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birds are dumb
>>3068308Smarter than you
>>3068312you are, yes.
My stepmom brought home two parakeets in a criminally small cage one day randomly a few weeks ago.So I went out of my way to go to a pet store and buy a much bigger cage, bought proper food and water holders, toys, perches, the whole 9 yards. Spent like $200 on birds that arent even mine. I couldnt live in a house with animals in shit conditionsAnd you know how these fucking birds repaid me for spending my hard earned minimum wage bucks on them?These motherfuckers scream ALL DAYI WORK OVERNIGHTSTHEY KEEP ME AWAKE BY SCREAMING FROM 7AM WHEN I GET HOME TO LIKE 7PM WHEN IM WAKE UPPLEASE END MY LIFEI HATE THESE BIRDS I HATE THESE BIRDS I HATE THESE BIRDSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>3068360>why do animals act like animals???
>>3068396>yeah bro, birds are supposed to scream for 12 hours in a row, only stopping to eat and drinkI just want them to just chirp, not screechPlease anon, make them stop
These blackbirds and redwing black birds are eating all my birdfood and they bully my golden finches!
I'm considering a bird for a pet (as I live in an apartment) - dont know shit about birds though.Where can I get an overview / general insight into birds as a pet?
My bird has been screaming for the past 2 hours because I was asleep. Now that my eyes are open and I'm on my phone, he's roosted on a stand besides me and is crunching his grit as if he's about to go back to sleep.
>>3068397Just be glad she got parakeets instead of something like a cockatoo. >>3068543Read the links in the OP.
>>3068360just point a fan at them
>>3068543>apartmentThere's less expensive ways to get evicted, anon.
>>3068360parakeets are not even that loud faggot
>>3068581Do what a good wife does and cuddle with him while sleeping.
>>3068308burds r dum
>>3068699they are louder than cats and bunnies. Budgies will definitely wake up someone who is sleeping if they screech loud enough. Yes, cockatoos are louder, but it does not mean that budgies cannot be noisy to those who are not accustomed to noise.
>>3068581let me guess, you have a lone bird and have not gotten a bird friend for him because you are afraid that he will fall out of love with you?
>>3068692Depends on shithole.>>3068543Find someone IRL with pet birds.
>>3068397You can't, budgies will make noises constantly
>>3068723I have a lone bird because he has been snapping and fighting with every bird I've had him interact with since getting him. He doesn't even hang out with me much unless he calls me to interact. Usually, he likes picking apart foam, watching the fireplace, and doing flying tricks. I wish he'd get a gf but girls intimidate him. >>3068707He cuddles in my hair when I'm asleep and leaves me before I wake up.
>>3068767Fix your sleep already dude. Stop falling asleep midday.
>>3068774Fffff no that's only in the morning. My midday sleeping is more of a genetic defect I inherited from my dad's side or some shit. He once crashed the car with me in it when I was a kid and he fell asleep out of nowhere.
Anyone know what bird I saw? Im at a local pond and some sort of geese/duck showed up, pitch black with some yellow around its eyes. It dived down underwater and moved extremely fast like a torpedo and did this a couple times to catch fish. I didnt manage to get a clear photo if it as it flew away
heres one of my quail
>>3068857Yes! This is the bird
>>3068935Apparently this is Double-crested Cormorant.
>>3068940They are pretty damn good swimmers too, surprised at how long it remained submerged
>>3068979This is such a BDE move.
>>3068979why the fuck my pp hard
Hey, just want ya'll's two cents.I'm trying to pick between these two plum-headed parakeets, almost weened. One has better colors and is relatively quiet, but he pinches pretty hard. The other is bigger, less/duller colors, and doesn't really pinch; but it never shuts up. It just peeps constantly. So, who would you pick?
>>3069089To clarify, no idea on their genders. They're just green right now
>>3068581My cockatiel used to do that to my mom, who usually sleeps near his cage. Eventually he grasped that even though she was not moving and making funny noises she was not, in fact, dying.Also fun bird trick: every once in a while my dad, his favorite, had a very small seizure because of a brain tumor they removed. He refuses to look at my dad or go near him for about a minute or two before any seizure. Like if my dad is in front of the cage he will stare at the back and vice versa. This would be more useful if my dad still had seizures but hey not many birds could be a service animal.
>>3069093Wow, I've got to try this the next time I feel myself having a seizure though I really can't tell and so far I haven't been in the same room as my bird when I have one. Maybe it's one of those things about how brains are electrical and birds can see electrical fields or something so they can see the brain seizure.
why are there so many threads about birds
>>3068360Put them in another room anon? I don't know what to tell you. I take naps when my parakeets are being assholes and they are in the same room as me most of the time. They do calm down eventually and make cute little burbles for the most part though.
Look at this fucking dumb idiot
Recently I went to a pet zoo where they had a birb section. One of the fuckers landed on my head, climbed down and ate the tag that was hanging off off of my backpack.Either way I also saw the cutest, sweetest Caique I think I've ever seen. Stepped up on my finger right away, climbed on my shoulder and just chilled, no screaming, no biting or anything.Made me want to get a Caique, though I don't know anything about them. I only had a cockatiel before.Is it advisable to get one? What am I to expect? Are they alright by themselves or do they require company?
>>3069248very loud. make sure you are absolutely sure you are prepared for the commitment. if you want to travel or get work in new places i would not recommend it. if you have to travel a lot i would not recommend it. If you like having a quiet peaceful house i would not recommend it.
Owlfriend is hooting up a storm tonight.I wonder what has him so worked up
SEAGULLS ARE CUTE!!!! I LOVE SEAGULLS!!!!
>>3069216Who would win?
>>3069721nice picture anon
>>3069742I need to start bringing my camera backpack on my bike.
>>3069089>>3069091Id do the one that punches harder, you get used to it or you can train it out.
>>3069723the bloatlord, obviously
>>3069588They are cute, until they shit on you.
lads.. theyre all here..
>>3068543Don't get parrots (any parrot). Doves are cheap and quiet. Finches aren't loud but probably too small for you.
>>3069858You have a point. Thanks
great horned owl multiplayer gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYDQuNsvM0M
Black-backed Wagtail waiting for the trainAt JR Sagami Line Atsugi Station
How realistic/viable/humane is it to acquire a leucistic/albino birb? What would I need to consider in such a hypothetical? Mainly interested in crows but would like to know more about that kind of condition in birds in general.
>>3069904Except for parrotlets.They are pretty quiet even though they are like a tiny big parrot personality wise.Mostly just do weird little sounds and quietly babble on and on about stuff.I made the mistake of assembling furniture in front of mine so he would throw in some profanity. A lot more quiet than a parakeet.
>>3070298iirc albino animals usually come with health complications as well
>>3070388I also heard that. It makes me extra cautious and watchful over my albino parakeet.
Why doesn't my bird want to get out of the cage? There is nothing scary in my apartment and he flies out himself maybe 1-3 times a week and spends maybe 30minutes to two hours outside. Often I can perch him on my finger and lift him out, but he just sits on the cage.He doesn't explore the house AT ALLHe either stands on the cage or stands on my curtain pole. That's it. He doesn't climb on curtains, explore couch or bed or anything.He has been with me like three months and he is kinda scared of people, like doesn't let them pet or get too close (me included)
>>3068301What's the best pet bird? One that is social with humans. The rescue mockingbird from 3 1/2 months ago was finally let free today. Mockingbirds are really fun and social. They chirp back to you, and are like little best friends. Any other birb with this feel.
>>3071784I like my parakeets but understand they aren't for everyone. They interact with me a lot and are almost always checking out what I am doing when I am with them.
Hello /an/, I am a lurker, occasional poster. Never owned a more "advanced" bird breed, so I'm a newbie.>me and gf wanna get a birdWe'd like something similar in intelligence/cuddliness factor of GCC, rose ringed-parakeet, loverbid etc etc. The problem is, that we're still students and from time to time we leave for an extended weekend, we work (max time spent the flat is spent unoccupied on a daily basis is around 5-8 hrs.) and the main thing is we go for vacations in the summer, around 2 weeks. I'm afraid the bird would be malnourished of attention that way, we can get friends to come in every day/every other day to take care of their physical needs, chit chat with them for an hour or so but that is it, and I feel like an hour every two days for 2 weeks straight is very little and don't want to leave the poor guy/guys alone for too long. Are there any anons who have had a similar problem and somehow solved it? Is there a breed that isn't that needy but still can act friendly and be taught and tamed? thanks in advance lads
Anyone have experience with lineolated parakeets?What are they like?
>>3068360Just put some rubber bullets I'm your ears.
>>3070554Now he hasn't been outside his cage for five days. You wanna know why? He only wants out in the morning before work so I can't let him out.
>>3068979That motherfucker just ate his weight in whole fish, in seconds. Birds are too overpowered
Why doesn't my bird want to get out of the cage? There is nothing scary in my apartment and he flies out himself maybe 1-3 times a week and spends maybe 30minutes to two hours outside. Often I can perch him on my finger and lift him out, but he just sits on the cage.He doesn't explore the house AT ALL. If he is out, he sits still. In the cage he sits stillHe either stands on the cage or stands on my curtain pole. That's it. He doesn't climb on curtains, explore couch or bed or anything.He has been with me like three months and he is kinda scared of people, like doesn't let them pet or get too close (me included)
>>3072064Second this question.
>>3072962My african gray was like that for like 2 years... But after couple vet visits and moving to other place he got more-less interested in surroundings.
>>3072962Sounds like depression.
>>3071966Just get more than one, it's the sensible choice anyway. You don't easily keep those birds happy as a single if you're not an old lady that almost never leaves the house and has no other friends.
>>3072962Bump this fellow bird. Have you seen how he acts with other birds around?Also, howdy.
>>3073045What could I do to get him more active? I feel bad because he just sits there. He is getting a friend in about three weeks.>>3073090Well fuck. What can I do? the cage is big enough (like fucking big) and I keep the door open all the time im home. He has toys (doesnt play with them) and natural branches etc.>>3073101No I havent. I got him from a pet store and they all just sat there, in a kind of a smallish cage
>>3073749>What could I do to get him more active?Idk, try giving treats while he is outside.
Why are birds so faggot?
>>3073838They are not. They are based and featherpilled.
Quakers were a mistake
What is the best part of BIRD??>the BEAK>DINO FOOT>WINGZ>WIDE OPEN CIRCULAR EYES>CLOACA (KISSHOLE)
>>3073905Based on all accounts. I would say the feathers themselves are nice, too.
>>3073905Falcons>the BEAKBetter>DINO FOOTCooler>WINGZFaster>WIDE OPEN CIRCULAR EYESYes>CLOACA (KISSHOLE)Basic option in all birds.
>>3073912>Basic option in all birds.Standard equipment, actually. Different models have various tradeoffs thought.
>>3073917Yes.>>3073912>>3073905>best part of BIRD??Fuck, I had a brain fart.Beak.
>>3068979im way too aroused at this
I just got a budgie. What can I expect? I've never had a pet bird except for bird rescues before (mockingbird, pigeon, dove, killdeer).
>>3073905I don't even know. >BeakBeak is a cool part of a bird. I have been always fascinated by it. It is real multi-tool. Feather preening tool. Chisel. Vice-grips. Knife. Wire cutters. All in one package. Definitely one of the best parts of a bird.>FeetBird feet feel so good. Warm, scaly, so grippy, and so powerful for its size. Definitely one of the best parts of a bird.>WingsWinds are absolutely one of the best parts of a bird. It is so similar, yet so different from airplane wing. I finally started understanding how airplane works only after I got a parrot and started looking on its wings. >EyesEyes are cool.How eye that small can provide such good vision? Not speaking about sun protection and UV-colors.>CloacaCloaca is definitely one of the best parts of a bird. One hole that does them all. Weight reduction, mating, you name it.Sure, getting shitted is not exactly pleasant, but it is not that disgusting enough to stop me appreciating superior design on birds. Normies hate this part, however.There are many more parts of bird, which are definitely cool, like feathers, lightweight and strong bones, intelligence, etc.
>go look up the legality of owning a turkey vulture in my province>obviously not legal, but for some reason black vultures are fine>go to look up black vulture breeders>none exist or have ever existedwell that dream died about as fast as it was born i guess
>>3073973Get wild one. People that prevent you from owning one will become food.
>>3073905>>CLOACA (KISSHOLE)>KISSHOLEI have a question. Did someone unironically this? If yes, I have two questions: why? how?
>>3074017>Did?Yes.>Why?Because it's fun for everyone involved.>How?Ingredients: 1 amorous bird, 1 sexually free bird loving human1. Place bird on a flat surface, or somewhere they can easily balance on2. Apply pressure to the bird's back3. If bird enters a mating pose, run your hand or finger from the base of the neck back to the tail4. Grasp the base of the tail and stroke up5. Rub or kissu the exposed vent for up to several seconds6. When bird pulls away, let go immediatelyIf bird doesn't enter the mating pose, you can try massaging behind the thighs or around t wings. If this doesn't work, bird probably just isn't in the mood. Bird will likely strut around and ruffle feathers violently just after this process, this is normal. For their safety: Do not attempt to push any object beyond the vent on any bird lighter than 50lbs (~22kg).And they said /horse/ was the most "degenerate" thread.
>>3074020Um... I meant to ask how does it feel, but OK.>And they said /horse/ was the most "degenerate" thread.Idk, I see here someone claiming they licked leaky hole second time probably. Plus that epic ostrich thread...I'm confused now. Do people unironically do this? Or it is just screwing around...
>>3074025What do you mean, "how does it feel"? It feels like kissing, kinda. Being warmer than us, the heat is pretty intense, and they sorta kiss back with pulsing while going totally bananas. They orgasm literally a second or two in.>Do people unironically do this?Yes, I'm not lying to you.
so do animals have souls? or are they just biological robots
>>3074034The latter. But do note that humans are the same, we're just much better as fooling ourselves into thinking otherwise.
>>3074040so what's my reason for living
>>3074043You were literally evolved over billions of years to prioritize your own life and the life of your family and species. Propagation is your primary reason to live. As a very intelligent animal, humans can choose to do different things instead.
Chickens are smarter than people give them credit for.
>>3074045that doesn't mean it was right. it's just that the only ones of us left were the ones that happened to prioritize propagation. that's a dumb fucking reason to stay alive
I got a visitor who decided to eat lunch in my backyard
>>3074034There isn't really a binary state of having-vs-not-having a soul. It's more nuanced than that.Simple organisms like bacteria and insects (also complex ones like plants) are basically biological robots that collect resources and make more of themselves.Animals like cats, dogs and birds have a POV and experience stuff like sounds and touch through their senses and have a basic understanding of their environment but aren't aware of their own existence. Their whole life is like a dream you don't remember when you wake up.If you mean "soul" in the sense of an aspect of consciousness that persists after death, then there's no reason to believe humans have those either. What would it do that isn't explained by what's observable by physical laws?
>>3074091I like to think it as a life force or "light projected" upon the creature and they have different capacity of experience allowed by their brain complexity. The point of this thought that same light is shone upon every creature, but it's filtered into various degrees, from somewhat clear experience like human (though he still has to learn to see) to very opaque and limited like insect (with no change during it's lifetime).Of course one could say it's the opposite, insect has the clarity while human only sees what he wants to see, preferring his preconceptions and ideologies because it's the way to make life look like it makes sense to him.I don't know, I'm just glad I'm here to see it happen.
post fast birb
>>3074112That fits in with the Gnostic view that living creatures are infused with bits of the divine spark of varying sizes filtering into this reality from the pleroma (totality of existence) which leave them with varying levels of awareness up to the point where they can potentially achieve gnosis and escape.
>>3074074It is probably cool to live in australia, $1000 birds flying for free...
>>3074032Really degenerate general.
>>3074066I didn't say it was a good reason. I said it was the baseline reason. You have to invent other reasons if you want them.
>>3074256It's only degenerate if you take the position that enjoying giving sexual pleasure to a non-human somehow makes you less of a human. As if some sexual essence is poured out just because you enjoyed getting a bird off. Artificial insemination procedures also get birds off, but that's fine. Doing it for recreation though? Clearly degenerate amirite?The line drawn in your head is not there for any objective reason. Culture merely says it's so. What if it was culturally acceptable to masturbate birds? Would society fall apart? Or would it just be a mundane thing some people do?It's clear to me that it would be the latter. We'd be the tiniest bit less sexually repressed, but everything would go on as normal.
>>3074302Nigger, you're making out with a goddamn cloaca, justify it all you want, you're still a sick fuck
>>3074302anon..you're allowed to have whatever weird fantasy you have, but please don't take it too far
>>3074334That's not really an argument, it's just doubling down on "society told me it's wrong, and of course the popular view is always correct, so I believe you're sick for doing it". Normie tier thinking. My "justifications" are not baseless. I don't want to derail the thread so I'll allow you one more chance to give me a real reason why it's wrong. If I'm not satisfied with your argument, I just won't respond.>>3074345It's no fantasy. If it's not something you would do, I understand, but please don't criticize without good reason
>>3074356I just realized that the pic I used might make people think I'm cormoranon. I'm not. I suspect he has similar feelings about things, but I'm not him.I'm also not usually this autistically technical with my posts, but I think the subject deserves a little more rigour than I usually use.
>>3074302Well, you're weirdo. I thought kisses with bird (beak, not leaky hole ones) are weird, but I don't judge. At least you didn't tried to insert foreign objects into the vent, r-right?>>3074334Bird is fine too.>>3074345At least he better not telling this shit anyone IRL.>>3074356You don't need to justify, birds fuck humans regularly, so...I have one question. Have you tried birdshit? Just curious what other fucked up shit have you done.
>>3074367And what bird do you own?Anyway, stimulating birds is bad, since it turns then into weirdos too.
Every single parrot I've seen so far owned by either my family or neighbors (cockatiels and budgies) always seemed really scared or anitsocial and would fly away and rumble around in their cages if you tried petting them or anything like that, they also wouldn't come close to you either if you left them out of the cage and would erratically start flapping their wings trying to get away if you go too close to them while they were out of the cage.I'm definitely thinking this isn't normal behavior, right? I want to get myself a cockatiel later this year but I'm not sure, will it be doing the same stuff the first time I get it from somewhere? I know I'm supposed to be bonding with them but how should I go about it once I have him home?
>>3074367lmao I have no illusions that I'm not weird. I don't believe I'm unethical, but my thought process is far outside the norm on many things. I don't think that "normal" often makes any sense, and I see many "normal" behaviors which are harmful but for some reason accepted.>foreign objectsSee: >>3074020>>Do not attempt to push any object beyond the vent on any bird lighter than 50lbs (~22kg).I have tried on birds which are a few pounds, but they seem to not enjoy it if you go beyond a couple cm. Unless you've got an emu or ostrich on your hands, it's better to just not.>what other fucked up shit have you done.I don't eat bird shit, lol. I've gotten urates in my mouth from vent-kissing but I spit it out. Tastes tart and bitter. I'm not into anything like that. I'm only into making birds happy, and it turns out that kissing is far superior to rubbing for them. I won't deny that it's better for me too though, it feels like a more personal 'connection'.Other fucked up shit I've done: Rubs under wing and across breast. Preen gland massage. Scratches along neck. Stroking bird while they sleep in my lap. Truly reprehensible acts.>>3074369Birds are naturally weirdos. They don't care about your fine human-centric sensibilities. If you don't want a bird to think you're their mate, then it's a bad idea. Otherwise there is no harm as long as you're dedicated to them.
>>3074372All birds need to be tamed, otherwise they are scared/antisocial.With taming even weirds stuff like >>3074020 is possible,
>>3074382>I don't believe I'm unethical,There is no such thing as ethics.Wait. Stealing kilometer of rail tracks from this thread is not exactly ethical, lol.>Other fucked up shit I've done: Rubs under wing and across breast. Preen gland massage. Scratches along neck. Stroking bird while they sleep in my lap. Truly reprehensible acts.This is some normal-tier shit. Except oil gland maybe.>Birds are naturally weirdos. I don't think so, otherwise they won't survive since they would fuck tree, idk, stone... Who knows.Still, what sort of birds had you stimulated?Can you determine sex using stuff you posted above?
>>3074402Also, I don't think human saliva in exhaust vent is particularly good for birds, so you better quit this shit, but unironically, before they got some weird sort of infection.
>>3074402There is such thing as ethics if you care about something. Ethics are a guide to the accomplishment of large social goals, like having a stable society where people can interact respectfully and pursue their own, smaller goals.>This is some normal-tier shit.No way, that stuff is in the same category as hand holding. Abominable behavior.>otherwise they won't survive since they would fuck tree, idk, stone... Who knows.I bet they do. Probably not the simpler ones, but corvids? Intelligent animals get curious and adventurous about everything, including sex. That doesn't mean they won't also reproduce normally.Also parrots are all autistic.>what sortA 'tiel, chickens, and a turkey. Chickens are absurdly sexual, almost every hen will enjoy it. The cockatiel liked it on rare occasion. The turkey was one of many hens I've met who would tolerate being touched at all. Once she found out how nice it was she became very affectionate.>Can you determine sexKinda. Males tend to not be responsive to simulated mounting.>>3074404I've been doing this for a long time and neither myself nor they have ever gotten sick. I think the possibility of cross species infection like that is massively overblown. If they're not sick and you're not sick, it's fine.
>>3074450>That doesn't mean they won't also reproduce normally.Depends. Some are so autistic they try fucking everything, while others get fucked up for life.>Once she found out how nice it was she became very affectionate.Nice shortcut for taming.
>>3074461>Nice shortcut for taming.I mean, I will definitely try this first, when I will finally get a female for my parrot, since I have no intentions wasting another year...
>>3074461It's a small shortcut. When they see touch as a potential lead into an orgasm, they handle a lot more easily. This makes it less of a challenge to show them that other kinds of touch are nice as well.You do have to be on good terms first of course. They need to see you as a friend, and they can't be scared of hands.>>3074473You don't have to go so far as I do. Just a rubbing with a wetted finger is enough. I go further because it's a bit better for them and it feels more engaging for me.
I wanna be stepped on by a female cassowary! Help!
>>3072336That's silly, Anon. You forget that birds are super light. He probably ate more than his weight in fish by a pretty good margin.
>>3074499Perfectly normal. It's just your mammal brain naturally wanting to be dominated by a superior theropod.I bet it would actually feel good to have one walk on your back. Maybe some ear nibbles too.And I wonder how hot and soft the head skin and wattles are. On a turkey they're very nice to rub.
>>3070388Look at that dude. He's just like, "Motherfucker, do you see these glorious wings?!"
>>3074504Go back licking cloaca and what not.
>>3074513I definitely would a cassowary. You wouldn't?
>>3074504no I don't imagine letting a cassowary walk on you would feel great, they can weigh quite a lotnow a harpy eagle? they can rip my back up with their talons any day
>>3074525Harpy eagle?African gray parrot can pierce through skin if he wants (and has sharp claws, since I dremel them once in a while).Harpy eagle can probably kill ya, if you piss it off.
>>3074525Imagine those talons on the inside of your thighs. She'd grab firm, but not enough to break the skin. Unless maybe she loses control a little bit.>they can weigh quite a lotSo does human. Never had someone walk on your back? If it's too much weight, they can keep a foot on the ground. The narrower bony foot of a cassowary would be able to work muscles pretty good.
>>3074532I think most birds, even relatively small ones could do some major damage if they wanted.Even blackbirds are homicidal.>>3074538haha
>>3074540>I think most birds, even relatively small ones could do some major damage if they wanted.>Even blackbirds are homicidal.Depends. I think under 1 kilo no bird can do damage to human. Unless human can't move for some reason. >>3074538>She'd grab firm, but not enough to break the skin. Unless maybe she loses control a little bit.Birds have no clue about force they are using.
>>3074554>Birds have no clue about force they are using.Keep your logic out of my sapient harpy eagle sex fantasies.
>>3074573hey pal I dont want to fuck an eagle I just want to rub its talons
>>3074584I also want to rub its talons.Maybe during missionary. Perfect position to lace your fingers through them while looking into their eyes, too.
>>3074573I warned you. Maybe your skin it super thick, who knows.>>3074584I think as long as bird is not perched on hand, it won't hurt. >>3074596Nah, I wanna scratch eagle belly.
Is there some way I can be fused with an ostrich like just my head on the back of its head to enjoy the ride?
>>3074601whenever I see someone stroking a raptor, they just look more confused than anything
>>3074618They are not sure, if they like it, or they hate it and wanna bite, this is why their beak is half-open all the time.My parrot, for example, if 100% sure he would bite all the time...
>>3074618Ernie, stop touching my pects, please.
>>3074618>>3074626The mouth open thing is just thermoregulation. They look confused because raptors usually look confused. They have resting confused face.
>>3074669>The mouth open thing is just thermoregulation. Maybe, difficult to say. >>3074618 - here I have doubts that bird is too hot.>>3074601 - maybe, since you can even see tongue sorta moving.
How do you get your new budgie to start eating? All mine does is stand in one place and does nothing quietly.
>leave room to pee>come back to room>bird waiting on the floor by my door for me to come backbased clingy bird
>>3074034>so do animals have souls?If they have consciousness, they have soul. Ez as that.
>>3074907if they and we lose our memories when we die then what was the point in living
>>3074932>was the point in livingBurning carbon, so thermal death of universe happens faster.
>>3068301I'm going to be inheriting a cockatiel in the next year or so and have no fucking idea how to care for a parrot. What do?
I fucking hate this asshole.
I don’t want to clip my untame budgies’ (I have a pair) wings, but I’d like to get them out of their cage in my room. Should this be okay?
>>3074907>If they have consciousnessWe don't know what that is.
>>3068301I just found this bird in my yard after my cat attacked him. There's a mother bird watching hopelessly too. He can't seem to fly. What should I do? I'm a city fag so I know nothing about animals besides dogs and cats
>>3075126Fuck forgot image
>>3074963He/She looks like a good birb though
Post your favorite birb
>>3070388he wants a hug <3
>>3075014of course it's ok, i never clipped either of my birbs' wings. if they happen to get loose, would you rather them fly to safety, or get hurt because they can't get high enough into a safe tree. also, just because your bird gets out of the house, does not mean you have lost them - they will more likely come back, and playing with them will make them want to come back to their home, as opposed to a bird who is never let out to play. both my birds got outside - and i got both back - i used their toys to lure them back to me.
>>3075213they look so fluffy
>>3072064>>3073026I had one for several years. Despite taking him out of his cage every day (I had an open "playground" in the living room for him to chill on), letting him sit in the shower with me, and doing my damndest to socialize him, he was always kind of an asshole. He didn't pick up any speech but every now and then would whistle. Their feathers are not as soft as other small birds. Also, they are absolute shit factories. I was surprised. I had only ever had a cockatiel to that point (still have her) and he easily shat 4 times more than the cockatiel.They're cute and I know every bird will have a different personality, but from my own experience I think you're better off with a cockatiel or parrotlet. I kept a friend's parrotlet for a few months and he was fucking awesome. And my cockatiel is just a huge sweetheart. The linnie didn't have a whole lot of redeeming qualities other than being cute. That said, you can find youtube vids where linnies are hand raised and seem very affectionate, and that might have been the difference; I bought mine as an adult, so he was probably never going to be as nice as one from a small-time breeder.
>>3075166Vultures tolerate touch quite a bit, so he'd probably just give you that incredulous bird look if you did it.
>>3075014Clipping wings is fucking disgusting. It's illegal where im from and is pure torture
>>3075407Where wing clipping is illegal? > is pure tortureTrue, since you basically turn normal bird into bird that still would fly, but would crash into everything.
>>3068301Found these feathers under a pine on the edge of a woods butted up against a cornfield in northwest Indiana. Never encountered a bird with these types of feathers before, any ideas?
I have an affinity for lovebirds. I’ve been following multiple accounts. I know myself though, and I know it’s not the right time for me to get a bird. I want to wait until I own a home and can have more space.When did you realize it was time for you to get a birb? Did you regret it? How can I keep my birb from being depressed? Is there somewhere I can adopt birbs that need a home or can’t fly as opposed to a “new” birb?Thanks guys.
>>3075471I've never seen a ringneck with such vibrant colors, otherwise I would agree with you.
>>3074152Did it pull it's fucking head off
>>3075155>>3075282His/her (i still have no clue which one) name is coco and this fucking asshole hates everyone. This fucking asshole will drop their food because they want crackers or carrots. This piece of shit will try to bite my dog because it doesn't like the attention he gets.
>>3075647I guess you need to re-calibrate your parrot. >>3074020>1. Place bird on a flat surface, or somewhere they can easily balance on>2. Apply pressure to the bird's back>3. If bird enters a mating pose, run your hand or finger from the base of the neck back to the tail>4. Grasp the base of the tail and stroke up>5. Rub the exposed vent for up to several seconds>6. When bird pulls away, let go immediately
>>3075650birds are for snugg not fugg
>>3075702>tfw bird doesn't want to fuck me but he does like to give me cuddles, kisses, and songsforever alone...
>>3075127looks like an American Robin fledgling
>>3075702From their point of view, there is little difference.
let me tell you a story about wing clipping. I work in the gardens at a community centre. I came across half a budgie. why was he only half a budgie? because his wings were clipped, he couldn't get high enough into this small tree, and ended up getting his head and neck caught in the fork of this bottlebrush. he must have "hung" himself. because he couldn't get enough lift to get onto a branch. anyway, there are goannas in the gardens, and they came and ate his bottom half. poor little bugger. the fork he got stuck in was only about 2 feet off the ground. Now i believe if he had not had his wings clipped, he would still be alive. he certainly would not have hung himself in the first place. never clip wings, just never.
>>3075702Mockingbirds ironically make the best pet birds
>>3075416Not that anon but here in germany it's illegal for private owners. Declawing is, too. And I guess both of these things were never commonin the first place since outside of the internet, zoos with free running bigger birds and livestock I have never heard of it.Getting single birds is also something I never thought people would do until I found this board and I guess at least in switzerland that's finally illegal, too.
>>3075935>Getting single birds is also something I never thought people would do until I found this board and I guess at least in switzerland that's finally illegal, too.This is actually bad. A lot of people can't handle taming one bird (especially bigger parrots), and now they will end up with two birds being absolutely wild and untamed in tiny cage...
>>3075995That Banjo x Conker hentai was bumped on sad panda so I read it and it made me think about Kazooie because I don't think she would've been appreciative of Conker's behavior but she was only in one panel and that made me sad because I like her :(
>>3076004i dont know what that has to do with my post but i wanna fuck kazooie
>>3076013Solid choice. I'd love to plow Kazooie while she makes the "breeee hon hon" sound and I tell her she's beautiful.Banjo can watch if he wants.I know the Breegull is supposedly based on the hoatzin, but I don't see a huge similarly. Hoatzins are striking birds, though.
>>3076098I don't see it, she looks more like a crane.
Getting a peach faced lovebird, it's my first bird. I have a cage and a few toys set up. Food and stuff ready to go for when it arrives. Any guides / pages I should check out for what to do when it gets here?
This little bird got his head caught in a weak mouse trap, but he wasn't bleeding or otherwise obviously damaged and could walk when I got him out. A couple hours later I saw him on top of this wood pile and he hasn't moved for like 20 minutes. Is he done for?
is this 18x18 cage big enough for budgies
Sup /bird/ found some neat looking ducks and I thought I'd share
>>3076446>>3076447I would go for a wider shorter one. They will only spend time at the top and thus limit the space.
>>3068301Which bird is the fluffiest of all?
>>3076525Do you have any recommendations?
>>3075990Bad for humans that want to be cuddled, great for birds because they don't care if they trust humans enough to cuddle with since they have a bird buddy for that. Most people keep pets to have fun watching them, not to replace a partner, expecially birds.Also keeping them in tiny cages is illegal too.
>>3076747My birds don't super like each other and I think one of them would honestly prefer to be alone with just me.
A bird built a nest on my back porch and now there're 4 eggs in it. I've never seen what made it until today since it seemed to only stay in the nest for a few hours late at night or early in the morning.Today I stepped out a bit early and something that looked like pic poked its head out and flew around the porch. I went back inside but I haven't seen it since.It'll return to it's nest right? I didn't scare it away did I?
>>3076747>sit in cage 40+ year>goodOK.
>>3068301>DIY cagesbasedbut those cages might have cracks where their toes get stuck in so be careful as fuck.
>>3068979>suddenly became too heavy to flyhuh, now that's a fishy situation!also they're not meant to do that, at all. They catch one fish, not 4 at a time..this is quite a feat.
>>3070554did you cut his wings in the beginning? if so you psychologically tortured it into becoming a coward give it a quieter spot and give it more territory, until it's comfortable to demand
>>3072259anon you massive retard.Open up its fucking cage and let it decide for itself when it gets outyou're a shit pet ownerlet it decide for itself how and when to fly wherever, then it'll grow courageous by itselfyou keep it limited and locked up and wonder why it behaves like a prisonergod bird owners are always massive retards who torture their birds and then don't understand why it isn't happy
>>3076866>anon you massive retard.Not really, he has some common sense, because>Open up its fucking cage and let it decide for itself when it gets outThis is recipe for injured bird, especially when you're not at home and/or can't keep eye on bird.Our houses may contain a lot of hazards, like leaded paint, or simple electrical wires. Bird left alone can easily get lead poisoning from paint by chewing it, or start a fire by chewing through some electrical wire. It is common sense to keep bird in cage, while you're not at home.>>3070554>Three month Well, that is OK for bird to be that skittish in first months.How tamed is he? Does he sit on finger?>>3076812This. Lawmakers have no clue about any laws are they making in majority of cases. They are relying on some weird semi-related studies.Also, majority of owners get a mate after a while anyway. It is much easier and more effective to tame one at a time, than dealing with two birds at same time. >>3076747Watching bird in tiny (yes, even 2x2 meter cage is tiny) is ok, sure.But having one (and eventually 2+) hang out with you is not.
>>3076901Vultures always look like they're up to no good.
>>3076906Watching two birds in a big cage and the whole living room for half a day is okay, having one or more of them hang out with you is okay, too.Having one bird that has no other option than to wait for the owners to have mercy and spend time with it isn't.Of course if you couldn't give less fucks about how much quality social contact the bird gets and just want to make sure the poor human gets as much as he wants without the trouble of making friends first, getting a single bird, clipping its wings and forcing it is the best way.
>>3076812Are you all retarded? The cage is only for as long as no one is near because letting them fly around in your house can get dangerous if you don't check on them every now and then.Or are you comparing it to single birds clipped or on leashes that the owner takes with them whenever he leaves the house?
>>3076906>It is much easier and more effective to tame one at a time, than dealing with two birds at same time.Even 10 year olds manage it, anon. Don't be a lazy ass, learn patience and get a gf if you want someone clinging to you. No need to traumatize birds. And if's really too hard you can always get second hand ones or buy from a private breeder because those are tame already.
>>3076921>Watching two birds in a big cage There is no such thing as a big cage, unless we're speaking about big room sized aviary. >and the whole living room for half a day is okay, having one or more of them hang out with you is okay, too.Only if tamed. Having untamed birds out of cage that barely trust humans is not OK, since it is plain dangerous. All birds should trust you. They don't have to be cuddly or anything, just they should follow commands like recalls, and be OK with you taking them on hand>Having one bird that has no other option than to wait for the owners to have mercy and spend time with it isn't.That is still better, than having two birds in cage 24/7, and that usually happens when not that dedicated owners get birds. >getting a single bird This is perfectly OK (and actually better), as long as you're going to get a mate in the future. >and forcing itSome birds are stubborn and there is no way around it. But when it comes to basic training, like stepping up and recalls, you better force, than be sorry, when you can't pick bird up while it flew away for whatever reason. >clipping its wingsI never understood this, since it is dangerous. Birds expect some performance from wings, and they will fly like shit and injure themselves, because performance doesn't match. >>3076936> Don't be a lazy ass, learn patienceLonger it takes to tame - more stress it is. I recommended a lot of people to separate birds (after years of unsuccessful attempts to tame), and all of them had their birds tamed within couple weeks.Also, having one already tamed bird makes it so much easier to tame second, which no little to no stress at all, since bird see that other bird is OK, and copy behavior.
>>3076922Cool fact: there are more bird pairs in cages, than single birds hanging with owners.
>>3076936>get a gf if you want someone clinging to youBird gf works too.Cons: It's more like bird wife. You have to commit hard.
>>3076906what the fuck?Unless it's an African grey retarded enough to start chewing electrical wires, I hardly see how any bird can hurt himself by just being out of his cage during the day. We always let our birds roam free and see for himself what he does during the day. They don't eat plastic if they aren't hungry although they love wallpaper and anything foamy to destroy..Ought to worry less about his safety and more about his freedumbsthat being said, open windows will lose you your bird.Maybe i overreacted but seriously, most birds should be able to always leave their cage (big parrots are the only ones I could see exempted but that's because you need alot more than a large cage to keep them any sort of happy so it's a bit different for them)
>>3076987>Unless it's an African grey retarded enough to start chewing electrical wires, Technically, even smaller birds like lovebirds can chew through thin mains cable no problem.>I hardly see how any bird can hurt himself by just being out of his cage during the day. In general it is true, but birds have tendency to chew on stuff, which can be dangerous for them.> They don't eat plastic if they aren't hungry although they love wallpaper and anything foamy to destroy.This is the problem. If you're at home - it is not big deal, since you can stop them (also this is why hand taming and basic training are number one priority). But if you let them while you are out of the house, they can cause damage to a house, and more importantly, get poisoned by whatever 1950's lead reinforced asbestos molding, or modern chink plastic that contains all sort of nasty chemicals in it. Even some fruits/vegs are dangerous for them.>that being said, open windows will lose you your bird.True. But with proper training you can try recalling it back. Anyway, better invest in mosquito screens. And harness to train recalls outside. >Maybe i overreacted but seriously, most birds should be able to always leave their cage Yes, but only when there is someone at home who can prevent them from doing stupid things. >big parrots are the only ones I could see exempted but that's because you need alot more than a large cage to keep them any sort of happy so it's a bit different for themThey should get out of their cages too, but with bigger parrots it is even more important to monitor them, and be able to handle them, since they bite badly.
been feeding a group of 2-4 crows after work you guys should have seen how careful it watched me and waited for me to turn my back to get at the food it was too funny. it literally did a sideways crab walk to keep an eye on me.
>>3077005my birds only ever chewed on the same cable, it's pretty easy to make them stop doing it if you start early. if you see them doing it, punishing them right there by chasing them away tends to let them know to not chew itdon't lock up your birds, it'll only make them unhappy and fatthey need to fly and exercise and move around a bit
>>3077017>my birds only ever chewed on the same cable, it's pretty easy to make them stop doing it if you start early. if you see them doing it, punishing them right there by chasing them away tends to let them know to not chew itSome birds are smart enough to understand that "laws only work when police is watching". As soon as you leave the room, they might go back chewing that wire. This is why I kinda don't like idea of letting birds out of cage, while you're away from home. >don't lock up your birds, it'll only make them unhappy and fat>they need to fly and exercise and move around a bitYes. They should be out of cage, while you're at home. And should be in the cage while you're sleeping, or being away somewhere.Also, I believe that birds must be trained, faster - better, so you're better getting one at a time, or having them separated, while you're taming/training. And this is why I don't really like "you must have 2+ birds" laws. A lot of people will give up taming, and since dealing with untamed birds out of cage is difficult (different tricks, like adding new seed, or putting treat in cage not always work), they would sit 24/7 in cage, which is much worse.
>>3077015crows are the smartest animals, be fucking scared, they can help you out or harm you. They treat you like you treat them. >>3077076you're right but you threaten with violence for crossing that line which tends to scare them and you try to tell them it's bad so they might know it's not funny or good for them to do, they're not retarded and only look for food or fun, if it's worth neither they'll ignore it. I had only one bird, it clung to us alot because we couldn't get it a mate. We found one, but he was younger and got chased
>>3077084>but you threaten with violence for crossing that line I don't know what others do, but I say "NO", and if bird doesn't back up, I take it. I don't think that scares them.>you try to tell them it's bad so they might know it's not funny or good for them to do, they're not retarded and only look for food or fun, if it's worth neither they'll ignore it.I guess my parrot just likes hearing me shouting... This was probably a mistake. In any case, you never know what is fun for them, and this is why I think it is better to let them out, only when you're at home. >I had only one bird, it clung to us alot because we couldn't get it a mate. We found one, but he was younger and got chasedWell, it is always a possibility.
>>3077104Scare them a little bit, as if you're going to rough them up for chewing that cabledo it a few times and they'll get the pointobviously don't actually hit your bird, they're really weak even though they act strong..
>>3077092Are crows niggers?
>>3077225Nah, they're just the most based bird.
>>3076942Yeah that's almost like saying how many people would have killed their cats if they couldn't have get it declawed.Only because some owners are not capable of dealing with their pets in a normal way it doesn't make shitty methods less shitty. Normalizing this 'easy and fast or not at all' toddler behaviour would only cause animal care standarts to sink further and further.I'm glad some areas make steps in the opposite direction so that some things that caused a lot of suffering are slowly being called out as such.It's just a little weird most bird owners are years behind rat owners on the social topic.
>>3077255With birds taming is much more important than socialization, because safety is number one priority. This is why I think having single bird and buying second afterwards is more correct for majority of bird owners, especially those who have no past experience with birds, and can't "reed" emotions.Just go outside, you will quickly find out, that amount of single birds that are allowed out of cage is significantly greater, than amount of paired birds, that go out of cage. In most cases paired bird owners will say you, shit like "reee, we tried, birds are stupid".Also, single parrots kinda survived for 40-50 years, which suggests that it is not as critical, and being single for couple years won't result in problems like plucking instantly.
What are some good cages for a pair of budgies?
>>3069241looks just like mine, is he an asshole who bites any chance you pick him up too? also whats his personality like is he aggresive or friendly. mines a bit aggresive but calms down now and then and lets me pet him.
Alright time for the ultimate debate who do you like better and why. personally i like the macaws colors but i love the energy of cocatoos and how easy it is for them to talk and sing and be autistic little spazz balls. also side question what dictates a birds tone of voice? some have higher pitches while others are lower is it based on gender or is every bird just diffrent?
>>3077308>also side question what dictates a birds tone of voice?African grays tend to copy intonation of owner, or whoever was teaching a phase.But my gray actually made his own voice, that is in between my and my moms pitch... I suspect that he sorta understands on some intuitive level how human speech is constructed, phonetics stuff, and I have never heard him mixing English with Russian, while he mixes phrases in Russian.Maybe I just ignore wrong stuff, who knows...
>>3068301Can I give my brothers budgie strawberries or is that dangerous?
>>3068543Get a fuck doll instead there cheaper and serve the same purpose
>make a cuddle motion to my hand towards my bird>bird flies towards me expecting cuddles>doesn't cuddle him>mfwhehehe
These faggots only love me when I have millet
>>3078020My parakeets fight when they are that close to one another. Why do they hate each other?
>>3077308Mockingbirds are always the best best birds
>>3078198For pets. The best pet bird
>loophole in laws says I CAN kill crows but only if they are in my yard and posing a possible threat to livestock>buy chickens just so I can kill sky niggers with my slingshot
>>3078224Dude, sky niggers are gulls, not crows. Crows are based, they eat bugs and shit. Gulls only shit.
My birds keep pooping in their water. How do I fix this so they poop less in their water?
>>3078312Move water higher.
>>3078296Those bugs are for native birdsSky niggers gulls included do not belong here
>>3078316Where do you live, if gulls and crows aren't native?
>>3078321I think crows are native there... Gulls would be native there too.
>>3078316Crows are a cosmopolitan species. They been native to nearly everywhere for a long time.
>be vulture and corvids>stereotyped as a grim avatar of death>actually just goofy birbs
>>3078316you could mean endemic, not native. there are subtle differences between endemic, indigenous, and native.
>>3078351I saw a raven bully the shit out of a koala today so they do get to keep some edgelord cred
>>3078351they can be both you know. Goofy avatars of death.
>>3078062Two females maybe?My female lovebird (the one on the right) fights the male for no reason too. They are territorial little cunts.
>>3078375They're too smart for their own good. Makes them get bored easily, so they start harassing retarded animals like koalas.
>>3074372>get the bird YOUNG (10 weeks) from a good BREEDER (not a pet store)>interract with him DAILY>feed tons of treats from hand>talk to him>play with him>invite people over>take him to places with a carrier
>>3074907sometimes i punch my budgie unconscious. Does his soul leave because i punch too hard
>>3078390The koala was sort of near the ravens nest so I'm pretty sure that's what caused the bullying
>>3078377I have two male parakeets, I think (one is albino so unless I get it gender tested I can't just see the blue cere). Anyway they fight and I wish they were buddies. Is there any reason why yours fight? Or just territory?
How do I train my bird to get on my hand without treats? He comes when I have treat between my thumb and index finger, but not without.
>>3078578I kept saying up and pressing a bit under my not hand raised ones belly. Whenever he is reluctant to step up now I just say that and press a little and he gets up on it. Just ply with treats until they do this for you.
>>3074618found my answer, birds DO like it
>>3078578This is why luring is a bad training tactic. You fucked up. Look up clicker and target training
>>3078582This is also a poor training tactic
>>3078601Oh yeah they definitely do. Very simple rubbing like that is okay, but if the bird really trusts you it's a lot nicer for them if you work your hand down to the skin all around the breast and keel and just rub along it. If they don't trust you fully it can frighten them, but if they do it gets them really relaxed. Under wing, same deal. They gotta trust you, but it's a nice massage spot.Also the area under their vent is a prime scratching spot for chickens since they can't really get to it themselves. Your hand is going to get poop on it if you go digging around there, but the scritching causes them to go crazy clacking their beak.
>>3078609Maybe, but it worked and he listens to me. I needed to be able to get him the fuck out of the cage or back into it quickly. I used clicker training after I was able to reliably move him around. Now the fucker doesn't leave me alone for even a moment and it didn't do any harm to him.
>>3078647Man my bird just does what I want if I tap a surface. If that doesn't work, I roar like a bear or show him a bright orange object and he comes over.
>>3078582>Whenever he is reluctant to step up now I just say that and press a little and he gets up on itDon't all bird do this without a verbal signal just because otherwise they would loose balance or had to fly away?
>>3078735I wanted him to learn the voice command with it. For the most part he doesn't need either. It is only when I am trying to put him away when he still wants to play at night that I ever have to say up anymore. He kinda prances around a bit pouting but is clearly looking for the best way to get on my finger so he can be moved. For the most part I don't have to do this really and he gets on by choice, but he knows the word which is helpful.
>>3078719Thanks for adding my sig. I forgot it.
>Devoted life long partners>One of the best, most successful parents in the animal kingdom>Highly intelligent>Despises degeneracy and adulteryIs there a more perfect bird bros?
>>3079046Looks and sounds like ideal bird wife material. Shame about the whole "can't keep raptors without a bunch of bullshit" thing.
>>3079055I agree, amount of legal bullshit around birds tend to be astronomical and often it doesn't make sense.Even amount of documents needed to move parrot abroad is insane.
>>3079046They're probably the cutest vultures next to bearded vultures.
I set up a nice bird house on my balcony (8th floor, commie block) and I put some sunflower seeds in there. Some Great tits (Parus major) started appearing. It is a pair. I can't tell male from female. I can't explain the behaviour of one of them: the madlad just screams all the time with its mouth open while the other one is jumping back and forth and frantically feeding it. What is weird is that the loud hungry one that is getting fed is already about 30% larget that the poor fella feeding it. I'd say he's getting fat, that fucker. Four of them arrived now and there's still the fat one screaming. What am I witnessing?
>>3079506I have a question. How effective are eagles at home security?
Oh look, 300. It's going to be a while, but...Rember: No Discord
>>3078020either a weird angle or that bulge on his back looks unhealthy as mine didn't have itjust saying early prevention makes cheap prices
>>3078576pretty sure even albino male parakeets have blue noses which indicates male gender but maybe I'm completely wrong here?
>>3078726>poor training tactic >if my bird doesn't listen I roar like a bear or show him an orangelmao
>>3079359the fat one either has massive autism and his mum is still caring for itor one of those birds that put their eggs in other birds their nests (forgot name lol) got to them
>>3069754>heard u was talkin shit
Why are birdfuckers such good, attractive, morally upright and high IQ people? It's an interesting phenomenon
>>3079935Anyone who likes those other slutty animals only like them because they're naked. Birds naturally hide their skin and are therefore pure and based.
>>3079935I'm not sure about that...
>>3079937I guess because birds are considered stupid by majority, but birdfags had their own opposite opinion about subj, which is apparently closed to truth.
>>3079935Mammals are familiar, and dumb people like familiarity. Birds are reserved for the thinking man.
>>3079741They don't. Mine has maybe a bit of a hint of it? I think he is male though based on how he acts.
>>3079750I'm pretty sure it's cuckoos that do this but don't quote me on that.