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I don't blame Jay for this, him being shit in-ring and being still fucking green isn't his fault, he's young, he's not a genius like Okada. That's not his fault, he did nothing wrong.

I don't blame Kenny for abandoning NJPW and signing with AEW and cash for far more money and freedom that can satisfy his humongous ego, he too did nothing wrong.

I blame NJPW's officials and boardroom, the decision makers. See, NJPW's overambitions to expand to the west is what caused this. They turned Kenny, a humble indy shitter into a huge self-mark with an ego that can shatters mountains. And when he asked for the impossible they told him no so he flipped them off and jumped ship. Now since NJPW are facing a crisis with no one to lead their western expansion they had to abruptly build a green foreigner to position him as the western draw and what a mistake that is. Jay White isn't big in America and his match today speaks loud about his absolute state in Japan. Giving him the belt too soon, trying to create an Okada shock won't solve the problem. It's funny how NJPW's cronies are exactly the same as every Japan Inc. But unlike other Japanese companies, they're now in a tough position where they cannot satisfy either of their western fans and Japanese fans.

It all comes down to their western expansion. This was the mistake. If they don't kill that meme they'll be losing more money and fans. It's time to put stop to the western expansion because no one will ever replace Kenny, and you can't establish a western fanbase without someone like him.
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Well they're 0-3 when it comes to gaijin staying so 4th time's the charm!
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lmao you are so seething
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>>6145565
I'm seething after watching the shitty match earlier today. Borefest with dead ass crowd. I like Jay's character work but this isn't a TV Tokyo late-night drama. The guy can't be the face of the company, he absolutely can't.
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Chadblade winning this belt is the greatest gift Gado has ever given the fans. The amount of beautiful seethe it spawned is truly awe inspiring.
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>>6145586
Holy seething Vincels!
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>>6145555
You realize they only gave Kenny the belt because he was leaving right? The difference is that Jay is their own creation.
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>>6145594
>The difference is that Jay is their own creation.
Yeah so was Devitt
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>>6145594
I've said it before and I'll say it again, gaijin NEVER stay in Japan. Japan will tolerate foreigners but you will never be equal to a born and bred Jap, even if you live there for decades and assimilate yourself completely. They can throw every accolade at a person but if you never feel accepted on a personal level where you live then it just isn't worth it.
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>>6145586
The match was fine, Chadblade is only 26 and seems completely loyal to NJPW, he'll be fine, NJPW will be fine. His character and in ring psychology is already twice as good as Omega's and he's 10 years younger? Tana was never going to have a lengthy run either his body is battered and he's in his mid 40's?
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>>6145598
>Devitt left
>Nakamura and Anderson left
Being a dojo boy doesnt mean that you can't leave if you are unhappy.
>>6145546
Kenny implied that NJPW didn't care about his ideas when he suggested the match with Ibushi for MSG. They clearly didn't value him enough. That match deserved to main event that show.
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>>6145615
Name another gaijin who is NuJapan homegrown and has been as handomely rewarded for it as Jay.
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Lmao get a load of this simp. Match was fine. They're booking an Okada redemption arc so expect Okada to run through Bullet Club and defeat Jay at WK.
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>>6145626
>in ring psychology is already twice as good as Omega's
What did YOU mean by this?
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>>6145630
Kenny was also seething on twtich when he found out about the show
It's all a work
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>>6145643
he means that omega is a ding-dong diddly spot monkey
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>>6145643
Omega's a glorified fucking spot monkey, dude
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>>6145658
This is just objectively untrue even if you hate Kenny. What a retarded opinion.
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>>6145648
>Kenny was also seething on twtich when he found out about the show. It's all a work

Explain
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>>6145626
he won't sell for shit and he looks like a muscular baby
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>>6145670
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/378871921?t=01h01m03s
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It's neither Jay's fault nor Kenny's. New Japan's western ambitious are to blame.
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>>6145698
>Trying to appeal to western fans who consist of Elite drones who left the moment Kenny & Co. left and fickle people with ever changing tastes and moods
What could go wrong?
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So do I get to go around saying Tanahashi's reign was a flop to all the people who told me Omega's reign was a flop now?
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>>6145626
>His character and in ring psychology is already twice as good as Omega's
lmao wow
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>>6145723
They put the belt on Tana because Kenny was leaving. He would have beat him otherwise. I thank that anyone can see that.
>>6145687
Why do you think that it's a work? He's been throwing shit at NJPW since the AEW Press. But then we found out about the contract thing.
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>>6145723
Tanahashi's reign was for the specific purpose of replacing Kenny with Jay, so nah, it did its job.
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>>6145626
>His character and in ring psychology is already twice as good as Omega's
Sup Jay!
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I still don’t understand why after all these years and after the recent US shows got shat on for having no Japanese that they think they need a gaijin ace to keep foreigners watching. How long have people been begging for okada/tana in the US now? People watch New Japan to see the epic matches, not to self insert as a foreigner. Jay can’t have great matches the way dozens of guys on the roster can and it’s laughable to push him that hard. Read the twitter comments on their post about him winning, it’s 100 people saying new Japan is in a new dark age and jay sucks.
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>>6145749
Kenny NEVER shoots on people or companies, especially like this, he wouldn't even talk shit about WWE even though he was fucking miserable there. Everything he's doing is a work and I will chop off my dick if it turns out to be wrong.
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>>6145546

If that's your reaction to Switchblade winning, how assblasted are you going to be when they start pushing Ospreay as the big Gaijin face?
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>>6145759
Should be impressed after I achieved in one year what took you 3, Kenneth.
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>>6145769
They keep the gaijin ace because the Jap crowds go absolutely bonkers for him. You can't argue against demand.
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>>6145749
>>6145753
Could've at least held it 'til MSG. His reign was literally just him getting the crap kicked out of him by Jay White for a month in an average Tanahashi match. It really didn't do anything for me.

You could've also just had Omega lose to Jay in Sapporo or asked him to stay an extra couple weeks and lose in Osaka, I'm sure he would've been fine with that.
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>>6145771
Literally no reason to be a work since he has a program with Jericho coming up and NJPW is heading towards MSG without him.
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>>6145546
Jay White is fantastic in-ring though. His moveset consists of simple, vicious looking, moves which is what a heel moveset should be like, he understand how to pace a match and play to the crowd and he's good at improvising shit for heat. Oh wait I'm sorry I forgot he doesn't do dives to the outside and spout one-liners in the middle of a match, guess that won't get him many Metlzer stars.
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>>6145783
Jay is only champion because Kenny decided to leave.
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>>6145772
Ospreay is infinitely preferable because he can have great matches, unlike Jay
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>>6145586
>dead ass crowd
Lmao did we watch the same match? The crowd was pulling for Tanahashi like crazy.
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>>6145787
Kenny wanted out ASAP in order to appear at that AEW conference. But yeah, Jay kept getting the better of Tana because they wanted to establish him as a big deal quickly. It's sooner than most people would have expected or liked, but Jay's time is now and you have Kenny to thank for that.
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>>6145796
>Literally no reason to be a work

Except to start teasing a bitter blow out match with Ibushi, aka the last huge match they promised each other. This shit will be 2 years in the making I guarantee you.
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>>6145809
>Brings Meltzer for no reason
Okada doesn't dive and is twice the wrestler that Jay is. It's okay. He MAYBE will get there in 10 years.
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So Kota's now the one chasing ,Ibushi has dark hair (like kenny did)and is going to win the cup (if the contract rumours are true) i could see him vs Kenny for real in the Dome next year as the co or main for day 1.
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>>6145821
>deciding someone's fitness to be champ on the ability to have good matches
Yikes. On the bright side smarks like you will be leaving en masse for AEW at long last.
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>>6145821
His match with Tana today was great, you contrarian retard.
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>>6145772
Ospreay is better wrestler and has superstar aura. Too bad that he's a dick on social media.
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>>6145829
Well then maybe they should've put the damn briefcase on Jay back at KOPW. But Tanahashi beating Omega and sending him out of the company just to get clowned in basically every match for a month straight and lose the belt clean as a sheet dilutes Tana and Omega's main event, to me. I don't like it.
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>>6145839
>Great
It was the least inspired IWGP title match since Kenny vs Cody.
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>>6145835
Okada is a good shout for best wrestler on the planet and is 5 years Jay's senior. What's your point in saying he's better?
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>>6145842
He's also a fucking twig who should never be anywhere near a heavyweight belt.
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>>6145842
>Ospreay
>Superstar aura

I've seen some retarded things posted on this Filipino papercraft website but this takes the absolute cake
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>>6145772
OP here. Ospreay is a great babyface, can deliver in-ring and excite the crowd, better than Jay. But he's too small, so I on't want him to move up.
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>>6145839
No it wasn’t. Ishii/Ibushi was great, Naito/omega was great, okada/Tanahashi was great, Hiromu/Taiji was great. This was one of the worst big show main events in the Bushiroad era
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>>6145843
Tana's road from the G1 until he won the belt is pretty much all his beat up body can take, it makes perfect sense that he'd lose the title straight away, he's fucking spent.
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>>6145850
>>6145870
Whatever you say, AEdrones.
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>>6145785
>because the Jap crowds go absolutely bonkers for him
You didn't watch today's match, did you?
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>>6145861
t. Hasn't watched the Jimmy Havoc feud.
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>>6145861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeAY5pGYHV8
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>>6145546
Should have put it on big yen Trent he actually could work and was over with the fans then he wouldn’t have left
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>>6145855
You dumb fuck, when Okada was as young as Jay he could wrestle circles around anyone.
It's not Jay's fault for not being born talented like Okada.
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>>6145896
Singles Trent is shit, I'm glad he jumped ship before they have pushed him.
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>>6145915
Did you even read my post,retard? What are you trying to prove by saying Jay isn't as good as Okada like it's some explosive revelation you just discovered?
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>>6145921
You okay there, buddy? Got the wrong guy here.
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>>6145915
Singles Trent was getting good then they needed another heavyweight tag team and he felt bad for chucky T and brought him in
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>>6145822
We clearly were watching a different match here. Did you mixed it up with their tag match from 2 days ago?
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>>6145643
Omega is great. But he’s spot monkey. There’s nothing wrong with that.
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>>6145935
Yeah, sorry. I meant >>6145907
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>>6145643
You dont actually believe omega has better ring psychology than Jay White... right?
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>>6145843
had ibushi signed earlier he would had been champ at this point
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>>6145972
All his big matches prove it.
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>>6145907
yes and he also couldn`t talk for shit and needed gedo to talk for him for 2 years before he improved it
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>>6145996
Omega doesnt have a single match that cant be topped by jay white in 5 years
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>>6145988
He shall win the New Japan Cup tourney and beat Jay at the MSG.
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>>6145996
All of Omega's big matches are carried by better workers.
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>>6146006
Let me know when he has a match that changes the landscape of professional wrestling. Nice bait though. Have a (You)
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>>6146006
How can you possibly even know that ya simp. This is his ceiling for all we know.
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>>6145880
That was the same kind of stunned silence they had after the first okada/tanahashi match
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>>6146025
What Kenny match changed the landscape of professional wrestling?
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>>6146031
Jay came out to CRICKETS despite being pushed to the moon for a year.
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>>6146044
t. has only been watching NJPW for a month
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>>6146036
WK 11.
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>>6145546
>cringeblade is champ
#CancelNJPWworld
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>>6146050
How did that change the landscape of professional wrestling?
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>>6146052
This
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Again, the western expansion was a mistake.
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>>6146058
Love or hat Kenny you can't deny the dude has done incredibly well for being an outlier and a reject from WWE, the place everyone thought was the only worthwhile company to wrestle for.
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Fuck off you absolute retard, Jay gets heat, both from the Japanese audience and from dumb jabroni marks like you, and that's all that matters. When was the last time a true heel even held the belt in New Japan? They've had "heels" like Naito and AJ hold it in recent years, but I can't even remember the last time they put it on someone with the heat Jay has.

Jay White isn't there to be the face of the company, he's there to make morons like you seethe so that you'll pop huge when Tanahashi/Okada/Naito finally beats him.
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>>6146052
I was actually thinking about doing so, because I haven't been using it lately, thus can't really justify paying $10 a month for it. But since they put the belt on based CHADblade, I'm gonna keep giving them my money.
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>>6146076
Well I wont be watching because I refuse to watch any main event with that shitter. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. So how does driving away viewers help their cause?
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>>6146081
crinfe
>>6146085
bases
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>>6145865
>too small
Taller than Kenny. Just put him on juice
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>>6146058
The buzz that match got put NJPW on the map on a global scale. Literally everyone was talking about it during that time.
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>>6145546
Words cannot express how retarded you are.
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>>6146085
You're going to watch because you desparately want to see Chadblade get his ass beat by Naito/Ibushi/Okada. Don't even try to pretend otherwise.
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>>6146076
Jay's heat and character are perfect. Jay's matches are cancer-inflicting. NJPW is a ring-work promotion. Hopefully that explains why we're unsatisfied.
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>>6146085
gaijin shitters like you make up such a negligible part of their consumer base, assuming you actually pay and aren't just some retard that watches shit on taima or highlights on dailymotion. and for every one of you, there's one of >>6146081

If you can't understand how heel heat draws money, you're just a moron.
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>>6146100
>we're
You and other AEdrones?
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>>6145546
>Jay White isn't big in America
Neither is Kenny Omega.
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>>6146114
I'm not. I'm glad these elite marks fucked off.
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>>6146085
This is why american wrestling is dead.
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>>6146118
Then how come every show Kenny is on in the US sells out.
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>>6146099
I'm not going to watch shit. Nice assumption though kid.
>>6146112
>thinks I'm a burger
It must suck to not only be retarded but also a weeaboo.
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>Getting this worked by a clear traditional heel move

Based Jay bringing the business back to basics
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>>6146099
>You're going to watch
kek okay pal
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>>6146058
the match changed nothing, its a match that has like 2 moments people actually remember, but dave gave it 6 starts and everyone semi new to njpw, not being able to form their own opinions, blindly agreed
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>>6146118
You niggers need to stop telling outright lies. Hate Kenny for legit reasons, don't just start making shit up.
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>>6146144
>>6146150
See you next week.
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Remove every gaijin from NJPW, please.
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>>6145546
Jay White is LITERALLY Donte from DmC:Devil May Cry, the product of a bunch of out of touch japanese businessman chasing the big dollars while completely miss-understanding western tastes.
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>>6146157
You do know there’s a wrestling bubble right?
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>>6146143
Cow palace sold out?
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>>6146233
Not, it was tarpped out hehe
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>>6146149
Wrestling fans are too proud to admit they're getting worked so they rationalize all heat as being go away heat.
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>>6146149
I suppose that you think that Jinder Mahal is a good heel because he sucks too.
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>>6146263
this
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Jay is superior to kennyetty in every way other than match quality, and even then hes not far behind
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>>6146289
I remember watching some youtube video, I think it was a clip of Jay White attacking Tanahashi and Kushida after Kushida's last match in NJPW, anyway in the video Jay White was getting massive heat from the crowd. I scrolled through the comments and found a guy saying "is he really a good heel, or do the fans really not like him?" and I just thought man that's some dumb shit. When those two things stop being synonimous with each other you know the fanbase has gone to shit.
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>>6146291
I unironically agree. Kenny didn’t know how to carry himself as a champion.
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>>6146349
Jay has had the title for actual hours, how on earth do you know how he carries himself as champ?
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>>6146349
Kenny is the booker now?.
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>>6146349
Yeah I noticed that too, it's one of the things I found underwhelming about Kenny's reign honestly, you could almost forget the title was even on him.
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>>6146358
Because he actually has an established character.
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>>6145546
Link to reddit thread where you copy-pasted this from please.
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Based Chadblade making the /woo/tists seethe
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>>6146349
Kenny honestly works much better as an underdog, be it having FIGHTIN SPIRITU or being a bitter heel. I think the secknd he got the title he instantly became bored as fuck because he always has to jump to something else instead of being able to just enjoy the current.
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>>6146395
Ya seethe?
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>>6146349
That I can agree with, anon
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At least with Jay we're safe from getting a promo where he talks about how a challenger is "bringing down his average star rating".
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>>6146501
Thats a really good point
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Jay White's promos are a breath of fresh air. The post-Main Event interview was really good.
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>>6146549
>heel wins
>cuts heel promo
To think that three years ago we had Omega breaking kayfabe on his post match promo after he won the IC belt. Breath of fresh air indeed.
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>>6145546
holy ding-dong diddly cringe chadblade workin' ya into a ding-dong diddly shoot
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>>6146501
Rent free
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>>6145586
>The guy can't be the face of the company
They're not trying to make him the face of the company retard. Having the belt =/= face of the company
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>>6145546
Would look at this yummola body though?
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>>6146931
Its such a shame his face is a fucking disaster. His body really is ding-dong diddly perfect.
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New Japan is a promotion that was build on native vs. foreigner feuds and that will continue. It's a traditional. They know foreigners come and go, and that's why they use them to put over their domestic talent.
I think some of you have lost touch with why you even became a wrestling fan to begin with.
You're way overthinking things and too concerned with the meta when you should surrender yourself to the story being told and enjoy the matches.
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Jay White was being pushed strong long before Kenny left. He isn’t champion because of Kenny. He’s their homegrown white guy. If Kenny was around he’d be jobbing to him within a year.
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Jay White is meh in the ring and even if he improves he is NOT going to get much better. That's how the world works.
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>>6146988

This match was better than the match where Okada won the title
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>>6146944
It's a very British face for sure.
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>>6145546
he deserves it
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>>6147024
But he's a Kiwi
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>>6147070
Yeah, but the white kiwis didn't originally come from NZ.
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guarantee OP has dried cum on his belly
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>>6145546
reddit
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>>6145643
Kenny "Oy vey" Omega
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“He’s young”

He’s almost 30. Time is up for this EdgeLord. He’s not getting better.
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>>6145769
I only watch New Japan to see a white man conquering the lesser races. Without that, I'm out.
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>>6145769
You say this as if foreigners haven't held the title long before they even thought about making their shows accessible overseas.
New Japan still books primarily for the Japanese audience.
The US shows are like downloadable content.
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>>6146153
This is the actual truth
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>>6145546
do they even have another star under 30?
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I wish all these e-drones stopped watching njpw. They cant enjoy anything.
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>>6148063
>REEEEE STOP NOT LIKING WHAT I LIKE REEEE
the world would be better off if fags like you just necked yourself
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>>6146153
>Muh Meltzer
Never mind that the match won every best bout award from major sports publications in Japan as well as fan polls.
Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada (1/4/2017)
Best Bout Award - Tokyo Sports
Best Bout Award - Weekly Pro Wrestling
Match of the Year Award - Nikkan Sports
Best Match - Net Pro Wrestling Awards (Japanese Fan Poll)
It's by far the most critically acclaimed match of all time and in large part was the catalyst of New Japan's current boom.
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>>6148085
that's because it was the main event of their WrestleMania, retard.
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"No one will replace Kenny."

Anon, no-one gave a shit about Kenny until 2017. Not even Meltzer.
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>>6148098
No other Tokyo Dome main event has received the same level of critical acclaim, from western and Japanese media publications and fans alike.
You don't know what you're talking about, you retarded cunt.
No one talks about Okada-Naito from last year because it failed to meet the incredibly high standard set by 'Kader-Omeger.
IDOLS CRIED AFTER WK 11, it was such an affecting performance.
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>>6148159
And guess when they started their meme western expansion? Yes that same year. They needed Kenny for the expansion but now they're in jeopardy without a real western draw.
It's time to plug the plug on the expansion bullshit and save time and money before it's too late.
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>>6148178
fucking mark
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>>6149026
You're fucking stupid like all shitblade fans. Can't wait for this nobody to flop like the fail he is.
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>>6145546
SEETHE with the Dimesblade
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>>6150129
bafed
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>>6146988
The guy's 26. That's a baby in the wrestling world, especially for a guy in his position, getting pushed as the focal point for an entire promotion. He's got plenty of time to improve.
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>>6150337
Are you NEETs seriously so disconnected from reality? Improvement is a fiction meme. It's not impossible but people hit their ceiling a lot earlier than you think and White already hit his. Any improvement from now on is going to be painfully slow for a disproportionately large amount of hard work. He'll be good in the ring 20 years from now when his body will not keep up as well anymore.
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>>6150411
>Okada was the rainmaker at 26
kys
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>>6150411
wrestler's don't peak until 35, bro
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>>6150422
Okada actually showed potential meaning his ceiling is higher than this guy's. Not everyone is equal.
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>>6150411
>Pushing your retarded delusions off as fact
Based
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>>6147683
He's 26 ya sperg, that is not 'almost 30'
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>>6145546
Cringe
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I really liked the match and am happy for the return of a more methodical heel in modern wrestling.
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>>6152206
>the return of a more methodical heel in modern wrestling.

Minoru Suzuki returned to New Japan years ago tho and ZSJ wasn't far behind

>>6148085
>>6148178
>>>lgbt/ FAGua
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>>6152266
werked
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>>6152266
Minoru Suzuki's style is more tweener

Idk why people think Jay's a bad wrestler. The Kenny, Page, Finlay, Juice matches were all great, where he told a great story with good psychology. Yeah, they lack flips, Meltz stars, strong crowd reactions from choppas and cartoonish faces so it might be difficult to tell. Even the first Tana match(WK 12) IMO was better than their kopw one with Kenny one being the best. I think he can have a good match as anyone else if the ending is booked better and he's already getting good reactions
I mean he's not Okada but he's not lower than the NJ midcarders at the very least
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>>6145546
Ya fume?
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Why is everyone talking about this now? Didnt he win the belt like a week or two ago?
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You guys seriously didn't see this coming after Wrestle Kingdom? I don't even watch NJPW religiously, but I saw it coming from a mile away. Tanahashi wasn't gonna have a long reign.
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>>6153079
No. A few weeks ago he made Tanahashi tap in the middle of the ring.
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>>6153079
He won the belt 2 days ago but he has been terrorising Grandpa Ace for a while now.
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>>6145586
>face of the company
Opinion discarded
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>>6153675
I honestly don't know how anyone could have been retarded enough to believe otherwise. But then again, never underestimate the severe stupidity of the average mark.
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>>6146335
>"is he really a good heel, or do the fans really not like him?"
Smarks and the death of kayfabe killed the business.
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You fags know what this is leading up to, right? This man is gonna beat Chadblade and finally get his deserved reign.
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>>6153775
This isn't mid 2000s, unfortunately. I'd take based Inokiism and Ishii as the champ instead of pretty boys and twinks, but that would kill the company for sure.
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>>6153801
It's gonna happen. The manlet is gonna do it. The field is wide open for him.
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>>6153807
Sorry dude, it's time to wake up from your delusions. Ishii will never win the big gold.
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>>6145626
>and seems completely loyal to NJPW, he'll be fine
How many times did you say this about Omega?
>mu-muh gaijin wrestler bought a house in Japan
No western wrestler will ever be totally loyal to them
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>>6153813
I use the same argument every time, but here I go again:
If Nakanishi got it, Ishii deserves it too.
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>>6153824
People need to stop thinking that NJPW is interested in eternal loyalty to begin with. Jay White as the champion right now shakes things up and creates interest. He helps the USA scene that New Japan is trying to expand on. Not everything is a 4D set up chess move for 600 years down the line.
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>>6153851
Nakanishi got the belt 10 fucking years ago when the company wasn't under Bushiroad. They were at the end of their dark ages period, they will never go back to that time and push wrestlers like Ishii.
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>>6153879
Even when Nakanishi got the belt, there were a billion more deserving people around. But they did it because the guy had been a consistent performer that was respected for decades. It was a "NJPW Dad" gold watch deal. Ishii deserves it for the exact same reason. If not now, then later down the line. It's gonna fucking happen.
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>>6153775
Look I love Ishii but he is never gonna be it. Fans dont care about someone who looks like him and thats the long and short of it.
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>>6153902
If that’s the case goto will be the one getting one. Not ishii
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>>6153902
I want him to get the belt as much as you but you're dangerously deluding yourself here, fren. He's ain't getting the big gold, ever.
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>>6153904
>muh belt = face of the company
People still fall for this shit lol
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>>6145626
>His character and in ring psychology is already twice as good as Omega's
imagine knowing so little about wrestling that you believe this
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>>6153906
Dare I dream for both getting a reign before their careers are over?
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>>6153934
You'll be dreaming forever then because that will never happen.
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>>6153946
Nakanishi
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>>6153927
He's right though.
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>>6153956
Let it go anon.
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>>6145546
This guy needs to grow a fucking chin
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>>6154063
Chins don't draw dimes anymore.



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