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The Plant General - Hydrangea Edition

Welcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.
Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.

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>>3071208

LINKS

>The Plant List
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>Plant ID Sites
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https://wildflowersearch.org/
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/content/dam/nhmwww/take-part/identify-nature/tree-identification-key.pdf
>Pests and Diseases
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https://homyden.com/garden-pests-diseases-directory/
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>Cacti and Succulents
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>Orchids
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>Plants for Beneficial Insects
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Thread Bee says Hi
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has there ever been a straight male who involved himself with plants?
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>>3078425
Most farmers throughout history
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>>3078439
ahh yes those proud daisy farmers of yore
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>>3078442
>grains, fruits, and vegetables aren't plants
Put those goalposts back where you found them
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>>3078444
damn son, I was going to flame you for thinking this was poignant but I'll just let you have it as a win. grapes ARE plants.
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>>3078422
What's the deal with hydrangeas? Why do grannies love them so much? What is their use in a garden? Are they just big bushes that take up a whole corner? Can they be specimens in pots? Do they turn to shit over winter?

>>3078424
Hi, Thread Bee. Buzz, buzz.
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>>3078453
Wow. Just did my own googling and found this on the website of famous Australian sex pest Don Burke:

>The flower colour in most forms relates to the acidity or alkalinity of the soil. In acid soil (pH 5 or less) hydrangeas are usually always blue. As the soil pH climbs towards the neutral and alkaline end of the scale (pH 7 or more) hydrangeas turn mauve, pink and red. A blueing tonic (containing aluminium and iron) will turn pink or mauve hydrangeas blue. It should be applied once a month in March and April and again in August, September and October, following the directions on the pack. A cup of lime (calcium carbonate) added to the soil in spring will cause blue or mauve hydrangeas to turn pink. White flowering hydrangeas will remain white regardless of soil pH.
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>>3078453
Nothing wrong with Hydrangeas. They are easy to care for and eventually grow into a good sized shrub.
They lose their leaves in the Winter, but the old brown flower heads will remain. It's a matter of opinion whether you like this or not.
You can grow them in pots, but they will grow much better in the ground.
>>3078456
Every granny know this. You can even buy purpose-made feeds for Hydrangeas which will keep the flowers blue.
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>>3078467
Interesting. Thanks.
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>>3073557
Carrying on from the last thread, here's the rest of my pictures from Highdown, and I saved the best for last; the crazy huge herbaceous borders.
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>>3078506
The whole of Highdown is in an old Chalk quarry, so when the founder first came here a century ago, it was all just bare chalk, and he had to figure out what grew best by trial and error.
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>>3078507
It was so full of colour. There were three of these huge beds, each one maybe 50 feet long and 20 or so deep.
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>>3078509
Nice Echinacea blooms. There wasn't very much of it there, so probably doesn't flourish in the chalk like some of the other plants do.
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>>3078510
Lots of benches for all the old boomers.
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>>3078512
Rose spider says thanks for watching!
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>>3078512
those are some nice benches anon
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>>3073760
Update: The baby sunflower and at least three others near it just vanished, I can't even find rests of the stems.
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/plant/ I need an suggestion. I'll be moving to an poorly light apartment with no direct sun light and little light all around. Is there anything I can grow there? Thanks
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>>3078453
they're just obnoxious bushes with decent big flowers that bloom reliably.

they look like shit most of the year because no one prunes them properly, it's supposed to look like a young upright growing majestic shrub but if you don't prune them correctly and every year it'll collapse under it's own weight and looks like an ugly mishaped ball, virtually all images you see of them in borders on the internet are incorrectly pruned, they are not supposed to look saggy.
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My lillies have ran their course for the year. I'll still see a few oddballs pop up here and there, like this stargazer
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>>3078425
I'm so straight I eat my hotdogs from the middle
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>>3078619
That's a beautiful flower
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>>3078623
a few more weeks until we can start redesigning our gardens.

I decided I'm gonna put the tufa rocks I ordered upright instead of laying them down flat (like picture related) to create a more chaotic, natural look.
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>>3078626
Thanks! I prefer pic related
>>3078627
Are they ever truly finished?
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>>3078422

First time I read on /an/, thanks for all those links I think I'll pass by more often ;)
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>>3078633
That's also beautiful. I love lilies.
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>>3078456

You can also easily use diluted vinegar to change the pH of the terrain and obtain blue flowers.

For the opposite try diluted baking soda.
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>>3078633
these flower spikes might last until early august, if the plant experiences frost after that it's done, if not it might send out new flower spikes that last until the frost does hit it.

you gonna move everything in the autumn or spring?
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On the subject of hydrangeas, when ruca goes I plan on burying her in her favorite spot in the yard, with a pair of hydrangeas and
Lamprocapnos spectabilis.
Dilluted epson salt applied directly to the blooms will also change their color.
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>>3078643
Hydrangea paniculata is the best hydrangea btw.
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>>3078643
Sounds nice but why wait?
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>>3078642
>you gonna move everything in the autumn or spring?
I usually won't see frost until at least October, by then the plants will have died off, and if anything I'll cut them back. I never move them for growing purposes, they'll be back in late spring.
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>>3078653
most growth is halted or atleast severely slowed down by summer solstice.

thought you were going to construct some shit in your garden with the bricks you collected.
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>>3078649
Because that's where I'll bury the dog. Hopefully many years down the road. It's a low lying area and I'll probably make a mound, border it with some stone, and reuse some of the old cedar split rail fence I removed awhile back.
>>3078648
I've got my eye on a creamy white variety, that contrasts well with its rich green foilage.
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>>3078655
>thought you were going to construct some shit in your garden with the bricks you collected.
I am, but in a different area. The flower bed I post won't change much other than removing the stone separating it from the driveway, and adding a few sand and gravel boulders.
This is the area that will receive the most attention. Red brick pavers and limestone slabs for a hardscape patio area, and a raised bed made from split faced stone.
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Hi /plant/, here's a pic from a few weeks ago of our patio with mint, rose, and a hibiscus with some perennials around it. Thanks for the advice on the mint a while back, it's doing great now. I took a few cuttings and put them in a shot glass with rainwater but they're not rooting out and it's been almost a week - any advice?

Also the empty pot now has a kumquat tree in it, which we got from walmart a couple of weeks ago with several smaller green fruits on it already. When should they ripen?
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>>3078668
ah, I see, I thought they were all going into the lilly garden.
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>>3078671
you don't have to wait until mint has roots you can just stick it in some soggy soil and it'll be fine
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>>3078673
I've got a bunch of geodes I've collected that I want to put down in the bare spots of my lilly garden, and get rid of the crappy temporary fencing.
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>>3078678
just remember that mint spreads like a weed
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Right now time is my biggest constraint on getting anything done. I took a lot of time off work, and spent a bunch of money rebuilding my old barn last year. This year I've been working a ton of overtime to offset that cost, but it's hard to get anything done when I'm never home. This fall I should have the time I'm needing.
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>>3078715
And current
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absolute beginner here
>just bought a cilantro plant
>soaking green onions to plant later
im so fucking excited ive always wanted a little garden
i don't know what food plant to get next though

coworker advised me to put egg shells around my cilantro plant so i did, and its growing pretty fast :^)
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>>3078422
Here's my blue boy, needs a trim.
>>3078668
Nice stones
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>>3078730
>Penstemon serrulatus
>>3078715
>>3078718
Awesome job! I can tell that was a lot of work
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>>3078730
Thanks, I'd love to get it finished tho
>>3078727
What climate zone are you in?
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>>3078737
I'm in texas so a humid subtropical zone apparently. it's been really humid lately, like 86F with 73% humidity
it's suffering
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>>3078736
>a lot of work
It was. The majority of it was done by myself with the help of my sixteen year old son. Mission accomplished, he damn sure doesn't want to work construction for the rest of his life, that cushy CMM gig looks very appealing to him now.
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>>3078747
>Texas
Definitely peppers. Tomatoes as well.
I'm in 6a with very humid summers, my garden has peppers, tomatoes, lettuce, beans, onions, cucumber and squash. Any of these should work for you. I don't plant corn because it takes up so much area, shades the rest of the garden, and gets knocked down easily. Also the fact that every damn farmer around me sells the shit for a couple bucks a dozen.
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>>3078690
rub some buttermilk or yoghurt on them if you want lichen and moss to develope quicker.
>>3078713
I have Mentha x piperita 'chocolate mint' in my garden, it's relatively easy to control.

it's the best tasting mint variety btw.
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>>3078752
I think geodes are pretty cool as they are, but I will be picking your brain once my hardscape is done, I'll be looking in to moss for in between the stones in this pic>>3078668, plus a few other ideas I've got floating around.
>relaxing in the garden
someday
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>>3078760
they'll weather naturally whether you want it or not.

sun-bleached stumps are also great decor.

people are so obsessed with maintaining everything everywhere here that I hardly see any ground lichen and cyanobacteria.

do they have Cymbalaria muralis in America? it's a good rockcrack plant, will literally grow in dry dusty ant hills.
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>>3078766
>do they have Cymbalaria muralis in America?
Oh yeah, it's available at more specialized nurseries, most regular places only stock mom plants, but the places that focus more on landscape design definitely stock it.
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>>3078772
toss some underneath the tree once your construction is finished, it'll look nice and is easy to control.
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>>3078775
Writing that one down, thanks for the suggestion.
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>>3078422
Anons how do i control roses? I have a lot but they mature in June and september (i want them for feb or December
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>>3078737
I remember seeing this pic a few threads earlier, that's the cleanest garden I've ever seen. Here's a stone path I've been working on. Its only halfway done but it's still /plant/ related because I planted a some ground cover plants between the gaps, hard to see them in the pic though.
From left to right:
>Leptinella squalida
>Thymus Praecox
>Thymus Serpyllum 'Elfin'
>Thymus Serpyllum Coccineus
>Bolax Gummifera
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>>3078781
I'm hit and miss with older, established rose bushes. I've found the knock out varieties are much more forgiving.
I think Sedum pairs well with hydrangeas
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>>3078766
>>3078789
I got some of this for the shadier unfinished part of my path
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>>3078789
Isotoma fluviatilis will do well between those cracks.
>>3078798
hylotelephium hasn't been a sedum since your grandmother was a kid.
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>>3078803
expect it to seed a lot.

>fern wall looking dry as fuck hasn't rained properly in like 2 months
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>>3078806
Nice! I have some I can transplant
>>3078810
Good to know, thanks. And nice fern wall, I like the dense plant arrangment.
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>>3078814
if you're still looking for creeping plants don't get vinca no matter how much you trust the person advising it, it will choke out everything once established.

you will probably like tiarella cordifolia and ajuga reptans as well.

they're hardy creepers with nice flowers that aren't too tall.

>super rare creeper in cultivation that I should probably spend more energy on.
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>>3078789
That looks very nice, especially the color contrast of the stones. Nice work.
My garden is actually planted on an elderly family members property very close to me. I do all the work, every now and then she might pull a weed or two. But she does do all the canning come fall. She is incredibly anal about her yard, which is why I try to keep it clean.
>>3078806
I'm well aware of the name discrepancy, bear in mind I'm not involved in gardening circles other than this board, and most scientific names are lost on me. It can be aggravating trying to describe a plant that people only know as stonecrop, autumn fire, or worse "live forever".
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>>3078829
>or worse "live forever".

they're not even exaggerating, I find this shit in the middle of forests where there haven't been houses for over a century growing between the rubble.
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>>3078835
Definitely hardy. Poor drainage areas to the point of standing water is the only thing I've found that they won't thrive in, like most plants I guess.
Whenever I post scientific names I have to search them first. Apparently wiki needs an update.
On a related note concerning fucked up names people use, my elderly family member asked if I could pretty up around her mailbox. She specifically asked for a "piney" bush.
It took a minute to realize she was asking for fucking peonies.
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Someone just gave me this gangly, freakishly tall and etiolated jade plant. It was in a container with no drainage and the soil was waterlogged. I tried to repot it before it rotted but everything below the soil line had already disintegrated into mush. The rest of the stem is still decently firm. How should I proceed to preserve as much of this plant intact as possible?
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>>3078859
keep it somwhere out of direct sunlight, and let the rootball dry out for a few days.
then it will be ok to repot.
use a well drained mixture, with lots of grit and some coarse sand.
cut off those shrivelled stems in thebottom of the pic
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>>3078774
that’s creepy af
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Really feeling the Hydrangea love ITT
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>>3078869
Mom always had these in the garden when I was growing up
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>>3078867
Not as creepy as the real dog. She's blind as shit.
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>>3078878
Is she older?
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>>3078880
She'll be ten this year. My daughter is in 4H and competes in obedience training.
Being blind is an unfair advantage because when you take her to a strange place and leash her she has no other choice than be obedient.
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>>3078781
what do you mean by control? just cut them down or dig them out.
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>>3078878
>stevie wonder
gg anon

it sucks watching good friends get old
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>>3078835
I want my telomeres to grow like a plant :((((((((
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>>3078835
why are your walls wrapped in plastic?
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>>3078934
you'd regret that in a few decades.
>>3078935
so the rain doesn't ruin my watering schedule.
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>>3078936
>watering on a schedule
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>>3078946
alpines are water sensitive and rainwater lowers the pH of the soil in pots.
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>>3078936
your tobacco is yellowin
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>>3078950
it's a brugmansia, those are old leaves.
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>>3078751
Thanks! I'll probably look into planting some serrano or bell pepper. That sounds like a very lovely garden anon
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>>3078946
>it's a hobby so it's ok if I suck at it
hmm.....
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>>3079073
pretty sure he was saying the opposite
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It's probably time for another shelf boys
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>>3079129
Are these tomatoes? Jesus christ I feel bad for them.
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>Aquilegia formosa
>>3078828
I already have a few variegated vinca minor in my front yard and at the rate they grow it would just cover all the stepping stones in a year or 2, definitely a bad choice lol. And thanks for the suggestions, those are nice plants.
>>3078829
Thanks! That's really cool you help with that work, it can be demanding.
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>>3079139
Didn't even know catnip could flower desu
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does anybody know what species is this?
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Anyone know what this one is called? I got it from my friend's yard at his cape house, he doesn't know what it is. It started small without a stalk, I've had it a year now
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>>3079306
god damned redheads
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/2478741
>studies in etiolation
Found what I was looking for. Interesting read.
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>>3079306
DUDE LEONOTIS NEPETIFOLIA 421 BLAZE IT !!!
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>>3079644
Thank you
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My glottiphyllum suave bloomed recently. Sadly it's self sterile so I won't get seeds.
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edraianthus tenuifolius seed heads.

cut them off since the plant is dying back for the winter anyway, hopefully they'll dry properly indoors.
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>friend gifted me hippuris vulgaris for my pond
>the moment I put it in the water it started shitting out millions of azolla ferns that are now all over the surface
What do I do?
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>>3079846
scoop them out if you don't want them but they're not hard to control.

expect your hippuris vulgaris to go bald underwater before it sends out stems that are properly adapted to it, they're cultivated on land even though they're water plants.
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>>3079810
suaveboi
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>>3079810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d19eBjpP2Aw
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>>3079846
>hippuris vulgaris
That's a cool plant. Just dug a clay pond and will need something to put in around the sides. Where can I get that plant?
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>>3079881
Many pond plant nurseries have it, they often offer online services too. See if there's any in your region.
If you want to find it in the wild, it grows both in Europe and NA, forming large colonies in swampy areas.
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>>3078806
>Upright sedums were at one point separated into the genusHylotelephium, but are now generally included back in the genusSedum.
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Adiantum found in the woods
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>>3079721
I wish you could grow those indoors. Getting to enjoy them in the summer isn't enough.
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This is a weed growing all around my yard and I find it lovely. Plantnet is shit at ID. Any ideas what it could be? The flowers are maybe 0.5cm wide and it grows like a small shrub less than foot tall with a long taproot. This is in northern California.
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>>3079922
Nice and checked
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Maybe this time I can bump the thread with a properly rotated picture. Also, anybody know what this is?
>>3079855
Your pond is looking better every day!
>>3079721
That's a tidy fern.
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>>3079920
>According to the Missouri Botanic garden

there's no one else that does this or agrees with it.
>>3080106
some kind of Marchantia.
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>>3080207
>Kew Garden's online database now lists Hylotelephium as a synonym for Sedum
maybe read the whole thing?
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>>3080208
wouldn't be suprised if Sedum ends up like Eurphorbia at this point.

plants are constantly placed in and out of families, most of the time (such as in this occasion) it's just butthurt botanists battling over pointless semantics.

anyone that has seen this plant during all growth stages realizes it's nothing like a sedum.
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>>3080040
it's some member of Fabaceae, the legume family.
try this site, assuming it's a wildflower
https://wildflowersearch.org/
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>>3080212
look at the shape of the flower and guess what genus it's in.
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>>3080214
Fabaceae is a big family lad, and I'm not about to do all the brain work for anon, I just thought It give them a start. Plus, I don't live in the US.
But if I had to guess, I would say Lathyrus.
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>>3080214
>>3080220
>Lathyrus
But having said that, the leaves looks vetchy (Vicia).
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>>3080221
>>3080220
it's Acmispon americanus, shitters.

you were so busy looking at the flowers that you didn't see it's awkward sepals.
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>>3080223
good job anon, but i've never heard of this species that grows in a country i've never been to, so i don't really miss the 30 seconds of my day i spent wondering what it is.
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>>3080227
if only california were a country, then the surrounding countries could put walls around it so the retards don't escape.
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>>3080262
it's invasive by the way, don't actually put it in your garden.
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>>3080264
nice pyramiding
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>>3080277
they don't have smooth shells in this stage of their life, retard.
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morning sun
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>>3080283
Going to be hot and humid today
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You indoor plant people need to get on my level.
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>>3080293
>growing in dirt
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>>3080264
Kek, that shell looks low quality 3D printed.
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>>3080280
cope

nice pyramiding
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>>3080333
Okay, seems like they don't always keep those bismuth like edges and end up smooth. Otherwise and if they weren't too tropical for my region I might get some, I love their look.

>>3080284
Lovely, expecially in that light.
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>>3080349
Just raise it in poor conditions and you will get a perfect bismuth shell like anon's.
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>>3080349
they have them until they're starting to mature.
>>3080355
it's a feral my neighbour found a year or so ago, the russian tortoises I raise myself have smooth shells.

been looking to sell it but only people that want to buy them for their kids react to them.
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>>3080355
A look like >>3080349 would be my favourite, no humps but all the edges. I have medium ugly pyramid hermanni already.
Since raising tortoises is stupid I would adopt anyway but I fear they're not quite cool enough to make my ceap ass build a suitable inside enclosure.
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>>3080369
that's an adult female, the males are a bit narrower and tend to keep some of the bumps.
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was cycling and decided to take some pics of the drosera colony nearby now that it's sunnier.
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>>3080398
and rotundifolia
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>>3080399
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>>3080400
d. intermedia is supposingly less common but I see it more frequently than rotundifolia
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>>3080223
That's it, thanks anon. Plantism is form of autism I'd like to acquire. Where did you start learning about identification?
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>>3080523
in school but I don't actually use taxonomic keys to identify pictures on the internet.
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>>3080525
What's your degree? And have another picture of this beauty.
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>>3080535
botany specialized in a bad mix of forestry and horticulture.

take clippings and stuff them in a thick book, you can frame then once dried if you like the plant so much.
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>>3080545
Perhaps I will. Going to collect seeds too do I can grow them where I want next year.
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>>3080398
Groovy pics.
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>>3080523
The best thing about it is how much more plants you'll see if you know them. Just get started with the weeds around your house.
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THESE FUCKING DANDELION NIGGERS ARE EVERYWHERE IN ON MY LAWN AND REFUSE TO STOP FUCKING GROWING AND THEY KEEP TRYING TO GROW IN MY GARDEN FUCK THESE YELLOW ASS FAGGOTS LITERAL NIGGERS OF THE PLANT WORLD
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>>3080811
Eat them. They're edible. Back in first grade, all the kids at my school would just eat them if we saw em.
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>>3080811
if you were smart, you'd pick the flowers off before they seed, and halt their spread.
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I think this is Indian pipe. thoughts? found growing near russula mushrooms and various trees
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>>3080871
kinda looks like weraroa
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>>3080814
this

saute them up in some oil with garlic and cannelli beans greenz and beenz can't be beat
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What's some good stuff to do with rangpur limes? they all ripened at same time
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hey /plant/, give me the rundown on growing summer-dormant succs like Lithops and Aeonium.
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>>3081017
Don't water the Lithops in summer? Or in winter either, for that matter?
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>>3080688
thanks.

droseras used to grow in every ditch here pre ww2 but overfertilization killed all of them, now they're sort of rare but not hard to find if you know what to look for.

it's only gonna get worse as politicians are completely clueless about environmentally-friendly farming and farmers don't give a fuck because they've got no successors anyway.

also the province obsessively manages waterlevels here which also caused a lot of plants that need the water level to drop for germination to decline.
>>3080811
mow more often so they don't establish, if your lawn is small scarify it with a rake every now and then.
>>3081024
you water them after they've divided themselves and the old skin layer is completely shriveled and the plant itself getting wrinkly I think.
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>>3081050
what about Aloinopsis?
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>>3081053
they're winter growers so you don't water them when they're dormant in the summer.
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>>3081054
so should i just let it shrivel up completely? atm i water it when the leaves go soft. it barely grows though.
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>>3081057
it's not supposed to shrivel much if it's dormant, doe.
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>>3081053
Here's a basic watering guide for mesembs.
https://cactiguide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10071
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>>3081069
thanks anon
>Aloinopsis
>consistent light watering except during dormancy, sensitive roots
>needs extra water during growing season to maintain fat leaves or roots
>Grows almost all year long
>short dormancy during mid summer
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>>3081071
don't be too strict about it, but when you're in doubt it's best not to water.

microclimates vary a lot so you'll need to adjust how much and how often you will have to water it accordingly during their active growing season.
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I want an orchid for my little west-facing kitchen window. it's bright all day, but only gets direct sunlight for less than an hour towards sunset.
But all I see in the shops is Phalaenopsis and the occasional Dendrobium.
Are there any more interesting orchids (or another flowering plant maybe?) for this kind of location?
I just don't want something boring or ordinary.
Ludisia is nice, but too small, I want something tall but narrow like a Phal or Dendrobium.
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>>3081077
humidity is the biggest issue for more interesting species but you can easily fix that with a vase or a terrarium, as long as you don't let the roots sit in water.
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>>3081071
Basically don't water when it's very hot. Aloinopsis can handle watering every other time of the year but try to water when its shriveled only. As >>3081075
says if you're unsure just skip on watering and check up on it later.
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>>3081077
Look online for a dedicated orchid nursery and browse their stock. There are so many orchids that would do fine there it makes no sense to ask for recs, we have no idea what plants you find cool. There are some great phals and dendrobiums IMO, I like p. schilleriana or and d. spectabile, although it may be too dark for a dendro. You could go for pretty much any paphiopedilum, maaybe some low light phragmipedium like pearcei. Psychopsis may work there, but i don't quite believe you that it's "bright all day". Not sure why you deem ludisia too small but a phal acceptable, just put it in a tall pot and let it hang over the edges. It eventually ends up bushier and bigger than a phal.
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>>3081089
only species phals are good and you know it.

they only grow well upside down or sideways tho.
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>>3081091
I do know it, that's why i listed a species as an example. Got a (para)phalaenopsis labukensis in the mail, can't wait.

Phals grow fine cucked into a pot if you dont pour water into them but I do prefer them mounted.
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>>3081093
species phals aren't adapted well to dealing with moisture on their leaves and their flower spikes snap growing upright.

I used to have phalaenopsis amboinensis.
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>>3081096
That's why i said don't pour water into it. Also Ive never seen a phal spike snap when upright unless helped out by a cat or a retard child.

Nice one, I do enjoy the waxy striped lads quite a lot.
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>>3081100
I had them outdoors during the summer so their spikes would sometimes collapse under their own weight with a little bit of help from the wind.

can't be bothered growing high humidity plants indoors anymore, too much mold unless you have a dehumidifier running 24/7
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>>3081102
i like this.
are they streptocarpus?
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>>3081105
ramonda myconi.

I got some seedlings of them laying around.
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>>3081107
some plants too actually.
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>>3080811
>tfw own potbelly pig
>dandelions pop up for approximately 20 seconds before getting decimated instantly
Feels nice to have my own biological weed killer
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>>3081202
People can eat dandelions too
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>>3080811
Get some heal-alls, they are stronger.
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My fig tree doesn't seem to be getting ripe figs at all, I may need to water it more often? Live in NC and its been super hot outside.
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Hey guys, there's a fledgling hornet nest outside my patio, they seem pretty cozy setting up (3 or so wasps). Any carnivorous plant that can kill a few? I already have a spray handy, but I'm curious to hear from you nice fellas.
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>>3081775
Depending on which kind, don't even harm them.
If you don't want them there just make it uncomfortable for them. But I'de strongly recommend to stop being a coward and leave them, it's fascinating seeing them building their nest and observing them. I had one in the wall of our summer house near the front door and our outside breakfast table and even with a lot of small kidsrunning around they did nothing but to keep the food snatching kind of wasps away. Pic related, those are super chill.
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>>3081834
this. hornets look like big scary wasps, but they are no more agressive than a bumble bee in my experience.
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>>3081834
>>3081841
t. hornet
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>>3081834
>>3081841
Hornets are cunts. They completely destroyed a bumblebee nest I had in my garage and moved in themselves. Thankfully they cooked during the heatwave.
Fuck hornets.
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>>3081878
that's nature, lad
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>>3081878
Most bumblebees are rental nomads, they don't even really build nests, just move into some homes and clutter it. Sad birds can't raise their young in the spot they used for years because a shitty bumblebee felt the need to ruin it.
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>>3081889
bumblebees are more important than birds.
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Australian-endemic Callistemon flowering on a chilly Queensland winter morning.
When I was a kid we used to strip the little woody seed cups and jam them in the ends of our bicycle pumps and shoot each other with them. Luckily nobody lost an eye.
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Dumpster fire typical of a suburban park in south-east Queensland.
A self-sown Queensland silver wattle (Acacia podalyriifolia) next to some sort of garden-escapee oleander and a garden-escapee Monstera deliciosa, all on top of Sphagneticola trilobata, a relentless Mexican weed known here as Singapore daisy because it took over Malaysia first.
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Re-built this little fence today and planted a Passiflora incarnata "Snow". I just discovered the passionflower existed last week and went to a local nursery to get some cheap soil for my stone path >>3078789 and they had one by chance.
>>3082254
Very interesting looking flower
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My Kurenai jishi is looking like a DUDE WEED
>>3082263
What a mess, but that Monstera deliciosa is a cool looking plant
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>>3082269
>>3082273
Groovy.
And yeah, you can't really get mad at deliciosa.
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>>3078422
Nice, it is midnight here but I'll post a pic of my hydrangea tomorrow. Cut every flower off it a little over 2 weeks ago to decorate the bridal arch for a friend's daughter's wedding. It is back in full bloom again.
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>>3081075

Do you live in America? Send native orchids plez
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Took a few nice pictures in the Pavillion gardens, including:
The Hydrangea
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>>3082897
Another angle of the same border.
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>>3082898
And a different border with some lovely Helenium, Astrantia and blue Geraniums.
Thanks /plant/.
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Any resources for hot-weather flower gardening?

I've done multiple attempts, but nothing quite survives the heat and I'm looking for help
Temps range from 15C (winter nights) to 47C (summer days), but it's usually between 34-38C, very dry weather
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>>3082434
europe

send me native orchids also.
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>>3083114
are you the guy that lives near furnace creek ? pereskias are fairly nice, but they need almost as much water as an average plant
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>>3083123
>furnace creek
>fahrenheit
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>>3083114
Where the hell are you?
If it's too hot for pissweak little herbaceous plants you might need to look at flowering desert perennials, shrubs and trees. Euphorbia millii never seems to stop flowering.
Have you tried looking at websites/facebook/instagram accounts for botanic gardens in retardedly hot parts of the world?
There's a botanic garden in Alice Springs, for example.
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idk if this is the right board but you guys will probably know the answers anyway.
i wanna fill my room with plants but i dont know anything about them, idk what sort of plants to get or the names of them or how to look after them or anything, i dont even know if its a good idea.
can i hab some advice?
i particularly like ones like pic related with the long thin leaves
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>>3083114
There are a fucking lot of things. You could grow a yuge jade tree or desert roses. Or maybe a baobab!
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>>3078425
dads and yard work
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>>3083404
The best indoor palm is the bamboo palm (Chamaedorea seifrizii). Most other palms need too much light.
There are loads of other plants you can keep indoors. Zamioculcas, Epipremnum and Sansevieria are some of the easiest to look after.
Have you tried googling "indoor plants"?
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>>3083577
thanks
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look at my ants

there's currently a million flying around in the garden.
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there appear to be several species.
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>all that ant dust
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>>3083116
Are there any native European orchids?
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>>3083704
only like 500 species.
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Has anyone here grown Tasmanian tree ferns indoors? I love how they look, but I can't find any info about keeping them indoors.
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>>3083704
of course
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>>3083404
Dracena are pretty cozy indoor too
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anyone have pics of lettuce seeds sprouting? day 1-7 perferably anything would help.
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is anyone here a horticulturalist? what do you do exactly?
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>>3084321
Don't know about other people, but when I did it for a while at a commercial nursery it was low-skilled labour - mostly potting and repotting, detailing plants for retail sale, loading plants on tractor trailers, watering them, driving them out to the growing area and unloading them.
The coolest part was propagation - taking cuttings of things like Hemigraphis, Murraya, Zoysia and Carissa and sticking them in little pots and putting them in the hothouse.
There was plenty of weeding, a bit of pruning, lots of untangling climbers that had grown together, and loads of odd jobs, from replacing shadecloth to stripping frangipanis of rust-affected leaves.
My job wasn't brain surgery, but it was entry-level stuff on pretty much the lowest horticulture qualification you can get in Australia. The work wasn't too hard, it was a little bit of exercise and I got to be outside all day.
If you want to get into it there are plenty of more interesting and challenging things you can do if you get the right qualifications and experience.
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Plants>animals
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>>3084321
forestry and landscape design with garden maintenance during the seasons I'm not allowed to cut trees.
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>>3084452
working in the agricultural sector as wage slave doesn't make you a horticulturalist.
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>polish botanic names are unpronounceabl-
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>>3084463
unpronounceableagle
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>>3084460
Nice fern plantation
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>>3084509
here's a root
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>>3084510
Those are private parts you creep
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>>3084514
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>>3084460
No, but being a horticulturist has evidently made you a cunt.
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>>3084806
I'm the least snarky of my colleagues.

you have to be a dick to make a decent living as horticulturist, all the wannabe biology students get weeded out pretty quickly and end up barkeeping.
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>>3084809
I should have clarified that I don't consider myself a horticulturist, just someone who has done a bit of work in one part of the industry.
Of course I'm no expert, but nobody had replied to the question in five hours so I thought I'd share my experience for what it's worth.
If the poster is interested in getting in to horticulture doing that sort of basic shit while studying is one way to do it.
Anyway, happy landscape designing to you!
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>>3084816
I doubt anyone that wants to get into horticulture is doing so because they want to engage in the non-horticultural aspect of it, which is the work you were doing.

wages are fuck low for entry level jobs and you'll never get anything more than that if you're spineless.

ironically it's mostly spineless people that study biology, I think I'm the only one in my classes that actually has a job regarding it now.
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>>3084460
Do you have a pic from below the ferns? It almost looks like a sea, I dig it.
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What is the ecological role of ferns?
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>>3084966
The niche? New Islands and somewhat moist places without much light, I guess.
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>>3085073
Oh I know what their habitat is, what I was wondering about is what "role" do they have in the ecosystems where they belong? What do they do and what other organisms rely on them?
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>>3084952
the underside of the leaves?

no.
>>3085073
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_species
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what are some low maintenance bright flowers?
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>>3085164
can you be any more vague?
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>>3084819
>I doubt anyone that wants to get into horticulture is doing so because they want to engage in the non-horticultural aspect of it
No shit.
But not everybody has the luxury of being able to study without working. If you have to have a part-time job you may as well have one in the industry you're studying for.
You seem to enjoy sneering at people who work in nurseries, but anyone new to horticulture will learn an enormous amount from old propagators and nursery hands. They're not the morons you seem to think they are.

>the non-horticultural aspect of it, which is the work you were doing
Not sure how you arrived at a definition of horticulture that specifically excludes the propagation, growing and care of ornamental plants and fruit trees, but it's a bold new take on the word, to say the least.

>wages are fuck low for entry level jobs
No shit

>you'll never get anything more than that if you're spineless
You'll never get anything more than that, full stop, if you stay in the same job.
Funnily enough, some of the people I used to work with were quite happy doing that basic, low-paid shit. They were mostly women who had kids and/or had husbands who made plenty of money, and they just liked having a laugh in the potting shed and they declined promotion.
Other people, of course, hated the grind and the shitty wages. But there are many different reasons why they and other people have been unable to make the kinds of satisfying careers they might have wanted. They don't deserve to be sneered at.
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>>3085204
don't pay any attention to that mentalcase
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>>3085204
no one's sneering at your job retard, just don't pretend you're a horticulturist and get butthurt when someone points out you're just a wage slave in the agricultural sector.
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>>3085203
possibly....
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>>3085128
Food for dinosaurs.
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>>3085252
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>>3085288
Don't tell the ferns, they might feel useless and stop existing.
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>>3084966
>>3085128
They photosynthesize which reduces atmospheric carbon to sugars and then use that for biomass and secondary metabolites. A lot of them are shrub like so they also take on that sort of role within forest systems.
>organisms rely on them
plenty of insects eat them, some ferns are eaten by people. I wouldn't be surprised if other mammal herbivores eat them too. They aren't all that nutritious but that's a defense mechanism. Being low quality food means less wants to eat them
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Ariocarpus babies are so cute yet ugly , I love them
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>>3085428
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>>3085429
echinocereus nivosus putting out a buncha adult growth
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What plants are those two? They don’t like me.
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>>3085429
SMOL
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>>3085476
dracaena and dieffenbachia
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>>3085493
>dracaena
I think it’s Yucca Elephantipes.
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>>3085497
might be, anon managed to pick the one angle that hides the trunk
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Recommend me the most floriferous vine for a front House. West facing. Zone 9a. Bonus for nice smell or evergreen.

I'm thinking in wisteria but Im unsure if it's worth the effort.
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>>3085310
got me
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>>3085525
Tracheleospermum is very floriferous, and very fragrant.
Honeysuckle too, but too messy for a house imo.
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>>3085525
I have a japanese wisteria and the flowers are great in May but not worth the maintenance if you want more flowers. But, I just planted a Passiflora incarnata vine last last week >>3082269 and its already got new flowers on the vine, super fragrant. Pic related. Its not evergreen though, but apparently it blooms in July and continues blooming through fall from what I've read. The variety I got also doesn't grow too big either, just 8-10 ft.
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Baby Crassula Portulacea I just re-potted that was growing with an aloe
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>>3079386
oh no! my poor little succulent got a rotten spot half way up the stalk and started slumping. I ended up removing some petals and exposing the stalk, cutting off the rotted portion and and putting it in water to hopefully sprout some roots, is this the right move? Or should I just go right back into soil? And why did it rot halfway up the stem? Did it get too tall and top heavy so the stem collapsed in on itself?
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>>3085658
>rip succo
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Some one told me room plants don’t like fresh water. Is this true? Can I just let it stand for one week and then use it?
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Anyone else here from the smokies/blue ridge mountains/Appalachia? Western NC here.
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>>3085658
don't root succulents in water, put it in dry soil after the cut has callused over
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>>3085863
the issue is that tap water can have all kinds of unwanted extras in it, plus it can be too cold straight from the tap, so should at least be allowed to warm up before giving to any plants.
most common houseplants are ok with un-treated tap water, at least in my country, but we don't have all kinds of shit added to our water, it's just a little on the hard side.
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>>3085995
what kind of country do you live in where you can't control the temperature of the water in the tap?
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>>3085998
but heating the water causes...........
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what if i spray my nepenthes with growth hormones ? did anyone have tried it??
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>>3086067
>posting wojaks
yeah, we know your experience with plants
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>>3086078
yes, thats why i asked
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I'm baking a new thread at 285 posts. First reply decides the edition.
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>>3086084
For me it's dioscorea.
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>>3086085
You win!
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>>3086111
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>>3086112
>making a new thread 40 posts before bump
fuck off with this shit, you're worse than the discordfags are.
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>>3086112
at least wait until the thread is at 285 you autist.
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>>3086116
you're very rude
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The Humble Hydrangea
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>>3086117
The only way this shitposter is going to learn is if we start making threads at 250. I'm getting sick of bugguy and him trying to own all the plant threads while he shitposts constantly in said threads with broken links.
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The Happy Hydrangea
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>>3086121
You need to get out more.
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>everybody i don't like is bugguy
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The Healthy Hydrangea
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Non-bugguy new thread
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>>3086133
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>>3086138
>but it's not even bump limit
>but you just shit the thread up
i've done a number on you
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>>3086138
thanks fren

>>3086140
https://desuarchive.org/an/search/text/bugguy/
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>>3086140
it gets funnier once you realize I hardly ever make the OP and half of the posts he gets angry over aren't even mine.
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>>3086145
>>3086140
People are sick of you continuing to shitpost in the threads and then make threads so damn early.
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>>3086147
I haven't made a thread since the first habitat theme and never use links, lmao.
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>>3086147
i'm not bugguy you dribbling fool. i've made most of the OPs for the last two years. cope.
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>>3086152
>I remember when /plant/ didn't have contests over who made what.
says the anon who is upset that they didn't get to make the OP
you're ridiculous.
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>>3086157
We wouldn't have a problem if you stopped making the threads so early. No other general engages in this behavior.
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>>3086147
>People
>>3086164
>We
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>>3086066
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>>3085998
i live in a country that's existed for longer than two centuries, so naturally we have old buildings with old plumbing that makes two taps more sensible.
most people don't have so much money to burn that they would replumb an entire old house just so they can have a mixer tap.
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pls stop
why does everybody have to respond to horseshit
why not just ignore them
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>>3086176
you know the mixer tap is just the tap, right? modern plumbing still has two water pipes going to the sink.
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>>3086176
I live in a country that has existed for a millenium with a couple of short breaks. I can't imagine what sort of plumbing you have that would require to be replaced just to install a different tap. It's literally just two pipes going into one.
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>>3086067
Seems like an awful idea. You should do it and then report back
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Hi, I'm new to keeping plants so sorry if I sound retarded but I need some help.

Recently I was given two tomato plants (the ones that grow tall), they were fine for a couple of weeks but now they're starting to wilt. They're around 20cm tall and I have been watering them once a day at around 4:00AM with 200ml of tap water, they were propped up using chopsticks until I bought some actual sticks for plants. I had to go away for a week so I asked my boyfriend to look after them, a couple of days after I got back they started to wilt despite looking fine the day before and one of them fell over damaging the stem near the bottom.

I replaced the sticks with study plastic ones and tire wrapped them to the plant and I'm gonna start using rainwater to water them but I don't know how much that will help. Has anyone got any tips, I'd really appreciate it.

Sorry for posting this in the other plant threads, I don't want them to die.



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