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The Plant General - Sea Holly Edition

Welcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.
Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.

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current list of shit that I want for my future rock garden:

Viola delphinantha
Campanula zoysii
Campanula thyrsoides
Jankaea heldreichii
Iris acutiloba subsp. longitepala
Gentiana farreri
Celmisia ramulosa
Plantago nivalis
Eriogonum caespitosum
Eritrichium nanum
Aethionema saxatilis
Asperula gussonii
Bupleurum ranunculoides
Haberlea ferdinandi-coburgii
Jurinella moschus subsp. pinnatisecta
Leucoraoulia loganii
Mertensia alpina
Onosma nana
Origanum rotundifolium
Oxytropis williamsii
Paracaryum racemosum
Physaria saximontana
Ptilotrichum purpureum
Veronica bombycina var. bolkardaghensis
Arnebia echioides
Daphne striata
Paederota bonarota
Rosularia libanotica

anything I should add /an/?
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>>3020336
shit I've gotten so far
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>>3020340
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>>3020342
you could just have pasted them all in 1 image or copypasted into a text document and screenshotted that instead of spamming like this
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>>3020346
was too lazy, soz.
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What is this from last thread?
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yall like timelapse?
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im gunna post a few secret ones. I just got some gear and im obsessed with watching these plants move.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS2l8OhRFEU
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For this one I used a AC lightsource and the flicker ruined it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voR1Ao0d8EQ
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>>3020369
Physoplexis comosa
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>>3020348
use fireshot fag
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>>3020433
dont make me fireshot you
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>>3020405
>rheum.jpg
dafuq is that and can i eat it?
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>>3020450
it's rheum nobile.

pretty sure you can eat it but it's not in cultivation yet.

I got seeds, will be planting it this winter, pretty sure I know how to keep them alive.
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>>3020405
Thankyou. Have you grown it?
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>>3020475
I have a bunch of them and am currently waiting for an order containing a subspecies with thicker, hairier leaves.

they're going to be planted in my tufa-garden this autumn.

it's not available in cultivation, you can't grow it without specialized garden, extremely prone to being eaten by slugs.
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>>3020397
I never come into the plant general, but I just wanted to say that is beautiful. Like butterflies.
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>>3020480
Neat it's beautiful!!! I'm looking for oddities to potentially bring to market. I have a horticultural education but sadly customers typically do not. It's a bit to temperamental and doesn't seem to grow in USDA zone 9b anyhow. I do like the Darwin's slippers you posted however, those appear to have some potential for my endeavors.
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>>3020323
So I just moved out of a shared apartment with my ex after we broke up. I moved out in a hurry so I didn't take the plants with me. It was my first collection of plants, I had kept some succulents since this time last summer.

Now that I'm settled in what plants should I get, or what would you guys recommend? I'm on the east coast. I was thinking a pothos and maybe some kind of pepperomia. I got a replacement ogre's ear and a bunny cactus today. I've essentially gotten the basics down but I've only really kept succulents. I had a pothos that was doing ok but I was still getting used to monitoring the water more closely. I tried a lemon button fern when I first got the succulents and it died immediately in a few months. I'm also wondering how to make the best soil mix for these guys. I used a 60:40 perlite soil mix before and everyone seemed very happy in that. I know gritty mix is recommended but are there any easier things I could just pick up at the store to cut regular potting soil with?
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>>3020502
yeah they are absolutely beautiful when viewed like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvkxaBB6pWI

heres soem more
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>>3020504
Calceolaria uniflora is commercially available in the US, atleast the seeds appear to be, you could try shipping them to Europe as I'm sure a lot of people would be interested.

Salvia caespitosa is another gem that's not in cultivation in Europe, but appears to be in the US, even though it's originally from Europe to begin with.
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>>3020791
looks like monstera
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>>3020883
that’s definitely not a monstera, more likely a juvenile alocasia macrorrhiza or something similar
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>tfw the weather gets progressively shittier as the temperature goes up.

why live?
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>>3020917
>water succs
>it's overcast for two weeks
>they die
feels bad
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>>3020917
such is life in the north.
>>3020918
mine are still alive, im just glad most of mine survived winter on the window sill without going dormant
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>>3020918
atleast I won't have to worry about my plants overheating.

>as if it's ever been an issue.
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>>3020924
succs are loving it rn
gave em a nice feed
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>>3020933
just waiting for more sun and ill give mine some feed. guess i should repot the ones i havent yet in the meantime
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Beautiful fleurs uwu
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>>3020949
looks like something a drag queen would use to cover up their cock
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>>3020853
what's this nice looking thing?
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Vfts growing fast
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>>3021011
>not even in the middle of the pot
cp growers are just the worst
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>>3021016
I just broke the seed pods and that's were they were born.
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>>3020975
some trichodiadema
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What should i add to my collection?
i really hope the image isn't rotated wrong
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>>3021081
ok i give up
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>>3021081
>>3021084
bro... open it with image preview and click the rotate button and then close the image... or open in paint and rotate it then save. it's not that hard.
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>>3021081
Aloe
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>>3021086
Is it because i only rotated it in my images?
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>>3021087
I really want one of these bad boys
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>>3021088
i dont know. it just gets fucked cus windows is a piece of shit.
my photos shows correctly on my phone and when i upload to discord, but when i save them over to my PC they're the wrong way.
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>>3021093
>discord
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>>3021094
i only use it to chat with people i play games with if you're implying what i think you're implying.

>>3021092
bought this just to get that one when i saw it at IKEA last month when i went there
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>>3021092
>>3021106
your post pushed me to repot it right now. holy fug the difference in roots. poor white aloe waas being strangled by this piece of fabric
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>>3021108
Damn, she's a beaut. Too bad i live in the middle of nowhere, and no sellers near me sell them.
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>>3021118
internet exists
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>>3021119
Yea, but i live in a country with less than 6 mil people, so there are no sellers online either.
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>>3021120
outside of the EU?
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>>3021124
yea :(
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>>3021125
I've bought plants from weird third world countries before, where are you from? I'm sure i could find some sellers
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>>3021128
I'm currently trying to get into some groups that could sell. But thanks
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Is it upsetting for you to see plants being grown in obviously poor conditions? Do you ever feel bad taking cuttings to propagate and letting the old plant die?

If you feel empathy towards plants, is it different compared to what you feel towards animals and other humans?
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>>3021132
On one hand, they're just plants, and they're incapable of expressing suffering the way animals do. On the other hand, no I'll never feel bad about taking cuttings from a plant someone obviously doesn't care about. I wouldn't go out of my way to do it, because trespassing is illegal, but if I have the opportunity I wouldn't let it pass.
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>>3021118
sure is a beaut like name says.
>Too bad i live in the middle of nowhere, and no sellers near me sell them.
damn that sucks.
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>some anon reminds me about araflora
>look through their selection
>they have half my wishlist
>2/3rds of the plants I want are out of stock
>1/3rd is $50+ dolla
help
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>>3021136
I had the exact same experience. I doubt I'd ever buy anything from there though, don't want to risk shipping something that's so expensive from outside of my country though.
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>>3021136
they got some nice species orchids tho.

atleast half of the plants you want are actually grown in cultivation.
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>>3021142
I've ordered from the other end of europe before and never had any issues, but if you do it's usually pretty easy to get your money back. Not gonna order either though, because I'd be tempted to get more plants to compensate for the high shipping cost and end up spending hundreds of yuros
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>>3021145
I learned not to put the unavailable stuff on the list. It hurts too much.
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>>3021142
bought plants from them before, seller knows what he's doing in terms of packaging.
>>3021148
I wouldn't do it if I didn't know how to get a lot of plants that are typically unavailable.
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>>3021154
and how do you do it?
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just to confirm, these are the same kind?
[spoiler]and i know it's looking sad but it's recovering from winter and the new growth looks good.[/spoiler]
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>>3021161
not exactly the same but they're mutts of the same genera
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>>3021158
connections, seeds of wild plants are often collected in bulk and grown for study, if you're friends with the people that do it you can often get them for free when they're done, just offer to compensate the cost of sending it to you.

there's also small czech websites of people who go into the mountains to collect seeds for you for dirt cheap but many of them are sketchy as fuck.
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>>3021165
post sketchy czech websites please
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>>3021146
I really need to spend less on plants too, I try and put myself on a ban but I always see something I want ...
>>3021154
I always seem to have bad luck with buying plants online, I only ever buy stuff if I'm sure it will survive in the post now.
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Should i buy?
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>>3021174
they constantly get closed, you just have to get lucky while searching on google to find them.

pretty sure there's plenty of broke third worlders that have shitty blogs to brownbox you weird plants too.
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>>3021178
yes. where you buying from? i want some fuzzybois again cus all mine died during winter.
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>>3021178
is that kuentz? i bought from them and it took them two weeks to ship my order and another one for it to arrive, but the plants were in excellent condition

that said they have a lot of interesting things but your list is mostly plants that are very easy to find in regular nurseries, i'd look around first

>>3021179
what do I even google?
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>>3021186
Its a french seller.
kuentz.com, i don't know how trustworthy they are though
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>>3021189
do they ship within EU or just france?
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>>3021188
It is indeed. Unless you can find an online danish store selling them, then i cant get them anywhere else.
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>>3021188
I usually find them by googling for specific species I'm after on like page 5+
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>>3021193
within eu, i bought from them and i'm in poland
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>>3021193
if they ship with eu im buying stuff lol
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>>3021210
cool thx. bookmarked them for future purchases.
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>>3021189
help I don't know french
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>>3021216
Google translate works like a charm
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>>3021216
use google translate.

once you get to the shipment part realize the french use weird ass words instead of country names, took me a while to figure out Pays Bas meant the Netherlands.
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>>3021220
my dear old pa is fluent in conversational french (and likes succulents) so I might show him and see if he can figure it out. quicker than translating everything.
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>>3021220
>Pays Bas
it means 'low country', which is just what 'nederlands' means.
the french don't like to adopt words from other languages, so they make their own in almost all cases.
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etoliation
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>>3020342
ordered more plants lol

will list website if/when they arrive healthy.
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Going outside of the discord for some extra advice. I've got some cactus soil, but I want to expand it for planting. What filler does everyone use for 1-1 mixing?
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fucking normies bought just the fucking trays so i cant buy matching pot/trays.
they got this very light white almost powder on them which looks great with the green succulents.
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>>3021345
whatever cheap fine gravel the local construction market has to offer.

currently using a fine basalt that you're meant to sweep between your tiles, was 2,50 for 20 kilos.
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>>3021345
there's a plant discord? can I join pls
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How do i stop these calatheas dying until my humidifier turns up (its coming from china so its gonna take like 3 weeks)

Left is a prayer plant, bought it today, re-potted it (which i later found out is a bad move for a calathea) and have done the wet stone trick to keep it humidified.

Right hand plant is an eternal flame that ive had for about a month, as you can see its not in the best of shape, mostly because i had been watering it with tap water. Have started boiling water today instead and done the pebble trick.

I also mist both of them.

If i boil my water will it be usable to water them with? I don't have any chloramine in there but boiling it doesnt get rid of the flouride i hear.

Do i HAVE to get a filter to be able to water my calatheas? I hear that resting your water for 24 hours will do the same thing. How much truth is there to that?


Help is appreciated, these are beautiful plants but jeez are they real fuckers to look after.
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>>3021381
Start collecting rainwater or something instead.
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>>3021350
How fine is that in inches/mesh?
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>>3020900
Looking at both, I think it looks more like a colocasia seedling to me. But they look virtually the same, so I'll keep an eye on it as it matures and maybe get a more positive ID later on.
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>>3021381
You use distilled water or rainwater, two plants don't need much. You can't lower TDS through boiling or letting it sit

also there's absolutely nothing wrong with repotting plants right after buying them
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>>3021362
it's mostly butthurt amateurs that keep succulents.
>>3021521
2mm
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A lot of these little fuckers come out of my plants when i water them, how can i get rid of them?

I put some apple cider vinegar traps around my plants but they havent killed a single one of them yet.
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>>3021345
Is it a plant discord? If so can i get an invite?
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>>3021759
did you put something sweet in the traps aswell (like honey) and a drop of dish soap to remove the surface tension?
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>>3021772
Directions only said apple cider vinegar and soap, but i'll add some honey too.
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>>3021780
syrup also works. use whichever is more runny that you have.
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I think I found the reason why my tomato plants have been getting yellow dots on them. ID on this bastard pls and what's the best treatment?
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>>3021807
forgot the pic
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>>3021807
>>3021809
I bought some pesticide with acetamiprid and oil in it, hopefully my plants will be left alone after this.
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>>3021759
fungus gnats

>repot your plants into fresh soil, you can spray the roots with peroxide as well to get rid of the larvae
>stop overwatering
>use a thick layer of top dressing
>use yellow sticky paper or buy some butterworts/sundews to finish off the adults
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>>3021875
>acetamiprid and oil
not sure why you'd need both. the systemic should be adequate on it's own.
on the topic, acetamiprid is the only systemic still available in my country. all of the best ones have been banned.
i understand the reasons, but some pests are impossible to eradicate without a systemic pesticide, and gardeners will soon be left with no option but to destroy the plant.
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>>3021381
>resting your water for 24 hours
This will help with the chlorine as it diffuses into the atmosphere. It doesn't happen as fast as you want it to. Agitating and/or aerating will speed the process. Filtering will accomplish more and quicker. A simple activated carbon filter is hard to beat in a "best bang for the buck" contest.
Careful with the tray/rocks/water combo below the pot. Make sure the pot does not touch the water whatsoever. Doing away with that is prolly a best.
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What is damaging the leaves of my menyanthes trifoliata?
I keep it in an indoor aquarium with normal soil and water.
It gets light directly from the window.
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>>3021879
I read the label again and there was no oil in it - I must have confused it with the other one I looked at in the store. Apparently acetamiprid will be banned from sales here in September. Guess I'll have to stock up then.
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>>3021883
>Guess I'll have to stock up then.
I did some gardening for an old lady a few years back and she had a big can of DDT in the shed 'just in case'.
It's was banned over 30 years ago lmao.
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>>3021362
>>3021769

We should have a plant general in discord.

:(
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>>3021906
No
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>>3021908
why not?
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>>3021931
Anonimity is the only thing that keeps 4chan users' nauseating attitudes and behaviours in check
Every general that's been associated to a discord fell in quality, from /vg/ to the reptile and aquarium generals on /an/
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>>3021935
/plant/ had an associated discord for months with no adverse effects on quality until the antidiscordfags pouring in from other generals or even boards decided to ruin it on purpose
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>>3021960
the quality of /plant/ threads was shit for months, very little OC and virtually no discussion.

if you think it had no adverse effects on quality consider that it might just be because you are the problem.
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smol fern
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>>3021972
>ferns growing between rocks
hhhhhhhhnnnnngggggggggggg
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>>3021879
There is still the best option left: Cultivating strong plants that at least in permaculture won't be harmed much by some bugs. A lot of todays vegetables are pampered weaklings.
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>>3021977
doesn't help, lots of plants just aren't adapted to dealing with competition no matter how vigorous they might be.

also lots of invasive plants are allelopathic and release chemicals into the environment other plants likely aren't adapted to, or they've got several methods of reproduction (root suckers, seeds, etc) that the other plants do not have.

pesticides are the least of your worries to protect biodiversity, the main issue is that people are completely and utterly clueless about nature, the campaigns to raise awareness for the issue only have the opposite effect, now we've got an entire generation of deluded emos that think they've got to help the honeybee while tossing their 5 cats outdoors and planting invasive trees everywhere.
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>>3021935
Can't argue with that
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What should I do with these air roots on my phalinopsis
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>>3020975
what this guy said>>3021075
trichodiadema bulbosum
had it stuck in a crappy apartment for the first couple years
new place has a south facing emergency fire exit
looking forward to when it flowers
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>>3022024
didn't you post a picture of it a bloom in a previous thread? pls post again
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>>3022006
mist them?
they look good. dont' chop them off
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>>3022045
yeah last year’s bloom
here you go
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>>3022048
i has just moved there in july of last year and put them outside to my surprise they actually bloomed
this year’s bloom is going to be great
that hadn’t bloomed once in the other apt
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Sorry for being plant newfag but I live in a basement apartment and are there plants that require little sunlight. There’s lots of ambient light in the apartment suprisingly, but only direct light for about 5 hours a day, but that moves around.
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>>3020323
plants are life and love
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>>3022064
you can do a lot with 5 hours of sun god ra. You can have tradescantia running around for example.
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>>3021977
all the plants that I grow have to deal with competition. For instance, I've been growing pachysandra in hopes that it can outcompete weeds in the long term (maybe with a little of help). Experiment in progress.
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>>3022064
sansevieria, spiderplant, aspidistra, ferns, peperomia, philodendron
orchids too
many more besides
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>>3021988
>pesticides are the least of your worries to protect biodiversity
At a larger scale it's actually my main worry together with herbicides, overblown fertilizing and monocultures.
Transforming huge areas that used to be valuable habitats into these deserts and fragmenting habitats that are left has to be way more to blame than whatever people do in their neighbourhoods.
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Very bad pic but you get the idea
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anybody live around prescott az?
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>>3022064
zamioculcas

>>3022048
nice. would prob get some cacti if it wasnt for my cat trying to walk across the window all the time.
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>>3022102
over-fertilization and monocultures are the result of farmers not being able to use pesticides.

they inject liquid shit into the soil now so the grass chokes out everything.
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was in local swamp, saw lots of moss and not much else.
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>>3021960
It was literally just Frucht poisoning the fuck out of the well.
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literally knee deep in sphagnum.

was hoping I'd atleast find some fucking droseras, found disappointment instead.
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also willow pollen everywhere.
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ok that was all kthxbye
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>>3022147
>cat
those fuckers can make indoor gardening a nightmare but good company
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>>3022186
Have you considered getting the superior gardening companion instead?
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>>3022189
?
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>>3022203
Earthworms.
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>>3022255
thanks
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>>3022245
i’ll call him frank
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What is the deal with gardenia? Is it really that difficult to grow?
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>>3022152
I don't get how using pesticides (right) would do something against those issues.

As far as I know over-fertilization is used to get rid of the huge amounts of animal shit weird feeding for more productivity produces or to try to cover the effects of degrading soil due to dying microorganisms due to artificial fertilizers. Those dead soils also hold less water so that increases the issue.

Monocultures are often only possible due to pest control and are mainly used to make harvesting cheaper.

Nice pictures by the way.

>>3022157
Don't be too disappointed if you're knee deep in sphagnum. Just wait a few centuries until the moss drowned those trees.
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>>3022468
Over fertilization leads to it getting in rivers and doing shit like causing algae blooms in the Mississippi and local waterways, but the Mississippi is the infamous one.
https://www.sjrwmd.com/education/algae/
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I totally read both of your posts wrong, just ignore me, I'm going to go hide in the dumbass corner.
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>Casually mention that I just bought a $20 bag of potting mix for some new indoor babes.
>Sister has a meltdown over 'how expensive it is' and "Umm you do know that all plants in nature just grow in whatever they're in, right?"
>She can't even grow passionfruit vines in her backyard.

Sweet shit, why are normies like this?
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Aphids are fucking my peppermint raw so ive snipped off a plan B in case the soapy water solution doesnt work.
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>>3022530
Ask her how much she's spent on Sephora just this past month and it'll shut her up good. Replace Sephora with whatever makeup brand she uses, but odds are good on Sephora.
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>>3022534
Sephora is the make up store itself and their own brand isn't even that popular compared to the other big name brands they carry.
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>>3022534
Nah, she doesn't spend a lot of money on anything. She's just one of those people who doesn't 'get' hobbies or understand why anybody puts effort into doing things properly, so she thinks they must be idiots who are getting scammed into buying 'good' stuff.

When you've already invested ~$400 into something, an extra $20 to maintain it is virtually nothing.
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>>3022563
>She has no hobbies
What does she do all day then? Just passively watch tv and eat halo ice cream?
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>>3022564
Haha that sounds like me but without the bf lol
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>>3022564
She works, watching Netflix and complains about her life. Any time I bring up something positive in my life she does the whole "Well I wouldn't know! Just wait until YOU'RE a mother!" as though it's her kids' faults that she's boring.

Sorry /plant/ I didn't mean to start a group therapy session.

I'm gonna try stealing mystery philodendron cuttings from a spring on the way home today. That's relevant.
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>>3022572
Being a mother doesn't mean you need to give up all that's good in your life. Unless you're really really poor like my mom was. I figure if you can afford a Netflix subscription and consistent Internet, you aren't so poorly off that you can't have a hobby, though.
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>>3020323
I got a pepperomia ruby cascade. It's the first pepperomia I've ever had. How much light does it need, and since the plant info it came with says it's a succulent I'm assuming it's low water even though it looks like a vine?

Pic related it looks like this.
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The sunflower I was babying got cut in half while it was outside on the porch :(
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>>3022468
the tactics used to prevent/get rid of pests are far more destructive than pesticides.

for example, commercial gardeners aren't allowed to use glyphosate anymore, instead they use massive quantities of boiling water now.

you think pouring thousands of litres of hot water with varying pH levels isn't bad for the environment?
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I think slugs have been having a grand old time eating my vegetables.
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>>3021967
so you're saying that all the good posters went to discord? sounds like a good place to be
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>>3021345
perlite, coco, pumice, tezontle, ect
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>>3022698
I think even fire is less of an issue than neurotoxins since while it kills the insects that couldn't flee at the time of use it won't be a daily source of poison that lets them get too retarded to feed their own kids. It also won't affect other animals or insects that hunt the directly affected insects.

>>3022572
>>3022573
The nice thing is, planting doesn't have to cost any money if you are fine with wildflowers and have a little time to collect/trade seeds, earth and maybe fertilizer yourself. 'Pots' in all sizes are avaiable for free if you ask some restaurants for empty food containers.
Also it's a great activity to do with kids, expecially for little ones.
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WHY DO PEOPLE HATE PLANTS QND ANIMALS AHHHHH crying_wojak.jpg
At the uni i'm in there was this beautiful green hedge on wich there grew all kinds of flowering herbs intertwined. Everyday i would stroll by and look at the multitude of moths, butterflies, spiders, and other insects that HAPPILY lived there, doing no harm to ANYONE but their prey. That fascinating little ecosystem that was worth much more than the endless, souless halls of stone that I go through everyday. I would sit and watch the many birds that roam the garden, observing how perfectly God has made all of them, from the tiny rock doves to the occasional falcon and vulture that pass by. But these people don't give a shit. They cannot care, even if they wanted to. They are INCAPABLE of seeing such things. There's even a cute owl that made its burrow somewhere along a path and I fear that these monsters will find a way to completely destroy its life, even though it does no harm to anyone, it flies away when someone gets near.
Why do people only know how to kill and destroy when it comes to nature nature is so beautiful and pure ahhhhhhhhhuuhhuyyyyyyyyyyt
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>>3022585
why
what did you do
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>>3020917
2 degrees in May...

It's been 28+ for weeks now
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>>3022911
So, why was the garden destroyed?
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>>3020323
Hello. Anyone around the Raleigh area?
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>>3022927
It wasnt destroyed completely, they just removed all the flowering herbs (fucking with all the fauna that lived there in the process) and left the trimmed hedge there. The worse thing is that, since the gardeners dont even do their job properly, those herbs will probably grow back, which will in turn attract insects again, the whole thing will thrive again, only to be destroyed once more. The whole garden is trapped in a kalpic cycle of death, rebirth and death, etc. But as is we're forced to watch its rise and fall every so often. Why can't they just leave it be? Their whole reasoning for having it trimmed is that it is aesthetically more pleasing than a "messy" one, but have they even seen both? You could stare at hours for the thing on its prime, with tons of bugs and herbs and little flowers. After it is trimmed is just the same old bland hedge that you find in every corner, green leaves and branches.
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>>3021081
Qt plants
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What is this weird growth sprouting from my Monstera?
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>>3022958
He's just happy to see you
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>>3022958
That's a root.
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>>3022964
Oh thanks!
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>>3022824
only if you consider boring succulents and amateur garden advise you can find on google easily good.
>>3022901
problem with using fire to get rid of weeds is that it takes forever to clean large surfaces.

boiling water works for large surfaces but has lasting effects on the environment.

I have a license to use glyphosate though, but it's getting harder to get the right products, a lot of the newer products are super expensive and don't work as well, I can still get the old products though.
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>>3022995
glyphosate is still readily available in the UK for home garden use, and higher concentrates for licensed professionals.
but my city council has recently decided to stop using any chemicals in the city's park and garden maintenance.
weeds along the pavements and kerb side are a problem on every street here, and in the past the council would spray them once a year, but now i don't know how they are going to deal with them.
in a perfect world, each resident would keep the area outside their own property clean, but most people don't bother.
maybe soon my spraying license will be obsolete because there will be nothing left to use!
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>>3023040
It's part of the honeybee/pollution problem. They want to say individuals should own up to their own responsibility, but a single individual using pesticides isn't as big a deal as say, huge farms dumping excess fertilizer into our waterways and ruining the air with massive amounts of pesticide. There's basically nothing to be done about it, either, we're decades past the point where protesting or government campaigns would stop it.
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>>3023044
the end result is just going to be streets full of giant weeds. the council doesn't have the manpower to physically remove them.
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>>3023052
Just pull up the weeds and serve them to the homeless in salads.
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>>3023040
it's still available here, it's just a weaker version and they tax you to hell and back for it, nothing like the shit we used to have in the early 2000s.

I just import it from other EU countries where it's still legal.
>>3023044
herbicides are used locally even in large-scale agriculture, the lands aren't planted with resistent GMOs and sprayed with glyphosate like you see in save the bee commercials.

if anything there was way more biodiversity near farm-land back when they were able to use it, it's just grass growing on the edges now due to over-fertilization.
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>>3023064
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5044953/
? ? ? ? ? ?
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>>3023069
I know the studies, it's however not what I have observed personally.

also that study is about basedbean production.
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>>3023075
>My personal anecdotes mean more than properly funded research articles
Yeah, okay.
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>>3023075
The article isn't even entirely about basedbeans. Do you actually read things or just skim for whatever confirms your opinions?
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>>3023069
this is mainly talking about the US. it says nothing of Europe where the culture and regulations are very different, and most countries here don't grow or import GMO food
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>>3023077
I have 20+ years experience dealing with agriculture, my personal experience means a lot more than the thesis of a bunch of undergrads.

feel free to argue once you actually have practical experience within the field yourself.
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>>3023080
It's almost like farming in the US is far more relevant than farming in the EU because of the sheer size of the country that is devoted to farmland.
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>>3023083
you barely produce more than the netherlands even though you've got 300 times more land available.
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could hydro be used to grow any plants
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>>3022942
File a claim with the board then
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>>3023089
What's hydro
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>>3023092
Its not uni property, its part of a large complex that houses us. Probably wouldnt listen too because its run by people who only care about business and money, from what I've seen of them.
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>>3023089
most likely almost all of them, desert cacti would be rather rot prone, but some people do manage it
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>>3023118
You just need to convince them to cut it in late autumn or winter. Collect signatures and tell them that a lot of people think the flowers are pretty and maybe dogs tend to shit there without the weeds.
It's always worth a try.

In the last year our city transformed a lot of small green areas into chaotic flowering weed spots to reduce costs for mowing and watering after some people adviced this to save money AND get to advertise caring about the suddenly media relevant insects.
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started digging my new pond.
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couldn't be fucked waiting until the autumn, I don't give a fuck about the plants that grow in this corner of the garden anyway.
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>>3023197
but your 500 million species ...
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>>3023183
You're right, I really should do that. Weaponise my autism and actually do some good. Thanks anon.
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>>3023203
it's the least diverse part of my yard.

gonna have so many aquatic plants tho.
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>>3022563
>"Umm you do know that all plants in nature just grow in whatever they're in, right?"
"yeah they grow in their NATIVE soil where they're from"
and ask her if the fucking ground outside her is the native soil of whatever you're growing
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>>3023306
desu 20 bucks for potting soil is pretty expensive.

id rather buy more plants.

>found the perfect plant species for my pond
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>>3023195
Good luck with your project, that pond really needed a good expansion
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>>3023315
depends how big the bag is and what kind i guess, but yeah, you can get enough to cover your whole yard pretty good with regular soil for that amount here
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>>3023324
I need more newts.

will be lining the sides of the pond with broken tiles in a naturalistic fashion to hide the pond liner, and use a waterfall filter without actually making a waterfall as the sound annoys me, just need the water to be flowing from one side to the other to create that steam effect in the plant growth.
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spider plant pups have the best roots
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>>3023335
like this, but shaped like a naturally formed stream.
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>>3023334
akadama is friggin expensive
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>>3023335
I heard newts favor myosotis scorpioides for egg laying; they fold the plant's leaves around them to create a protective layer.
You might tuck some myosotis between the broken tiles to encourage spawning.
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>>3023344
i know
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the hell is going on with my nussbaum?
they kinda look like burn marks but i dont understand how they're almost like something hot has been pressed against the areas, which doesnt explain the inner spots... they havent had water drops and there's nothing to reflect sunshine to cause it... root issues maybe?
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My alba wisteria bloomed for the first time this spring, super fragrant
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>>3021972
Here's my small maidenhair fern
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First vft flower this year
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Here are some of the stupid idiot babies that I'm trying to keep alive.

Mystery spathyphillum, monstera deliciosa tauerii, calathea makoyana, ficus benjamina and ficus elastica.

>pls advise
They're all doing pretty well so far, but they're in shitty, hydrophobic $2 mix right now. I want to repot them with the good $20 mix, but I don't know how long to wait. It is right at the end of autumn now and around 18-20° indoors.
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>>3023768
When you repot I'd downsize the pots for those. That monstera would be comfortable in a 6 inch pot or smaller.
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>>3020323
Does anyone have any experiance with tumeric? I planted a root and it grew for a few months and then died. Today i dug it up and found the original root and this weird bulb with roots. My question is: can i regrow my plant from this bulb?
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>>3020558
looks good
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>>3023306
This. 20 bucks is damn cheap considering how much soil shipping from wherever would cost.
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>>3023779
Oh true! I will, then. These are the smallest plants I've ever started with, so I'm really worried about messing them up.

Went into panic mode when the three ficus benjamina dropped 1/3 of their leaves right after arriving, but they have three times as many new stems now so hopefully they stay good.

>>3023863
I think it's pretty good. That's Australian dollarydoos too, so it's closer to $13USD.

It's like $5 for a bag of shit wood chip 'potting mix' here, so $20 for a good peat/sphagnum/perlite/soil mix seems way better than mixing my own.
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My parents told me i couldn't get anymore plants, because i've spent too much on the ones i have.

So could i just get some cuttings from my local forest, and use my Aloe Vera for rooting hormones?
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>>3023409
looks rotten. it shouldn't be that colour.
bit of advice anon. instead of asking us if it has 'root issues', why not take the plant out of it's pot and have a look for yourself?
how are we supposed to know what they look like?
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>>3023768
repot in the spring. if you do it now, they won't grow much over the winter, and root rot will be more likely.
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>>3023882
>My parents told me i couldn't get anymore plants, because i've spent too much on the ones i have.
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
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>>3023892
What if i'm a 30 year old living in my moms basement?
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>>3023612
Oh god I wish it was me
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>>3023894
ur not alone. I have been warned by my parents for this obsession.
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>>3023890
definitely not rot. spots are hard and dry and not even close to the black soft rot (had it happen before).
seems more like sunburn but it's been semi-cloudy for over a week so it doesnt really make sense as they've had months on them to get acclimatized to the slowly increasing sunlight
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Bumping with faggot flowers
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>>3020323
I saw this blue plant recently in my area, is it sort of decorative?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9GYG86VgzQ
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>>3023899
I don't understand. I just want some more life in my room.
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>>3023908
maybe because you should be focusing on other things when you're living in your parents' basement at 30
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>>3023910
i am 350 years living in my parents cesspool
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>>3023910
It was a joke. I'm over 18 but my i still live with my parents.
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>>3023890
It doesn't look rotten at all and the color is exactly the color this plant should have

>>3023409
It looks exactly like sunburn, all the patches seem to be oriented in the same direction. Are they? Did you move the plant or rotate it? Has it suddenly become sunny after a long period of shit weather? If you answered no to all of the above spray it with some antifungal, the patches on the stem look slightly suspect.
>>3023768
>>3023891
Overwintering in a shitty mix that's impossible to wet without soaking is much more harmful than repotting late in the year. They're all indoor low light plants anyway so winter isn't much of a change in growth for them. Do the pots have drainage though? It seems like they don't. If they don't repot into something that does or drill holes in the pots.
>>3023882
Assuming you're not underage but an anon with debilitating autism requiring around the clock care:
What plants are you gonna be taking? most of the stuff you can pick up in a temperate forest will not do that great indoors, if that's where you want to keep them. Also aloe vera rooting hormone sounds like a terrible idea, will just get things moldy. You can root things without hormones if your parents don't let you get any either. Also depending on where you live and what plants you will be taking it might be illegal to do, look into it.
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>>3023920
>Assuming you're not underage but an anon with debilitating autism requiring around the clock care
you are correct
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>>3021973
it is a mountainous fern
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>>3023920
spots are all on the same side (that was towards window). but some is going around the stem at the bottom.
i havent rotated it in a while.
it's less sunny now since last week but it could have happened before that when it was more sunny.
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>>3023901
Could it be oedema/odema/edema from sucking up too much water? Crassulas are prone to it but I haven't seen it look quite like that.
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>>3021973
>>3023924
Ferns with flowers? Whatever next?
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>>3023920
Sedum reflexum grow in my area. I was thinking of getting a cutting from one of them. I just wanted to know if i needed to get rooting hormones, not how to wipe my ass.
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>>3023940
no need, just let it callous for a day or two and plant it
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>>3023933
dont think so since i havent been watering it much, the leaves were even a bit wrinkly due to it.
this spot at the bottom of the stem is on the opposite side of all the others and looks different.
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>>3023940
you don't need hormones for anything remotely succulent

also i see it is debilitating autism after all
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>>3023942
up top its sunburn for sure, but this looks like the stem is just getting old and starting to cork, nothing wrong with it
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>>3023951
ah that's a relief to hear. thanks.

now i just gotta decide what to do with each part when repotting. thinking about snipping off one of the branches with denser growth, but not sure if i should repot all 3 in the same or split them up and if i should prune those any
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>>3023957
Honestly i'd chop them all up and plant the cuttings as densely as possible. Matter of taste though.
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>>3023940
>wanted to know if he needs hormones
>asks:
>So could i just get some cuttings from my local forest, and use my Aloe Vera for rooting hormones?
>gets angry when he gets an answer to both parts of the question

i see why you have to live with your parents
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>>3023962
was thinking of doing something like that after seeing pics of other nussbaums in large clusters, but i've never done any major pruning before.
where do i cut it apart from the 1-2cm from the top crown and the little branch on one of the three? halfway down the stem so each part gets a few leaves?
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so I started a compost bin a few weeks ago.

I'm a bit confused. do I just keep topping it up once it's full or do I let it full then just leave it to break down without topping it up?

if I get a second bin how can I utilise both bins correctly?
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>>3023998
just fill it right up.
the ideal amount of bins/piles (whatever) imo is three.
one that you are dumping your waste on
one that is left composting
and one that is composted, ready to use in the garden.
turning will speed up the process. this is why i'm not too keen on bins, but prefer piles.
the tumblers are pretty good, but are limited in size.
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>>3024000
>turning will speed up the process. this is why i'm not too keen on bins, but prefer piles.

how do piles work in comparison?
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>>3023904
eryngiums are popular as cut flowers because they don't shrivel up without water.
>>3023940
they root so easily that they're literally invasive, every little piece that falls off while you're trying to pull them will sprout again.
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it's just easier to turn an open pile than it is to turn the contents of a compost bin.
if your garden is big enough, compost piles are really the only practical option.
you can make it nice and tidy by constructing some bays, like in pic related.
if your garden is small enough that a bin is enough, i would recommend a tumbler instead.
i should point out that turning isn't neccesary to get compost, but it can change a process of two to three years into one of 9 months.
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>>3024032
forgot pic.
also, meant for >>3024007
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Anyone that can tell me what mushroom im looking at here?
The color is goldish
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>>3024064
No.
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>>3024080
Cope.
Really though, it's impossible to identify a mushroom from just a picture. Location, where it was found, and spore print would be needed, and even then the guess could still be wrong.
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>>3024064
Mushrooms are animals, not plants.
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>>3024131
They're neither.
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>>3024133
You're neither.
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>>3024102
>it's impossible to identify a mushroom from just a picture.

it's not, that species is relatively easy to recognize, you still shouldn't help because he was too lazy to list the location and describe the area.

removed my old pond today, it was filled with frogs, tossed them in the canal nearby, hope they're ok.

also found two salamanders, they're in my sphagnum tub now.
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>>3024175
Well i was unaware what criteria you would need to identify it..

Located on an area of the plain covered by the sun all day in a rural place in Denmark
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>>3020323
Does anyone knows what is this? It smells like Peptobismol/Root beer.
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I wish Aquilegia bloomed longer
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>>3024378
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How to grow a plant from cuttings without it just drying out and dying? Every time I try it fails even though I do what online guides tell me to do.
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>>3024604
Just stick it in some dirt and water it occasionally. Some plants don't really take to being propagated well that way, though, what are you trying to grow?
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>>3024605
Prunus Tomentosa/Nanking Cherry
I'm trying a Quaking Aspen right now too, let's see how that goes.
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>>3024384
wish it didn't seed itself all over the place including between the pavement.
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>>3024716
just dead head it before it seeds. simple.
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Why are Camellias such fucking aphid magnets?

I get them all off and a day later it's covered in the fuckers again.
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Muh ukigumo, one of my favorite acers
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>>3024937
Shishigashira
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>>3024941
Mikawa Yatsubusa
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>>3024944
Atrolinaire
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>>3024947
Viridis
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>>3024956
Peaches 'n Cream
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>>3024960
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>>3024961
Red Dragon
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>>3024964
whats up with the barbed wire. also nice yard.
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>>3024964
needs more ferns
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>>3024964
Kurenai Jishi
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>>3024966
The land behind my backyard is my city's water district land and they surrounded it with barbed wire fencing after 9/11 for security reasons supposedly. Its still super nice though having nothing but field and trees behind my backyard. Pic related
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>>3024969
Mayno no Sato
Ok that's all of muh maples.
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>>3024968
Nice menyanthes
Mine is looking a bit shitty these days
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It's getting near that time friends
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>>3024927
Nigga just get you a bunch of ladybugs and the problem solves itself
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Has anybody here had success with keeping a maidenhair fern alive? I just got one and heard they liked being watered every 3 days but someone also said they actually like to be watered a little bit every single day.
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how soon do you need to use a seed? my uncle gave me some seeds from a citrus tree fruit he has about a year ago.

can it still grow?
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>>3025826
try and see
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>>3025856
I opened some of the seeds. inside just crumbled

are they all fucked or should I try just planting/germinating them as is
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>>3025826
depends on the seed and how it's been kept.
some seeds can survive for centuries, and others are only viable for a year.
i don't know about citrus seeds personally, but if they are crumbled, it doesn't sound good.
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>>3025826
Why do you post qts? I'm an erogenous person.
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what's the correct way to use a seed cutting mix and when should I switch over to a regular potting soil?



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