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The world ends at the end of March.

What are you working on? Looking forward to? Any drama?
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Anyone else at minami this weekend? Seen a few cosplays already.
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>>10122543
Cant wait for the medication and fresh fruit and veg shortages.
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>>10122609
Great, you have abs
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>>10122543
cant wait to die lol
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>>10122614
Go play DmC 5 to lift your spirits before death.
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Anyone thinking about going Liverpool comic con? I wouldn't it's dead!
https://youtu.be/icSFEi4i2HA
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>>10122713
Because most people are planning to go tomorrow?
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>>10122713
its friday, most people are working or travelling
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>>10122713
I didnt think it'd be this dead but fridays are always the deadest day, I'm going tomorrow and sunday.
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>>10122756
They have also downsized from what I can see from last year it seems?
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>>10122800
What’s the usual person total? I’ve never been.
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>>10122880
Apparently they've sold 5,000 tickets for tomorrow
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>>10122800
if anything they seem to have grown slightly. Last year was rammed on the sat and sun. This is their first Friday so i'm not surprised it's dead af
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>>10122900
Wasn't it two halls last year, or am I mistaken?
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>>10122906
i'm sure they opened up all of the halls iirc
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>>10122897
It was definitely packed. But the layout was atrocious and meant that half of the whole was empty and the other half you could barely walk around in. Which meant everyone just sat in the hallway and you could barely move without stepping on a bag...
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>>10123303
yeah was packed but not as busy as i'd though it be. Why do they insist of taking up a large chunk of the hall for 1 replica spaceship and barely anyone took pictures of? That could have been filled with more stalls for sure.

There was also some lovely folk selling knock off anime t-shirts and wallets for x2 the price of the og. Typical.
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>>10123334
You had to pay for a conbook too... ridiculous. I don’t know any other event that does that...
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>>10123334
Maybe they wanted to make it look busier in the videos/photos?
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>>10123345
There weren't even many cosplayers there like they took a photo, but with barley anyone in it. The photographers there also weren't very good
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>>10123344
Yeah that's bad. Another thing was the huge amount of normies. I couldnt find a seat to sit down anywhere because all the mums with prams took up all the seating. I got stares and comments about how "weird" cosplaying is etc. I wish they wouldn't try to appeal to these people.
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Reminder that this is a niceposting thread!
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I wonder why?
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>>10123495
Andres at it again I see
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I don't mind Sunnycon and wondering what their liverpool event is gonna be like, but I can't handle this cringe from tuker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rq2vXHVEtY
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>>10123303
>>10123334
Damn, really dodged a bullet there by being a lazy piece of shit and just staying in bed all weekend
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I notice there's Tekken 3 announced for MCM Birmingham. I know it's a slim chance but im hoping to see a Tekken 7 related announcement soon
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>>10123874
These videos are just plain stupid. Not surprised there’s barely any views.
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>>10124279
Sat was decent, sunday was pretty dead. Basically normie con. Was a laugh but if you're a weeb you're not very welcome by the looks of it. They treasured shit bought-tier supermans and star wars cosplayers but actual good weeb cosplayers were totally ignored by press, staff, and attendees. It's what they did market towards so i'm not really all surprised.
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>>10124398
so it really was shit.

And lol at them charging 22-28goodboypoints for a day pass for something so fuckin small and crappy, when even MCM charges half that much
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>feeling jolly

I don't think your maids are very jolly mate
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>>10124398
Agreed, Sat was ok but it was defo a normie con which I was expecting. Nowhere near worth the 22 quid ticket price for a single day, never mind the 60 odd for the whole weekend. I also thought it was fucking stupid the system they had around the entry halls. They were only letting wristband holders in through both hall entrances but single day stamped people could only go through another which I totally did not understand. Got chatting to a few of the guest cosplayers though and they were nice enough.
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>>10124452
The sheer amount of wasted hall space and normie mums that didnt know wtf was going on was a huge shame.
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>>10124484
yes that space was weird cramming all the dealers into one side making it very hot and stressful at times when busy and then so much free space at the other end. Still, don't understand why there was one console in the middle or nowhere
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>>10124435
has anyone noticed that arcadia always seem to update their social media at about the time the pub closes?
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>>10124518
Wonder why..... /s
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Looking forward to March 29, it had better happen
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>>10124557
if it happens
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>>10122543
I'm going to start making 4 cosplay outfits that i need for a con in 2 months and i've only made a cosplay outfit once in my life.... rip me

I am looking forward to my first big con and Tokonatsu. i hear some drama every now and then but i don't like to bring it up here since i don't wanna get involved plus people bring it up here anyways (either there or on the discord group)
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>>10122543
Costumes are sorted, now its just a case of getting time off approved for conventions...
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Hibana reg is open, get going
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Hello, I'd like to claim the keys for my reservation at The Hub, 7th floor.
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oop oddtogs cosplay drama kicking off on facebook
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>>10125028
Share?
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>>10125083
looks like they made the most recent stuff public. I have not read it yet, but something about a deceased pet? Is the drama there. I do not want to read 21 posts and see it actually about a dead pupper because sads.
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>>10125115
nah she used the photo of a dog because it looks sad, its not relevant to the post. Shes made a massive post doxxing a dude she used to fuck because shes pissed he dumped her, and then got worse in the comment replies, its very entertaining
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>>10125131
Ah, thank you brave anon. I shall read.
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>>10125131
I love how Beth comments, swear she posts on any drama. Maybe her attempts of saying she's killing herself to people haven't been working so needs more attention
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>>10125178
what the hell am I reading?
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>>10125178
> Beth Brookes telling someone to be more mature
LOL
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>>10125178
thought you meant the other beth then, was confused as i hadnt seen her posting about suicide anywhere
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I fail to see how this post on their page was a good idea. If she is pissed because the dude broke it off, did she think this post would win him back!?
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>>10125194
the comments on her part in this are gold
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>>10125195
from what ive seen her ex friends posting about her, seems shes just crazy
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>>10125223
share?
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>>10124645
Are people the desperate for a con?
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>>10122543
>The world ends at the end of March.
citation please
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So, what April events are there?
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>>10125396
Mcm panic
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>>10125380
Hibana? Who the fuck designs websites like that these days? It looks like something I did when I was 11
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>>10125422
and yet still better than last year - hardly instills you with confidence does it anon
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>>10125234
You can just google the cosplay page and read it there.
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>>10125457
what cosplay page? Is it cosplaykira or someone?
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I find it funny that most of the drama thats posted here is dog related drama
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The original post has been deleted now, anyone have any screenshots??
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>>10125475
Oddtogs
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>>10125485
Late to this but not screencapping drama is some real amateur hours shit /cgl/
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>>10125512
I have them will post later
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Seem like alcon is dieing a slow death
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>>10125561

It has been for years, Towers just refuses to acknowledge that.
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>>10125561
since when was alcon a thing to bring up? Not like anyone is going to it here.
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>>10125581
They cut a day off and only using one building also no longer 18 plus
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>>10125590
Yeah but Did you see any of the comments after the last one? The changes announced is what people were asking for, so I doubt it’s going to be the end. Like it or not they have actually listened to people so people will still go
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>>10125590
the real reason they doing it is due to next to no ticket sales and half the space and less days means them spending less money.
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>>10125561
is it though? they announced some new cons this year, surely they wouldnt expand if they had money problems
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>>10125672
The 3 day thing seems a sensible change.. I never understood why they did 4 days anyway - not like any other anime con does it and I personally wouldn't want to fork out for four nights of accommodation.
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>>10125724
4 nights for accommodation I think is fine, it’s just that you’d have to travel on the first day of the event or have a 5th night of accommodation.
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>>10125425
Were there many positive opinions last year? I only heard negative ones really, or people shrugging it off after the shit announcement at Kita (what has happened to them btw, officially dead now?)
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>>10126036
They can’t run this year at Warwick cos the building doesn’t exist for most of the cons needs. Don’t think work is due to finish till late 2020.
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>>10126036
I mean unless you got ripped off on buying some expensive dice you probably had a good time at Hibana based on general gullcensus
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No matter what you never use your autism as an excuse to grope someone. My friend has just told me that at Liverpool Comic Con some guy slapped her ass then blamed it on his autism and apparently security said its not their problem
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>>10126235
I heard it was the space being booked ahead of scheduel by others that meant the kita slot wasn't available and by the time it would be it was too late and rennovations would have started.

They wanted to do the 10 year anniversary hard, and could have found other venues in the time they had, but the decision not to do so meant that the majority of staff left.
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>>10126502
The whole Kita team seem to want to step back and have a few years off. I don't see them coming back till 2021 or something stupid
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>>10126593
How do you know that? Pretty sure kitacon said they were returning in 2020 anon?
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>>10126593
Its quite far fetched however I get where you are coming from there hasn't been any movement at all
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>>10126593
>>10126601
We'll just have to see I'm wondering was happening with Amecon too considering the whole breakdown on stage thing wasn't pretty
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If Ame really wanted something to happen, they'd make it happen. It's not as though Warwick is the only venue on this shitty island. If they could run at the Brittania and run the risk of killing the attendees then they could settle to downsize and try a different hotel or uni.
I just wish either Kita or Ame would make some noise that something is going on. I'm sure most of the community are willing to slum it until Warwick returns instead of having nothing for potentially two years.
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Both Ame and Kita lost most of their staff, and they were all part of the older generation who were winding down anyway.
You'd have to hope the remaining staff can build a working committee from the people they trust, or their gophers (which would be terrifying).

We might see one of them in 2020 but not both, and coming back is unlikely after when there has been near radio silence for this long.
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>>10126601
Beacause most of them literally stood down at ame in the closing ceremony and the work being done at Warwick isn’t fininished until autumn 2020.

>>10126502
Renovations started the week after ame. Warwicks website says stage 2 is starting in Easter with the destruction of the cinema/art centre. The project is even called 20:20 so it’s not due to complete until then.
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>>10126662
breakdown on stage?
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>feeling so much regret for not going to amecon and kitacon these past 3 years...
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>>10126487
The security were appalling. The only thjng they actually confronted people about was sitting in front of fire exits. They didn’t care about safety...
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>>10126728
Feedback panel. One of them cried.
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>>10126899
Over what, and how did the audience react?
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>>10126900
Towards the end. Think it was regarding social media and emails. One guy said he had to step back for a bit due to personal attacks and another mentioned the usual real jobs, can’t respond immediately as they are at work etc then got a bit teary. It was towards the end, panel finished about 5 mins later anyway due to time slot. No one commented directly but here a couple of people said if you can’t handle the stresses of whatever it was maybe they shouldn’t be doing it anyway.
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>>10126902

I'm annoyed I didn't go to it after attending most other feedback panels. I didn't see the point because they usually get all defensive about any -constructive- feedback I previously tried to give/trying to find reasoning behind specific choices and figured I'd be wasting my time. However the shit show that happened sounds like it would have been worth the popcorn.
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>>10126902
Not to be a bitch here, but maybe the lack of sympathy for those who volunteer their time is why most of Kita and ame threw in the towel? If they really wanted to run they could have just found another venue, Warwick University is hardly the only venue in the country
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>>10126909
Nah, it was fairly dull until that bit. Stuff about the venue building overrunning work affecting events, accommodation being so over demand to previous events they ran out and other issues which I forget. Likely registration delay. Then they opened floor to questions. That seemed to be mostly a rerun of accommodation or access for disabled people and registrations payment window. Probs the same sort of thing you’d seen before if you are a feedback panel veteran. It didn’t get shouty or defensive as the guy running it was extremely chilled. Too chilled desu. After a diff guy said about having to step back social media for a bit another member of the committee chipped in and came on stage. They then said about work life balance/mortgage/job and how they couldn’t respond as fast as people evidentially liked and welled up. Then things sorta wrapped up. A few people hung around the stage after and asked direct questions as the room was reset but I left to go change for the party.
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>>10126914
bb..but no stone circle to sit in.
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>>10126914

I think a lot of it was to do with the reception that Ame got at Keele. It was a sound location and a lot has improved in recent years. But the attendants were allergic to exercise and walking around between panel rooms, which could most likely be remedied once the construction finished. That's all I could find wrong with it and since then they haven't been back despite the fantastic photo ops and the committee setting up the use of Keele Hall exclusively for the attendants.

As a result they're all afraid of trying anything new. Warwick was highly praised and became prime real estate for cons to run at following Ayacon's demise. AmeChibi was clearly on a tight budget. Why do you think both Kita and Ame claimed it? At that point why even bother to differentiate between the two conventions since they had very little to separate them anymore.

It's frustrating to me because Ame should be fresh faced and ready to go after they got themselves into bother/being unable to run and Kita having to bail them out by running twice and AmeChibi being a smaller event, only for them to have to die back down again.

Cons should have A teams and B teams, so if one person fails to do the job they have someone to fall back on or they can lighten the load and share the weight of responsibilities - especially when it comes to replying to messages or social media. Maybe not for every position but enough that they don't burn out and turn into a mess in the face of criticism.
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>>10126922
So we now have a situation where committees are too fearful of how people will react to change?

Seems that people are just too demanding and selfish. I could see why people would chuck in volunteering their time and just not bother. How depressing
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>>10126922
I wouldn’t call it bail them out. Ame didn’t have a venue, kita ran twice. Ame did the same for aya in 06,07 and 08. They just agree not to run same years.

The window to run a summer con is over 6 weeks. If the venue is booked or another event like tokonatsu or an expo is around the same time you have to factor that in. Likewise what rooms are available at the venue. In the feedback panel the guy said they could have ran on a different weekend but have no onsite accommodation due to another conference on at the time. It’s not just a case of finding a suitable location.
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>>10126928

Pretty much! The issue with that is that things become stagnant, flowing water vs still water and all that shit. Attendants are just too entitled these days and often forget that these people aren't paid to put up with their bullshit. So if it keeps them happy and quiet they'll just keep doing what they've always done instead of trying to better themselves, for the sake of the cons lifespan and the attendees.

I believe in the notion of not fixing something if it isn't broken, but at the moment we have a huge car crash and no survivors, and a good opportunity for the cons to reinvent themselves, especially Kita with the handing over to a new chair who hopefully won't fuck it up.
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>>10126933
You messed up a perfect chance to banepost.
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>>10126928
Everyone knows that there is that bunch of loud vocal weebs that demend they be specially catered for.
But the staff also give way too much leeway and attention to the attendees that cause so much of the drama they can't really expect anything else.

And if you think the staff actually give a fuck about the attendees opinions on how to run the event, or what venue they should take, you're an idiot. They know they will sell tickets wherever they set up and no one will care after the event if they run it properly and make it fun.
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>>10127021
If they don't give a shit then why not run in a different venue? That one doesn't add up anon, they clearly give too much *of* a shit
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>>10127059
Because they couldn't get another venue that everyone agreed on (or that they could afford), after banking on warwick so hard.
What I'm saying is that the decision of what venue they choose is not affected by the attendees opinion, only their own and their funds.
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>>10127064
Ok So you're saying there is only one venue in the UK suitable to hold them?
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>>10127087
Finding a venue is pretty much the hardest part. Also because it's not a standard event because it's not a typical 'conference' nor a 'festival'.
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>>10127232
But there are plenty of universities out there who would love to host an event like that though....
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>>10127303
Who may not have the correct facilities, tech, accommodation needs, party rooms, onsite food, travel links, suitable vid rooms, event rooms and may just be too expensive to rent or insure.

Plus there are 6 weeks or so of summer and they may be insufficient accommodation. Or other events booked using some of the facilities at weekends available and again may be on at the same time as other anime related events

It is not just a case of choosing a central university and rolling with it.
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Dissing cgl
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>>10127568
Need to add on pricing for this too.
I know the kita staff spent weeks looking for other places that had all the options for space and ammenities, also had the licenses to allow the late parties till 3/4am each day, actually wanted a con after finding out what exactly what they were and what went down. Places rarely hit all of those to an acceptable level.
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>>10127087
For pricing, in a central enough location, with decent travel links.
Actually yeah there are very few that actually fit that, when you add in that most of these places will have events going on already, cons do struggle to find places everyone on the staff agrees to.
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>>10127632
They could have just run a smaller hotel con for a year? Not running till 2021 is just lazy. Will half their new and largely untested committee even be interested in running an event by then?
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>>10127637
What venue could they have used?
This sort of stuff was looked into, but the idea of doing the smaller easter con again was always on the table, but people wanted time off, so skip untill anniversary that ended up not happening.

And the new committee will be a gamble since they have nearly all of the positions to fill, they will have to start off on a small one likely or risk tanking it.
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>>10127637
They dont actually have to run. you get that right.
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>>10127694
They don't have to, but it is pretty shitty of them given that this could be time other groups could be looking at doing a summer con instead of relying on a group that likely won't bother in the end
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>>10127707
Then organised and run one then. Nothing will happen at Warwick till 2020 +
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>>10127710
It's considered professional courtesy to let other cons know that the venue will be available, and it means they also wont feel like they are taking away from kita.

People can give suggestions without having to step up and run a con, so don't need to be so defensive.
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>>10126900
At the feedback panel people complained about the poor communication on social media. Like the incident with all the servers going going during registration etc, social media should have been giving people constant updates on what was going on, reassuring worriers and keeping people informed. Turns out the reason there were no updates was because the person in charge of social media is a flake and got too stressed out to fucking post. She then promptly burst into tears at people saying she didn't do her job and ran off stage.

I actually get paid to shitpost on my company's social media profiles, and the most basic level of training is 'keeping people informed is the most important thing'. So it's clear they gave the job to someone who thought it was going to be an easy ego boost, not realising you need to work hard and have a thick skin. Nobody cares about your fucking feelings, only the content you post.
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>>10127717
Hibana domination when?

>>10127735
Shitposting and being paid? The legends are true.
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>>10127735
I had forgotten just how much of a fuck up that all was, I remembered it was bad but this has just reminded me of exactly how much of a clusterfuck it ended up as.
People forget attendees are needy and bitchy, if you can't handle daily drama you can't step up to run social media.
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>>10126036
Didn't hear anything bad about last Hibana, it's more of a con you go to with friends because it's a good hangout.
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>>10127750
The social media side is the best part of my job. It's really satisfying when people DM you with a problem and you're able to help them.

When I'm looking after work experience students their faces light up when I get to how to run social media, because they think it's all going by glamorous selfie taking and being an influencer. It's not, corporate social media is as cynical and clinical as fuck. It's about pandering to your main market (yes, bushinesses can see your personal information and when you're checking our pages) and growing your followers for more exposure. It's about being relatable whilst maintaining a fake persona. The whole thing is hugely manipulative. The main commandments of corporate social media are:

>Post content often
>Use damage control ASAP
>If you can't damage control, at least respond so people think you're doing something
>Don't take things personally

The person running the Amecon social media fucked up on all four of them- I'm guessing she was like the work experience students that thought it would be sparkly fun instead trying to placate hundreds of angry customers at once. Yeah, it may be a fun job, but it's still a job and you still need to be a fucking professional. You don't get the luxuries you get for your personal accounts. You're the public face of an organisation and you need to be damn good at it.
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>>10128320

Most con social media folks do it so they become one of the known faces of the con and get to bask in the percieved popularity of having a few hundred weebs talk about how 'they totally know someone on thr committee'.
They tend to forget it actually involves shit loads of work, it's basically the same as answering endless emails only everyone can see what both sides say.

And 100% agree, they do not understand damage control
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Anyone go to Bournemouth comic Con this weekend?
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>>10128464
Did not even know it was on. Will google as that’s only an hour away.



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