down just because their opinion is not in favor.
>>10207781A model for Juliette et Justine. This is a photo from their latest release campaign. They unfortunately don’t credit their model’s names as far as I know.
>>10206386semi off topic but it really pisses me off that people give AP shit because their jewelry is 'plastic'. They actually do original designs with custom molds and custom printing, whereas all the other brands (even Moitie nowadays) buy mass produced penny-a-piece charms and hastily assemble them together and charge $50+ for them.
>>10207281I'm looking for socks to wear with lolita. I want to save on shipping, SS fees and time by ordering several pairs from 1 shop instead of from 5 different brands. I started wearing lolita last autumn so now I only have tights.
>>10207807This is more grinds my gears or feels thread than something of wide enough interest for Lolita General. But you are correct. They do make very cute and original designs. Unfortunately the material and the immaturity of the designs holds them back from even being considered serious costume jewelery pieces because they do unfortunately resemble children’s plastic jewelery more than something for adults to take more seriously. They are also largely restricted to being worn with Sweet, or some other very twee or kawaii type of fashion, something else that not everyone is going to wear or even appreciate. I’m not sure why you are crying about it though since there is a metric fuckton of it so you have no shortage to choose from if you do like to wear it yourself.
>>10207281>tutuannaPlease don't wear normie socks with lolita
>>10207562Fuck it really is exceptional. I’m almost trying to convince myself I can make cinched-waist sailor sea-floor mermaid work.
>>10207562Those animals are really cute, why are people shitting on this?
I never cared for Juliette et Justine, but this >>10205079 >>10205095 is to die for… The sax version is cute too.
I don’t understand why some lolitas are so scared of washing their clothes. I know BABY is infamous for running prints and then you have things like Milky Berry but other than those one offs AP is always super easy to wash? Are the people who think it’s hard just mentally retarded?
>>10207873I sort of understand it actually. Lolita is probably a lot of people's first experience with clothes beyond fast fashion, except for maybe a suit/formal dress. Most people are used to being able to throw clothes in the washer (maybe with some color seperation) then throw it in the dryer. If they get trashed in the wash they get trashed, and I know of no one who hasn't had an article of clothing fucked up in the wash. Plus I think Americans default to warm/hot water, normal cycle, and dry on high which is extremely hard on clothes. Top loader washers are also generally very rough, and if you rent you probably aren't getting a good one. The other option is dry cleaning, which people associate dry with expensive/delicate clothes, but if you're in buttfuck USA there might not be a nearby dry cleaner. They're also prohibitively expensive if you want to wear lolita on the regular. So then what? They don't want to ruin a dress in the washing machine, which between horror stories of prints bleeding and personal experience with ruined clothes has put them off of. Dry cleaning is expensive and/or inexcessible. But we want our dresses to remain beautiful and vibrant, with intact detailing. Hand washing and line drying is my personal preference until I can buy a washer that doesn't eat clothing.I know this post is really Americanocentric and I'm sorry, but I think our lack of clothing care knowledge is some of the reason our fashion is so goddamn lazy and fast fashion so prevelant.
>>10207873Baby isn't infamous for running prints. Red on cotton is.
>>10207880Oh sweet summer. Yes they are, it got to the point a while back that people speculated they didn’t even seal some of their prints
>>10207880you should fact check things like this instead of posting asspulls as if they are facts on topics you don’t know about
>>10207880This was discussed in recent months, how new can you possibly be?
>>10207891sorry i don't read every single post on cgl like some people lmao. i have a life. >>10207885their prints don't run more than similar prints from other brands, people just discuss ap and baby more often in general.
>>10207920Stop backtracking. And again, yes they do. Educate yourself on a topic before arguing your uninformed shitpost tier opinions on it.
Advice request. Would you buy some piece of jewlery if the colorway is different from what you put on your wishlist? Bonus points if that thing has some complimentary part that barely go with your stuff.
>>10206080>>10207820I'm looking for socks too. I would buy a bunch from aatp but they don't have much in stock.
>>10207932Depends on the wardrobe; for example, I have all black, red, and white with silver accents, so I couldn't accommodate pastels or gold, but if you can still coord, wear, and enjoy the piece to its fullest, I say go for it.
>>10207932If you collect it in all its colourways, and also all your dresses in every colourway, eventually they'll match each other, or nothing at all, and you'll also have a huge wardrobe since you'll own 2-4 copies of everything.just kidding.>barely go with your stuffKinda feels like you already know the answer. If you can't find a use for it, just pass on it. Good luck, anon. Jewellery in specific colourway seems harder to find than rare dresses.
Which lolita shops are located in Sendai?
>>10206342They sometimes have good stuff here: http://kaijublue-shop.jp/From different indie brands
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>>10207998i use paint.NET, it's a free paupers version of photoshop with a lot of community support
>>10207004Don't shit on Laura Ashley this way
why do triple fortune's designers look like animu characters
>>10208054they're in a visual kei band or something
Is this a trustworthy shop?https://item.rakuten.co.jp/vectorpremium/100-901903150010/
>>10208064Yeah, but buy with a SS from them. They tend to cancel orders to forwarding addresses.
Question for people who own Gothic Arch (original JSK release) in white, Is it difficult to get stains out? Would the print get damaged if you have to wash it a lot?
>>10207932I would, if I could wear it with other things or if I just really like it. I feel like if I couldn't wear it with other items, I might not want to own it in other colors. Though this doesn't seem to be much of an issue for me since my wardrobe is pretty varied in color. I own a few multiples in different colorways of pieces I really like and wouldn't object at all to owning everything in the series.But I'm also a filthy hoarder.
>>10208085I own Several other older Moitie pieces which is also screen prints. hand washing should be fine. What’s the stain of and where is it located? If it’s white you should be able to easily spot treat it.
>>10208094olive oil and black vinegar
>>10208103Oil you can get out with degreaser dish liquid, will probably be all you need for the vinegar too.I got oil all over myclothes at one point getting drunk in a korean karaoke bar, dawn and time, plus a toothbrush.
>>10205495this irks me. Get off this train, trendhopper. It's people like you that made the prices go up and selection go down in the first place. Gtfo my oldschool, youngun.
>>10207704>Randoseru are for elementary school children. They’re default child-size.Which is why I said, make sure you're buying some that aren't specifically for children. Randoseru are popular now, there's stores selling them specifically with adult wearers in mind
>>10208152>old school is for poor people only!!
>>10208094this reminds me, how do brands go about screen printing large lengths of fabric? I'm a beginner printmaker and thing this would be cool to do. Is it just careful registration?
>>10208152wahhhhh the style i like is too popular waahhhh
>>10208154Ageplay stores would have some adult sized ones
I bought a ticket to Hellocon's Witches Follies event, but I won't be able to go after all. Is there a way for me to sell my ticket to someone who can go? I wouldn't scalp or anything.
Where are AP's summer prints, what's taking so long?
>>10207820You'd have better luck buying a secondhand lot.
>>10207830Don't worry anon. I still look cute.
>>10208353It literally just became summer on the 21, calm down
Mucha tights and OTKs are up for the general release
AtePie - Long Bustle Braided JSK (ロングバッスル編み上げジャンパースカート)Price: 26,460 yenColours: >Navy x Black>BlackFront length: 116 cmBack length: 111 cmSkirt length: 92 cmBust: about 79 cm 〜 104 cmWaist: about 64 cm 〜 92 cmMaterial: Polyester 100% >https://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?pid=143953570 (Navy x Black)>https://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?pid=143953545 (Black)Item#: TOP3034nvbk (Navy x Black), TOP3034bk (Black)Release date: Saturday, 13th July
>>10208293Can you not>>10208299Shopranran
>>1020837221 was solstice, Midsummer. That’s the turning time when the days begin growing shorter again. Summer is literally half over.
>>10208085Just suck it up and take it to the dry cleaner.
>>10208054Brilliant Kingdom and Botox?
>>10208541This would look like Ursula in black x lav
>>10208353>>10208372Are we not in the middle of AP's summer releases? Everything's short-sleeved and breezy for a while now.What I want to know is when rainy season is. I kind of want a lolita raincoat.
>>10208368>doesn't even know how to get proper legwear without handholdingHm doubtful.
>>10208676I'm not the anon that asked. I'm the anon that suggested. Please read more carefully.
>>10208669Rain season went already. Max heat will be reached around August.
>>10208301I think they usually have a thread in their facebook event or facebook group where you can sell tickets.
>>10208793You're the anon that suggested normie socks.
>>10208611Google “first day of summer”
>>10208813Dang, I guess there's no nice raincoats this year. Thanks, anon.
Wow did this bitch shoop Misako's face uglier? That's some small petty energy right there.
>>10208152I'm 28 but okay.
Anyone know which brands make blouses for someone with broad shoulders but small bust? Or am I doomed to always wear blouses without shoulder seams like pic related?
>>10208937Kek. This made my day. Thank you anon.
>>10208937Jesus that's cursed
>>10208937I don't think this person did it on propose. Lot of asian photoshop their eyes bigger and face thinner but it just looks unbalanced. Though I agree she should've made it better leave it be.
>>10208842Because having normie socks means you don't know where to get brand socks? Anon was asking for bulk.
>>10208995She was asking for a place to buy several pairs in a lolita thread, not bulk buy cheap normie socks
>>10208997Tbf, the only lolita band I can think of that has several different looking socks in stock is Angelic Pretty
>>10208959I feel like AatP is a good bet, Meta too.
>>10208959If you are the same anon in the stupid questions thread who has 38cm shoulder width, I have 38cm too and I fit blouses from Emily Temple cute and Btssb perfectly.
>>10209005Maybe you it "fits" on your body but btssb is made for 32-36cm shoulder width
This is apparently sold out already. Excuse me, what the fuck AP?Dress is: Gingham Color Scheme Shoulder Ribbon Jumper Skirt
>>10209060I'm an AP whore but this really looks like a kids dress
>>10209067At least it's not empire waist. That would put us firmly in toddler city.
>>10209060Been seeing it sell for ridiculous prices secondhand, too, what the hell guys
>>10208959Seconding this question. I'm really afraid of buying blouses that have less than 37 cm listed as the measurement.
>>10209105Remember that Futurama episode with the moon farm? I feel like one of the hick daughters would be wearing this.
>>10209060As somebody who doesn't wear sweet...you are delusional if you think that your usual stuff looks any less ridiculous and kitschy than this lol
>>10209135I generally try not to look like Frankenstein's tablecloth, so no.
next thread >>10209110
>>10208997What lolita brand sells only socks? Really anon? Most brands release a few at a time and most of us just add them into our other orders.
>>10208959Gathered sleeves is the answer. When I had 42 shoulders and 78 bust I wore mainly MmM blouses and most of them fit flatteringly
>>10208937Misako's veins match her OP.
>>10206901Cotton Candy Feet's bubble heart bag holds enough to overnight if you just want something large.