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>What is your favorite thing about classic lolita?
>What do you think of the current direction of major classic brands eg Innocent World/ Victorian Maiden/ Juliette et Justine?
>Have you found your classic style or definition of classic changing with current trends?
>Any classic dream dresses you have?

Post classic pictures - coordinates, dresses you love, detail shots, etc.
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>>10195741

For anon last thread who loved the blue JetJ dress - I found a coord photo with detail shots!
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Any advice on how not to look like I escaped from a mormon commune while wearing classic? I’ve been told I have a very “wholesome and midwestern” appearance, and while I look great in sweet and gothic, whenever I wear classic I just look very religious and confused
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>>10195828
Without an idea of how you look I’d say maybe try bigger hair/headpieces?
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>>10195828
Don't be cheap and invest in brand items and good accessories?
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>>10195886
Thanks, that actually may help a ton. If post a pic but the issue is my face and Id block that out so... yeah.

>>10195895
Thanks, but nearly everything I own is brand. That’s not really the issue.
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>>10195828
Wear blush? Or make up in general? Just enough to make it obvious that you are wearing make up on your face.
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>>10196048
I wear a lot of himekaji, so while I obviously won’t go full gal maybe it would make sense to lean a bit into that?
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>>10195719
I'm usually not a fan of plaid but there's something about the ruggedness of plaid in contrast with the elegance of the blouse that I find extremely novel. When I saw it was plaid I thought I wouldn't be spending any more money this month. Fuck.
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>>10195828

Maybe take a look at how brands style their western models?

As someone with thin hair who would look like a tired greasy haired ball if I didn't style my hair, I find that giving it volume is very much key to amping my style. In addition to >>10196048, maybe also consider short falsies and more obvious eye makeup.

>>10196389
I'm highly considering that blouse for under my solid pieces, but I already bought the bordeaux JSK.
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Preview of new release by Seraphim. Details coming soon.
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>>10196389
My big gay frilly heart needs this
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>>10196389

At first I was pretty sore that the JSK had no type of lace at all

But if you put the blouse and JSK together, you get a frilly piece with subtle lace

Well played VM, well played.
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>>10197190
VM's layering game is on a whole different level desu.

>>10196506
Buy the blouse so you can coord it with the JSK like in >>10197190. Just a low low price of $500 to fully live out your plaid dreams!
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>>10197206

I'm both replies, and I'm seriously thinking about it.

I never knew those stock photos existed and now I'm happier they do.

Moving onto classic jewelry, does anyone have anything like Schwarz Schmetterling? I love their stuff but they seem to have only a few items in stock these days.
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>>10197190
I hated the blouse and jsk until I saw them together
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>>10195741
love that bag
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>>10198585
Ugh, I want this dress so badly. If anyone doesn’t want theirs I’ll buy it.
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>>10198695
There's one on Yahoo auctions but it's the long one
SERAPHIM セラフィム アイスランドポピーワンピース https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w319416799
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>>10198695
fite me
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>>10198587
Are these linen blouses? I'm in love
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Anyone else love the dresses without shirring? They make me feel especially small and dainty, especially in summerwear.
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>>10198891
Shirring looks ugly and the bunching gets uncomfortable when it's hot. I'd much rather brands make sack dresses with waist ties/ribbons if they want to cater to larger sizes.
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>>10198891
aesthetically yes,they are a blessing for the eye, practically, nope. I need the shirring so my ribs can move around when breathing.
>tfw unironically 'big boned'
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>>10198880
It's an OP from Seraphim!
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>>10198891
Yes, I feel like they flatter my figure while shirring makes me look "bubbly".
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>>10199312
This model and weird background doesn't make me want to buy it
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>>10198891
Unless it's a fitted dress with corset lacing no. I like how shirring helps distribute how fabric bunches up. I'm not about that constant adjusting life and unless I'm wearing a vest or corset (like Excentrique) I always feel like I have to distribute how the fabric sits, especially with a belt or waist ties.
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>>10199275
Big ribcage checking in. Breathing is nice, so shirring it is.
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>>10199312
the picture makes me feel like i have to defeat the model in battle for the sake of my family
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>>10198891
I like both. Whatever it takes to make the dress comfortable and well fitting.
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>>10198891

To be perfectly honest, I don't usually notice except I wore an ill fitting FINT dress the other day with some wonky shirring, and wow, that was an ill fitting dress. I suppose it depends on how well the shirring is in the back. I usually don't mind either I guess.
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I'm really enjoying the classic revival in Japan desu
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I recently pre ordered the new Violet Fane dress, The Charmin Town, but I've never worn classic before, just sweet. Can anyone help in terms of how I could style it? I have a blouse from Lady Sloth ordered (the cotton crop top in ivory) and I have high heeled brown brogues and I'm thinking ivory tights. I'm unsure about the rest especially headwear.
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>>10208895

Coord help thread might be more helpful >>10194466, especially if you take the effort to feed them a collage or two.

Personally I'd just coord the dress sweet rather than buy a whole seperate outfit. The cut is pretty simple and the print is colourful so it looks easy to coord. For headwear you can either match it to your bag+shoes, or it shouldn't be hard to find a matching ribbon to the belt that you can whip into a hair bow or beret pin.
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>>10196389
Lesbian kei
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>>10209555
90% of lolitas are queer so that applies to it all
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>>10209555
that's literally why I bought it
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>>10209623
Same
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Did anyone else get the Afternoon Lady Blouse? I just received mine and it's really translucent. Are there any alternatives to wearing an undershirt?
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>>10210505
You don't need an undershirt if it's under a jsk but otherwise it's pretty necessary. I recommend Uniqlo airism, most Japanese girls wear them as default under every garment.
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>>10199275
Big ribcage, wide shoulders and very long legs here. I look like an ageplayer in sack dresses and to this day have never found a dress without shirring that fit my back, so no thanks. But I do agree there's an elegance to a nice fitted dress. One day I will find a solid piece I can alter,even if it will lower resale value.
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>>10210509
I see. Thanks for the rec!
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I can't believe two colors of this sold out already.
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>>10210509
Seconding the Airism recommendation.
I’ve been buying a lot from Uniqlo ever since they opened stores in my city.
Their Heattech stuff is nice for winter too
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Rosa Bianca is putting up 2 blouses for reservation later today.
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>>10216319
hnggg
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>>10216319

They look nice, but would it kill them to steam before photographing them?
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>>10217519

Apparently linen shirts are meant to look wrinkled. Something something looks lived in, adds to the charm or something.
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Mother-daughter pair
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VM Modern Yukata!
More photos here: https://twitter.com/uXcKPdh6uDDuysm/status/1142775656645709824
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>>10218466

OH GOD I'M SO READY FOR THIS.
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>>10218475

>mfw I actually go back and read the post

Oh....

It looks so pretty, I'm so happy she wore it and took pictures in any case.
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>>10218478
Eh well, I did word my post pretty vaguely now that I go back and reread it...
Anyway, here's the lolibrary link https://lolibrary.org/items/victorian-maiden-victorian-maiden-modern-yukata-purse-obi-decorative-collar
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Mary Magdalene is refunding all Faltetto pre-orders
http://www.marymagdalene.jp/contents/news/20190710.html
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>>10218916
wtf
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>>10218916
So they're still alive somewhat!?
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>>10218916

If I ever become a millionaire I'll make a fuckin fund for them.
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>>10218925
I swear ever since Victorian Maiden pulled through I’ve been buying from every release, i got that same energy for Mary Magdalene
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>>10218928

You're a better person than me, anon. I couldn't quite see how that last Sailor OP could fit in my wardrobe so I abstained. I did buy $500 worth of plaid though, so stay tuned for that glory come fall.

My somewhat major regret is that I didn't buy any of the Merry Lou OPs from MM when they did the release. I should have gone for the green.

I really hope they're ok.
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>>10218928
There’s one accessory still in stock on the website, buy it
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>>10218923
It means that they couldn't produce the orders. It probably means they're dying.
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>>10218925
I would love to see MM do a fund like VM did. One last hurrah.
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>>10218916
Well this is sad.
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>>10218916
Not only are they refunding, they're adding more cash back as an apology. I really hope it doesn't bankrupt them. Who knows how many orders they got.
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Fujiwara posted some previews of new Innocent World releases.

I am in love with the green OP
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They probably need to release a tea length petticoat if they insist on tea length releases though. The combination of a dress with no lining with a regular petticoat makes for some major lampshade.
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That collar though!
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>>10220805

And finally their new Mucha OP. I suspect like the tights we need an SS for it as it is only Japan release.
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>>10218916
This is so sad, what a gut punch it must be for them. I really hope they can sort out a new production line. I really love MM and it breaks my heart that this has happened to them, it must be so dispiriting.
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>>10220806
I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to get my hands on this and it kills me inside
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What did you not like about it? I thought it was pretty cute.
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Does anyone know anything about this? I got the photo from here https://twitter.com/manimanium/status/1148505464381956097?s=19
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>>10220798
oh thank God, I've been so worried! They're my all time favourite brand but I haven't seen anything new from them in a while
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So lovely! When it will release?
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>>10220806
The Mucha dresses are up on the site now: reservations for special members from the 19th, everyone else (in Japan) on the 22nd. New organdy pannier as well.
No green colour way so my wallet is safe
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>>10223285
There’s an OP, JSK and skirt; available in brown, pink and milk tea
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>no black
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>>10223285

I sold the skirt in beige before but now it's in pink I think I need it rip wallet.
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GET HYPED
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>>10225256
Oh no Oh No Why was a fooled into spending all my money on plaid! They were holding out! This is some old school VM
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>>10225256

first IW releases a Mucha OP I actually like, now this, RIP wallet.

My only gripe is that the fabric seems to be a little stiff, hoping that IRL it looks much better. But I love the short OP. It is a dream.
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>>10225265
MERMAID SKIRT MERMAID SKIRT MERMAID SKIRT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ITS SO PRETTY
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>>10225270
VM are launching an attack on my bank account, jesus christ.
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>>10225260
This is the only piece I want but the shape of the cut looks impossible for me. Bodice is quite short and the waist is 75cm with no corset lacing, it even looks baggy on the model
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Does anyone know if the Juliette et Justine Feerie jsk will be re-released or how much it goes for on average?
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>>10218916
On the other hand, is that tiny note in the corner about coat resale reservations new? (Hoping for some positive news).
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>>10226259
That would be fantastic but I think it’s been there for ages, the pictures of the coats for reservation would have been in the Build to Order section beside it
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Muuh SS posted this a while ago with the caption Juliette et Justine. Does anyone know if there’s a rerelease coming? Muuh’s updates are occasionally misinformed
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VM has more worn pictures up on their Twitter. The black colorway is stunning!
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>>10226463
Cute, but YEAST across the crotch is a no.
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>>10227940
I love it when the coffin makes a cameo
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>>10228050
Wondering if they’ll be releasing those gloves
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>>10226463
It's probably just old stock at Atelier Pierrot or KERA shop that they used to make a coord shot
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>>10228103
Atelier Pierrot posted it on their insta 6 days ago.
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>>10228150
>current
There's a lot of jetj hanging out in Atelier Pierrot that doesn't sell, especially size 2. It's old. It's not a popular brand in Japan.
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>>10228173

Yeah this.

If you want something of the old stock, would recommend e-mailing JetJ about it. I managed to get Soupir D'ange and on sale too this way.
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>>10228173
>It's not a popular brand in Japan.
Really? Why?
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>>10228190
>Soupir D'ange
Which colourway?
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>>10228271

Pink colorway. This was two years ago though, and from what I know they only had a few left at that point. It's still worth it to shoot them an email though I think.
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>>10228195
It's seen as gaudy and not cute in a Japanese-kawaii way. They use foreign models all the time so Japanese girls feel it is more suited to elegant/foreign looking/sexy types. Also they don't like the lazy clip art and painting prints and the relatively simple designs for near 40,000 yen (same as the Western lolita community). The sizing is also too big, especially size 2 and there's not much shirring or corset lacing on their stuff compared to other brands. Japan is also pretty conservative in some ways and jetj uses lots of art with exposed breasts.
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>>10227940
Aaaa I can't wait! And I hope this series sells well enough to send a message to VM's designers.
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>>10195719
My favorite things about the Classic style are first that it's pretty easy to tone down both a sweet and a gothic main piece with elements of classic styling so it's really the most versatile style. Second, that it's the easiest to wear most often in the everyday without going casual. And lastly, I think it's the most beautiful style for the majority of people staying in the fashion past 30 unless they are truly more gothic.
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It's the last day of reservations, what did you gulls end up getting? I've yet to come to a decision on the mermaid skirt.
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Newbie here, I gotta say that I like this style A LOT!
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>>10232295
I didn’t get anything! I was tempted but I knew the piece I wanted wouldn’t sit right on the torso so I resisted. Hope this release gives VM a boost though!
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>>10232295

I got the skirt in red and the OP in grey. I regretted it as soon as I saw the live video of the model twirling in the short red OP, rip.
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>>10232450
Same here. I’m supremely salty about the lack of JSK because as beautiful as those OPs are, they wouldn’t fit right on me. The fabric is so gorgeous though, in all colourways.
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Some sneak peaks from VM!
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Ready stock of the Victorian Rose series is up on Wunderwelt and VM's webshop! Pic unrelated.
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>>10235650
Hello poorness my old friend...
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VM in Kera
http://kerastyle.jp/fashion/34799
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VM is having a summer sale from 9th August 19:00 to 20th August 23:59. They will also be releasing pic related.
>https://twitter.com/VM_press/status/1159423603613548544
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>>10237302
This is supremely cute but I want to hold out for the coats
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>>10235669

For anyone who pre-ordered this series, is there anyone who has NOT gotten this yet? I pre-ordered this and I noticed some people already have the series. I know VM tends to stagger their deliveries, but with no announcement this time on delivery, I would like to know if I should hold out or if I have to rmail them about this.
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Reservations open 17th August (today), 10:00 JST
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>>10195721
Anyone knows who is the girl on the right? Always see random photos of her and love her outfits, is she still wearing lolita?
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>>10241605
She's lizchen_r.



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