Is having kids worth it?
Is it worth it to have something meaningful in your life? Two kids, divorced about a year ago. Now just fuck around on my own weeks and be a good father on my kid weeks. 5/5 really
>>14727079those kids are going to grow up fucked up
>>14727079i used to be a NEET videogaming manchild stonernow im wageslaving full time, gf, own place etci am so fucking stressed man. i feel like red wojak all the time.me and my gf have discussed kids within the next year or so.. but i dont know if i wish this shit existence on anyone else desu
>>14727115Can't control female loyalty in our current legal system, doesn't mean you should let your grandfather's lineage end.
>>14727130were you happier without the wagecucking and gf? would you go back? how hot and how annoying is the gf
>>14727026It's rough, but you'll never love anyone more than your own kids. If you're high iq, having kids is the most redpilled thing you can do. Room temp iq retards have tons of kids, we need high iq people to start having kids again. Not having kids is a Jewish trick to dumb down the population.
>>14727026Yes if you have 2million+ and financially independent.
>>14727149Because they’re being raised by two different sets of parents. Imagine having 2 dads and 2 moms.
Why not travel to another country and get a girl pregnant and then just go to your home country. Can they still get money from you?
>>14727156just asking cuz strongly considering leave the gf and job to neet full time. seems like a better life. but i dont want to mistakenly let go of my life become more normieish if i will regret
Impregnating a woman in your field and removing her from the job market is "worth it" if you want to maximize your chances of getting a job.Doing so is not "worth it" for the kids, though. Single mothers are the worst thing in the world.
>>14727149Roastie mom's bf is gonna molest the kids. That's why single mothers are the fucking worst.
>>14727156>be neet>waaahhhh I want a gf so bad>be wagecuck with gf>waaahhh I just want to play video games and relax so badGrass is always greener nig
>>14727026Only women have kids. At best you are rising Chad's offspring. Husband = cuck
>>14727149single mothers ruin their childrenfemales have no loyalty, at all, and your kids will learn her ways as well be affected by them>>14727138>muh lineagelol
>>14727026It's honestly the only thing in this life that is worth it. Once you become a parent you realize very quickly all the other bullshit you were chasing is meaningless. Life becomes a lot easier to appreciate.The real dilemma is marriage and long term relationships are really not worth it OTHER than the benefits it provides for your child. The greatest Catch 22 of life IMO.
>>14727026No/thread. Father. Kids are obnoxious little shits who will never appreciate the sacrifices you made to have them. If you are the type of person who needs constant affirmation by other creatures, just get a dog or a gf. I got a vasectomy at age 25 after my first kid cause I realized it will be the only way to not make the same mistake twice. Also, if you use condoms, tie them in a knot and take them with you when you leave. Do not ever leave them in a woman’s trash can
>>14727156i think when i was a NEET loser i had more time to contemplate how my life wasnt "going anywhere" and i didnt want to end up a 40 year old incel working in a supermarket. it was depressing.my gf is 10/10 and is really nice and supportive. shes got a great personality. the problem is i've spent a lot of my life in isolation and on forums/gaming, so if i have to spend more than a day with her or do too many social things, i literally cant cope. i get really pissed off and just want to be alone i fantasize a lot now about quitting my job and working somewhere with little responsibility, smoking weed and playing vidyabut idk maybe a family life will be more rewarding..
>>14727026Yes, but only if you can find a virgin girl to marry and have kids with. Good luck finding a virgin lmao.
>>14727265As a follow up, this is a meme that only beta cucks believe. If you want to truly give your life meaning, make money and experience the beauty this world has to offer. I just travelled all over South America and that was a lot more gratifying that some roastie shitting out a baby and paying child support for 18 years
>>14727203>>14727182Diversify your portfolio and diversify your life
>>14727299travelling is the ultimate memei dont want to travel to see some favela apes you fucking faggot lmao
>>14727265>having children is literally the only reason to be aliveimagine being this much of a fucking amoeba
>>14727295yeah mine was a virgin
>>14727324It’s not a meme if you have money. I fucked a 9/10 cute Ecuadorian at sunset at quilatoa a few weeks ago after skydiving in Belize.You only think it’s a meme because you can’t afford to do it or know people who do it when they can’t afford it
>>14727367yeah fucking shitskins isnt my idea of fun lmaoneither is fucking thots/ used up mudsharks
>>14727299>>14727345>t. don't have kidsYou don't get it until you actually have them. Sorry, youngins. And yes, I've traveled the world, make plenty of money. I've done some amazing things. I've played rock shows in front of thousands of people. I've sailed yachts to secluded islands. I've had sex with many, many beautiful women. I've been to dozens of countries and seen every state in the USA.Nothing even comes close to the experience of fatherhood. Remember anons, this is from someone who has seen both sides, and the only people telling you otherwise are those who have no actual experience.
>>14727399Lol you’re a mongoloid. Do you even realize what percentage of South America is white? Read a book faggot
>>14727435okay shitskin fucker
>>14727442https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Latin_AmericansI have never bred outside of my race.
>>14727402>I've played rock shows in front of thousands of people. I've sailed yachts to secluded islands. I've had sex with many, many beautiful women. I've been to dozens of countries and seen every state in the USA.
>>14727442Literally 30-40 percent of Latin Americans are white. You would know this if you weren’t too poor to visit. There’s honestly more shitskins in the southern US. I felt more at home in Argentina than in the USa
>>14727455>>14727481imagine being this mad lmao
>>14727149It's like the other anon said - they'll most likely be sexually or physically abused by mom's new bf. Happened to my cousin's kids, terrible thing but it's super common.
>>14727476What's amusing is, everything I'm writing is a fact. If you want to doubt it, I can prove it all. I'll do so for a $100,000 bet backed by a smart contract. Do you have the capital? If not, you can maybe get some other NEETs who doubt me to pool it together.
I'm a neet with a gf lol
>>14727520You can maybe pool in with other anon, put your money where your mouth is. :)
>>14727026Idk the few times a year I hang out with my friends who have kids they are tired and stressed af and they seem like they want to escape their life but are trapped. Looks awful desu
>>14727539i believe you, its just all that stuff is incredibly cringe
>>14727557Nah, cause I believe you. I know other richfags IRL who made it in crypto, and it’s not hard to find people to play music in front of. I wouldn’t need to pool with anyone. I have the capital. I think you’re sincere and I’m glad kids worked out for you. I just find no fulfillment in procreation.Maybe that’s the answer to this thread. Is having kids worth it? It’s subjective
>>14727324They probably don't want to see you, either
>>14727026Literally the one biological goal in life.
>>14727026Is pissing away $500k worth it?
>>14727291>my gf is a 10/10In behavior? Because let's not get carried away with looks
>>14727324>experiencing things is stupid when you can just stare at your computer screen Traveling is awesome if you're not a broke autistic faggot. While you're in the basement I'm out having sex with exotic women, surfing, scuba diving, hiking in foreign countries. Keep coping though.
>>14727686Based. Having kids is like pissing away 500k
>>14727605That is true. I think if we had time for a longer conversation I could bring you around. I don't expect anything of my kid (e.g. appreciating my sacrifices) because since having a kid I've become fully aware of the fact that I don't nearly appreciate my parents enough for my own existence. Given the context of the rest of my life, I also realize I likely never will.That being said, as someone who already generally believed most of life's tangibles to be meaningless, the experience of watching the most complex life form we are aware of take shape has been the most enjoyable experience I've had. Nothing has put life into perspective the same way, not even close.>>14727583That's fine. Just trying to make a point that from where I'm sitting - which is a better spot than most people - having a child is a valuable investment.
>>14727666She has a very pretty face, massive tits, ass could be better but overall 10/10 plus she was a virgin
>>14727686>While you're in the basement I'm out having sex with exotic women, surfing, scuba diving, hiking in foreign countries.rather be in my basement playing vidya and fucking my gf tbqh than those cringe tryhard activities
>>14727138Unless you have 10/10 genetics your lineage is worthless. Or do you not believe in eugenics?
>>14727770>ass could be betterNot a 10/10 then. 10/10 = perfect = there's NOTHING you think could be better. Can we all agree on that and can you re-rate her? I don't even care if it's a fully subjective scale like ass doesn't get a lot of weighting so she's 9.999999/10, but you just admitted she's not a 10/10.
>>14727826that tiny imperfection makes her perfect :^)
>>14727735Thanks for the input, anon. Made me think. I'll have to work on finding a virgin qt to breed with.
>>14727182neetdom is terrible imo, crushing depression and loneliness is the road to suicide
>>14727795>rather be in my basement playing vidya and fucking my gf tbqh than those cringe tryhard activitiesthis tbqhwyf
>>14727399>shitskins Kek, latinas are top tier women, only second to slav white women. The only "problem" is they like high-test alphas and not betas (who tend to prefer asians)
>>14727276storytime regarding the condom advice
You will actually love your child, thats why it has value, it lets you expierience a real thing
>>14727399Go shart in mart, Sunburn.
>>14728065dude.. those girls are UGLY
Holy fuck at the cope in this thread. Have fun celebrating Christmas by yourself when you’re 50 years old while nobody in the world gives a fuck about you.
>>14728697This is unironically the reason I chose to have kids to begin with... speaking to a few of my parents friends who never had kids and they all had the same one big life regret ("I wish I would have had children") and despite success or whatever great things they did or had, they all seemed like they basically realized life was a bunch of bullshit and nothing they did or achieved mattered.I'm sure some sociopaths never get to this point and can be find their whole life not having kids, and those same people probably should never have kids. For everyone else, think about what you actually want your future to be like and consider material goods have little value once you've lived long enough.
>>14728586Great detective skills, Cletus.
>>14728766It melts my heart when thinking of giving my pure and kawaii 2d waifu many children and have her hug them (together with me) and push her baby buggy around while smiling happily... but still I would never put a child into this world. I would probably do so if you would guarantee me for there to be an afterlife. But with things as they are? Never.
>>14728065You told me they were white.
>>14728965>It melts my heart when thinking of giving my pure and kawaii 2d waifu many children and have her hug them (together with me) and push her baby buggy around while smiling happily.d.w i went through this phase youll grow out of it one day
>>14728766>they basically realized life was a bunch of bullshit and nothing they did or achieved mattered>material goods have little value once you've lived long enoughYour kids are no more or less human than you. If your life and achievements don't matter, then theirs don't either. There's no reason why fertilizing a zygote would make any of this existential angst shit magically go away.
Having kids is comparable to Holding link and visiting 4chan. Its very very exhausting, you are getting yelled at, literally shit everywhere. But you become stronger than you would have thought possible, you get free hugs everyday, you have fun everyday and you are never ever fucking selling.
>>14727539How will you be able to trustlessly enforce reliable datafeeds are submitted to the smart contract? It just doesn't seem feasible without some kind of decentralized oracle solution.
>>14727026Kids changed my life for the better. You learn a lot about yourself and people and also what's important in life. I used to be a hedonist until those kids. I realized how much balance, painstaking hard work, and focus is necessary to raise a human being well. It made me think about life in terms harmony, balance, building a good home, earning money to provide a good life, caring about society, etc, and made me appreciate living well that much more. It's also been extremely rewarding and in a sense healing to be with kids.If you're someone chasing aimless gains, it might help to have something to spend that hard work on. What better way than a family that can directly benefit from and appreciate that wealth? It takes a hell of a lot more than money to be a good parent though. Having kids can easily turn for the worst if you yourself are not of good character. If you just want to live a self-centered life, that's totally your freedom to do so, and unless you have the capacity to care for others as much as yourself, I wouldn't recommend having them.
>>14727115around millions of other fucked up people
Yeah, definitely worth it. Especially if you lived your life as a full time degenerate and mad man for at least a decade or more prior to having one. Personally I didn't think I'd love it as much as I do, but my kid and wife are the shit... life rules. Also GO QUANT BABY WEW
>>14727265I see your balls have been busted into dust by a wife who is openly cheating on you...sad
>>14727367>I swung really high on a big swing set and then fucked a monkeyReally proud of you anon
Imo yes, I need someone to keep collecting the divvies after I pass
>>14727026Yes very. To see your girl get nice and thick.
>>14729343Passing on your genes is the one way you can live forever, which is why I think those closer to death feel this regret more. However, as someone with kids that's not why I get enjoyment out of it. It was just the reason I decided to do so in the first place. In short, you're not wrong, I think those people have regrets for the wrong reasons because the right reasons are ones they can't ever comprehend.
>>14727367All women are beautifulIf you never fucked a black, a cinese, a latina, a korean and a slav what is the point of your existence?Have sex faggotImagine spitting on 10/10 because muh different skin
>>14729766she was obese before already
>>14729949>first pic>obeseYou have very low testosterone levels and probably yank it to weird looking cartoon children.
>>14727079>Is it worth it to have something meaningful in your life?This is just plain sad. NPC genes still defining you can't live happy just doing what you want because you don't have "meaning" for your life.This is exactly the same as saying you don't have meaning for your life if you are not working for someone..
>>14727026absolutely not, especially not if you are terrible at teaching ppl things, definitely not if you are a degenerate, sjw, leftist, or a poor person. absolutely never have kids if you are not white because all youre doing is putting someone else on welfare that whites have to pay the bills for. and if you cant afford a $220k investment over the course of 18 years raising the kid, dont even bother having one bc thats how much its costs to give a kid a halfway decent life growing up.
>>14730108The purpose of life is spiritual growth. Having a child allows you to achieve even greater growth because you're actively helping someone else grow and develop. Enjoy stagnating in your hedonistic hell. Then die alone and forgotten by everyone because Shaniqua forgot to bring you your mashed potatoes.
>>14727026Having kids is awesome.t. Father of one boy one girl, hope to have more.
>>14730379>Then die alone and forgottenYou mean 25 yr slav hooker sucking my cock while I'm shooting too much fentanyl is worse than bi-weekly visiting annoying retards who loudly argue about your heritage when your shitting in your pants. Huh, you, boy.. well hope you will remember this post someday.
>>14727079don't listen to the neckbeard anons you're doing allright
>>14727130Dump the gfSave moneyinvest in shitmake lotsa spaghettiretire and play vidya
>>14730379What should that picture mean? An innocent dead kid is now meme material? Do the world a favour, eat shit and die
>>14727079>and be a good father The first thing of being a GOOD father is providing a mother and stable family for your kids asshole. How deluded are you when you don't see your kids for a week. And then be a 'good' dad on the other weeks. Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds?
>>14727826what a fucking autist
>>14727814Not the guy you replied to but Hitler’s Germany was for eugenics in the sense of elevating the entire genetic health of the population. He would never ban reproduction of people that were less intelligent or physically superior then the top 1%. Everyone would evolve and everyone would be given a respected role in accordance to their capability.Without a worker under class and even middle class the truly superior would be stuck doing menial work instead of letting their creative minds run wild and innovating.As the entire population evolves today’s advance work will become tomorrow’s menial work. Everybody has their role to ensure our evolution and prosperity. Hitler wanted everyone to be spiritually connected towards the ideal of elevating all our people towards god status.
>>14727276If your kids are obnoxious you are probablt a terrible parent. Nurture > nature in almost all behavioral aspects of children.
>>14730649What are you talking about? If your children grow up to be unempathetic shits who care more about your will money than you, they've obviously learned how to act like that from you. For people who only chase nigger-tier sources of pleasure, dying young and childless is obviously better, because it will leave the rest of us with more space to raise our own children in.
>>14727276> sterilizing oneself so own retardation doesn't pollute gene pool furtherbased
>>14727149Statistically speaking the less time a child spends around their father before the age of 9 the shorter their cellular telomeres develop to be. Nobody knows why but it's measurable in both male and female kids and we know with absolute certainty that telomere length directly corrolates to life span.Not blaming you obviously, hoes will hoe but you need to spend as much time with them as you can. Their lives quite literally depend on it.
>>14727324>spends thousands of dollars to sleep in a disgusting hostel filled with aids >doesn't pay 500 for an HTC Vive to experience literally thousands of more amazing things without fucking traveling and paying $5000 to pay an Elephant and smell their massive shits
>>14730058Feminine bone structure and wide hips are attractive, being a landwhale is not
>>14727138>muh lineageIn 10 generations your descendants will have like what, 1/1024th of your DNA? WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT LINEAGE ASIDE FROM BRAINLESS /POL/ NPCS YOU FAGGOT?
>>14727265>It's honestly the only thing in this life that is worth it.Imagine being this much of a fucking slave to your programming. Peak NPC.
>>14727026from how fucked up my life has turned out, not worth it for my parents.
>>14727402Nobody gives a fuck that you find meaning in changing dirty diapers you disgusting NPC ape.
What are the odds that a child of a man that browses anonymous image boards turns out to be a well adjusted sociable neurotypical human beeing that activly contributes to society?
>>14732052>1/1024th of your DNA?Yes, Inside 1024+ people living on the planet.
I wish i could get pregnant
>>14732052That's fine dude, don't have kids. Means more in the world for mine. I encourage all people of color to enjoy their lives and avoid the "curse" of children.
>>14732157I'm high IQ and white.Your kids are gonna live on planet on the apes. That's hilarious.
>>14732052You're not taking into account that if you have sex with people that are genetically close to you (people of your own race), they'll have much more than 1/1024th of your DNA.
>>14732229So it aint really "your" lineage by that definition. You can go ahead and make yourself miserable having kids to preserve your race. I'll pass.
>>14727569This. My best friend has a 7 month old and both he and his wife seem fucking miserable and exhausted. I think I'd rather stick with my 2 dogs and then board them in a nice daycare for a few weeks and travel the world whenever i want. Maybe my opinion will change after a few years of that but i doubt it
>>14727795>not bringing his console with him so that he can have adventures irl during the day and comfy latenight vidya sessionsnot gonna make it
>>14730379I don't see how someone could be so edgy and hypocritical that they talk about spiritual growth then post the photo of a dead child in jest.
>>14731664>Hitler’s Germany was for eugenics in the sense of elevating the entire genetic health of the population....And then he sent the fastest, strongest, most courageous, most patriotic German men to their deaths by the millions... like a boss.
>>14732256It is "your" lineage, because it is your genetics. I don't see why I would be miserable having children. By that logic, the majority of people in human existence have been miserable.>>14732753He had no choice. He extended offers of peace on numerous occasions, but was always refused.
>>14728697Absolutely this. Kids seem a massive drag for the young. But there's nothing sadder than a lonely old man with nobody. T. First child on the way. Gf genuine top bird.
>>14729343You're too autistic to get it. It's not about injecting meaning into life.. it's about not ending up some withered, sexless (even if you fuck everything that moves) nothing, with nothing more than your NPC travel photos to show for yourself
Sure, especially having daughters.
The /pol/ definitely showing through on this thread. It's funny no matter what group you are part of the un spiritual people are miserable cunts and empty. Biz is full of just as much hate as Pol. You're just miserable hateful sociopathic chads instead of Neets. /X/ really is red pilled.
>>14727170This. Poor people don't deserve to have kids
>>14733001Unless you're this guy
>>14727814>tfw 6'4, white, handsome (enough)Honestly feel obligated to have kids just because I got good genes. W.e, a girl will be less likely to divorce me if she deems me high value so probably won't get divorce-raped.
>>14727402Could you attempt to elaborate. How old is your kid. My personal opinion So far is that - done Well, having a family is the most worthwhile thing. Gotta do it right though, indeed after living a little.
>>14727520Imagine being such an incel you can’t comprehend different realities from your mom basement. Probably why you got stuck there in the first place. Enjoy the napkins
>>14727026My son was born 2 days ago. So far he has been wonderful but my wife is not recovering well. We are in the hospital and she is still trying to walk right now.
>>14731997>Feminine bone structure and wide hips are attractive, being a landwhale is notInject T.
>>14731876Source?? Am drunk and will literally give btc for source bc my children alife depsend on it
>>14728065>they like high-test alphas and not betasSo like every woman? Retard.
>>14732404Its the first year. Its super tough. Maybe its like the start of a workout. Really fucking heavy - but So worth it eventually.
>>14733658This study proves correlation between fathlessness and telomere length https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/140/2/e20163245This study proves correlation between early development telomere length and lifespan https://www.pnas.org/content/109/5/1743Obviosly statistics are not absolutes but one of the best things you can do for your kids is just be around them, there's something about having a father figure there that improves development even on a cellular level.
>>14727826You're an autist but technically correct
haven't you seen Trumps tweet? Nobody here will be able to afford children anymore
>>14729766>>14730058This is the ideal female bodyYou may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>14727026Not unless your loaded it aint.
>>14727735Based and wholesome
>>14727026No it's not fucking worth it, All you are doing on earth is learning how to be a better fucking soul. The kids you make are just reincarnated souls as we all are. You should not be focusing on making kids but bettering yourself and learning the full extent of service to others or service to yourself, Whether you choose positive/negative channels in life, It doesn't matter it all leads to one. There is no right or wrong, It is all one.
>>14736381To add, You've already had kids in the past in another life."Your purpose in the Game(Life), is to work upon yourself. To grow, develop, and transform yourself into a more positive and loving being. You had certain goals that you planned to achieve before incarnating here, which is a main reason for the veil of forgetfulness being in place, because if you already knew what your goals were, the Game would be too easy."
>>14727026"So basically the form that we have is actually just a body with bones and skin and so on and so forth. What matters is our soul or being that is inside us that makes us question and deal with our surroundings and life, so when we "die" the pain and suffering is just part of our human shell, and has nothing to do with our soul or being which will carry on into the next life or density?"Indeed. 'Pain' and 'suffering' are just aspects of the Game. They feel extremely real whilst we are playing the Game, and indeed they have to, in order to make you believe that the Game is real. No-one really "dies". But rather, the 'matter' of human form is shed, much like the chrysalis of a caterpillar, when the butterfly emerges. Look upon physical incarnation as the chrysalis in which you may transform.
>>147350121PpDBsu3XmHXnsSWXDfYifW3LUCk81xseoon computer now
>>14736381I make sure to always tell this to people of color, we can't let whites hoard the anti-aids wisdom
>>14727402I have not sailed or had sex with many women, however I agree with this comment. I have had good success with business, travel, women etc, but children were greater than any of those. Fatherhood is great. I think what helps make the above work is to commit to being a great husband and father, upon deciding on a good woman to marry. You do need to balance and lead your wife and children in a loving way to make sure it all works well. It's been my experience.
Elon Musk is literally going to mars and has managed two wives and 7 children. I don't know how he has been able to do it between rocket science, electric cars, solar panels, starlink, tunneling and becoming a meme.
>>14727276>tie them in a knot and take them with you when you leave. Do not ever leave them in a woman’s trash canactual good advice, except great advice would be to flush them down the toilet. i'm not carrying a filled condom around for any amount of time.
>>14727026If you raise them well, probably.
>>14727276You don’t have to tell me what happened, but you do have to the this condom off abs leave with it.
>>14728697You’re not that special, family or no family.
>>14729343Your brain floods with cuck chemicals that keep you around just long enough to ensure survival and child rearing before finding the next wet hole to pound.
>>14731354Know how I know you have to go back?
>>14733581t. guy with fat fetish from porn overconsumption and brainwashing
>>14729490beautiful post man. 12th degree based
>>14732973I can tell you're not Buddhist
>>14729343People don't stop and think that there's no end goal to humanity. No point in reproducing other than to satisfy ego.
>>14731354ThisEspecially in the context of this conversation. Talking about getting kids, starting a family, the most secret thing in the world. Then posting a "meme" of an innocent dead child. Just..
>>14732650it's a muslim so it doesn't count
>>14732973bitch don't u know life isn't real?
>>14727583It's only cringe to you because you're a neet that's done none of it. You wish you could try even a fraction of that.
>>14728608fyuck you're retarded