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Just wanted to share that some succ nodes I grabbed from the floor at home Depot are sprouting after being forgotten in my car for a week. Hardy little dudes.
you forgot to post the last thread in the OP.will be at a plant expo tomorrow, will take pics.
>>3134320>you forgot to post the last thread in the OP.my badPREVIOUS THREAD>>3119256>>3119256>>3119256
>>3134316>>3134317>>3134318beautiful pics anon. i always wonder why the rootlets of leaf cutting go the way they do. i've had many go the way of your first two pics, i.e. all over the place, but it's nice to see some sensible leaves like your last pic, he knows just where to go.
>tfw its autumn and have to wait 6 months until it becomes green again
>>3134341trees are green till like october here and then the spring bulbs already start forming rosettes
>>3134308>The Plant General - Autumn EditionIt's actually spring. Has been for a week now.
Hey, guys! Does anyone know what's wrong with my orchid?
>>3134338Well, hes got those leaves upside down. Gravity takes roots in one direction but if they are sprouting from the opposite side it makes it harder. Also he said they rooted in his car so he prob just moved them
I'm home from the plant market/visiting the botanic garden of Utrecht.will post pics.
araflora was there btw
almost bought one of these fat ass ant plants
I like the concept of these but ain't got space for it.
almost like someone barfed on it.
there's a big ass rock garden on an island.
some shit that I liked on the island.
figured someone here would care for these hardy cacti
there was so much shit to see I didn't even get to see it all.
imagine constructing a waterfall just to grow a shit ton of moss.
they had these ditches running throughout the rock garden.didn't really like it, they're supposed to be dry habitats.
nice aconitumugly shape tho.
some shit with seeds
no idea what this is but it reminds me of blechnum spicant so it's probably related to that.
finally a rhodo that I don't hate
my dad likes Fraxinus so I took this picture.
thick shit weed
those large shitty ditch weeds people obsess overcouldn't find a brick to throw at it, fuck lillies.
here's some orchids
boring ass rocks
think I got like 5 cardboard boxes filled with shit like this in my basement also, used to collect it as kid.
plants I bought
almost forgotthought of you when I saw this, lillyanon.
what the hell is this? i dont understandare they all roots? if I put this in a bigger jar with fresh soil, will it grow?
are avocado trees really that difficult to grow? which season is best to start them?and what is it that makes the take so long to fruit? if I have an avocado tree already would putting a pot plant avocado near it during flowering make it develop fruit?
are hori hori knives legit? what brand or model should I get?
>>3135120the walkways were more dangerous than the plants.
>>3135175yes, it needs repotting into a slightly larger pot.the term is 'potbound'
>>3134841All true. Excellent assessment.
lil frog on big banana leaf, happy Saturday /plant/anons
>>3134341That's why I have almost all evergreens in my garden.
>>3135325Phyllostachys vivax, it's the thickest species they had.
>>3134308I want to plant passion vine as a hedge buthave been discouraged because of people saying they attract snakes,how true is this & is there a way to mitigate this?
>>3134966Water lilies are pretty and have great looking flowers
>>3135379they're useless as pond plants and people should plant less of them in favour of more beneficial aquatic plants.
>>3134966PLONT NOO!! YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LIKE PLONTS !
>>3135373let me get this straight, you want to plant a vine as a hedge.>>3135391waterlillies are as common as grass in my country.
observe, my collection of nametags.
this side could use more nametags
Posting my newest small pinus, Pinus heldreichii (Irish Bell Bosnian Pine)>>3134948Awesome pics anon, saved.>>3134987I'm jealous.>>3135373My best advice is to keep the vines clear of foliage at least a foot above ground level to discourage sneks from hiding in the vines.>>3135391Not all plants are created equal, although all plants deserve love.
>>3135408i will create a structure with poles and shape them through this
>>3135433thnx about the passion. dont want to risk especially since there are kids around
Posting banana before it rots away for the winter.>>3135408>>3135411>>3135413Absolutely awesome my dude! The natural arrangement of the rocks is tremendous. And the pond is filling in nicely too.
>>3135408>>3135411>>3135413them rocks a changinlooks good anon keep up the good worksomething to aspire to
>>3135408Not him but dude you should collect the water lily flowers and soak them in some wine
Ive been starting my seeds in small pots and putting a ziplock bag over them as a green house effect.when are you supposed to take off the bag?
>>3135562ziplock onlu needed for germination, after, you take off
>>3135562wind good for seeling
>>3135566so just until a bit of green starts poking out?
Thinking to chuck the aloe vera (above) into this strawberry pot with some spider plants and jade plants in the side pockets (and any other succulents I find around the place).Would 1 part general purpose potting mix to 1 part propagation sand be a good mix?
>>3135434you'd end up with gaping holes throughout your entire hedge as they're only develope new branches in the top part of the plant, like a vine, they grew in the wild in Greece and people used them for hedges, it did not look very good and I also didn't see any snakes in it.>>3135519it's been raining a lot so they've absorbed a lot of water, hence why they're darker than usual.>>3135538pretty sure that's just the blue lilly which isn't native here.suprising considering we have like 20 species, my favourite being Nymphoides peltata.>found the plant I was looking for on the plant market by the way, campanula zoysii.
>>3135691the flowers.this species is a pain in the ass to find and dies on pretty much everyone within a few years.think I know what it wants tho.
>>3135569after first true leaf grows
>>3134833I can't believe that none of the elitists on this general replied to your question. It just goes to show that they are all a bunch of cunts. My best guess is that your orchid has herpes.>>3135186No cunt seems to be answering questions here, so I'll have a go.Producing flowers and fruit takes loads of energy and resources. Expending loads of energy and resources is something you only want to do if you have loads of energy and resources, or if you think you're going to die, so you put everything you have into one last shot at reproduction.It's like how having a massive hangover makes you want to masturbate. Your body thinks it's dying so it wants to get the jizz out.Also, you can't build a skyscraper without setting down some foundations.In terms of avocado trees, lemon trees, et cetera, what happens is that you buy them in small pots, you take them home and put them in bigger pots or put them in the ground. You want them to focus on giving you fruit, but they need to focus on building an underground root network so they can suck up loads of water and nutrients and build something resembling a tree above ground.Only once they've finished doing that will they be in a position to devote the extraordinary amount of energy and resources needed to produce an avocado. Hence the delay in providing you with the fruit that you demand immediately. You goddamn millennials.>>3135175That is an amazing photo. Don't delete it. Plant that ponytail in something else and watch it get bigger. It will get to a critical mass and start breaking pots for fun.>>3135314ese sapo es el mejor>>3135562>when are you supposed to take off the bag?Put a bag over your own head and see how long you like it.
>>3135734it's edema if you're wondering.don't bother helping people who didn't even bother to tell you what species it is though.
>>3135738>don't bother helping people who didn't even bother to tell you what species it is though.I know that you're very proud of your own knowledge, but not everyone knows the species of their plant.Many plants come without labels. Many people don't even understand the concept of species.If you don't want to help newfriends why are you even posting on a newfriend plant general?
>>3135746don't worry about bugguy. he's very knowledgable, but sadly incapable of any positive social interaction.
>>3135746if you're incapable of identifying something as simple as a phalaenopsis consider that you're probably too retarded to be taking care of anything that's alive.
>>3135667add some grit instead of sand.too much sand actually reduces drainage.
>>3135754If you're trying to be a big man posting in a dead general on a dead board on fucking 4chan in fucking 2019 you are pretty much beyond help.But hopefully newfriends who come here asking basic questions about beginner plants will get answers to those questions and will go on to enjoy their plants and help other people and not be a cunt like you.
>>3135762To be honest, newfriends asking basic questions about beginner plants should just go to Stackexchange gardening.
>>3135758It's coarse 'propagation sand' which says it is for cacti and things. I will chuck in some gravel as well. Should I do a layer of rocks on the bottom?
>>3135762uneducated faggots and women with a shallow interest in plants are the majority of every botany related forum or chat and can stay the fuck away for anyone cares.take your shitty night sky petunias elsewhere.>gentiana farreri
>>3135767coarse sand is the only sand suitable for potting medium, but it still should be no more than 20% of the mixture, whereas you should have 40-50% grit for succulents.my succ mix is basically 30% soil 20% coarse sand and 50% grit, with a few extra little bits.and don't add rocks to the bottom. it's a meme. actually decreases drainage.
Really ashamed to ask about this - what's the meta for tending store-bought herbs? They are dirt cheap (1eur/usd) and I've never been much into plants however I vaguely recall from middle school cellular biochemistry classes that market chains tend to abuse their metabolic cycle or something so I'm worried that my mint that was gurgling 100ml of water per day is a tweaker or worse.
>>3135789Ah thanks. I will get something more to put in. When you say grit would that be like perlite? The options I saw when grabbing potting mix were standard soil, sand, perlite, charcoal, peat moss or mulch.
>>3135373the structure must be a little wide if you want it to cover everything. passion vines are not very dense. I dont know why it should attract sneks, sounds like some folklore tale
>>3135327recommend me some hardy evergreens. The more uncommon the better.
ok I have my wranglers on and im omw to home depot, what kinda plants should I buy?
I have an avocado seed which has sprouted. It is 15cm tall with some nice leaves. Seems like a lot of guides say to cut it back to half the height when it is at this point. How legit is that? It's the first time I have managed to get an avocado seed to go this far after quite a few attempts and I don't want it to be wrecked. If I cut down that far it will have no leaves anymore.Still in a jar of water at this stage.
>>3135796grit is small pieces of crushed stone, like pic related. all garden centres sell it, but the specific stone might vary from country to country. in the UK, it's made from crushed flint.i don't like the lightness/dustiness of perlite, shit floats to the top of the soil and is just generally annoying.
if anyone is interested in any rare dutch/west euro natives let me know I'll take some seeds if I find them and take pictures during their growing phases since they're rarely documented anywhere.easier to grow them yourself if you know what to expect them to look like.
seeded some galium verum for that one anon that wanted to grow entire fields of them a few threads ago.also potted up some saponaria officinalis seeds since I don't know what they look like when they're small myself.>free sphag
>>3135812I am in Australia. I have seen rocks like that sold as bonsai stones. Otherwise there is a lot of landscaping gravel variants. Would that kind of thing be ok or would it mess with the minerals/pH?Having a look through the Bunnings web catalogue now
>>3135820drive to your local sand deposit/construction retailer and check what kind of gravel they have, they often also list it on their website.just google what type of rock it is to figure whether you should use it or not, some rocks are alkaline while others are acidic, you can use this in your advantage because you're gonna need rocks with a higher pH if you're using sphagnum with neutral species, since sphagnum as medium is low in pH.
My normie ass Crassula capitella actually is on the verge of blooming, surprisingly.>>3135694Top tier alpine>>3135734>ese sapo es el mejormuy bien gracias>>3135779While I agree that mine and many other posters plants are normie tier compared to what you have and post, we all gotta start somewhere, bugfren.>>3135800I just got some sale herbs at home depot but I recommend looking for semi rare succs and cacti, I found an almost dead ficus bonsai at Lowe's once marked from $30 to $7 once, nice pot too. The poor fella was potted so compact it couldn't get water soaked into the soil so I re-potted it and it came back to life.
>>3135858there's a difference between normie plants and bottom of the barrel shit tier like the retards that grow avocado from seed.it doesn't even grow true from seed, you're going to get shitty fruit from your already shitty plant reeeeeeeeee>helichrysum milfordiae
Mystery plant I saw at farm supply store, if anyone wants to ID.>>3135863>it doesn't even grow true from seed, you're going to get shitty fruit from your already shitty plantHoly fuck, good to know. A little studying goes a long way.
>>3135873almost all commercial fruit doesn't grow true from fruit and it doesn't have any point to collect seeds from the shit you eat.>cerastium alpinum var. lanatum
>>3135873That's a hybrid Kalanchoe 'Elk Antlers'
Posting dwarf Kenilworth ivy, it's the last plant to go in my new stone path and then I'll post the whole thing, 16 or so different foot traffic tolerable plants, it's been my project for the whole summer.>>3135884Ah, yeah. I kinda knew that in the back of my mind but didn't know how many of those it applied to, makes sense.>>3135894Thanks, anon. Gonna try my best not to post sideways pictures anymore. t.phoneposter
Why do I have such a powerful Grandma instinct with my plants?Every time I look at them I feel the urge to water them and fertilize them, even when I know I've just done it this morning. I KNOW that they don't need any more water, but I still want to give it to them so that they can grow big and strong. It takes active effort on my part not to kill my plants with too much care.
can i take part of Hibiscus rosa from mother plant now to make baby plant? will it grow roots? i have read that time for this is from may till june :(
Muh new alba wisteria growth, hope it blooms over the arbor next spring.>>3135938Don't be afraid to give your plants tough love, study on how much stress your specific plant can handle and DO IT. Kinda like how the color of some succs becomes much more pretty if you deny them of water for a while, I know it's hard but they will be healthier in the long run.>>3135954I don't have much experience with hibiscus or making new starts from mother plants but your best bet is to buy some root starter to guarantee your baby plant to take root.
>>3135967can i make root starter myself?
>>3135969No clue, ask google. I'm an amateur :^)
>>3135967does root starter have long shelf life?
>>3135967>Kinda like how the color of some succs becomes much more pretty if you deny them of water for a whiledon't much care about them being pretty, care more about them being healthy.
>>3135969i mean, theoretically, yes, because it's made from hormones that are present in all plants, but i have no idea how you would extract it.
Anyone know what this is? Found it on the edge of a meadow so I took a few of them. I thought it was a horse tail at first but the dirt was dry there
Planted a couple of tropical hibiscuses today in south florida. New to gardening as a hobby, any tips to keep it alive? I've read/been told conflicting information about what constitutes overwatering in the first couple weeks before the plant becomes established
>>3135863I am not growing it for fruit you turbo-autist.
I'm growing radishes and some of the red is showing. Should I cover it with soil or just let it be?
>>3135793Don't be ashamed. Not everyone here is an abusive, elitist arsehole.I don't know what "abusing a metabolic cycle" means, though growers do create artificial conditions for things like poinsettias and rhubarb.Most plants like lots of water, especially fast-growing weedy things like mint. When you think about, plants are on a liquid diet - most of the nutrients they use for growth come in the water they suck up through their roots. They have to go through a lot of water to extract the food they need. >>3135873Commercial fruit trees, including the avocado and citrus trees you buy at your local garden centre, are almost all grafted onto more sturdy rootstock.>>3135969I find it odd that you would consider trying to make rooting powder from scratch when you can't be bothered typing "how to propagate hibiscus" into google. FYI, the first google result says that propagating hibiscus cuttings is best done in spring.>>3136341Let it be.
>>3136385>Let it be.
>>3136672It's not bait if it's actually spring in straya ye cunt
>>3136281i'm sure you're growing an advocado for aesthetic reasons lmao
are felco secateurs worth the investment?what's the classic/standard model to get and as a left handed person would getting the left handed cutters make a noticeable difference?
>>3136829depends how much you use them i guess. you can get felco-style secateurs for a fraction of the price, and they work just fine but might not last as long.i have a pair of felco no2 that's lasted me over a decade of regular use, only replaced the blade a couple of times. no2 is the general all-rounder model.
Posting my beloved driveway crack garden, all the plants took the summer heat surprisingly well. Only plant that's still recovering is Thymus serpyllum.>>3135978I don't know, never bought any.>>3135979That's just one example of how tough love and not giving your plants grandma care will bring your plants to their full potential.>>3136260Wish I could help but I'm in the exact opposite corner of the USA, pacific northwest.>>3136723That's a super neat little plant, is it in your rock thingy?>>3136885Noice.
>>3137155that's a big one, this species is smaller.both in rock garden.
>>3137155unironicaly a beautiful pic anon. normally i would scrape that shit out with a small trowel, but you do what you love, don't let anybody stop you.
>>3134308would this be good for keeping 6 plant 5 gallon containers bug free?https://www.walmart.com/ip/Camp-Mosquito-Net-Double/47422626?
Anyone chilling on /plant/?
>>3137446cacti are the best plant family
>>3137447if by best you mean least interesting.not even the best in xeric areas.>Neotinea ustulata
My first tiny harvest ever. It wasn't amazing but it's a start.
>>3137714I bet it tasted better just because you grew it yourself. It always does.
>>3137625nah, sheeple dont know the rare interesting ones
Does anyone on here have experience germinating cycas revoluta seeds? I asked a gardener that was cutting off the flowers if I could take the seeds and I found 13 good promising ones.Can I put them on clay pebbles instead of vermiculite?Do I need to heat them (I live in a Mediterranean climate and I would keep them inside)?Do I need to bury them completely, slightly or just lay them on top of the clay/vermiculite?Once the first leaflets appear, do I put them in a pot or wait?
>>3137749none of the rare species actually look good and they're so easy to cultivate that all species that look good are available to normies.
>my plants are better than yours>no, mine are best>and so on
>>3137961you'll understand once you grow your own obscure niche plants.
Need your help identifying this one, please. My mom bought it on AliExpress thinking she bought a Venus flytrap but this sprouted instead, what is it?
>>3136385mint anon here, thanks for the input, wasn't sure that albeit being around 10-20g plant itself, my herb should be ingesting 100ml of water daily. It sure still seems so outlandish to me, but hey at long as it's growing it works for me. As for the metabolic stuff - it was really long time ago, don't even have any clue where should I look it up anymore (apart from basic stuff like NAD etc), guess it's beauty of europoor education - we get a lot of comprehensive information about lots of stuff at the young age and albeit it disappears after a while it somehow happens to make a difference (speaking on acount of what some burgers write all over the net about basic algebra and some such)
>>3137945>>3137972>plants need to be rare and obscure to be worth liking>plants liked by normies aren't to be liked>plants being readily available is a bad thing>plants need to be rare and obscure to be worthwhileOh wow, a contrarian on 4chan? Of all places! I'm shocked
sup m8smy buddy has an office plant in an area that I can't take pictures in. it popped out a bunch of seeds and now I'm growing one for myself.i've drawn you a picture of it. can you tell me what the fuck it is?
woo looks like my avocado seed is starting to shoot outis it too soon to bring him outside for some real sun and getting used to the outdoors? its spring down here and expecting 18'c (65'f) days for the next week with some showers every few dayshe has just been sitting by the window for the past couple of months and showed his face in the past week
>>3138368>10-20g plant ... ingesting 100ml of water dailyAre you sure that's what's happening? Most of the water that you put on a plant drains straight out the bottom of the pot. Some of it evaporates, some of it is used by other organisms in the growing medium.Your plant is probably only taking up a small fraction of what you put on it.And of the water that it does take up, only a small fraction of that is for its own metabolic water requirements.Most of the water that plants suck up is purely for the purpose of getting nutrients out of it.All the excess water is usually transpired out of their leaves. The water vapour that the plants of the Amazon rainforest spew out into the air through their leaves creates an aerial river that carries more water than the actual Amazon River.Mind blown, right?>>3138479The process of introducing seedlings to the great outdoors is called hardening off.Your best bet is to google "hardening off" and avocado.
I just learned that you can put marijuana on agar and propagate it that way. Being that I already do sterile agar work frequently I’m extremely excited about this and I’ve since learned this applies to most plants (I think hypothetically all plants but it becomes more difficult with factors such as sap and woody species). Fortunately I only care about my weed and watermelons. So now that I know I can essentially propagate a mother plant indefinitely I’m looking into really going hard and going to take my melon breeding more seriously. Previously I just lazily saved seeds and rebought every few years. So to gear up for next summer I’d like to get as many generations under my belt as possible, since I’ve never really bred before I need to power level, so I’m wondering what you might recommend for a small scale short grow cycle experiment? Short cycle so I can shitloads of grows in. A flower or so would be cool. I’ll buy lights need be.Thanks!! I’ll keep y’all upd8d
>>3138652D U D EWEED
>>3138306>planted in a tincan
>>3138456euphorbia leuconeura?>>3137945funny you say that about cacti but think your shitty alpines are any better in that regard
>>3138676>posted with a cringefrog
What is this plant? My brother gave it to me when it was literally a twig with one leaf on it. Now it has grown to this and has this weird thing on top
>>3138746Euphorbia leuconeurangl, i'm jelly
>>3138754Whoa, looks awesome. Thanks for the id.
>>3138369there's nothing wrong with commonly available normie plants, feel free to post them on every gardening website ever since they're all primarely beginners that will lose interest before ever growing anything worth paying attention to.>>3138698alpines aren't even comparable to cacti in terms of difficulty.it's like comparing an elephant to a fly.
>>3138698>euphorbia leuconeurathanks anon, that's the right one
>>3134938anon what is that
how do i clean my cactus? i changed the soil and its covered in soil
>>3138824it says what it is in the comment.it's some kind of myrmecophyte, the araflora guy had them so they're probably on his website.
>>3138767>alpines>keep dry in winterwoah that was difficult, how do you even do it anon?
>>3138832use a soft brush.
>>3138746fyi, the woody looking stem below the furry stem is actually the taproot. the furry part is the actual stem.i've seen a few people growing these with exposed taproot, but you can also pot it deeper if you like, in future.
>>3138854that's just one of many requirements.some species are so hard to grow that no one has them in cultivation, if they're even available in the first place because there often isn't even seed available.almost every 'rare' cactus species can be found on ebay within 30 seconds, they're all easy to germinate and grow, which they also readily do from cuttings.meanwhile virtually all alpine seed requires stratification and has a low survival rate to maturity, they're incomparable.
>>3138869Nobody has them in cultivation because very few young people care and/or have a garden that they can fuck with. That doesn't make them special or better but i'm not sure it's worth trying to argue with an autistic narcissist. Pretty much everything you said about 'some' alpines is true for 'some' cacti. They require several months of cold dormancy to flower and usually only reach reproductive maturity after many years. Huge majority of rare species grows by a couple mm a year and i'm not even sure how you propose to take a cutting of anything but fast growing columnars or arborescent ones (that aren't rare to begin with). If something is "rare" and available on ebay within 30 seconds then it's not rare, you're just not into that particular family enough to know the actually rare ones. I'm an orchidfag and I don't really enjoy cacti either but your autistic fixation on one group of plants is mildly annoying.
>>3138884the slowest cacti (and probably slowest plant ever btw) is aztekium ritteri and grows 1mm a year, most likely it grows faster once it is big ? decades old ones are 8-9cm and cost over 1500€
>>3138884nobody has them because they're hard to get to, expensive and never last for anyone in cultivation ever.>you're just not into that particular family enough to know the actually rare ones.all of the ones you've posted claiming they were rare are easy to get.you're only further proving my point, the only 'hard' to grow cacti, are alpine cacti, and you also don't own any of them.>>3138889you're gonna cry once you what kind of habitat it grows in.
>>3138913I haven't posted any cacti and I don't own any cacti. >>3138910I was being polite
>>3138915'alpine' isn't a limited group of plants, it's a set of growing conditions, which are objectively the hardest to achieve in a garden setting.keeping shit warm if they're more tropical is a whole lot easier than keeping it colder without limiting sunlight.
>>3138917>a particular set of conditions that only supports a particular set of plants isn't the same as a group of plantsright>objectively the hardestSo you're special for growing plants that aren't suited to your climate "in a garden setting" I'm sure cloud forest orchids in a cold temperate region "in a garden setting" would be even harder. Maybe a mexican gypsum cliff garden in thailand? Maybe an adansonia garden in yakutsk? The possibilities are endless, you should try it. Imagine the internet cool guy points you would get.
>>3138934>I'm sure cloud forest orchids in a cold temperate region "in a garden setting" would be even harder.cloud forest orchids are actually pretty easy to grow, picture related is my favourite species.changing the microclimate of your garden to fit the types of plants you like is about as dedicated as you can get.
>>3138937You grow your masdevallias in your garden? Pretty jelly, not gonna lie. I need to keep them in a terrarium in my basement to shield them from 40C heatwaves, low humidity and -20C winters.
>>3138939had them in a terrarium in my north-facing room when I still kept orchids.I have rare terrestrial orchids in my garden if you're interested, they're below ground right now tho.
>>3138917>which are objectively the hardest to achieve in a garden setting.not if you live at high altitude
>>3138865Interesting. Thanks for the info.
>>3138949the type of person to live on top of a mountain is usually not the kind to be into gardening.
>>3138995wait are you implying no fags live on mountain tops?that can't be right
>>3139003definitely not true for my area
>>3139003fags don't tend to be into flowers, only one of the guys i regularly exchange seeds with is gay.
>>3139003Have sex with a man. You'll feel a lot better.
>>3139109>what do you meeaaaan society acknowledges that fashion is for gays? I think yooooou'rre gaydamn good turn about, lance
>>3139176Are you saying that you're not the closet case who keeps coming in here projecting about how flowers are gay and people who like plants are all super-super-gay?If so, you must be quite embarrassed to have been confused with him!
>>3139190oh I forgot how catty you queens get...>I bet you lock cats in your hard and kill them, HISS!
>>3138995i think this statement is false
>>3138671I K N O W N O Wany advice though retard? I was thinking dandelions could be fun to breed for fatass flowers to preserve but I guess dandelions are gay?
why is everyone in this thread so mad
>>3139377You come off real high and unpleasant. Maybe you should just google plant tissue culture and work it out yourself. It won't be that hard since practically every nursery does it and you've already told us about your technical expertise.
>>3139403It's not everyone. Just the closet cases and toxofriends.
hey /out/, which plant should i get, if i wanna be as reddit as possible?whats the most "normans ruuu" plant there is?
>>3139408i don't mean any offense by it, it's just that most people who buy and grow flowers are homosexuals. not the women, they can do women's work and not be gay.
>>3139489gardening isn't actually a feminine hobby, virtually all gardeners are male, the only groups that are primarely female are those that keep succulents.bitches love sempervivums for some reason.>>3139441night sky petunia.
>>3139205Fug pitbuggulls in general but a broken clock is right twice a day, as they say.
Is /plant/ the most insufferable general on 4chan? I think it might be.
Renting my grandfather's old house and looking to spruce up the garden a bit. Mulched today, did some spraying yesterday. Going to see what's available at the market on Saturday but I want to plant some suitable Australian natives to match the cottage garden style, and I'm also thinking about seeding the beds with a decorative amaranth to compete with the weeds a bit better, seeing as it's probably a weed itself, just pretty.I need to read up on indoor plants too. Bit of a meme at the moment, but the interior is pretty dead. Part of that is that there's no lounge or armchairs back here yet, or rugs, but both of those are more expensive then making better use of my pots and getting some cuttings or seedlings of something.
>>3139665Any general that has anons posting negative criticism without any OC or opinions that are not relevant to the thread will have problems. To me the problem partly lies with the insufferable faggots that do this shit. Like (You)
>>3139665post your plants or fuck off.>>3139678don't forget to add a few rocks to match the landscape.
I need some yuge thicc fast growing perennial that is not a tree to shield my hammock area from southern sun. Zone 6a. Will i regret miscanthus?
>>3139665We are insufferable towards retards like you who don't post plants or plant related material.
My pond needs more plants. What should I add?So far I have: Sagittaria sagittifolia, Marsilea quadrifolia, Eleocharis palustris, Hippuris vulgaris and Ranunculus lingua I want the pond to become a suitable environment for amphibians
>>3139772look into Eupatorium, it's everything you want and more.miscanthus is boomer tier, they love shoving that shit in ugly raised decorative beds made from concrete blocks that look like coffins.>>3139795here's the plants I have in my pond:Groenlandia densaCeratophyllum tanaiticumLysimachia thyrsifloraMyosotis scorpioides subsp. scorpioidesRanunculus aquatilisCallitriche platycarpaFontinalis antipyreticaCicuta virosaAlisma plantago-aquaticaPilularia globuliferaLuronium natansAponogeton distachyosHippuris vulgarisPotamogeton acutifoliusHottonia palustrisHydrocharis morsus-ranaeLobelia sessilifoliaAnagallis tenellaMazus reptansMimulus ringensEutrema japonicumSisyrinchium californicumVeronica beccabungaHypericum elodes
>>3139807I tried to introduce Hottonia palustris twice but mayfly nymphs always find a way to destroy it.Guess I should let it grow indoors before putting it in the pond.
>>3139809I use it as bait to prevent everything from eating the other plants, it's a common native aquatic plant here that grows in virtually every ditch that isn't completely overgrown with waterlillies.picture related is my pond, it's long but very narrow and shallow, only got it to keep newts.
How does direct sunlight compare to indirect sunlight? Can it be quantified somehow, like 1h direct is equivalent to 4 hours indirect, or it completely incomparable? I have two places for for plants in my apartment: -an eastern window that gets direct sunlight for about one our in the morning, then is in the shadow for the rest of the day-a southern window with a balcony above me. It never gets direct sunlight but the sun is just of reach, meaning that the sky is still quite bright all day.I know different plants have different preferences, but if we're talking about sun-loving ones, which one would be a better choice?
>>3139823>Can it be quantified somehowfull sun is 6+ hours of direct sunlight, you'll need a southern facing window for this.partial shade is west or east, it's about 3+ hours of direct sun.shade is north, it's less than 3 hours.may vary by country and season.
>>3139678>australian natives>cottage gardendoesn't make sense to me, but i'm very interested to hear more.
>>3139823>Can it be quantified somehowyes, the unit of measurement is called a 'Lumen' you can find minimum required lumens for many plants, esp houseplants with just a quick search.it's well worth remembering that a sunless spot indoors is far darker than any forest floor, and very few plants will thrive in such a setting.your eastern facing window will be suitable for many plants, aside from the most sun-hungry.a southern facing window is ideal for sun hungry plants like succulents and many flowering houseplants.>>3139881>full sun is 6+ hours of direct sunlightthis. if you don't get 6 or more hours of sunlight during the day, i would advise against growing anything like a succulent or cacti, it will just get etiolated. but there's still a lot of options.
>>3139895>the unit of measurement is called a 'Lumen' you can find minimum required lumens for many plants, esp houseplants with just a quick search.just a heads up, it's a pain to measure accurately without specialized equipment as it's influenced by a lot of factors, i.e weather, climate, microclimate, etc.you can make a rough estimation just by counting the hours but it won't be accurate enough for the most autistic of plants, that tiny bit of difference means the difference between thriving and barely hanging on to them.
>>3139901also true. i just go by sunlight hours myself.wasn't suggesting anybody go out and buy a lux metre, but thought it might interest anon to know there is a specific unit of measurement for it, because, well, he asked.
>>3139901>just a heads up, it's a pain to measure accurately without specialized equipment as it's influenced by a lot of factors, i.e weather, climate, microclimate, etc.shit, I was just bout to ask that. Specifically, I wanted to know if there are any devices (not bankrupcy-level expensive ones) that can measure the lumen "input" over the course of a full day, or something. Like, you know, I could leave the device for a week window A, check the measurement, leave it for a week at window B, check the measurement, and have a contrast of which window gets better light
>>3139910>>3139901Also though, I'm not really trying to grow the "most autistic of plants", but I am trying to get some berries from my windowsill. Earlier this summer I kidnapped some wild strawberry bushes from a forest nearby, (after their fruiting season) and I'm wondering if they will be able to flower and bear fruit next summer. As far as leaves/vines go, they are still growing like crazy, but I know most plants are very picky about when's the "grow a billion leaves" time and when's the "grow a single fruit" time.
>>3139911don't worry about a lux metre. they are £50 for just the shittiest ones, and only really neccesary for professional nurseries.
what are some common reasons for bloom delay
>>3139928temperature and sunlight i.e. climatea plant might flower later in a cooler climate than a warmer one.for flower shows, growers exploit this to bring plants into bloom earlier or later than normal.
>>3139928being molested in childhood
>>3139498>night sky petuniaalready got that one, but thanks>>3139538>variegated monsteragreat idea!
hello first time poster herecan anyone ID some plants in here? I'm trying to redecorate a room to give it parisian vibesthanks!
>>3139987IM FUCKING RETARDED https://i (dot) 4cdn.org/fa/1567842550912.jpg
>>3139987>>3139988what does 'parisian vibe' mean when it comes to plants?last time i went to paris there were just boring plants everywhere, so i think you've nailed it already with your room.
>>3139993well I have 3 empty pots and a bedroom that is devoid of flowersI'd love to tackle some more advanced species as I feel quite comfortable simply watering/misting plants every dayOne pot is something a female friend created and gave to me out of the blue for my birthday (I suspect she failed to sell it and just wanted to get rid of it) pic related (4 inch by 9 inch)I also picked this up - https://www.laredoute.co.uk/ppdp/prod-324518953.aspxWhat would you put in these?
>>3139995fucking christ what is wrong with mehere's the shitty pot she gave me, what do you think?
>>3139998it's glazed, which can be a problem. does it have a hole in the bottom? pots needs those.also, it's very shallow, which will limit your options.lastly>bottleneck plantpotjust no
>>3139977sempervivums are also very facebook gardener tieror just let your garden completely overgrow and pretend you're helping biodiversity.>>3139988repost, too lazy to copypaste.>aquatic fern
>>3139998Honestly just use it as a dry toilet
>>3140005Shit that's one weird and beautiful fern, I want itIt would probably get suffocated by Marsilea in my pond though (>>3139795)
>>3140027there's shoots of it running throughout the entire pond.myosotis scorpioides subsp. scorpioides is bushy as fuck and it manages to grow alongside it.
>>3140014yeah alrightso what plants do you guys likewhat should I buy
>>3140045gave you my pond plant list alreadythe fern is Pilularia globulifera.>wasabi
>>3140047what about just random houseplants
>>3140050order some Calceolaria uniflora seeds online if you want an interesting house plant.got some myself recently, not sure if you're supposed to sow them in spring or winter so I'll just do both and see what works well.
>>3140035Very cool, my Marsilea also managed to escape to the deepest part of the pond but it always keeps its rhizomes anchored to the ground.Highly recommended plant if you have a lot of space for it.Pic related the only spot in the shallow area that isn't full of Marsilea. I need to plant something here quickly before it takes over
>>3140055I prefer fully aquatic plants so I can't grow too much cover or they won't get enough sun.
>>3140059Better avoid it then. I'm gonna have to pluck it a lot once I introduce oxygenating plants.
Does anyone have an idea which plant this is?Found in a quite shallow, natural pond in a forest in AustriaAn Aponogeton species?
>>3140055where did you get that Marsilea?And which species is it?I've been looking for a Marsilea species with floating leaves like that for ages
>>3140069It's Marsilea quadrifolia, I bought it online from a local water nursery.I think all types of Marsilea will grow like that depending on water depth. Mine only has floating leaves but if I planted it in very shallow water or just moist soil it would develop aerial leaves instead.
>>3140068Looks like Potamogeton natans
>>3140077the famous floating dogshit plantdid you know it's able to grow on land, almost makes you appreciate how dedicated it is to being a glorified swamp weed
>>3140085I had no idea but it looks more presentable this way. Too bad it prefers to grow as a thick yellowish mat over the surface of the water
>>3140087it prefers camouflaging as sewer waste.it's one of those plants that you know would look good in the right kind of setting that it chooses to never grow in.
>>3140092I wouldn't mind having something like this as a marginal plant in my pond but I know it's only a matter of time before it crawls towards the depths and does its magic.Persicaria amphibia on the other hand looks quite good both in and out of water imo.>image limitNice
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>>3140077>Potamogeton natansthanks, that might be itHaven´t even though of this one, because the leaves were at least 15cm log, maybe that was because it gets pretty low light in the dense forest>>3140092yea, it looks like shit usually, with enough light it gets a disgusting brown color, here knew it could grow outside of water to be honest
>>3140110why no bugguy free edition ?
>>3140149because he posts content unlike the people who cry about him like you.take a look at the last edition.
>>3140149shut up you idiot. you're worse than bugguy.
>>3138746Damn, you better be taking really good care of that one!