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The Plant General - Peat Bog Edition

Welcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.
Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.

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>>3065508

LINKS

>The Plant List
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>Plant ID Sites
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https://wildflowersearch.org/
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/content/dam/nhmwww/take-part/identify-nature/tree-identification-key.pdf
>Pests and Diseases
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>Thousands of Botanical Illustrations
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>Cacti and Succulents
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>Orchids
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>Plants for Beneficial Insects
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the links are still a mess.

that's heath, not a peat bog.
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>>3071264
also we already had a wetland edition.
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Recommended channels:

>Orchids/wildflowers
https://www.youtube.com/user/botanyboy1/
>Orchids/carnivorous plants
https://www.youtube.com/user/Icatizp
>Aquaponics
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5zdi4KM3ewwfYMNo_KnU0A/

reply with more channels to add to the list + a small description.
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Is it really dangerous to eat random wild mushrooms? or is that a fake boogieman myth?. Like for example how they say eating raw meat is dangerous.
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Can someone tell me what these 2 are called?
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>>3071288
And these?
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>>3071288
see
>>3071297
>>3071295
Sempervivum arachnoideum, some red variety.
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>>3071264
>that's heath, not a peat bog
It is a peat bog. They are often found close to or even within heathland, and the boundaries can be very fluid over time.
>the links are still a mess
I put a bit of time into them, and if anons want to give their input that's fine .
But if that's all you have to say, I'm not interested.
Not that I expect anything of salience from a poster such as yourself.
>>3071266
>also we already had a wetland edition
We had a Water Meadow edition, and I made it.
Get over yourself.
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>>3071295
This plant looks like it can make you trip balls
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>>3071316
>They are often found close to or even within heathland

there might be areas where water naturally accumulates within heathland where bog plants may grow but they don't grow interchangeably with Calluna vulgaris.

you would know this if you had any experience with heath, or bogs for that matter.

>I put a bit of time into them

time well spend I see.

>http://www.theplantlist.org/

this link is useless, no one's going to scroll through existing families of plants for fun, it's like reading a telephone book.
>Plant ID Sites
these are all useless, no one's going to use these over google and the vast majority will just ask the thread to ID them, brainlet.
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>>3071287
you likely won't die but you're not going to do it again after trying it once.

>put my pots in racks to clear the pond area.
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not sure what to do with all dis space yet.
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>>3071306
Thanks again bruh!
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One of my mango seedlings leaf tip has to begun to curl and dry up and I have no idea why. The plant is relatively short so the tips touch the soil, but they've started to turn green and perk up. My plant is in full sun, but I haven't been worried about it drying up since humidity is high here, but for now I have moved to a more less intensely lit location. It also has another mature looking leaf beginning to curl at the tip, but no appearance of drying up at all. I water whenever the soil appears dry.
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Repotted all my smaller astrophytum plants. My bigger plants have pups that are ready to pull off to grow on their own but that's for another weekend.

>>3071350
I think it looked better when the pots were around the edges. Is there any way you could maybe put the pots back but then camoflouge them with more stones or dirt so it looks more natural?
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>>3071287
You will probably get really sick from eating random mushrooms and could even die.
Alternatively, get a fungus field guide to your area and spend some time carefully learning how to identify edible varieties. Many poisonous ones are practically indistinguishable from edible ones, so be careful.
Either, way, take pics and post results.

>>3071288
Those Sempervivums are being shaded by the pot and the Sedum and will die if you don't take them out.

>>3071316
I like the new links. Already saved. Thanks, /plant/sman.
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>>3071435
They look absolutely delicious anon!
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>>3071435
it doesn't look good on pictures due to the bushes growing on the side, ruins the camera angle, those will be removed to make place for the alpine garden in the autumn.

more plants will eventually seed themselves between the cracks, it's too late in the season to be planting them myself and the root systems of potted plants are too big to push it behind the tiles.

I've only had the pond for a few months anyway so in terms of growth it's already going fast.
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>>3071345
>>3071435
I could feed some of them first to a puppy and wait a day and see what happens before I eat any. But Idk, that feels kinda wrong
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>>3071478
won't be helpful, toxicity isn't the same for dogs as it is for humans, our digestive tract isn't similar.
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>>3071287
It has a high enough chance of being a lethal mushroom to make it an unacceptable risk.
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>>3071478
>that feels kinda wrong
No shit?
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>>3071485
Also, poisoning a puppy! Such edge! Many bismuth!
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>>3071478
you have internet access why not just use that information to ID the mushrooms, or find a list that actually have psychedelic effects in your region
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>>3071504
because he's retarded

if you want diarrhea that badly just drink unfiltered water like a normal person ffs
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>>3071435
Nice berries
>>3071485
Nice primula
>>3071516
Nice duckweed
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>>3071518
that's some rare ass duckweed mind you
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>>3071287
I live in eastern yurop and pretty much everyone over age 40 picks mushrooms here. I don't think anybody I know has ever had any troube with poisoning. That said people aren't retarded and they ID the mushrooms before eating anything, which isn't as difficult as the anglo internet makes it out to be. Why are you looking to eat everyting you come across as opposed to just using google though?
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>>3071344
Did your flowpond get some insect guests yet?
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>>3071529
there's like a thousand different things living in it already.

somehow there's now aquatic slugs everywhere.

also there's a wasp nest in my fern wall and they drink from it.

it'll be a few years before it'll look like I want it to.
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>>3071523
when goblinos eat white shrooms, they absorb all the white genes on it
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Thoughts on this plant?
Growing it's a legit topic as it becomes increasingly legal in the civilized world.
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>>3071531
It's pretty much impossible to buy pond plants without also importing the snails and other hitch-hikers
I got three different snail species and one utricularia from one clump of eleocharis acicularis alone
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>>3071533
As a kid I grew some from bird food to be edgy, it was fun and the flowers smelled nice. If the drug version is anywhere near as simple to gow as mine was it's not worth much discussion. Put soil in a pot, add seed, give sunlight and water.
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>>3071208
why plants love fractals?
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>>3071541
The fractals are already there, the plants just let you see them. The fractals are the machines out of which this physical reality is constructed
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>>3071533
D U D E
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>>3071276
Hey i got one of those! Asplenium trichomanes is aesthetic
>>3071344
>>3071350
>>3071477
Looking good! I like the pockets of plants so close to the pond
>>3071544
whoa
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>>3071539
I grow a lot of plants to harvest (mostly berries and other fruits) and it's never that simple if a bumper crop is the goal. Drug-type plants require some training to maximize the herb's productivity and quality, and can use fertilizer too. Under grow lights indoors it turns into a science even keeping the plants alive.
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I need help.
What are some vegetables that don't require much light?
Let's say 2 hours of direct light and 8 of regular reflections.
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I have experience with a ficus ginseng, do you guys thing I should send an offer for this bad boy? Asking price is $300
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>>3071748
Any leafy vegetable if you're fine with low productivity.
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>>3071618
Nice
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>>3071569
asplenium ceterach is better
>>3071749
>$300 for a untrained stump
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>>3071802
>asplenium ceterach
Dang, I want one now. Thanks alot. (But actually thanks for showing me this plant exists)
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>>3071802
>>3071830
Oh i forgot, here's another interesting one I got, polypodium amorphum. Native where I live.
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does pot material matter?

which pots should and shouldn't I be using?

plan on growing tomato's, chilli, and citrus trees in pots
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>>3071749
Slam your dick in the cutlery drawer and send me the $300.

>>3071748
Vegetables like carrots, potatoes, beetroot, etc, are literally the way that plants store solar energy. If you want that sort of thing you need lots of sun.
Leafy things like lettuce and spinach and shit also want lots of sun. You can't really grow food in the dark.
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>>3071860
Plastic:
>cheap
>ugly
>keeps moisture longest, badly areated
>gets damaged in the sun
>heats up easily
>easily available square pots, good for hoarding
>easy to transport
>tips over easily

Clay:
>more expensive
>nice
>dries out faster and provides a lot of aeration
>gets damaged in freezing temperatures
>can damage delicate root tips when completely dry (mostly applies to epiphytic orchids)
>alkaline
>good insulator
>if kept continously wet will get algae all over
>if watered with tap water will get salt deposits on the outside
>heavier, won't tip over

Glazed ceramic:
>overly expensive
>nice
>keeps moisture well, not great aeration
>no algae or salt deposits
>gets rekt in freezing temperatures
>alkaline
>best insulator
>heaviest, won't tip over

Metal:
>don't

Wood:
>don't

Stoneware:
>perfection if you have too much money
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>>3071860
For fruit I'd go with clay pots, but make sure you're watering properly because they dry really fast on hot days.
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>>3071882
>if kept continously wet will get algae all over
Now I want this.
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>>3071882
well I work at a thrift store, so I should be keeping an eye out for stoneware pots and stuff?
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>>3071897
It's all a matter of personal habits, plant preference and local climate. If you tend to overwater, grow succ or live in a wet climate you'd want clay for faster drying for example. I love stoneware because
>keeps moisture for a long time
>no algae/salt
>heavy af, can withstand strong winds and my pets
>keeps cool in summer and warm in winter, so highlands that like their roots cool are still happy in full sun and plants that overwinter outside aren't on an endless freeze/thaw cycle that happens in my climate
>nonporous and totally inert with neutral ph and no weird glazes, so autistic plants are easier to keep happy
>pretty
Sadly I've never seen an actual pot for a reasonable price, i mostly just get random containers from thrift stores and drill holes in them.
Also all of that is completely unnecessary for basic veggies, they'd be perfectly happy in whatever container that holds soil and drains water you can find
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>>3071830
they're not actively cultivated, look for people who collect rock plants in your country, they're the most likely to have them.

also they look like shit during the early spring when they're just out of dormancy but there's hardly any pictures of that growth phase on the internet, this is normal.

you'll also like blechnum penna-marina, looks similar to A. ceterach but reproduces with root suckers.
>>3071834
we have no epiphytes aside from moss here, I cri everytiem.
>>3071896
just rub fermented dairy on it and you'll have moss and algae in no time.

yoghurt or buttermilk works best.
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Hey lads. How's my taste?
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You can choose a single seed to carry in an exoplanetary mission. Which one do you choose?
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>>3072076
Potatoe
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>>3071435
i really like the white ones!

>>3072070
sideways
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>>3072059
I can tell it's especially hard to find A. Ceterach in the US but I'll keep a look out for European websites that sell overseas, most I found are sold out of the actual plants and only have spores, maybe next spring. Heres another one, Polypodium glycyrrhiza.
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>>3071435
bottom rite ones look like they are gonna die from root rot or sumzing
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when do you guys water plants in garden? every day in summer? everyday in summer when day temperature is higher than 20*C?
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>>3072112
Only during expecially warm and dry times but even then only every few days. The soil here holds water pretty good.
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>>3072103
it's hard to find in mainland Europe as well.

found a white mutation of /an/'s favourite flower.

>echium vulgare var. alba
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>>3072118
>here
where?
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>>3072151
>>3072151
nice. i've seen it for sale, but never in the wild.
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So the house i moved into, it has a very large amount of bamboo on the left side of the property... and i was not properly contained. Think its possible to get it under control or maybe all of it needs to get axed? first time living with bamboo.
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>>3072179
Kill it by any means necessary.
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>>3072182
Yeah i've been cutting it back but looking at the effort and the cost of digging a trench around it and installing anti bamboo shield just looks to be way too much honestly.
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>>3072186
Burn it down and salt the earth
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so i want to grow lemons from seeds
what soil to use? i have only 2 soil types- one is for pelargonium and another is for rododendrons and heathers
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>>3072187
sounds like you have a very bad time with bamboo thats not encouraging at all haha
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>>3072190
use the ericaceous soil, citrus like it sandy and on the acid side.
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>>3072190
>>3072192
although, don't use it for the seeds. use a coarse sandy mixture.
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>>3072193
so sand + ericaceous soil ? at what proportion?
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>>3072195
i mean, use a sandy mixture to germinate the seeds, but the ericaceous for the plant later on.
the ericaceous might benefit from added sand or grit, i can't say without seeing it.
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>>3072199
i have no sandy mixture
but i have soil in pots outdoors and plants used to grow in these pots so the soil is sort of used, but i dont know what type of soil it is, it has little balls so it has fertilizer i think
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Newly planted Pinus Sylvestris Moseri with complimentary fat cat in the background
>>3072151
>>3072153
Neat, that's a super pretty flower
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>>3072195
you can get sharp sand at your local construction market.
>>3072214
would've taken seeds but they're unlikely to stay true to the parent plant, or the entire plant but it usually dies after flowering.

>divided dactylorhiza tubers
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>>3072269
i did not ask about sources of sand
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>>3072323
wow sorry for the advise.

try not to eat any of it or you might get sick.
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is it too late to grow tomatoes in central-east europe from seeds?
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>>3072332
yes. sow them in early spring. you should be at least getting flowers by now, so it's too late for seeds.
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>>3072332
Most likely but why not try? Just don't expect anything and watch what happens. I'm growing pepper babies by accident right now.
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>>3072191
Bamboo is a nightmare. Small clumping varieties you can dig out by hand, but anything that grows from a rhizome will need to be gouged out by professional stump grinders.
Imagine a solid block of wood the size of a small car just beneath the surface of the soil. That's what you could be dealing with.
Even after the stump grinders have been through the bamboo will keep re-shooting from fragments of rhizome and from the bits around the edges that the stump grinders couldn't get to. You will be pulling it up and poisoning it for weeks or months.
In the end, the "soil" in that area will be just shredded rhizome, so you'll need to dig that out and replace it if you want to grow anything other than weeds.
You have months of fun times ahead!

>>3072203
Those balls of fertiliser are designed to break down over the course of 6/9/12 months, so they are probably spent.
Don't use old pot soil. It has has all the nutrients sucked out of it and it doesn't drain properly.
Citrus want lots of water but they also need good drainage.
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>>3072179
You can learn to live with It. Is not that bad. Cut cut cut, mow around it. It will eventually reach a manageable size.

Problem is that you have to do it forever, or install some barrier.
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>>3072153
that looks like the weed that grows around here, but it's blue here
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>>3072364
the flowers are blue, but the stamen filaments are pink, so when viewed en masse, the whole can take on a purpley-hue
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>>3072372
i was mistaking it for something else. this thing isnt like it at all, but there is one that looks more similar at the bus stop nearby. might snap a pic later when im less busy.

also fucking cunt recaptcha being absolutely trash today forcing multiple of the slow shits constantly
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>>3072376
That looks like Comfrey, Symphytum officinale.
It's in the same family as Echium (Boraginaceae).
Many genera in the family have vibrant blue flowers.
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My cat used the cover of the sunflowers to attack a baby bird. I chased that furry bastard like a bat out of hell. That was yesterday, today the bird is still alive and my cat has not been let out at all. Guess I will have to wait till it starts flying to let him out anymore. On the plus side the sunflowers are like a little jungle and are real cool looking so yeah. I need to get New pics soon.
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>>3072443
Let nature take its course, retard. Let the cat kill and eat the bird.

Cringe and bluepilled.
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>>3072452
Cats are a human creation and a disaster in every ecosystem they infest. They should all be destroyed.

>>3072443
This is far from the first bird, mammal, reptile and amphibian your cat has attacked. It has probably killed hundreds of animals, if not thousands. You are responsible for this because you let it outside to kill them.
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>>3072538
I only let him out supervised, this is only the second bird he got hold of.
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>>3072452
>Cringe and bluepilled.

cat owners are the most beta of all pet owners, there's nothing more cringe than these virgins defending their glorified nasty rats.
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>>3072613
[X] Doubt
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got a rectangular pot from work for real cheap

probably 20cm by 50-60cm wide and 25cm deep

what would be good to grow in something like this? something edible
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>>3072700
there's room for two tomatoes/peppers, or some herbs, or just loads of salad greens. pretty versatile really.
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>>3072700
Mint
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>>3072705
>salad greens
recommended salad greens?
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Hey, can someone tell me the exact species of this wild Dianthus plant? It has long narrow leaves and grows on sandy soil in Western Balkans in the forests but there is still much sun.
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>>3072758
Another picture.
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Why not let them eat some of those songbirds and mice, who cares, it's not like the populations are in any danger. Would you rather have more coyotes, martens and foxes instead?
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>>3072787
I want martens
they cute
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>>3072758
>>3072759
most likely dianthus deltoides.
>>3072787
>Would you rather have more coyotes, martens and foxes instead?
yes, these are natural occurring predators that live in equilibrium with their prey.

cats are disgusting vile pests that add absolutely nothing, they are nothing but a plague in every single ecosystem they're introduced to without exceptions.

cat owners are eco-terrorists, you are the equivalent of an oil-spill and every single person would be better off if you stopped breathing.
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>>3072809
>disgusting vile pest that adds absolutely nothing
>nothing but a plague
>the equivalent of an oil-spill
>every single person would be better off if i stopped breathing
really bugguy, you are too hard on yourself
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>>3072825
cope
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>>3072190
okay you havent replied my question... so should i buy ordinary potting soil for lemon seeds?
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>Dicksonia Antarctica
Truly, a name fit for kings
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>>3072809
>most likely dianthus deltoides
How if its petals are not of deltoid shape? Otherwise it's very similar.
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>>3072909
not really relevant since they're usually escaped garden plants which have been hybridized to the point that they look nothing like wild specimen anymore.

if you're finding them way out, nowhere near civilization it's likely Dianthus petraeus.

just depends on the habitat really.
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>>3072912
>if you're finding them way out, nowhere near civilization it's likely Dianthus petraeus
The nearest civilization is 13 or 14 kilometres away, but the thing is I've also found Dianthus deltoides in some meadows in the middle of nowhere. Although, some rare mountain people did live in those places some hundreds years ago. Is pic related Dianthus deltoides?
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>>3072929
Could it be a Lychnis? They are closely related to Dianthus.
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>>3072787
in my enviroment there are feral cats, wild cats (I know some yuge hybrid of domestic / wild cat that visits our neighbourhood), martens, martes foina... etc

Not surprisingly, there are NO rabbits, hares, hedgehogs here. Being a bird at night must be terrifying.
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>>3072929
probably some wild variation of Dianthus petraeus or aridus then.

I've also seen pockets of white Dianthus deltoides, they hybridize a lot so pinpointing the exact species is a pain without seeing the actual leaves and habitat.
>>3072935
Lychnis forms obvious rosettes.
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>>3072845
Several people have offered you advice, and you haven't acknowledged or thanked any of them. But OK.

1) Use regular potting mix, or a specialist citrus mix if you prefer
2) Keep it well drained
3) Stop being an entitled little cunt
4) Don't expect too much because most commercial lemon trees are grafted onto hardier rootstock, such as Citrus trifoliata.
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>>3072991
>Lychnis forms obvious rosettes
anon only showed us the flower though
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>>3073012
he also described the leaves and would've seen the obvious basal leaves if it was a Lychnis, which aren't long and narrow.
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>>3072991
Do you happen to know this one? Similar habitat, and leaves are also long and narrow, typical wild Dianthus.
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>>3073034
Dianthus callizonus or so.

take better pics that show the entire plant next time, flower pictures are good but with species that hybridize this much you'll usually need more.

they're like saxifrages, if you have a bunch of them in your garden regardless of how different they may seem they will produce viable offspring, even weird combinations of perennials and monocarps.
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>>3072991
six spot burnet moth
one of my faves
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>>3073046
they're everywhere here due to the presence of Jacobaea vulgaris.

wanted to put some on my garden to attract them but they seed too much and grow everywhere you don't want them to get.
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>>3073042
>take better pics that show the entire plant next time, flower pictures are good but with species that hybridize this much you'll usually need more.
I usually try to, but sometimes my phone won't focus narrow leaves. This reminds me, I have a couple of good pictures of some orchids that I suspect to be some kind of Dactylorhiza (perhaps hybridized). Can you identify pic related? I'll post a better picture of flowers. The one in this pic was unusually high, as much as 40-50 cm. The soil is very moist, since there was a once a waterspring (happens also when raining a lot), there's lots of shade and the habitat is a very secluded, undisturbed place.
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Flowers of plant from >>3073061
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>>3073063
One more picture.
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>>3073061
not even gonna bother with dactylorhizas, they've got too many subspecies and variations of subspecies with more being created constantly because they're extremely prone to hybridizing.

it's probably some kind of Dactylorhiza maculata hybrid or subspecies.

I just divided some dactylorhizas >>3072269
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>>3071533
That's a male plant and wont produce female flowers. Unless your growing from feminized seeds you have to closely monitor your plants and weed out any males or hermaphrodites. A single male plant can ruin an entire yield.
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>>3073068
>it's probably some kind of Dactylorhiza maculata hybrid or subspecies.
That's what I thought so, thanks.
>I just divided some dactylorhizas >>3072269 #
That's based. Do you think they'll manage to survive? I thought orchids are pretty sensitive.
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>>3073072
you're supposed to divide them during the summer after flowering.
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>>3071208
Are there any resources for searching plants based on the region you're in?
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>>3072214
Nice cat.
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>>3073079
Where are you?
Have you tried googling "plants of [insert country/state/region]"?
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My Liquidambar "Gumball" that I planted out last year doesn't seem to grow very well. Is there anybody with some experience on them? The leaves are staying rather small, usually at this time it should have pretty big leaves so you can't see the boughs.
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When using these, how long do you leave the plant in them?

do you transfer them out as soon as you get some sprouting?
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>>3073419
in most cases, transfer when the seedlings have grow a couple of true leaves.
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>>3073414
I'm disgusted by your fence, your boomer lawn and your plant choice. What soil did you plant it in? How long ago? Was it ever fertilized? What zone are you in?
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Yo, /plant/
Now, I myself don't know much about plants or how to identify them, but last time I went to my local forest - I took a bunch of photos as a challenge for you.
Can you identify all of these, and if so - would it be possible to pinpoint my location to regional or even country level, based on nothing more than a bunch of flowers, a couple of berries and an apple tree?
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>>3071208
looks like Iceland
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Following my visit to Rudyard Kipling's garden, we took a trip to another famous historic garden my county, called Highdown.
Immediately upon entering, there was this lovely old glasshouse, filled with cacti and other succulent, and some of th.em very big indeed. Sadly it was not open to public, but I got the best pics I could from outside.
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Here's another pic, see how tall some of the cacti are.
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>>3073529
>>3073530
whoops. i'll make sure the rest are the right way around.
There was a big shrub of Ceratostigma, my favourite garden plant.
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>>3073534
>it's still not the right way around
ffs i rotated and re-saved like i always do
Here's a cool white spider I saw in a Rose.
please right way up
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>>3073537
ok i am getting pissed off now. all of my usual methods of ensuring pics post the correct way around aren't working at all.
Last try for now: Saw this guy outside the glasshouse. I have no idea what it is, so I thought I would ask the all-knowing /plant/
If it doesn't post right away around, I'm going to stop for now before I get into a bad mood.
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>>3073539
>it fookin worked
great!
There was a big Cornus kousa just past the greenouse, quite an unusual tree in my country.
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>>3073539
Pachystegia insignis.

should've taken a cutting, they're hard to get, been wanting to get some myself but only able to find seeds for sale.
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>>3073542
There were some really beautiful beds and borders, this one caught my eye, excellent use of height, with good contrastic colours and shapes.
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>>3073545
>with good contrastic colours and shapes.
it's too chaotic, borders like that are for shock value in display gardens you shouldn't strive to recreate them at home because they're not enjoyable to sit in.
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>>3073543
Thanks anon, but I'm not taking cuttings of a rare plant from somebody's century old garden.
Anyway, just past the border from my previous pic, there was a lovely pond with a huge clump of Zantedeschia in the middle.
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>>3073547
>chaotic
I disagree.
>>3073548
big fishies
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>>3073549
there is a huge Acer grisseum in the garden, it's over 100 years old and is supported with cables after being uprooted in a storm.
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>>3073550
this combination of orange Hemerocallis and purple Cotinus really caught my eye. I've never seen them planted together. picture is a little bright, but you get the idea.
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>>3073552
The whole garden was filled with Peonies, both the herbaceous kind, as well as huge 'tree' Peonies.
But in the entire garden, this was the only flower left. Next year I'll make sure to visit earlier.
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>>3073552
what a clusterfuck
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>>3073555
gotta go for a bit, so I'll leave you with this giant Aloe that was quite happily growing outdoors, around 5 feet tall.
when I come back I'll share some pictures of the huge herbaceous borders.
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>>3073556
yeah it's messy, but i only posted to show the colour combination, which really liked.
it's from one of the less-maintained areas of Highdown.
the place is huge, and it's managed by the local council, so it shouldn't be any surprise to see neglected areas.
anyway, gotta go
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>>3073545
Is that fennel in the back?
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>>3073561
it's not going to be in the back for long if you get what I mean.
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so i have almost a full bootle of fertiliser to balcony plants in gel that is expired several months because of my degenerate mother who buys shit and does not use it - it applies to fertilizers too
is it still good to use to indoor plants? or maybe to outdoors plants or to both? the bootle stayed outdoors
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>>3073387
Suburbs north of Washington DC, though I spend a lot of time on the Eastern Shore of Maryland
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https://imgur.com/a/nMtH64V
Anyone know what these are?
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>>3073079
the plants you need it for are usually not from your region otherwise you'd be familiar with their name.
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>>3073742
I'm very unfamiliar with botany.
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>>3073746
you can find most species when you look for their leaf shape + flower color + country on google images.

their new algorithm made it harder though, lots of dumb unrelated shit pop ups now.
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Found this soft pile of wormy things sticking to the backside of a leaf. Seems to be slime-mold or maybe eggs or something, can anyone help with identifying it?
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>>3073649
Why have you not googled "plants of Maryland"?
If you had you had googled it you would have found some good resources at the Maryland Biodiversity Project and Maryland Native Plant Society, to name just a couple of sites.
Don't demand spoon-feeding all your life, jfc
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>>3073760
Looks like insect larvae of some sort huddling for warmth or protection. As always a location would be helpful.
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>>3073649
You can also check out what people have reported on iNautralist, wherever you are.

https://www.inaturalist.org/lists/131069-Plants-of-DC
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>>3073771
Central europe. The thing sticks to a baby sunflower.
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>>3073767
I googled it but I'm bad at sorting through and using the resources.
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>>3073079
Don't you have local identification literature?
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>>3073799
I'm totally new to all of this.
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>>3073818
search your country/region + 'flora'
there are links in the OP for UK and US flora ID.
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>>3073771
Okay, seems like you're right, upon a closer look there seem to be heads and segmentations in the darker ones on the sides. Guess I just have to wait a few days and watch them grow older.
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Finally getting down to identifying some of the plants I've found. I've tentatively identified three plants so far
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What do you guys think of PlantSnap? I installed it but I've found that I trust my eyes more
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It's looking pretty good.
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A whole foot taller than me now.
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I love watching them grow.
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>>3073818
Enjoy it. There's lots to learn, but don't be intimidated.
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Well, I think poor Adenium has finally had enough.
Over the course of a year it's had mealy bugs, spider mites, and then severe fertiliser burn.
It managed to grow a few tiny leaves this summer, but now the new growth is appearing browny yellow.
I'll keep looking after the little fat fella until he finally croaks it, but I don't think there is any chance of saving him now.
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is there a way to revitalise soil?

I found a couple of pots with soil in them around the side of my house

has probably been sitting there for a decade or something. is there anything I can do to make it usable? I kind of want to put a pineapple crown in one lol
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>>3074179
don't use the soil without sterilising it before. anything you plant in that old nasty stuff is likely to get diseased and mouldy.
i would just throw it away, it's not worth the effort when you can just buy a fresh bag for a few coins.
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>>3074179
You're better off getting a bag of cheap potting mix for your pineapple.
The pineapple plant is surprisingly big and it needs nutrients to grow to maturity over a couple (?) of years, and then lots more nutrients to make a pineapple.
The old soil is probably depleted of its organic component. Plants, fungi, worms, bacteria and other things have been feeding on it for years and rain has been washing nutrients out as well.
You can make your own soil by making compost and mixing it through dirt, but that takes time.
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>>3073581
bump
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>>3074263
Beautiful stress
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>>3074397
They haven't changed color whether they are in the ground, or in this shitty concrete pot. They've actually bounced back considerably since I potted them this spring. Living outside in climate zone 6A is a constant source of stress, these are not carefully manicured balcony plants.
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>>3074406
Mine baking in the Sun. Maybe two months without water.
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Butterfly magnet
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>>3074179
It's more like using it as a filler for making new one but yes.
>mix it with compost, natural wood ash, manure and leafy litterfall
>dig out a shallow pit and mix your soil mix with that earth and chopped turf
>put everything into the pit, water it and cover it with a dark, sturdy, airtight foil
>leave it for at least a year

>>3074179
>fungi, worms, bacteria and other things have been feeding on it for years
This actually makes soil good. They feed on the bigger things, producing the smaller things your plants feed on. The problem is, old pot soil is probably lacking exactly that since it most likely fell dry for too long.
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>>3074456
What is it?
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>>3074663
jasione, probably J. montana.
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look at this lazy asshole
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>>3074702
kill it with fire
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>>3074702
as far as demonic weeds go, it's a 10/10 from me tbph
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>>3074709
>>3074714
whats wrong with it?
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>>3074767
terrible invasive shit weed
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>>3074788
>TOUCH ME
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>>3074799
with a gas torch
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>>3074799
does this fucker have pods that blow’s it’s load when you touch it
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>>3074867
Yes, they explode everywhere. The leaves are edible though.
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Since this is peat bog edition I would like to tell you all about Sphagnum, often known as peat moss.

Sphagnum a pretty next level moss. It produces the most hostile environment it can for other plants and thrives in it. It essentially deoxygenates the water and then also acidifies the shit out of the area, ensuring nothing else lives there. It also absorbs a ton of C02, so global climate-wise burning peat isn't very cash money.

What Sphagnum IS really for is being used as a bandage. The moss is antibacterial, twice as absorbant as cotton, and regrows in the bogs. For these reasons, it's also a superior diaper, and was commonly used by Native American mothers for millenia.
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>>3074977
Was it used in and as bandages during the First World War?
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>>3074977
>It produces the most hostile environment it can for other plants and thrives in it. It essentially deoxygenates the water and then also acidifies the shit out of the area, ensuring nothing else lives there

How come people grow plants in it, then?
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How expensive are orchid seeds.
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>>3075044
>How come people grow plants in it, then?
people grow carnivorous plants in it, because it replicates the conditions they grow in the wild.
it's not a suitable medium for almost any other type of plant.
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>>3075048
depends on the species of course.
orchid seeds are notoriously difficult to germinate, as each species seed can only germinate in the presence of specific fungal partners.
i'm not sure people really do it on an amateur basis, although i'm happy to be corrected on that.
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>>3075048
Seeds aren't that expensive, but you also need a specialized medium and a completely sterile environment.

>>3075058
And also orchids, begonias, liverworts and many others.
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What's the basic bitch of plant world?
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>>3075101
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>>3075098
those aren't typically grown in live sphagnum.
>>3075101
succulents, carnivorous plants and everything that's edible.
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>>3075104
What are non-basic bitch beginner plants?
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>>3075106
all beginner plants are basic, it's why they're beginner plants.

there's many obscure easy-growing plants that no one cultivates for some reason.
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>>3074977
Also when they grow, they take water up with them since they can hold so much of it and slowly drown entire forrests.

And using dead one in potting mixes isn't very clever either, climate-wise and ecologically.
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>>3074702
>>3074788
I like it, I only see it growing in really dry and hostile spots, anyway. Doesn't look like it's stealing anythings place here.
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>>3075101
hoyas and aroids
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>>3074265
pump and bump
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>>3073228
Thanks
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>>3075736
I better be careful, this is a blue board
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What's up with this discolouration?
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>>3075986
This is Botrytis.
It's a common fungal disease in gardens, usually showing as mould in leaves or fruits, but in Roses, can cause these red spots on the petals.
There is no effective way of eradicating the disease, but you can reduce it's spread.
Make sure your Roses are pruned properly, with good airflow between the stems and through the plant. It's also very important to keep the ground around the plant clear of old leaves, which can help to spread all kinds of pests and diseases.
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Random bonsai guy checking in.

Here's a boxwood I recently purchased. Got my first chance to work on it Saturday at a group thing.

It was rescued from a house that was getting demoed in an old part of Houston that's nice and gentrified now. Estimated maybe 60-80 years old as slow as boxwood grow?

Not 100% done with cleanup but you can tell the difference it made for sure.
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>>3075115
you'll regret it.
>>3076135
they reach that thickness within 15 years.

it's a slow growing shrub in terms of overall height, but the trunk thickens relatively quickly.
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I need some Amorphophallus recommendations.
I have been growing Konjacs for a few years now and I'd like to improve the kinda monotonous voodoo lily corner of my balcony with some new species. Been thinking about bulbifer or paeoniifolius, but I know pretty much nothing about them.
Show me your favorite misshapen penis.
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>>3075986
When watering roses and most other plants it's best to keep the water off the leaves and flowers so the moisture doesn't encourage pathogenic fungi.
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>>3074788
You can try arisaemas, arisarum, too.
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>>3076238
go titan or go home
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I've been having a bad problem with earwigs in my house. I live in a shitty mexinigger constructed cardboard apartment surrounded by poorly managed land overpopulated with certain insects, so I'm not surprised that I see them in my house

That being said, I see a couple more in my house every single day and I'm beginning to think I've got it bad. They've begun to crawl into bed with my gf and I and it's really freaking us out. Is there anything I can do?

The reason I'm asking on the plant thread is because I'm wondering if all of my potted plants on my balcony are possibly attracting them to my place in particular.
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>>3076596
Don't blame other races for the fact that you live in a shitty, insect-infested shithole.
If you want to use race to excuse your failure take it to /pol/.
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>>3076602
No, I blame my parents for bringing me here. Not much to do with race at all.
The question is about plants btw
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>>3076596
You can tell if the plants attract earwiggers by checking under the leaves for small visors
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>>3076605
>mexinigger
>Not much to do with race at all
Are you even aware of what you type?
If you're old enough to be sleeping with your girlfriend AND you still live with your parents AND you blame your parents and Mexicans you've never met for having a shitty apartment, you really need to man up, get a job and pay for your own fucking apartment.
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>>3076634
>being triggered by the n-word on 4chan

>>3076596
They're not attracted by plants, they're attracted by moist areas and hiding places. They only come inside when outside conditions are bad, so either it's too dry and hot out or your house is a moist moldy shithole. If there's a lot of mulch/rotting wood/dead vegetation outside get rid of that.
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just watered my plants until the brown water came out of drainage hole
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>>3076729
good job
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>>3076315
I'll get some once I'm done with the alpine and hardy orchid garden, they're not remarkably interesting.
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>>3076729
hot
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>>3073581
bump
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>>3076883
liquid fertilizer has a shelf life of like 10 years.
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Just made this mess of an underplanting
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>>3076930
My finest specimen of polypodium amorphum
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>>3076930
>caprobrotus
>under a tree
>with ferns and hostas
i mean, ok
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>>3076933
I like to be rebellious and if that means overplanting my shady rock wall with a few inappropriate full sun plants then so be it
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>>3076930
awful combinations, proud of you.
>>3077039
use loam to keep the soil in the cracks, will look better.
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found a good lesser known plant channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/westoaklandturdunit/videos

>californian wildflowers

wisteria already in second bloom, probably actually gonna have 3 blooms this year.
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>>3077043
Thanks :) I did use loam for the plants in the cracks but I put bark dust on the top layer because it keeps the soil from running down when i water
>>3077056
Nice! My wisteria only bloomed once for the second time ever this year back in early may, pic related
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>>3077067
>>3077056
Yikes here's a better quality pic
>>3077043
Pond is looking super nice too, I think your underwater wall planting subconsciously made me want to plant stuff in walls
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Does anyone know any good fungicides for Anthracnose and Powdery mildew?
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anyone have tillandsia? got a xerographica, paranoid about watering it too much/not enough, but it hasn't died yet, so...

pic not mine
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>>3071295
Nickname to this plant from what I heard was Hens and chicks.
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>>3071344
>>3071350
poo in it
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>>3072179
plant creeping fig for a slow-mo vine vs bamboo war. whichever one comes out on top, can fuck your bottom
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>>3077056
Can attest the excelent drought tolerance of w. sinensis.
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>>3077102
there are none. practice good garden hygiene.
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>>3071208
can anyone tell me the differences/advantages/disadvantages between parthenocissus quinquefolia and tricuspidata?
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>>3077450
Both should be destroyed with flamethrowers

>>3077437
This should be the new /plant/ meme tbph
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>>3077485
P. quinquefolia is the superior choice, as it has the most leaflets.
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>>3077485
If you plant quinquefolia you now have quinquefolia forever, all over everything, no changing your mind.

Tricuspidata takes longer to get to a respectable size and is slightly easier to keep in check.
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>>3077572
It holds the leaves better than tricuspidata?

I have one small tricuspidata and it's very lazy to put new leaves in spring. And it quickly gets rid of them in fall.
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Still a plantlet; how can I better protect my flowers? I don’t know if this is an infection, or maybe I underwatered them? Is it fungal? Is it shit soil? And what’s a practical, non-chemical way to guard my plants from slugs and bugs? Help!
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>>3076893
ok
but can i use it to indoor potted plants?
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>>3077437
lowers my pH too much
>>3077478
good garden hygiene is bad for biodiversity though.
>>3077681
looks like leaf blight

>And what’s a practical, non-chemical way to guard my plants from slugs and bug

there aren't any, you can try spraying it with garlic water but that's by no means practical.
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>>3077478
Telling me to practice good garden hygiene isn't really helpful when the plants I have are already infected though. I at least want to try salvaging them.
Or are you really saying that no fungicides or treatments really work so for next time I just have to try harder to keep my plants cleaner and disease free?
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>>3077681
Buy ducks and chickens.
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planning on using some heavy duty tubs I get from work for free to plant some stuff in.

What's the best way to fill them up after drilling the holes? is it worthwhile dumping some food scraps after filling it by 2 or 3 inches with pottings soils then filling the rest up? will soil in a container benefit from food scraps or will nothing happen since worms or whatever won't have access to the tub
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>>3077994
check what they're made of, some plastics are toxic.

it depends on what you want to grow in it.

you'll get worms, don't worry, wouldn't dump scraps in them though as they'll probably end up clogging your drainage holes.
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>>3078002
>you'll get worms, don't worry
how does that happen if my tubs are just going to be sitting on pavement?
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>>3078008
>life finds a way....
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>>3078008
if you're using soil there's likely worm eggs in it.

I even find worms in pots I have on the top shelve like 6' off the floor in gritty soil.

>clear ass water
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>>3078008
Worms go wherever they want
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>>3078002
oh and as for the toxic thing. am I better off using styrofoam containers instead? I can get a hold of those as well

and what's the best way to prep soil and how long should I wait before planting

rn I have some cheap ass $2 bags of potting mix, some yates blood and bone bag, cheap mushroom compost and chicken fertilizer.

been buying all this stuff but desu don't know how to use it lol
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>>3078012
just check what they're made of, avoid BPA.

still don't know what you're trying to grow.
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>>3078013
vegetables most likely tomatos
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how are you supposed to know if your tree cuttings have taken root?

I tried 6 avacado ones. started on the 1st of may. 4 of them look like they turned into sticks (were originally green stems but now just brown/black) the other 2 are still green

should I do anything to them or just co Tinie to leave them as it is?
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>>3077760
there are perfectly good and common fungicides like copper soap and potassium salts available.
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What's with this weird cup shaped leaf on my grape?
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>>3078008
You need to punch several big drainage holes in each container of that size, or else they will become waterlogged and kill your plants.

Worms will get up through those drainage holes (which is a good thing). Birds will also drop worms or inadvertently deposit worm eggs that they have inadvertently stood in elsewhere.

Have you ever cleaned a roof gutter full of leaves? They're always full of worms too. Worms get everywhere. Which is great.

>I have some cheap ass $2 bags of potting mix, some yates blood and bone bag, cheap mushroom compost and chicken fertilizer.

If you're going to use all that you need to thoroughly mix it in together. Spread out a cheap plastic sheet or something and spend some time mixing it all through. Make sure you don't use too much fertiliser so you don't burn whatever you're trying to grow.

Make sure you have big drainage holes, or those things will fill up with water like a fishbowl.
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>>3078380
Make it like a fifth of a bag of mushroom compost to each bag of potting mix, and maybe half a handful of each fertiliser.
Blood and bone and chicken shit are additives, not a potting medium.
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>>3078414
>Blood and bone and chicken shit are additives

What do they actually do. I just see people add them to their mix lol
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>>3078513
they are fertiliser
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>>3076612
I just heard that they like to burrow in shaded dirt areas so I thought maybe my plants were a comfy habitat.

>>3076634
When did I say I lived with my parents? They kicked me out years ago.
Also when I said mexinigger I was referring to the cheap construction of my apartment; I'm sure they hired some college normies and actual niggers too.

>>3076692
That would make sense. My house is pretty clean and tidy but the weather outside can't seem to make up it's fucking mind. Today was pretty humid and warm outside and I didn't see a single earwig in my house.
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How to encourage stem growth of tree seedlings? My avocado tree is getting tall but the stem is very thin relatively so I don't want it to collapse on itself, but I also have nothing to strap it on either.
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I'm really theorycrafting here but I'm not sure what to expect past the first obvious result.
I want to shape an herby annual, but the main technique will involve seriously depriving it of light to train it upwards for as long as possible, followed by giving it light to promote growth, and finally pruning to fit my top heavy design as it recovers. I'm okay with letting it get to the point it needs temporary support, but not much further than that on this trial.
Wish me luck.
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>>3079326
Get a tall bamboo stake, push the stake right to the bottom of the pot or w/e and use plant ties to tie the plant to the stake. Don't tie it so tight that it will damage the bark as the tree grows,
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>>3079326
where do you grow it? if you grow it indoors where there is no wind, it will grow thin and weak.
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>>3079404
Would a fan that's alternating breezes be a good way to train a plant stalk (indoors) to become sturdier in absence of wind then?
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>>3079427
You can't grow an avocado tree indoors. It needs all the sun it can get.
Yours has a thin stem because it is etiolated. It is desperately stretching to try to find sunlight Put it outside.
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>>3079428
I'm actually this degenerate >>3079385 wondering if I could abuse a fan on plants I'm trying to cause to stretch.
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>>3079429
Not sure why you would want to waste electricity tormenting a sickly plant that is only going to end up in the bin, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
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>>3079438
I want to see what effects it has on yield. The plant will end up in the pipe and cooking pot later. Another idea I had was putting a shade bag on parts of the plant.
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>>3079447
>I want to see what effects it has on yield.
Didn't they teach you about this stuff in kindergarten?
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>>3079470
The efficiency of an etiolated plant vs an unetiolated plant in the same lighting with the same leaf mass?
No.
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>>3079574
*after de-etioliation
The process of etiolation -> de-etiolation happens naturally as seedings grow anyway, and without ill effect.
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>>3079427
Just pet and fondle your plants gently twice a day.
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>>3079614
they stress
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>>3073504
Easteurofag



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