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>>10095496when you remove the collar it looks like something a mormon sister wife would wear.
>>10095496I think my grandmother owns this dress
>>10095512>>10095574Isn't that the point of lolita
>>10095494Ugh. Sheglit always looks either Anabaptist or like a more dark-palette IW. So disappointing.
Is it just me or has Risa developed bulimia cheeks lately? She's been looking a lot more haggard too. I used to like her but it feels like her looks are going.
>>10095644She looks fine.
>>10095644Well, she’s almost 30. It looks like they’re smoothing out some lines on her face but she looks great in less staged photos, certainly better than most of you 30-something’s.
>>10095644>Risa>bulimia>agingWhew someone make a bait bingo card.
>>10095512Yes and with it, it looks pilgrim kei? You got a fuckin problem with that?
>all this Sheglit hatePlebs, all of you.
>>10095644She looks fine
>>10095780I'm amazed at the hate/indifference towards Sheglit, their quality is really great and I'm so glad they're becoming more prominent. Their silhouette mightn't always be cookie-cutter lolita, but they generally cater to a mature, gothic/classic aesthetic which really flatters a pretty broad range of people.
>>10095784Their quality is really nice but I do think a lot of their designs are quite boring for lolita standards. Imo, they fall in a weird place where gothic lolitas might find it too classic for their wardrobe and classic lolitas find it too gothic.
>>10095784Their overdresses are nice and I own some but their newest releases do seem very classic and that doesn't appeal to me personally at all. If/when they go back to gothic I'll consider them but not at the moment.
>>10095775>that over reaction to a simple observationwho pissed in your cheerios this morning?
>>10095784As a gothic girl, I find that they lean into simple IW territory instead of simple Moitie. Also the length isn’t for me.
>>10095644She seems fine to me?
>>10095784I really think it's because 1) They're newer 2) They don't really do iconic prints.Everyone likes to make it out to be they're this big solidfag, but prints are just why most girls buy lolita and it's like a neverending fad. I guess more for us that enjoy quality and an actual gothic brand that doesn't rely on terrible rereleases, anon.
>>10095784Everything is too long and I'm short. There's a reason they went under as BPN/PN (i.e. items priced too high for what you got) and I reckon after a few years Sheglit will die the same way.
>>10095784They're becoming more prominent..? Where?
>>10095894+1 on the length >>10095974They're not new, not even a little bit
Why the fuck does pic related have a 82 waist size
>>10095889Excuse me I'm wearing Sheglit heah!!! Get the jimmies outta ya hoo-ha
>>10095974Sheglit makes prints, they aren't terribleYou should check out secondhand Sheglit to get an idea of how the brand has grown
>>10095788>>10095827>>10095894Agree with all of these. None of their stuff speaks to me enough to want to buy it. It's not even that they don't do prints, it's just the dowdy classic leaning mary poppins looking dresses aren't my thing. If I'm after solids I'd go to Moitie or Boz. Besides the colour palette the stuff they put out right now is hardly gothic. I can just think of a dozen more things that would fit my wardrobe that I would buy before a new sheglit piece even comes to mind.
>>10095974Nope, it's because of the length. I would buy pic related and a couple of other dresses if it wasn't too long for me. I hate getting things altered.
>>10096026Their quality is really good for what you get though. I've never owned BPN but the construction of sheglit is solid and very details oriented. I'm inclined to agree with >>10095974, most lolitas despite insisting they love prints don't want to dump money for a nonprint.Also I'm fairly short (160cm) and honestly their stuff doesn't make me look stumpy at all.
>>10096126Sheglit is actually my favorite brand now. They're filling the space that excentrique left behind, and classic brands that fell off the face of the Earth. For those brands we all seem to hold sacred, ie VM, MM, and MMM, the nothing but rereleases business model is boring af. Sheglit is coming up strong and I'm really happy. Their whole aesthetic is basically Disney's haunted mansion and I'm into it
>>10096116This doesn't look lolita at all, this looks like a Gunne Sax dress someone dyed. More mori than anything desu. Cute, just not lolita.
>>10096139>More mori than anything Yikes, anon
>>10095974I'm not a fan of Sheglit and it has nothing to do with whether or not they have prints. I don't wear prints at all unless they're small and unobtrusive.Their blouses are nice. Their corsets and vests are nice. But Sheglit's skirts and dresses are just really, REALLY fucking boring.It's like if they're aiming for matronly, they don't quite go far enough to become charming like Mur Melche or Pink House. If they're aiming for elegant solids, their cuts and designs are never quite as elegant as MM or VM. If they're aiming for gothic, a ton of other brands are doing better gothic pieces. Their prints are just the same crap as every other gothic brand. And so on.
How many of you gulls have experience with Melikestea?I'm finally biting the bullet and investing in a new petticoat and I'm trying to choose between the Melikestea cotton candy petticoat and the hybrid poof monster. For context, I mainly wear 2010 style pastel vomit AP dresses. I'm fairly certain I'm going to go with organza instead of voile since that's what I'm used to, but I'd love to hear opinions from people who have bought her petticoats before.Any pictures of Melikestea petticoats would be greatly appreciated!
>>10096156I have the hybrid poof monster, but in tulle - bought it back in 2015 and it's still a monster.
>>10096156I have two of the voile ones. They are not as instantly poofy as organza, but they add bulk like no other and they are soft and easily washable.
>>10096156I have a voile one. It keeps it's poof even after being stored for long periods, and it's so soft and comfortable. Good if you aren't fond of the texture of tule.
Reminder to save your Flickr albums. They will start deleting pictures tomorrow.
>>10096397what? why are they doing this?
>>10096407Because corporates are hellbent on deleting everything pre social media. Aka because they're retarded and think it makes people pay for pro accounts. They will delete pictures of accounts with over 1000 pictures/videos starting from the oldest ones. I took this entire day off and cancelled my plans just to save as much as I can, but god I'm so fucking mad. Fuck the neo internet.
>>10096139You don't look like a lolita
>>10096410Doing the lord's work, anon. Will you post the pics you saved anywhere?
>>10096146>a ton of other brands are doing better gothic pieces.Which ones?>>10096410Omg I hope there aren't old lolita scans on there or something.
>>10096419Nayrt, scans aren't really the issue, you can find plenty archived on lolitahistory.com, but looking around on flickr I'm finding some old street snaps that I've never seen before, like the one anon posted >>10096410 which imo should definitely be saved.
>>10096420I don't care about streetsnaps sorry. I want to save Herajika's entire wardobe and old Cutie scans. But I'm at work so I can't.
>>10095496Personally I this the issue with Sheglit is these neckline cuts. High, round, simple and buttoned in the middle all the way down. On top of being very matronly, they don't look good on anyone. I would have bought their coats if they didn't have the same issue.
>>10096451Is it really such a problem if these OPs come with detachable collars though? Those necklines on their own don't look very good, agreed on that, but if there's an option to wear them with different collars then it's fine.
>>10096417I'm not sure about that since they aren't mine. I've created folders for pictures that were posted in groups and folders by individual private albums (who aren't directly downloadable) of people who went to harajuku. I just want to save them for now.>>10096419Like >>10096420 said, scans aren't the problem. You can still find full download links that are working on livejournal and on magazine blogs. But there's a shit ton of street snaps, meetup pictures, coords, detail shots, photoshoots and other interesting stuff that isn't posted anywhere else.And not only for lolita but also for any other streetstyle like gyaru, decora and visual kei.In fact, there's so much it's basically impossible to save most it.. I'm going through the group "Lolita Fashion :: ロリータ - NOT A PLACE FOR PORN !" right now and only finished 10 pages out of 87 in the past 2 hours.>>10096423If the author put them in a non-copyrighted album you can download them all at once.
>>10096461Sounds like you should write a script. Are you doing all this manually?
>>10096468Yeah, but I'm not well versed in that. And yes, mostly, unless they put the pictures in an album and made that available for download. I searched for bulk downloading tools but the ones I tried either don't work or just download albums in bad resolutions, not groups, fotostreams, favorites or the whole content of a user.
>>10096473Ay Anon I've got some time so if there's some links for saving you want to drop feel free. I'm not rolling in storage space though so I'd have to be able to dump somewhere.
>>10096499That would be great!This group has a lot of snaps: https://www.flickr.com/groups/76733810@N00/pool/page60You could look through it starting from the last page (which is page 65 with an account or 60 without an account) and save what you deem interesting. If you have a flickr/yahoo account there will be even more pictures visible. But not all pictures are downloadable. Usually you can click the picture and on the bottom right (next to the favorite and share button) is a download button. If you click it and get a range of sizes to choose from, it's downloadable. If there's only a "show every size" window, it's not downloadable and you'd have to work around that (like installing a browser extensions like "Image Downloader" for chrome), but you really don't have to put in that effort. I'd be glad about any help!For uploading them I'd recommend https://imgur.com/ they are easy to use and share.
>>10096451They don't do those cuts so often. I love buttons so I hope they do more like this.
>>10096461Actually a ton of magazine links on livejournal don't work anymore. Anyways what if you just saved them to pinterest?
>>10096156I have the cotton candy petticoat in organza, and it's huge. It's perfect for my AP dresses.
>>10096522That sucks, but then again the last time I visited them was at least 1-2 years ago. Maybe some links on http://jmagazinearchives.blogspot.com/2012/10/gothic-lolita-bible.html still work? We should start a magazine zip sharing thread soon. I'm sure I still have some keras, glbs and gyaru magazines on my usb sticks somewhere.>Anyways what if you just saved them to pinterest?The resolution and size would be worse than the direct downloads, but you're right, that's an option.
>>10096517I actually got started already! I found a group that went back to 2005 so I figured I might as well (vintage western community mostly but that's fine by me). What's the philosophy on pretty ita comm pics? Part of me wants to keep them, but it's also tempting to let them go gently into the night simply because there's no shortage of them even now. Btw if you're using Chrome you don't need an extention to download the ones that are supposedly blocked, just click "view all sizes", hover over the image, right click, and hit "inspect" and a direct link to the image should be close to the top of the window. More involved than just downloading an extention, but my computer is old enough I don't want to bog it down. Imgur is fantastic by the by, I use them for whatever I want to post to LJ. I'll dump stuff there and link here in the general or if we make a dedicated thread. Do you think the Lolitahistory galleries would consider adding the images we collect? I'd like them to be more accessable than just links shared among seagulls.
>>10096532Can you share the album you're looking at now please? I'm doing some digging of my own and I'm more interested in older content.
>>10096533https://www.flickr.com/groups/egl/ is what I'm currently going through! It's mostly old western comm, plenty of questionable clothing choices, but kinda nostalgic.
>>10096536Also this was labeled Skye and Sanyu and is from 2007. So maybe it's Princess Skye?
>>10096539it is princess skye
>>10096532Awesome! I save the ita pics too since I personally think they're endearing and.. they just don't make em like this anymore. But I totally get what you mean, if it's a lot it might be better to let them go.And thank you for the tip with chrome! >Do you think the Lolitahistory galleries would consider adding the images we collect? I'd like them to be more accessable than just links shared among seagulls.Yes, I'm very sure they would. If I remember correctly that site belongs to rainedragon who is an information hoarder herself. I'd like them to be more accessable too but like I said, the thing with the ownership is a slippery slope. A lot of photographers hate their pictures being shared on third party websites and even worse without credit.
>>10096544Cool, I'm not a particularly big fan of her so I wasn't sure.
>>10096539Yes, that's her!
>>10096536Bless you anon, I hope you find your dream dress for ¥1000
>>10096546That is true, and with a lot of images being ~10 years old crediting can be awfully difficult. I'll try and keep track of at least who posted things I guess, and if RD decides that it's a can of worms she doesn't want to deal with that's fine.>>10096554From your lips to Mana's ears gullfriend. Enjoy!
On the subject of archiving old snaps, I've been thinking about going through all my old hard drives and consolidating my files. I should have some images saved from 2004 and on from egl and wherever else. I'm not sure it's a lot, but there may very well be lost content.It's overwhelming though because I probably have about 10 different hard drives from different computers plus externals that may not even work.Any tips on such a project of accessing and consolidating this stuff is helpful...
Off topic but does anyone else feel empty after having found their DD? I finally bought mine and although I'm enjoying wearing it, it feels boring opening up LM and not having the feeling of what if today is the day my dress shows up.
>>10096410>>10096397Can you point us to any albums we should save? I just searched "lolita" on Flickr and I already see a lot that should probably be archived. Western lolita pictures are important as well and there's no reason they should be lost to the ether.
>>10096688How is that off-topic in the lolita general?Just stop going to lacemarket every day, you don't need to anymore. Be careful of shopping addiction.
>>10096697There's quite a lot and I think your method is good on itself. If you go through the lolita search flickr and save images you think are important that's already great. But one thing to pay attention is the user. Do they have under 1000 pictures listed in their profile page (the number is usually listed under their names) or are they pro accounts? Then you don't have to prioritize them, they won't be deleted for now.
>>10096688I went to buy my dream dress today only to find it had sold 2 minutes before. lmao, kill me.
>>10096410Shit, I'm not home to save all Kammie's photos. Hopefully most of them are archived elsewhere.
>>10096781Hey Anon, I'm uploading a batch to an imgur album right now for you! I'm sure we have duplicates and such so that'll have to be checked.
>>10096793>>10096781https://imgur.com/a/IFJ5jVH for the first batch I could save before my computer started complaining. Mostly 2005-2008 give or take. Saved a couple deco pics too because nostalgia.
>>10096697>>10096781But for reference, interesting pages could be:Groups:>Lolita Fashion :: ロリータhttps://www.flickr.com/groups/lolitas/>Fruits - Japanese street fashionhttps://www.flickr.com/groups/harajuku/>Harajukuhttps://www.flickr.com/groups/76733810@N00/>Elegant Gothic Lolitashttps://www.flickr.com/groups/40346397@N00/>Japanese Fashion styleshttps://www.flickr.com/groups/jfashion/>Japanese street style!!https://www.flickr.com/groups/40624098@N00/pool/page403>"Harajuku" Wardrobe Remixhttps://www.flickr.com/groups/1013441@N20/pool/page8>Sew Lolitahttps://www.flickr.com/groups/sewloli/>Japanese Street Chichttps://www.flickr.com/groups/351960@N21/>Japanese Rockhttps://www.flickr.com/groups/36521967796@N01>◇ Visual Kei ◇https://www.flickr.com/groups/visual_kei/Albums:>Japan Expo 2009 (or any other lolita album of that user)https://www.flickr.com/photos/shorylsweetloli/sets/72157620644795018>Harajuku 原宿https://www.flickr.com/photos/martyna/albums/72157594171534783>Japanhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_hopkins/sets/72157604594231025>Meet Lolitahttps://www.flickr.com/photos/shorylsweetloli/sets/72157603398351928>Most Interestinghttps://www.flickr.com/photos/tobilg/sets/72157600079079029>>10096793Godspeed anon, thank you so much! I will do the same once flickr starts nuking. And yeah, I think so too. The both groups we used seemed to be the two major lolita ones at the same time.
>>10096791Oof, I'll go and save her albums then just in case you don't make it home in time.>>10096797Amazing, you chose the best ones! Scrolling though it really gives a good feeling of that time..
>>10096798I went through Harajuku and EGL groups just for reference. I started skippping pics that had been cross-posted to the 'not for porn' collection though since you seemed to be working on that one.
>>10096530You could try put them on Google Photos for the time being. You get 15GB is space with every Google account if you save the original files or unlimited space if you save them at a lower resolution.
>>10096786anon are you me? i FINALLY found a masquerade theater jsk in red on closetchild (the site even had the matching headbow). i went to buy it but both were sold out. *cries in lolita*
>>10096808I'm glad you like the selections! I feel a bit odd though, most of what I'm saving is biased heavily towards sweet even though I'm a goth… Maybe it's just because sweet is better represented or gothic had died down by the mid-2000s? I also feel strange leaving out all the cosplay and Vkei styling, along with the Greaser/Yankee styling.
>>10096925Boo to us both anon. I'm sorry. Hopefully we find them again and can get them this time.
>>10096688You just need to redirect that energy, checking the shopping sites becomes a habit when you're hunting down dream items. Organise a photoshoot with it, try dressing it up and down, and just stop shopping for a month.
>>10096688Yes. I found my DD after years of searching, only to realise it looked awful on me. I decided to sell my DD, along with 90% of my wardrobe because I don't want to wear prints anymore. I've been stalking the sales for months and haven't found a thing. It sucks.
Wunderwelt.. what is this?
>>10097213>>10097213TREMBLE BEFORE THE MIGHTY CROWN OF BREAD and behold its yeasty gloryAlso did you notice that it weighs nearly 1.5kg? Ouch.
From Katsucon's schedule book.
>>10097218is it made from real bread?
>>10097328Has potential to be interesting, personally I do think that newbies should know about the subculture surrounding the fashion... but it also has potential to be disastrous and cringey. Not sure how to feel about it.
>>10097213That ass dough
>>10097384There was a brooch someone sold that was an actual cookieWish I had the pics
>>10097427Oh fuck I remember that too, iirc correctly it was a real fucking cookie with clear polish on it or something similar? Time to do a bit of digging
>>10097427here's the threadhttps://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/7620309/
>>10097428>iirc correctlyI'm a dumbass.
How often does Atelier Boz release new things?
>>10096042That's a normal size
How do I keep kuro outfits from just looking like layers of black fabric?
Did anyone save the gallery's on avantgauze? I know a lot of the images are still there because I can find them through pinterest but the links to the gallery itself don't work so I don't know how many images there are and how many actually got deleted years ago
I just saw this. What the fuuck--Btw I just reported it
>>10097384>>10097427>>10097428>>10097429I remembered that thread, that's why I asked if it's real bread after anon mentioned the weight of the headpiece being 1.5kg
>>10097536I'm the one who mentioned the weight (according to the lm listing it is 1400g) and I hope it is real bread. If I were going to make a bread crown I would start with something lightweight to build it around (styrofoam ball or a partially inflated balloon perhaps) but at that weight it is probably full of treasures such as actual bread, secret documents, stolen jewels, insects, recording equipment, or a miniature cactus. Whatever it's made from, wearing a headband that heavy sounds like an instant headache.
>>10096042wtf really? 2 of my skirts from boz barely fucking fit me at 65cm
>>10096042>>10097607I think sometimes they release different sizes of the same release at different times
>>10097502none of those characters are even lolis or in lolita????>not that would make it better but yikes
>>10097630The most funny thing to me was when I checked the profile and said Wunderwelt was following it. I know they're probably using an auto-follower but still lmfao.
>>10096126I have a BPN jacket, and it’s the most well constructed thing in my wardrobe, normie stuff included. Not even my vintage suit jacket can stand up to that thing.
>>10097213Who's going to buy it and become the Bread Queen?
>>10095784I’m classic and I really like what I’ve seen of sheglit, but I haven’t owned any. I try to stay away from synthetic materials and everything I’ve seen for sale is majority polyester.
>>10097724Biscuit-chan thats who
>>10097213The saga between seagulls and bread continues
>>10096410Thank you anon, I logged into my old account that I made in 2012 and found a ton of art of my old gaia account and photos of my dead cat </3
>>10097501just look for them through archive? most of the magazine scans work.
>>10097213ill buy and eat it
Be My Valentine is coming out on Saturday.I'm pretty disappointed that it's only an OP, JSK, and headdress. Plus, the JSK cut is pretty meh. At least it's not high-waisted this time though.
>>10097798IT'S COMING, BABY!!!!!
>>10097782Nayrt but the brand galleries are gone
>>10097798I thought this was berry-themed for like 10 mins.>Reds really the only good colorway
>>10097798I submitted a request for the red jsk with Tenshi. I’m so excited! I’ve been meaning to own a Valentineseque dress and I’m glad it’s an AP one. The cut is plain but I like that it’s not high-waisted.
>>10097798Personally think this is fugly but what I really don't get is why brands put out holiday themed releases that won't even arrive in time for the holiday they're for
>>10096772Thanks for the warning, I could definitely see that happening. >>10097158I'll do that. Looks like not checking listings for a bit will help. >>10097186Sorry about that anon, I hope you find something you like soon. Don't give up!
Out of curiosity, I went through Hanayoku's Lace Market feedback, picked some random dresses, and realized they somehow got their hands on: 20 AP Princess Cat dresses 7 AP Dolly Cat dresses9 AP Baked Sweets dresses4 AP Horror Garden dressesMultiples of these prints are currently listed and they just reuse proof photos. In the case of the two dolly cats they have listed, both are the same colorway. They have multiple listings from 2017 that are brand replicas. I think all the duplicate dress owners are getting scammed harder than we previously thought.
>>10097876Clearly they are another scalping reseller snatching shit off of 2nd hand sites now that they aren’t allowed to act as a Taobao reseller anymore.
>>10097880The AP replica flood didn't start until mid 2018 and I put my money on replicas, due to the previously replicas they sold and because only the same few colorways and special sets tend to pop up. One of the buyers left feedback in 2017 about an early replica they sold her and about how she asked for a refund and they were initially unwilling, until she told them she knew it was a fake.
>>10097888>she asked for a refund and they were initially unwilling, until she told them she knew it was a fakethis should be grounds to be permabanned everywhere, LM mods are absolutely useless
>>10097891This is one of the print replicas they sold intially. Hanayoku posted it as titled it as AP Dress. I agree about LM mods. As a print replica, this should've never been sold on the site.
>>10097838Nobody wants to buy something Valentine's day themed in November
>>10097894how fucking disgusting. chestnutlili has some big balls, and is a big idiot.
>>10097495For who? It’s huge.
>>10097798I really love the animals, but I have zero red in my wardrobe. I have no idea if I want to get this
Another Hooked on the Look video featuring a lolita came out. This is @genesisoftheend on IG and so far the only video that ACTUALLY features a lolita, I think?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKFbnmhnk9g
>>10097983Does anyone know who her friend is? She's funny.>Mom look it's a vampire!
Sorry if this is old news and I missed it, but did DreamHolic's EU store close or move? Every link for it just brings me to the Storenvy front page, but the US site still seems to be up.
>>10097495Unless you're very tall or something, it's really not.
>>10097905No one wants to wear something valentine’s themed in june thoigh
>>10097983This is actually pretty good. Nice taste in dresses and nice coords too.
>>10097905Idk about valentines but I have no problem buying halloween themed stuff in August. It gives me a good window to wear the stuff leading up to the end of october and gets me excited for it. I'm really into gothic though, for someone who's really into sweet I get wearing cutesy candy prints to lead up to Valentines.
>>10097876>>10097891I have reported them to the LM mods. In my experience, once they are aware of something they take care of it
>>10098126General note, I think we'd all do well to report dodgy things on LM when we see them, whether it be print replicas or shitty wish dresses. Once the LM mods are alerted to something they seem to deal with it pretty quickly.
>>10097838Because aside from a select few, most holiday releases fit with other common lolita themes anyway. This is just hearts and animals, sweet lolitas can wear it year-round. It’s the same with most Halloween releases, depending on the print gothic or sweet lolitas can wear them any time. A lot of the Christmas and Easter prints fit season-long themes. I can think of very few dresses which are too holiday-specific to wear only close to that holiday (the latest AP Christmas print that looked like wrapping paper for example)
>>10098103yeah, but they'll impulse buy it better when it's closer to the holiday and once the brand has the $$ why would the care>>10098117Halloween is a special case because there's lots of lolitas who wear spooky stuff all year round
>>10097838Newsflash APs customers are in Japan. It releases on the 9th.
what is going on with tekko’s fashion guest announcements or lack thereof? The con is in 2 months and they haven’t announced any japanese fashion guests.
>>10098349It's an anime con lol not a tea-party
>>10098367lol you’ve obviously never attended.... they have a lolita fashion show and tea party every year, fuck off loser
>>10097497I don't see the issue with that?If you want to create more visual interest, focus on coording with consistent or complimentary textures or fabric weights. I'm personally a slut for well-planned kuro. Get all the details in line, even for your simple or casual coords.
>>10097706honestly, BPN is my favorite brand.
>>10097798fuck yes, finally a good looking print!the jsk in red is the winner. hope there'll be a limited fully shirred version.
>>10097970You can coord it with white and sax too.
>>10097983This is alright but kind of unremarkable. I like her hairstyle, a bit of a shame that her coord wasn't equally rococo-inspired but she's still lovely; but overall, it's not exactly an interesting doc, at least in my opinion.
>>10098256But nobody wears hearts, candy, roses or cute animals year round...?
>>10098128I reported Hanayoku/Chestnutlili with proof (because they got me) :’)
>>10097894Great, I’m scared now since I’ve purchased dresses from Hanayoku twice. I mean, my dresses don’t look like replicas and have the AP tags intact but still, I can’t help but be paranoid.
>>10097876what brand replicas? I bought a dress from her in 2017, which ones are replicas?
>>10098522Same, I’m hoping they aren’t as it’s a pretty damn good dress and looks exactly as AP. Hell even the tags look similar but I’m still a paranoid android
I have a huge folder of what many call "2010-2012" ott sweet as its what got me into the fashion, plus some modern shots that fit.(to me) Most of what I have saved is from Tumblr however. I'm kind of glad I did because I have found a lot of my older reblogs being deleted by the new tumblr bot..?
god... it's so sad to see her look this weird and chunky. maybe she will sell off her things when she realizes lolita no longer suits her.
>>10098666I don't think she looks THAT bad anon. Yeah chunkier than she used to be but she's still smaller than a lot of girls we see try and pull of Lolita.
>>10098522>>10098529Could you post a photo of the care tag of from the dress you got from hanayoku? Also I think the name hanayoku goes on all three of their accounts is a man’s name and it’s also the name of a reallly popular chinese comedian.
>>10098666>>10098684this^ tbqh, she needs a better hair style
>>10096397I heard Flickr is extending the deadline to March 12th, so there's still time to backup images
>>10098071Just order from their Taobao it’s half the price
>>10098456Exactly, besides the name of the print there's nothing about it that's specifically valentines themed and can't be worn anywhere else. It's just regular AP sweet, not like it's a christmas print or something.
>>10098685This is the best I could do since the lighting in my house is shit
>>10098685I know some AP items are made in China so this doesn’t really worry me... I still had a mini heart attach when I saw this though.
>>10098685These are from both dresses I bought from them. Seems legit though?
>>10098747That is so strange. I don’t have an extra made in China tag in any of my AP dresses. Usually it’ll state that on the other side of the care tag. Does anyone else have a tag like that on their dresses?
>>10098750I've never seen that tag on any of my AP either. It's usually printed on the main tag.
>>10098693Agreed, the type of bang she likes isn't a good fit. I really think if she matured up her makeup a tad it would help as well. She likes super sweet styles, but they (specifically the makeup and hair types) don't look the best on her.
>>10098748what dresses anons can compare for you
>>10098769Decoration Dream OP and Memorial Cake JSK, I’m not sure there are replicas of either though? DD maybe but I’ve never seen a MC replica.
>>10098746>>10098747>>10098748Thank you for these. I agree with >>10098750 , I’ve never seen a tag like that in my dresses and it usually is printed on the main tag.Pic attached is an newer piece’s tag.
>>10098778Thanks for posting these- what does this mean, then? Because I’m pretty sure the dresses in question, there are no replicas for. I’m puzzled and slightly worried.
>>10098747I'd be worried about this one desu. None of my AP has any of this type of tag and I have only bought from the brand.
>>10098779I’d politely message the seller and state that you received an item that may be a replica from them. I’d explain the tag and see what they have to say.
>>10098790Here’s the brand tag from that same dress- do replicas normally have these? I don’t think this one is, but if it is I’m really not going to be happy at all....
>>10098779Does anything else about the dress seem off?I don't know if I would worry. I did not see this tag on any of my ap either, but I also saw that they all had really different tags.I would be more concerned about it it were one of the dozens of princess cats. Hanayouki doesn't have a habit of selling masses of decoration dream. Where would they get only one replica?I wonder if it's possible they can get factory rejects or something. From what I understand it's fairly common in China.
>>10098775I can't vouch for the decoration dream OP tags for certain so hopefully another anon that owns the OP can contribute that to be certain, but I own the back frill JSK in yellow that I bought from mercari and this is what my tags look like- mine is apparently made in the Philippines and doesn't have an extra tag like that- but of course they could have just been manufactured in completely separate factories being different cuts. I did buy an AP dress from hanayoku last year before I realised they were reselling, and as far as I can tell everything looks genuine and has all the tags, the lace and print quality and alignment is all up to AP standards, so hopefully it's just a case of them moving from reselling taobao to reselling stuff they got cheap off secondhand sites- but it's still shifty they sell so many of the same dress series and don't provide reliable proof images. I've owned a decent variety of AP dresses and haven't noticed an extra 'made in china' tag like that before.
>>10098804No, not that I can see. Border prints don’t seem off as the lace is standard AP quality- I’ve purchased new pieces straight from AP pretty frequently, so I’m familiar with how things are *supposed* to look and feel. But yeah no, nothing seems off to me about these dresses. I never thought about factory rejects- that would make a lot of sense though. I’d be incredibly depressed if I found out I accidentally purchased a replica, but I’m hoping worst case scenario it’s an AP reject? Not sure what to think
>>10098797I've heard of replica sellers buying fake tags that seem pretty genuine. I don't know if it's a replica, but a tag isn't necessarily proof, sadly.
>>10098812Damn, that’s pretty outrageous and I’ve never heard of them doing that. I did compare the tag to pieces I’ve bought straight from AP and they look identical though.
>>10098810I have Decoration Dream OP, I'll take pics when I get home
>>10098812>>10098816Not lolita but I remember seeing a few years back that you can literally buy a huge pile of fake lizlisa tags for like a couple dollars. They're easy to spot when put next to a real tag, I assume with AP it's the same.
>>10098779they could easily remove the tag from a legitimate dress and sew it onto a fake. Try looking up the product code on the tag and compare it to lolibrary?
>>10098832Thank you for reminding me of that- this is for the dress in question with the extra Made in China tag. Looks like the last 4 digits match up, but I’m not sure about what the first few represent.
>>10098843I've seen the extra made in China tag before. I think it was on one of my AP blouses.
>>10098797I know it sucks, but I have heard of replica sellers even replicating tags. Not so much in lolita but in other fashions and even other types of products. I wonder if other people have this same dress as you, who bought directly from the brand or other reputable sources and can check theirs.
>>10098830I wouldn't know how good the AP ones are. I remember a controversy about Oo Jia selling a fake dress with one of the fake ap tags on it. I think it's fine from the pictures OP is sharing. I've gotten some weird tags on my brand dresses. I hope you figure it out 100 percent.
>>10098666She just needs to lose some weight. It's really not that bad compared to some girls I've seen.
>>10098884This is true, I bought what I thought were brandless gold jeans on aliexpress and they arrived with a full set of pretty legit looking Balmain tags. I was like waitwut
>>10098811I've yet to see a replica that can truly "pass" under close scrutiny, so if you're experienced with the brand and nothing looks off I'd doubt it's a replica
>>10098894The dream sky jsk? I remember that, it was like a sample piece that came from the same factory AP uses to make their dresses or something, and it had different buttons on it. Actually thought that version was cuter than what AP ended up doing honestly.
>>10098517Well it seems like they either deleted their stuff or a mod took action?
>>10098843>>10098747Here you go. Memorial Cake in blue and white, both jsk, and they both have the Made in China tag. Along with a closeup of the custom lace, as that's that part I find replicamakers seem to mess up the most on. The fabric should be thick cotton twill as well, but really I think you're fine -- Memorial Cake came out before the really good replicamakers realised they can make money from lolita, and then afterwards it's no longer a popular print.I think if you bought from her a few years ago you're probably safe, she needed to build up some feedback so that people would think her stuff was legit and not fakes. So at the beginning at least she'd be shipping out real stuff to make sure her account isn't taken down before she can start raking in cash from the noobs.
>>10098666Let’s be real, lolita never suited her.
>>10099097Bless you anon, I almost had a panic attack. And yes it’s still made of the thick cotton and custom lace and everything. Probably am still not going to purchase from them in the future just to be on the safe side. But thank you so much
Looks like a new IW release is on the way.
>>10099196It also comes in grey.
>>10099196Ugh, another awkwaddly long dress. Hate this trend.
>>10099212Mte, long dresses make me feel like an old lady and I'm 25
new seraphim dress
>>10099076Nah they have one item up right now.
What's the best way to buy lolita magazines if you live in Europe? I feel like shipping will be 10x the amount the magazine cost, and you end up having to pay customs over shipping?
>>10099234That's beautiful. Speaking on Seraphim, does anyone have any experience with their coats? I'm looking at the ones they currently have in their shop and they're ¥50 000 and linen? Are they worth it?
>>10099099This. I love Lor but she's never looked as good in Lolita as someone like Peachie or Tyler.
>>10099278Most magazines are below €22, so as long as you buy individual pieces, you don’t have to pay customs. But shipping is a thing. People often forget that those magazine can weight quite a lot.If you want to buy multiple magazines, it might be cheaper to have a shopping service buy them and let them lower the value of the packet, but I warn you for the weight. I bought a lot of magazines in Japan and the total weight ended up being near the 20kg!
>>10099299You have to pay taxes/customs for the total cost including shipping. If the magazine is 20 but shipping is also 20, you have to pay the tax % over 40 euro.
>>10099279I think a lot of the cost is because they only produce very few and make them in Japan themselves
>>10099212I love it, it's way more flattering on most people
>>10099279I think that's a normal price for a coat in general. But I don't own anything from them.
>>10099198Is it me or has Misako lost weight and gotten better at makeup? At one point she had some weird frog bulgy eyes going on now and now she looks a lot younger
>>10099076Weird af but they have two listings on Hanayoku and all the same listings on Chestnutlili. I wonder what the mods will do.
>>10099418its just filters/photoshop. she is in her 30s.
>>10098746Is this princess cat? I fucking bought one from her and now I’m paranoid :(
>>10096781Does anyone know why they are wearing the sashes or what they say? I'm so curious
>>10099212Cry moar. You have the entire back catalogue of lolita to choose from, let the tallfags have their time.
>>10099278Customs are free for magazines and books.
>>10099282Yeah, I agree. I love her, she's so knowledgeable now and she produces some good content and coords well, but she just doesn't suit sweet and she never has.
Who’s that gothic lolita that never stops whining and has a fugly trans girlfriend?
It's Decoration Dream OP, anon
>>10097983this was soothing to watch.I want to send this to my parents, I wish they would be more excited about my AMAZING hobby. maybe I'd visit them more lol
i’m looking for blouses (either chiffon or cotton) with a standing or square collars, and preferably no buttons up the front, but sometimes it feels like it’s nothing but peter pans and bows and quality on blouse material is so hard to judge without having seen them in person...does anyone have surface spell’s dancing chiffon roses blouse (attached) and can comment on the quality? and/or recommend other brands that have something similar?
>>10099586Wtf. Go visit your parents
>>10099282I feel like Tyler has man face just as much as Lor does.
>>10099577>>10099110Hopefully this is helpful, this is the black decoration dream OP
>>10099636Well shit...Anyway here it is
>>10099598>sometimes it feels like it’s nothing but peter pans and bows Stop looking at sweet brands. Try sheglit, moitie, boz and possibly aatp. You're kinda constrained with current releases if you don't want buttoned up but there are a few out there and probably way more secondhand.
>>10099622but at least Tyler tries to do her makeup in a way that flatters her face, unlike whatever the hell it is that Lor is usually doing.
>>10098666oh screw off. lolita is a fashion that works for variable sizes and lolita absolutely still suits her. my issue is her current style direction is fricking weird and I have no clue what her inspo is. I am hoping she is in a transitional phase and that her make-up starts matching her coords and becomes more flattering. I like her experiments and I want to see more attention to detail from her.that being said, I can also screw off because she can wear whatever and who am I to tell her to dress for my pleasure?
>>10099282>>10099508I really disagree. I think Lor looks great when she's not being super experimental with her makeup. she looks great in more primary colors. I like her in this type of sweet and sailor. cute and fun but not sugary or hime sweet, which I personally don't think she's quite figured out how to master flattering styling and makeup for.
>>10099686NAYRT, I agree she looks better, but 'great' is a bit of a stretch. Nonetheless, she should wear what she wants, I don't care for anons griping what she should and shouldn't wear.
>>10099686Seconded, the coord on the left is especially cute on her. It's not perfect by any means, but it suits her.
>>10099599we live in the same city and it's not like I hate them. they're just annoyingly old-fashioned and steamroll every conversation. My mom only likes my super mature maidenly classic stuff and my dad thinks lolita in general is too provocative. he's a lost cause
>>10099686Does anyone know how tall she is?
>>10099708I feel like I've heard her say she's 5"4' but I dunno. her gf is an amazon compared to her.
>>10098456and...? Are you sure that no one wants to wear this dress year round?
>>10099715This looks pretty bad.
>>10098666Oh come on anon don't be an ass, she looks fine.
>>10098695Where did you hear that? People in the help forum are already panicking, lol.>>10097778Np I'm glad you were able to save them in time. A lot of people saved similar personal pictures in their accounts and never received/read flickrs announcement emails, it's an absolute shame. There will be many bad surprises soon..>>10096809Yes, though I branched out all over the place when the deadline came near. Just save what you can, the more people have them saved, the better.>>10096926Haha, same. But to be fair the amount of gothic was surprising little in the groups, it's probably like you said, it sweet just started their reign. Don't worry about the vkeis and yankees, I have them saved, some videos of them dancing too! The greaser pictures were so lively, they are really nice.
>>10099715Gradient doesn't work with how they layered the damn chiffon. Ruins the look which is a shame, this would be great with slightly better design choices like opaque material or tiers that are continuous instead of overlapped
>>10098695Nvm just read it myself. Awesome, that's enough time to archive every little bit.
>>10097798This might be just me being blind but it looks high waisted actually, just not as high as the op
>>10099099That's part of the reason I like her--it doesn't suit her, but she loves it and that's what matters. I think that's really inspiring.
>>10099923Honestly looking back at old street snaps and the origins of lolita, the girls that always look slightly out of place and less like picture perfect dolls that clearly really love the fashion are the most inspiring to me. Some gulls talk like she's some obese hag ripping the seams in her honey cake but she seems to really care about the fashion and the community. Yes her coords aren't perfect and she tries too hard to be nice to everyone but she has a lot of experience in the fashion, and her recent content such as the documentary videos are enjoyable to watch and a far more productive contribution to this community than a zillionth AP haul. Maybe it's being friends with Tyler that's had such a good influence on her content, but I've thoroughly been enjoying it lately. She's far more likeable than she used to be. I hate to WK but gulls saying she needs to quit because she gained a few pounds and doesn't 'suit' an alternative and already extremely niche fashion that she clearly really loves is a bit much. Sure she isn't the cutest but who in this world perfectly suits lolita? Besides our lord and saviour Mana himself?
Thinking about reserving something from Lief's newest series, I've got a lot of questions. Have any EU gulls ordered from them directly - will I get nabbed by customs or is there some sort of SS/reseller I can use for them? How is the quality of Lief's pieces generally, are they worth the price?
Hey anons, so the other anon got her wish with Tenderesse being one of the top 3 dresses for JetJ's rerelease poll. Can you help out and vote for Dragon Chan? At least it won't be another cat dress (as much as I like them, we don't need 2!)I appreciate it.http://juliette-et-justine.com/vote201902?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=190208
>>10099923I'm not convinced she loves it after her trying to wear it all day video.
>>10100023I think she was trying to be relatable with her ~lolita at heart~ subscribers more than anything. I don't want to believe she is that dumb.
>>10100023She was dumb and tried that on a hot summer day. That doesn’t change that she likes the fashion.
>>10100023Stop gatekeeping so hard holy shit, it was a for-fun challenge.
>>10100055Nayrt but that video basically helped perpetuate the misconception that lolita is inherently uncomfortable and can't be worn for extended periods of time, when in reality you just need to wear garments that fit you comfortably and dress yourself appropriately for the weather, which are two things Lor didn't do in that video iirc. Which is a shame, I have no doubt that she truly loves the fashion, but doing that gave her viewers (who are mostly not lolitas at all) a skewed view of the fashion.
>>10100014Eurofag here and customs gets me every time that I order from Lief. It is the only reason that I don't buy from them so often any more, because otherwise the quality is great and the pieces very flattering.
>>10100064Ah shit, that's not good to hear. Which country? Might be okay where I live... I've asked if they mark down in an email, & they didn't address that part at all. Why wouldn't they just say no if they don't?>>10099278Correct me if I'm wrong but don't books and magazines in the EU have a 0% VAT rate?
>>10100064>>10100068I know everyone keeps bringing them up, but can't you just buy it from Atelier Pierrot? They mark down packages and they'll stock things they don't have on their website if you ask.
>>10100068All i kniw is that there's no VAT on books and magazines sent to the UK.
>>10099301You indeed pay tax over the value + shipping, but when it comes to deciding if you have to pay taxes or not they only look at value. As long as the value is below €22, you don’t have to pay taxes, at least in the EU country I come from. If something is €20 and the shipping is €12, I don’t have to pay tax as the value on the package is below €22.
>>10100073I've thought about it, would they be able to handle a reservation for me though?
>>10100068Where I live you have to pay tax if the value is above €22, also for books. However if you order more than €150 worth of books you only pay taxes for it and not another extra importing fees. While for other items above the €150 you would have had to pay importing fees on top of the taxes. I do believe the tax on books is lower than on other items. People often mix up the importing fees and just the tax fees and get surprised when they still have to pay. Don’t know if it differs per EU country.
>>10100079They did for me for JetJ. Tax free was why I chose to use them instead of direct from JetJ.
>>10099578In Germany they are
>>10100023I love lolita too but I’m not going to pretend like it’s comfortable for lounging around the house. Does that make me a fake lolita now?
>>10100126It doesn't make you fake but maybe you should consider how your clothes fit you, and I don't mean to imply that you're fat. If your dresses's or blouses's shoulder measurement is too small, it affects comfort too. Same goes for too-tight elastics. I can and do wear my coords around the house for hours on end just for fun and never had issues with comfort, so it's a personal problem more than anything else.
>>10100132I’m like this with all my clothes though, from forever21 normie shit to lolita, I like to be comfortable at home and I wear loungewear or roomwear. Usually the first thing I do when I get home is take my makeup and contacts off and do my skincare routine. It would be stupid to do all that while leaving a nice coordinate on. Some of my clothes are on the snug side, but sometimes I just don’t like wearing all those layers if I’m just going to be sitting down playing vidya, cleaning my bathroom or doing yoga. If you can do it then more power to you, but that doesn’t mean those of us that can’t aren’t real lolitas. Plenty of women love wearing high heels, doesn’t change the fact that they can be uncomfortable when worn too long no matter how perfect the sizing is.
>>10100132> I can and do wear my coords around the house for hours on end just for fun and never had issues with comfortSame anon. I never understood why people complain that they can't wait to get out of their dresses. For me, I really don't want to take it off, I feel so fricking cute. I lounge around with my cats until I have to get ready for bed at night.
>>10100135Lor wasn't lounging at home. She was going out and running errands. It's a basic concept in any fashion. Buy things that fit. If it's uncomfortable, guess what? It doesn't fit. If it's too hot, then take a look at your fabric choices.Sure she may love the idea of lolita, but in practice, I don't see it.
>>10100142Who runs errands for 24 hours? Some people overheat easily, and it’s not like it’s difficult for lolita clothing to be too tight. It’s cool you can wear it 24/7, not everyone can but to think someone whose obviously spent a lot of money on the fashion and dedicated a lot of her time to it must not truly like it because she can’t wear it for 24 hours is silly.
>>10100135Nobody’s saying that if you don’t wear lolita to do yoga you’re not a real lolita. You’re moving goalposts. Anon already explained that Lor wore clothes that didn’t fit well and were unsuitable for the weather and then acted like the discomfort that caused is inherent to lolita, which is false. That’s the problem people had with that video, not that she doesn’t wear full coords to bed.
>>10100147“Lolita clothes can be uncomfortable” isn’t a wrong conclusion. If lolita clothes were inherently that way then casual lolita wouldn’t be a separate style
>>10100150Casual lolita is not a separate style because of comfort, it's less attention grabbing/more accepted at normie events, and quicker. Some people also just prefer how causal looks.
>>10100151Comfort is also part of casual lolita, it falls under the “easier to wear” umbrella...
>>10100150casual lolita is not a different style 80% of it is literally just lolita with printed cutsews instead of blouses or IW solid coords that could pass for fancy normie outfits
AP, this weekend hurts.
>>10100190Fucking hell, I love gingham! and this is precious.
>>10100018i gotchu anon
>>10100190This is adorable! The model would be selling the garment more is she looked happy.
>>10100190God, I don't wear sweet but this is adorable.
>>10100190I only had enough for Be My Valentine and didn't know this was coming out. I like it so much better but oh well I'll just sit here and cry
>>10100137I'm the opposite--I'd love to be able to wear lolita around the house and be comfy. I think I may be slightly allergic to makeup bc when I put stuff on my eyelids and lashes (no matter how carefully, how top quality the makeup or the brand, or how it's sealed) my eyes always feel dry, stingy and sleepy afterwards. It makes me a bit lethargic. But I've been experimenting more with other makeup brands to see what works best with me and what doesn't so hopefully I'll remedy that problem. The clothes themselves I suspect I'm just not used to yet. I'm so used to wearing jeans and a tshirt, so the several layers and the extra weight of all that fabric is very exhausting for me to move around in, which is why I'm excited to take off a full coord when I get home from a meet and ready to go back to bed or take a heavy nap after. I'm thinking of switching the elastic on my casual petti to a drawstring desu, so I can loosen it after food if necessary when wearing daily coords. I wanna be a daily lolita but I need to find some workarounds for comfy things for my lazy ass to wear. orz
>>10100490Smiling is over rated
>>10100487You’re the best!
>>10100146She's just a collector
>>10100612Maybe try more empire waisted or sack OPs if comfort is key for you?Something like pic related perhaps? I have this dress and it’s really comfy to wear for meets.
>>10100490Models don't usually smile in lolita
>>10100632These sorts of cutting are also really comfortable to wear. I’ve been trying to wear lolita out more lately so I totally understand the need for comfort.As much as I love Victorian Maiden and MM, they’re definitely not the best when it comes to comfort.
>>10100633They used to. AP's models looked the happiest of them all, iirc.
>>10100633They did a lot until recent years.
>>10100636>>10100632rofl that nun op is actually on my wishlist in a different color (or one of its sisters idr BtssB's got lots of nun stuff these days.) I do have a Meta Sailor OP similar to the pic, it is so dang comfy. Meta in general is just like... The best when it comes to comfort I find. Yeah empire waisted dresses are something I've been slowly looking into, but overall I'm just not a fan of sack dresses RIP. I have a few, but I've found that the more shirring the better (obviously) and because I have small tits I'm able to get away without wearing a bra most of the time--which has helped a lot desu. I've also started the journey of investing in lots of cutsews and I LOOOOVE them. I'm also keeping my eye out for skirts that are at least half or fully elastic waist so I can pair them with cute sweaters.
>>10100640;__; these were the good days at least they didn't look bored out of their fucking minds
>>10100640They didn't before then. It was just a trend, especially in coords slightly inspired by gyaru, like hime
>>10100190She's almost smizing here. Come on, Risa! You can do it!
>>10100658GLB issue 2, my friend. models in sweet clothes used to smile all the time.
>>10100680GLB 4, and look! smiles!
>>10100190you know those large text apps and other setting on your computer to adjust them for people with vision problems?thats what all new AP designs look like to me
>>10100687a stroke for every folk
>>10100681You have to smile to look cute when you're in your 40s
>>10100687They all look cute to me.
>>10100687New one is awful and clashes horribly, bottom right is also kinda ugly and top left is questionable. The others are fine imo
>>10100018You have my vote, dragon-chan. I missed out on the last release and I really need it.
>>10100147This reminds me of the kinda dumb "action lolita" videos that fluffykawaii Jo has been making. Sure, you can do lolita in whatever, but it's definitely not the most practical outfit to go swimming in for example. But you CAN do it if you want. No one is stopping you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblNBRMJ0B8&
>>10100687G I N G H A M F E V E R
>>10099076It looks like they’re back and listing Princess Cats again.
>>10100687I like this new dress, but only the top half. The gingham on the bottom just looks tacked on there. I feel like it's missing something.
>>10100765Those videos are fun
>>10096536Can we talk about the little dude next to her?Look at him,look at his power stance.He's the man and he knows it.You go, funky little asian kid