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What is the smartest animal besides h*mans?
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Corvids, dolphins, octopuses, pigs, primates. In that order.
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Otters
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>>3139473
bonobos
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>>3139493
Corvids are smart yeah, but conpared to primates? They are just bird brains
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>>3139499
They are at the very least as smart as primates, while having tiny tiny brains in comparison. Hence, they are the smartest.
I can't link research, because fucking spam prevention for reasons.
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>>3139499
They use 7 nm 3D lithography, while mammals still can't get beyond 14++ nm
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>>3139510
ha
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>>3139499
Corvids can into tools. Primates can't even compete in that field.
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>>3139518
chimps use tools and weapons
they also engage in trade and prostitution
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>>3139522
Corvids like to chill out and have fun.
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>>3139522
>orangutan_trying_to_hammer_nails.webm
It doesn't take much mental capacity to swing a blunt object. Precision and accuracy matter.
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>>3139528
lots of very stupid animals engage in play
>>3139530
>it's not tool use if its clumsy!
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>>3139493
>octopuses have a miniscule lifespan
why were they cursed to this fate?
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>>3139493
> ocotpuses over pigs
> pigs over primates
I'm all for not putting primates on a pedastal and ignoring other species, but how are ocotpuses and pigs smarter than chimpanzees?
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>>3139553
Already explained with Corvids, I base it on brain size too.
Relative not absolute smartness. Octopuses have comparatively simple brains, but can use tools and solve problems.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6062618/
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>>3139587
Ah I see, so an octopus isn't smarter than a chimp, but when you consider it as a somewhat simply-constructed invertebrate its smart.

Yeah that makes sense, tho imo it doesn't answer the specific question that well.
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>>3139493
Since crows are so intelligent do you think killing crows should be illegal?
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>>3139596
No, rather they have all comparable intelligence, and my subjective ranking is based on how impressive it is.
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>>3139493
how are pigs smart
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>>3139814
https://escholarship.org/uc/item/8sx4s79c#page-1
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>>3139536
I think their short lifespan is their biggest blessing.
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>>3139601
Killing native crows is illegal in the US.
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>>3140473
his line of reasoning is better than yours because we can't use the same intelligence tests for different species so they're not really comparable anyways.
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>>3139493
whales > birds > [spoiler]dogs[/spoiler] > primates
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>>3139531
Birds are savvier with tools than primates.
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>>3140496
birds almost never use tools in the wild, chimps regularly do.
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>>3140498
Because birds are born with pretty high quality all-in-one tool.
But sometimes it is not enough.
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>>3140498
They don't have opposable thumbs, much less arms, faggot.
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>>3140491
What a retarded cope.

If you're claiming it's impossible to guess intelligence with testing, then his claim is equally impossible but with extra conditions on top.

Fuck you're stupid
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octopuses
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>>3139587
Octo-brain is a very different beast compared to the others who condense a processing/control center. Correct me if I'm wrong but octopus 'Central' Nervous Systmlem is more evenly distributed throughout their body volume
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>>3140538
>his claim is equally impossible but with extra conditions on top.
his claim removes conditions rather than adding them.

he starts with the true assumption that intelligence isn't directly comparable between species. Morons like yourself miss the subtlety.
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>>3140515
cope

you can't say they're savvier with tools and then give excuses when you're proven wrong. well, you can, but it just looks weak.
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>>3142723
Savvier =/= More skillfull
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Corvids, obviously.
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>>3139473
dolphins and elephants
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>>3139473
Most chimpanzees use tools in the wild and can be taught to speak in simple sign language. No other non-human animal is at that level.
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>>3139473
dolphins, niggers, corvids
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>>3139473
Orcas
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ITT: "smart" animals who only use their intelligence to find different ways to obtain a reward
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>>3143124
Don't put those niggers on the same level as more intelligent species.



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