The Plant General - Winter Flowers EditionWelcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.For most of us, it’s the middle of Winter, and while it can feel a bit grey at times there are still plenty of great plants to get excited about. From brightly-coloured Witch Hazels, fragrant Viburnum and Daphne, to the humble Hellebore. What are your favourite Winter Flowers /plant/?LINKS>Royal Horticultural Societyhttps://www.rhs.org.uk/>Dave's Gardening Tipshttps://davesgarden.com/>Cacti and Succulentshttps://cactiguide.com/https://worldofsucculents.com/>Carnivorous Plantshttps://www.carnivorousplants.co.uk/>Orchidshttp://www.orchid.org.uk/orchids_for_beginners.htm>Plants for Beneficial Insectshttps://permaculturenews.org/2014/10/04/plants-attract-beneficial-insects/>RHS Pests and Diseases Directoryhttps://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/plant-problems/all-plant-problems>Thousands of Botanical Illustrationshttp://www.plantillustrations.org/>Previous Threads>>2901701>>2887963
First for bonsai boys.
>>2907939>it's not floweringnice tho
>>2907940I love how the colours of the trunk, the soil, and the pot are all closely matched, with only the bright foliage to stand out against it.Very nice.
>>2907943I've never seen a bonsai Liquidambar.It looks quite messy, and foliage is a bit large imo. How small can you get a Liquidambar leaf to grow though?I've always wanted to see a bonsai Horse Chestnut, but it doesn't seem to respond well to the usual techniques of shrinking leaf size.
>>2907934>Winter Flowers Editionsure!Picture taken at my local conservatory.
>>2907956Last one for now, may post more later
My cyclamen is full flowering right now, may take a picture tomorrow
The talk about rainwater from last thread has me curious. Is there an efficient way to harvest rainwater from an apartment balcony?
>>2908019I go out and collect a bunch of fresh snow and after it melts I store it in recyclable bottles I've cleaned out.
>>2907953Super pretty pic anon, I love it>>2908019Just to make it clear, you do not need to collect rainwater for your plants always. I only use RO water for my orchids and carnivorous plants.Whenever you buy any plant ever you should always do preliminary work to know its light, potting medium, and watering needs. Watering needs doesn't just include watering frequency and quantity but also the total dissolved solids the plant can tolerate. Compare that with the TDS present in your water, and potentially pH. Everyone on this thread will have different total dissolved solids in their tap water based on their locality. I know mine hovers around 120 to 140 and there is a city near me that has a TDS of 8. Make sure your tap water isn't going to be too harsh on your plants. There aren't a ton of house plants that require RO water or the equivalents or even rainwater but you don't need to make the mistake more than once to fuck up a plant pretty badly. (Also there's a ton of bullshit regarding keeping a bowl of water out overnight to let the chlorine evaporate out.)
>>2908054I was thinking about using it for some of my plants with more delicate leaves (dracaena marginata, spider plant, etc). They always end up with yellowing tips that I trim every few months.
>>2908054Thank you! I took the pics in November but it's been winter here since October pretty much, so it totes counts.
>>2908060Yellowing tips of leaves is typically a sign of water stress. Are you sure you're not over watering or under watering?
>>2908019Go stick a plastic tub or something outside, anywhere when it's raining and then take it back in once its full. I'm sure no one would bother it.
Stop making me want to try bonsai
>>2908149Bonsai are great!
>>2908082If anything I suppose it could be underwatering since the soil is well-draining. The yellowing is heavily localized to the tips and new growth is healthy.I've always heard that yellow tips were due to using hard water, but that might be more bullshit.
Temped to trim it down to look like this again, but it's winter.
>>2908280But until spring this is what it looks like.
Neat watching these little guys grow
Some of my olives shrivelled up, hardened, blackened and fell off the tree. Is this due to dehydration? Or fungus? Or overwatering?
>>2908280>>2908282>>2908331Are those ficus? What tree is that?
>>2908485Which one is it
>>2908054>using an acronym without saying the whole phrase firsti really hate pseuds like you
>>2908552RO= Reverse OsmosisTDS= Total Dissolved SolidspH= power of Hydrogen or potential of HydrogenHe's not a pseud, these are common acronyms in the hobby. You should probably know them already.
>>2908557For a thread full of beginners, there will never be a reason not to simply type them out.Patience and the philosophy that Slow is Smooth are important aspects of writing.
>>2908559There's a theory in some hobbies that if you can't learn a thing on your own you don't deserve to know it.This is particularly common in saltwater aquariums, e.g., where we generally won't help newbs much because the hobby requires the ability to learn and innovate on your own. And if you can't or won't use a search engine or your local library you're never going to make it.I won't tell you how to run your threads, I don't really care. But spoonfeeding is often counterproductive because for some things there is no set formula and you need to be able to invent your own routine or at the very least take the time to learn how others have done it.
>>2908567That theory is fucking stupid, because the ability to learn something on your own is, itself, a hobby.Fuck you. The amount of information available on the first page of google is dwarfed by the amount of corporate misinformation. Read the Hexalogue itself: You can't even talk to "experts" to get the best possible cactus mix, because they're just trying to sell you shit for mass production.
>>2908581oh I agree entirely on all points.learning is itself a hobby and a prerequisite to many more complicated hobbies.and if you can't sift through the bullshit, advertising, and downright misinformation you will likely never succeed in some hobbies.such is life.but when anon tells me he grows orchids using RO and measuring TDS and pH of tapwaters I don't assume he's a pseud or talking above his audience. I simply understand he's taken the time to learn despite the obstacles n his way.
>>2908452How does the rest of the tree look? Anything on the leaves or stems?It could be a fungal infection, so remove all the bad fruit at least, and any dead leaves from the soil around the plant.Need more info to properly identify the problem though.
>>2908607It did have a fungal infection because I accidentally left the pot in the sun on a 35 degree celcius day. But that was two weeks ago and after removing all affected leaves the fungal infection appears to be gone. The rest of the leaves are healthy and none have turned bad for 4 days. The tree is now in a good poistion sun-wise and is only watered every now and again at night to avoid future fungal infections.
>>2908012And here it is
I was hoping someone here is able to tell me what my friends plant is?
>>2908624fair enough. Personally if I had extensive experience keeping Moorish Idols (the holy grail of the aquarium) I wouldn't waste a second talking to someone that didn't know what RO (an entry level prerequisite) is.you do you, but I personally wouldn't waste time educating newbs that don't even want to educate themselves.
>>2908615>two weeks ago>fungal infection appears to be goneIt's not gone yet. Are you the anon whose Olive has Peacock Spot?>>2908616Beautiful. Love Cyclamens
>>2908623Maybe Echinopsis spinibarbis
Love Hellebores I do.
I can't groove on bonsai because it seems like Chinese foot binding. It seems perverse and cruel to deform a tree like that. But I suppose any kind of non-essential pruning amounts to the same thing.
>>2908653To act upon something is to change it.To change something is to kill agency and change infinite potential into finite reality.The plant will not fight you. It cannot.You will not be seen negatively for it.You will not damage your own self by doing it.Read "the ego and its own" and get the fuck over the death of God.
>>2908456Just a ficus gensing, the cuttings are from the bigger tree.
>>2908640As do I friend, but i can never find nice ones, only those horrid white ones.
My little peyote forest is growing well >>2908552>>2908596>>2908608It's common knowledge in this hobby and if it isn't it never hurts to just type "ro water" into Google as the first result and even if you didn't want to do that you can always just ask. Unless you're dealing with cannabis growers most plant growers aren't elitist assholes thatll reply with "LOL UR NOT READY". I was typing that out semi rushed to water plants and didn't think someone would blow a gasket over not saying at the beginning somewhere "reverse osmosis water (RO water)" and common knowledge things tend to remain acronyms after a while, I mean look at DNA. Also I'm not frucht, here's a nice picture hint
>>2908778Lmao whoops never even posted it
>>2908781I wanna grow some peyote. I love the look of it, don't care for the drugs.
>>2908799Tbh the plant channel on the discord is actually really nice. It's pleasantly surprising compared to some other 4chan discords
>>2908627Yeah that was me. I have copper solution but i don’t want to use it if i dont have to
>>2908698Will the cuttings also eventually grow those thick roots?
>>2908698Would it be possible to get a thick trunck from a baby fig plant? How many years would it take?
>>2907947I got one growing off the stump in my front yard I'm going to try to get going as a clump They take like 12 years to start making those little spiky balls apparentlyAnnnd the file size is too big, here's my American hornbeam after first real winter pruning
Does anyone know what kind of tree this is? Got it out of a garbage room a few years ago.
>>2908994Some type of Schefflera. Lucky find.
>>2908905I don't think so.>>2908945From what I gather you have to cut off the branches and that overtime thickens the trunk. Something like that. Check out some experts on youtube.
>>2908945Many many years. Fastest method would be planting it in a giant pot and letting it grow outside and then cutting the trunk down to a low branch and letting that low branch become the new top and repeating this process untill you get the desired thickness
How do I save this piece of cactus. Its my last one that isn't dead yet. I tried to plant it for a week but the drain was plugged
>>2909452Theres no way to save that, the rot is too spread
>>2908653Bonsai get better and more well scheduled care than any plant you have growing in your backyard or house.When's the last time you took a houseplant out of it's pot and raked all the soil away to make sure the roots were healthy, then gave it completely new soil so it can absorb as many nutrients as possible?Pictured: wisteria. Defoliated right before the new year.
>>2908945This was from a cutting. About a year worth of growth in a big landscaping pot. It's about an inch and a half or so across.
Do your pets try to eat your plants?
>>2909960One of my cats kept trying to eat the leaves off my plants but I got her some cat grass to eat and now she leaves the other plants alone.
>>2909960just buy some cactus for them to play with
>>2908653It's just trimming in a way to trigger phenotype plasticity. The tree would grow that way if the seed landed on a hillside crag and was nibbled by deer from time to time and probably would live longer than a fast growing tree that will burn itself out and the soft heartwood gets fungus infections.
>>2909960Nah, my doggos really aren't herbivores. They do like to "hide" their treats in flower beds though, or sometimes even in the soil of pots inside, which recently fucked up some stuff I was trying to root
>>2909960My cat fucked up a cactus I had pretty bad. It was a sharp spiky one too.Also she munches on my basil sometimes but not too bad that it seriously damages the plant.Other than that she leaves my plants alone
>>2909747You've got some great looking trees!
>>2908686>The plant will not fight you. It cannotThat's where you're wrong my dude. Plants are extremely perceptive of their environment. It will try to fight back but its way of fighting is more suited towards insects and microbes. To assume that if you were to go out and damage plants that they can't perceive you as you damage them is false
>>2910296It will not fight YOU. A fight is an altercation.I never claimed you would not damage them, nor that they cannot be phrased to "perceive."Read the Ego and its Own.
>>2910296Oh my God it's a fucking plant dude go bury yourself in a pot.
>>2908795If it's not legal where you live look up L. diffusa, very similar to peyote but not psychoactive.
>>2910322It's completely legal.Just the only places I can find seeds online are sketchy drug sites.
>>2910326>sketchy drug sitesBuy some, pussywillow
What tree is this and why does it have flowers already? In based UK.
>>2910529Prunus subhirtella, a winter-flowering Cherry.
>>2909747>When's the last time you took a houseplant out of it's pot and raked all the soil away to make sure the roots were healthy, then gave it completely new soil so it can absorb as many nutrients as possible?I do it all the time. It's called repotting. Bonsai aren't special in that regard.
Guys, help! Cat somehow dropped my ficus on floor, it fell out the pot completely. I put it back in pot, and watered it but now it's limp. Perhaps roots were damaged or smth. How can I save it?
>>2910310plants can't fucking
>>2909960My dog doesn't eat them, but her tail knocks the shit out of them all the time.
Grafted Monroe avocado in ground for 3 years hoping she's going to hold fruit this year.
>>2910611Rest in Peace variegated rubber tree
>>2910529woah, gorgeous! I have a sakura but it doesn't have flowers yet. Yeah I'm a weaboo I know. I also have a regular cherry tree but it's not as exiting.
>>2910326Are you european or canadian?
>>2911034rarexoticseeds dot comuhlig-kakteen dot deseedscactus dot comI've tried all of those and they all have reliable stock (rarexoticseeds less so. I wouldn't recommend it). But in canada it *is legal to own peyote cactus you know
>>2911035>>2911034Whoops sorry for some reason I missread your prior statement about it being legal (kinda out of it today)Also I can probs just mail you some seeds for free if you would like.
>>2911035Thanks for the links.I know it's legal, I just don't know how reputable drug sites are.Same reason I don't order from sites like Alibaba and wish, I am just sketched out about the quality + security. Not worried about the legality.
>>2911040Oh yeah sites that are all about drug plants can be total shit, I would not recommend. Oh the sites I posted I would suggest uhligkakteen the most. They have the best quality cactus seeds I've come across. Alternatively I can mail you them and give you growing advice, just join the discord and we can chat there
>>2911044Thanks for the offer, but I don't have a discord.I've actually grown cacti from seeds before, seeds I harvested myself, it was a very fun experience.
>>2911049Oh neat! Were they the canadian native cacti like escobaria vivipara or one of the three opuntia? Or was it like, seed orders online? I grow tons of different cacti from seed
>>2911053It was from a mammillaria cactus I bought from a nursery that flowered and fruited!Out of 4 fruits I got 20 seedlings.
>>2911057Ayy that's awesome! Mammallaria have some cute as heck babies. Here's a pic of my Mammallaria longimamma newborn. That's pretty solid amounts of seedlings too, usually people have pretty medium to back luck on their first go at growing cacti
>>2910535I forgot I was in a plant general and not a random thread with people who can't keep plants aliveDid I post my Olive yet?
>>2911063Thanks! I'm not entirely sure on the exact species of mine as it was mislabeled when I bought it.It looks like a spinosissima, but it's a bit too fuzzy, there's too many that look like that
>>2911068I'd like to see it with leaves on. It looks very nice.
>>2911020Prunus subhirtella and it's varieties are a really nice winter-flowering tree, but they are nowhere near as full of flowers as the spring-flowering cherries, and they are less interesting when in leaf imo. That said, the flowering period tends to be a lot longer for the winter-flowering ones, as opposed to the brief, but abundant blossoms we get in the Spring.Definitely a good tree to grow if you have the space, and want something to brighten up the Winter.
>>2911068I like the lichens particularly.Did you defoliate it? I've never seen an Olive drop it's leaves and come back.
>>2911307>>2911099I didn't defoliate it.It came to my place early 2018 and was in a sandy soil. I got it into bonsai soil as best as I could without disturbing the roots and it's either that or the sun from last summer that made it stress a little bit. Either way, it didn't grow a ton of leaves last year. It's still plugging along and has new growth on it at the moment but I plan on setting up an area with a shade cloth for next summer.The olives should like it, my hornbeam should too. It got sunburned a bit last year. Plus I should finally be able to grow some japanese maples. I have a nursery nearby that sells rooted cuttings for like $5 a pop, and they're these nice long whips by the time you get them.Only problem is, every time I've tried to grow them they get roasted by about august. So we'll see.
>>2911422I thought I grabbed these a little earlier last year, but I took some pictures when I first got the tree around May.
>>2911422Hope it bounces back anon.Japanese Maples really hate drying out.I once had a really nice one in a pot, about 4 feet high and wide.On year, we had a really hot summer, and despite watering it in the morning, it was dead when I came home from work. The leaves were just burned to a crisp.Keep them out of strong midday sun, especially if they are little whips.
>>2911428Wow that sucks.Especially if you were growing it to sell.So many years of effort killed by one strong summer day..
Do any of you own a myrmecodia? I got one like 8 months ago and, while its not dying, its not thriving either, its pretty much surviving.Theres so little info about their care I dont know what could I be doing wrong.I have it under 75W growlights with some of my neps and fertilize it (universal fertilizer) once every monthIs there any detailed care guide somewhere?
>>2911628I forgot to say, the soil Im using is about 50% perlite and 50% sphagnum
>>2911422Weird, olives dont really care about REALLY strong sun.Source am spaniard, we've lots of olive trees here and summer is dry and hot as hell
>>2911633What are you calling hot? I live in an area with relatively high humidity most of the time, and Summers can get above 100 degrees Fahrenheit pretty easily
>>2911661>>2911633Also it may just be that I disturb the roots a little bit when I was trying to pot it into the bonsai soil, so it may have just been recovering from that. Not too sure.
>>2911661Im talking about 45ºC
>>2911633Many plants, even very subtropical ones of which you wouldn't expect it, can be super sensitive to UV if they've never seen it before, or not for a longer period. For example peppers. Judging from where they come from, they should be able to handle UV indices of 12 and more with ease.But if I plant my pepper starts outside in the weak German late March sun (UVI 4 at best) they get sunburn all over the place if I don't carefully harden them first
>>2911628 pls respond
>>2912109fill it with ants
>>2911425Horrible wiring job imho.I assume the previous owner did that, if you have little experience yourself, I can really recommend this (free) lesson: https://www.craftsy.com/gardening/classes/bonsai-wiring-essentials/35341
Does anyone here grow their own spices?I'm planning to plant some oregano and chives tomorrow in a pot. I've had a couple of major fails last year, my chives tend to die a month or two after hatching and the oregano always looks etiolated unless it survives until spring when I can put the pot outside, and proceed to forget to water it, which tends to lead to their demise.I want some fresh fucking greens all year around, but it honestly feels like the whole world is conspiring against meDivulge your secrets, /plant/
>>2912184My mom gave me a pot of chives 2 years ago. I put it in a bigger pot with a bit of fresh soil, and give it some water during hot days, fertilizer when I remember it (~2 times a month). During winter it died back completely, temps dropped to -15C/5F, and it grew back next spring and sprouted a ton of flowers that spread seed to nearby pots even, it's been shooting up all around.My other herbs failed catastrophically during the heat wave though. Even my tough thyme died.
>>2912184I grow thyme, rosemary and pepperming.Thyme and rosemary are the easiest shits to grow ever, just give them as much full sun as humanly possible and just water like once every month in winter.Pepperming keep in bright shade and moist soil.Ezpz
>>2912184Be careful with chives. I have wild chives where I live and they take over garden space really quickly and are a pain to remove.
Posting again about my first indoor grow. Several strains of Adeniums. A few Thai Arabicum hybrids, one pot of supposedly exotic colored Obesums, what I believe are some miniature Obesums, a few Somalense, and three "Dorset Horn" hybrids which already display their eponymous curly leaves. In the middle are some Euphorbia Francoisii that are starting to show their colors and shapes. The other containers are newly sprouted haworthia hybrids, and some Dorstenia Giagas and Dioscorea Mexicana seeds that haven't germinated yet.
>>2912401Close up of the E. Francoisii
>>2912401Curly "Dorset Horn" seedlings.
>>2912401Mini vs. Regular Obesums
>>2912401Haworthia hybrids one week after sowing.
>>2912401where did you get the gigas seeds?
>>2912441French site, le jardin naturel
>>2912401Aw shit.I have a few adeniums I'm trying to train for bonsai. They're cool little succulent.
>>2912471I've toyed with the idea of doing a dedicated bonsai, but I always end up just pruning the hell out of them to get that fat caudex.
>>2912481>that fat caudexyea boi
>>2912203Chives are nothing lad. Mint is the herb that wants nothing more than to own your entire garden.
>>2912547Got wild mint here too quite a big patch too. Never tried planting it in the garden, always just trecked through the bush to grab some when I wanted some.
Redpill me on Lilium lancifolium, when to plant, temp ranges, etc. Kinda new to plant stuff and didn't want to fuck it up
Middle of summer here. Passionfruit has just come into bloom. There is a wild hive of native stingless bees in the front yard, just waiting for them to come in and pollinate. Couple flowers have closed and started fruiting, so they may have already gotten started.
>>2912449thanks mate, been looking for them everywhere
my friend took tiny palm tree from turkey with him to polandhe planted it in ordinary "flower soil"should he warm it up with a lamp? delivering artificial light is beneficial i think, since we have winter now in poland?
>>2912819need more info than that really. pic of the plant, or a name.
>>2908583Not to knock on either side here but something I've noticed about plants is there is a bit of luck involved too. I mean I've seen people who have no business trying to keep a pet rock somehow keep multiple non native orchids alive and blooming for years in the worst growing conditions you can think of.
>>2912667Plant in spring and it doesn't matter your temp range. They grow like weeds once established.They drop little black things that become new bulbs after a couple of years in the ground, so be prepared for them to take over an area in 3-4 years after you plant them
>>2912920>They drop little black things that become new bulbs after a couple of years in the groundso seeds?
>>2912818Shipping took a bit because of the current unpleasantness in France, but the price is good.
>>2912953No because they grow at the base of the leaves instead of dropping from the flower. It's very weird looking
>>2912953I think they are known as bulbils not seeds.
>>2912481Yeah exactly, get the fat caudex and then let it do it's thing.
>>2912401First I was like 'fuck yea dem toes'>>2912404But then I saw that thumb
>>2913265Sorry to disappoint, brick fell on the base of my thumb and the dried blood still hasn't grown out.
>>2913265Redemption pic using the unbusted hand and a close of of the Somalense babies.
>>2913284I have four that are roughly this big right now. Did major cut back for winter so they'll get fatter (I got them in like November, never grown them before) with the intention of doing bonsai.There was one that came with these that's a fucking monster but i let my mom have it. I was talking about wanting some and she said she'd always wanted one. I found a local lady selling them on Facebook and she told me to go grab all of them for her, lol.
>>2908567>clear terminology is too much help for beginnersI'm a beginner, in fact I am a pre-beginner, and speaking your language is hard enough as it stands, I don't think there is too much of a need to make it all the more difficult for people like me.But of course, I won't tell you how to make your comments, so you do you.
>>2913315This is my first time growing them from seed, yours looks great. The only full grown one I have is a Crispum.
Yooo I didnt know this general existed I've been on /out/ homegrowmenBut I grow a lot of houseplants. Randomly met a dude in my city who raises carnivorous plants! He hooked me up phat will post macros later
>>2913347Very nice, is that a King Sundew I see?
>>2913352i gotta look at the name tags again, but im not home at the moment.Originally I found wild Drosera Rotundifolia and was kinda shocked by how cool it was so i snagged a few (there were hundreds I know its bad but I didnt know at the time ) and have been raising them for a long time, so now i want to expand collection
>>2913353That's pretty neat, even if you did poach them.There's only 1 teeny tiny drosera known in the wild here. Never seen it before.Saw some wild pitcher plants in a bog on my grandmothers land though, I peered inside and there was a frog skeleton inside one of them
>>2912401>>2912403>>2912404>>2912406>>2912409>>2913284>>2913315Beautiful plants and pics as always Adenium anon.>>2913347Welcome to /plant/. It's a bit quiet atm. Winter time, I guess.What other houseplants do you grow?Lots of anons here grow carnivorous plants or succulents, among other things.
>>2913325Thanks but I can't take much credit, that's pretty much how it looked the day I got it. I'll snag a few tonight to show how much I chopped off.
>>2913365Greatly appreciated, that last one belongs to the anon who posted below you.
>>2912118I'm a different anon, but this lesson was actually really great. Made me kind of feel stupid looking back at my awful attempts at wiring. Guess you and the other bonsai folks in here pushed me over the edge to finally start again.With that being said, anyone taking care of a german oak bonsai? That's what I'll be going for comes april or may.
>>2913367Sweet, looking forward to it.
>>2913315Would love to see it once you make it a bonsai
>>2913425Any advice on growing these as fat as possible as quick as possible?Only things I can find are Indian guys on YouTube and I'm not sure if their advice is legit or just heresay. I took two of these and "repotted" recently, everything I've read says to make a big cut and flatten the bottom part of the caudex then drop it back in the soil etc.I don't really know what I'm doing with these things so I did that to one, just did some regular root pruning to the other and left the other two alone
>>2913539I don't have any experience with grafted plants, and almost all the ones I actively cultivate are arabicums. But as for the Indian youtubers, most of them are generally legit. I've never done the full root removal, but Thai growers swear by it. Usually after they cut all the roots, they let it soak in rooting fertilizer for a few hours before letting it dry out for a day or two, then put it in a really shallow bowl until feeder roots start to mature a bit. The most I've done is prune the taproot and all the leggy branches, and that, combined with time does the trick for me. Adeniums are remarkably variable in potential caudex size, growth rate, and leaf color, that's why I grow from seed. A lot of the affordable mature plants online are one's growers don't want. If you're getting these guys ready for resell, then just treat it like a bonsai, and train it into an interesting shape, I've seen those sell offline really quickly.
anyone got any experience with growing bonsai trees from seeds? i like to grow random stuff for fun so my sister got me a bonsai starter kit for Christmas. the instruction manual is pretty useless and says to soak the seeds in a bowl of water for 24-36 hours. there's 4 different species and that seems like a really long time to me. the species are Pinus Aristata, Jacaranda Mimosifolia, Picea Abies, and Delonix Regia. thanks for any help.
>>2913539India/thailand love adenium, so these tutorials are generally good. Keep in mind that what works in their climate might not work in yours. For maximum thiccness gains:>amputate taproot, let radial roots grow>use flat pots>every repotting pull it up in the pot>max light you can provide>lots of potassium and phosphorus but limited nitrogen>irregular watering schedule>gritty soil mix + irregular fertilizing with liquid fert rather than slow release>if you use slow release sprinkle it only along the edge of the pot so that roots need to reach>high humidity doesn't contribute to thiccness but it helps them branch out without any pruningI also tried a root stimulant ('canna rhizotonic') and while it was absolutely useless for other plants it seems to actually work for caudiciforms. I'm not 100% sold yet since my sample size was 4 plants, but it seems worth a try. Another thing i'm not sure about is dormancy. Plants that went dormant over winter seem to grow much better the follwing spring. Ones that don't go dormant tend to suffer a great deal over winter in my climate though, so maybe if you can provide ideal conditions during winter it doesn't matter that much.>>2913589Treat them like normal trees until they're 2-3 years old at least. A 24h soak isn't that long, so do that. Also the trees from cold climates probably won't germinate without cold stratification so you're gonna have to put them in the fridge for several weeks before sowing)
>>2913707ok thanks, it's been about 7 hours now and more and more seeds have sank to the bottom. apparently that means they are potentially viable. the only trees i've ever grown from seed are citrus that i just put in soil and avocado pits (which are an entirely different story) so soaking the seeds in water seemed weird to me. apparently they don't require certain temperatures to germinate though so ill let them soak at least 24 hours and try to germinate them in peat.
>>2907934>amaryllis >growing too big for it's pot>whatever life's hard>wake up, start doing stuff>step on something wet>it fell over on the floor overnight>it's fucking dead
>>2909960The cats love to eat my ponytail palm. I try to block it with other plants and humidity trays, but they always get up there anyways.
>>2913707>>2913589So it seems I should go ahead and just put them into bonsai pots and with my inorganic soil mix.I'll keep that in mind. I have to go get some training pots anyway, running out of bonsai containers.
>>2913707That's another thing I read, they talked about hanging them to force them to go dormant etc but I'm not sure if that's the best route if I'm trying to ramify and get thiccc rather than have a ton of blooms right away.
>>2913833>>2913828Also have a third bump.Here are some pyracantha I got about a year and a half ago.I thought they were starting to fuse together, they are not. So I've pulled them all apart and now have six little starters.
>tfw only one Adenium>no scope for experimentationhe's still looking good though. the trunk doubled in thickness within a few weeks after i gave it the chop. only a year old still.
>>2913835I've always found bonsai so interesting!
>>2913835Pyracantha is a really underrated plant for bonsai imo.It's semi-evergreen, with nice blossoms and colourful fruits. Super easy to prune and train, and responds well to hard pruning. Not fussy about soil. 10/10
>>2912687I had one of these some years back. It completely covered about 30 feet of panel fencing.At it's peak, it would put out 50-100 flowers every day, for the entire Summer.The fruit never ripened though. English Summer not enough I guess.
>>2913840I started off assuming they were pretty damn popular because they're in every book I have and also, I got these from someone who was giving me a bunch of stuff she wasn't using just to clear out space etc.But yeah, now that I've been in this for about two and a half years I realize you don't see too many of them getting posted/talked about in Instagram or bonsainut/the Facebook groups.I'll probably end up putting one or two of these into the ground and trying my best not to dig them up prematurely.I'd like for them to be thick enough so I can screw them to a piece of plywood first though.
>>2913836just get some seeds, they're cheap and have good germination rates all around
>>2913839Here's my favorite tree that I end up posting in every thread. Dwarf Black Olive, bucida spinosa.Bought this from the same person who donated things before, she was culling her collection down to ten or twelve plants because she doesn't have the time for them all.I'll find the picture of it when I first brought it home to post next. This was sometime probably around august
>>2913849Does it fruit or no?
>>2913849Right after I brought it home, may 10, 2018.Took the picture mostly to show off the work table I made out of scrap from the planter boxes/greenhouse I was putting together.
>>2913849Once I move I'll hopefully get some outdoor bonsai eventually. I've only got 3 Ficus right now.
>>2913847I am considering it for the Spring, but I am pretty much full up in terms of space. I could squeeze in a seed tray, but once they all get bigger I wouldn't have anywhere to keep them.
>>2913854No, dwarf Black Olive is just the common name for it.It grows these little spines and has flowers but no fruits. Mostly evergreen, likes tropical/subtropical weather.Grew like crazy this summer, I had to go in a prune it back quite a bit to maintain the shape etc I might let it grow crazy this year and see how it develops. It doesn't need a much bigger pot but I could probably double the canopy size with the way it ramifies on its own etc.
>>2913846>so I can screw them to a piece of plywoodWould you explain to someone who has almost no idea about bonsai (these small trees, right?) what you mean by this?Do you screw a piece of wood to the trunk, presumable from the bottom? Is it to hold the bonsai in place?When I google around for this, people talk about the right material for the screws, but only hint at the purpose and while I can imagine screwing into the tree, I'm rather bewildered by the thought.
>>2913867>>2913867You plant onto a flat surface like plywood, a tile, an old CD to encourage the roots to grow out radially and enhance the nebari.If you're not familiar with the term, nebari is the flare on the trunk as it extends out towards the roots.When you're growing out a young tree to try and thicken it up, if you plant it on a hard flat surface like this, your roots can't grow down so those fat taproots etc grow sideways and as the nutrients pass through them and they thicken up you end up with a better looking nebari.Tl;DrIt's to encourage the roots to grow radially, give you a better looking tree and save you time later on
This Sarracenia keeps growing (slowly)
>>2913930Do you feed it or let it catch its own prey?
>>2913933I use osmocote for sarrs, but not in winter
I have this, terrarium? Mini greenhouse? It's called the Calipso Combi Planter.I haven't been able to find anything about it, really, other than it's French made. I'm planning on using it as a seed starter, germinator, that sort of thing.Does anybody else have one of these things?
>>2913811Looks like a Trachycarpus. Not often grown as a houseplant, but it needs as much light as you can give it.
>>2913948Is that more effective than feeding them insects?
>>2913835oh boy, those roots could dry off into a nice gnarly mass above soil, how wilderness
>>2914073>a nice gnarly mass
>>2913836Where do you chop ot to make the trunk bigger
wise man say, chop plant smoll, it grow up swoll.
but leave plant big, it stay a twig.
>>2913352>>2913347>>2913365Better pics incoming
I love sundews once you get a macro lens on them
>>2913952is the soil ok?
>>2914573From that pic? Are you serious? I have no idea.
>>2914573Windmill palms don't really have special requirements for the soil, mine are doing fine in the regular garden clay outside. Just don't overwater now that it's winter. Also they come from a cool climate, so I don't know if constant tropical conditions (indoor) are best for them/if they need dormancy period
>>2914518How does the dew taste?
>>2914919Go on. Live a little.
>>2914518>>2914537Sundews are the best.
>>2914893less sugary than mountain dew, lewdd
>>2914893>>2914919>>2914930I'd imagine it tastes a little sweet, I mean, it's there to attract sugar loving bugs
Is my plant here doomed? I am worried about the weird look of the soil and the brown tips. I think its a draecena? Anyway, the pot has no drainage and I don't know how to repot it properly without killing it probably. What can I do to save this plant? Its winter time so the sunlight is kind of ass I guess. I have no idea how to water it properly. I have been using a spray bottle on it maybe once a week? Lately I stopped watering it because I thought I was over watering because I was using a cup to put water in which I guess this type of plant doesn't like soppy roots? Any advice would be great
>>2915133Looks like the very common variegation type of Dracaena fragrans, I (and probably millions of others) have one with the exact same leaf stripe pattern. Looks healthy generally, but the brown tip might suggest underwatering. Just water thoroughly whenever the soil is dry finger deep. No drainage is bad, because salts will build up over time. Just squeeze the pot a little from the sides, maybe go inside between pot and soil with a long knife around, then it should easily come out with the root ball, after that you can repot to a slightly bigger one
>>2914050Yeah also it's less messyI use live insects for adult Flytraps
>>2914831are you sure the palm from photo i sent is Trachycarpus fortunei?
>>2915470And fish flakes for small ones
How do grow an African acacia in USDA grow zone 5a?
What plant is this?
Does anyone know what plant this is?
>>2915470>>2915491I have "pet" ants, when one of the ants die, the other ants drag it to a pile, I fed the freshly dead to my Venus flytrap when I had one. It seemed to be pretty content with that. I could've also fed live ants as they were plentiful, but I figured the dead would be easier.
>>2915489It's hard to tell at this stage, but considering you have it from Turkey that'd be the most likely (they are planted a lot around the Med Sea).Other somewhat common fan palms would be Chamaerops humilis (those have spikes at the leaf base - but I don't know if that's already the case when young) and Washingtonia sp. (they have leaves with fibres coming off)Here my Trachycarpus for comparison
>>2915489>>2915621And Chamaerops, notice the "thorns" on the base
Do my pet plants love me?I sure love them.
>>2915897Depends. Do they show healthy growth? If they do, they love you.Plants show their love with healthy growth
Is it ok to move a dwarf alberta spruce from inside to outside in a New Jersey winter? I was about to because I thought I read somewhere they can't survive indoors long, but my dad stopped me and said it'll die if I don't wait until spring. I can't really find a straight answer on google on whether it's ok or not to proceed with moving it.I wouldn't be planting it in the soil just yet, just leaving it in its pot for now.
>>2915840Not even in a greenhouse?
>>2915949Well Alberta gets much colder winters than new Jersey. But, since it's potted the roots will get much colder. Snow and ground keep the roots warm through the winter.With bonsai, it's recommended to bury the pots before winter hits. Obviously you can't bury it now because the ground is too frozen (unless I'm mistaken, I don't know American winters that well)So unfortunately I would recommend keeping it indoors only because it's potted
I want to "de-graft" this GymnocalyciumIs this doable?And how should I do it?I mean, I's not one of the varieties without chlorophyll, so if would do fine on it's own.I'm not sure if it would survive the process though.
Fuck you /plant/ I’ll just figure it out myself Will post acacia OC later
>>2916263Just cut that bitch off with a sharp sanitized knife.Cacti are very tough and survive being chopped easily, they just callous over and then grow roots.
>>2916263That's hideous. I can see why you want to try and separate them.
>>2915491Potted, in a green house, that has quite low humidity.Do some more research, and you'll be fine.Good luck.
>>2916442I think they were responding to the wrong post.I think..
>>2915504are you >>2916270? I'm growing an australian acacia in zone 3/4a. You'll need to keep it as an indoor plant obviously
>>2907934hello I need somebody to recommend me a climbing rose that meets these conditions;becomes yuge, 15 feet or morelots of fragancerepeat-bloomingbetter in redthank you
>>2916517A rose? Do you mean a climbing vine perhaps?
>>2916263It depends on how its grafted but separate the two with a disinfected knife, use garden lime on both parts to make then try quicker, then after a week brush off the lime and place the gymnocalycium down on vermiculite until it roots. I recommend looking up Hanazono's forum threads on degrafting, they're very educational.
I don't know about other plant growers, but the carnivorous plant community shifted over the past ten years from the forums to facebook groups. Anyone else find this annoying as fuck? CPUK is still good for trading but discussion there is almost completely dead, and now anyone getting into the hobby has to go to facebook for discussion, which is full of borderline retarded 50 year olds giving out half-baked advice which would almost certainly lead to failure for a novice. Breaks my heart, lads.
>>2916523Not just carnivorous plants my dude, succulents and cacti did the same, house plants in general are also super big on facebook. I see some unbelievably stupid advice in those groups
>>2916523That sounds shitty.Im just getting into carnivorous plants myself, very different from my huge collection of succs and most of my information came from doing my own research online.Never really been one for forums, aside from here so I don't know how bad it really is, but Facebook just looks awful.
>>2916518yes, a climbing rose like rosa banksiae for example.
>>2916527Eden or may queen are nice varieties. I think new dawn grows to roughly the size you want. But they're not a crimson red, more of a pink. Why's it have to be rose, just person preference?
>>2916523Fucking thisAnd they deleted my post telling some newbie his vft was gonna die because apparently I wasn't nice enough.Since I finally got the last cp I wanted (Dionaea SD Kronos) I got out of the community and just do my own thing.
Previously un-leafed stump of anubias growth over the span of two years.
>>2916531My garden lack of colours. Is just sooo green. I need a big vine with colours in the front of my house. But not too showy I dont want it to become too dramatic.
>>2916548What's your zone?
what species is this succulent? I bought one of those big packs of mini succulents but they didnt put any kind of label on what they were.
>>2916525Cactiguide isn't as active as it was before but it's still going strong. Same with other cacti or succulent based forums. I haven't checked out how the Facebook groups are. When it comes to succulents I think the biggest disgrace is the reddit forum which is just filled with women posting their basic echeveria and lithops "teehee butt plants xD" and asking basic care questions like why their plant is dying when they've watered it twice in one week.
>>2916550Looks like Trichodiadema Densum.
>>2916549zone 9b or 8 maybe.
>>2916518>A rose? Do you mean a climbing vine perhaps?You do realise climbing roses are a thing, right?
>>2916553>the biggest disgrace is the reddit forumA little different to carnivorous plants there, the reddit is relatively good (I guess carnivorous plants are more a nerdy boy's plant in general), still has basic care questions but at least the answers are always thorough.
>>2916556Oh shit you live in a much better climate than me. I would suggest maybe looking into passionflower vines, as a lot will bloom throughout the year, are red, get large and use tendrils to climb (roots, like ivy, will fuck up any structure they grow on) and some produce nice fruitsalternatively clematis macropetala is extremely hardy, flowers for a long time and looks quite nice. Other really pretty vines you can consider are morning glories, hawaiian baby woodrose, Aristolochia macrophylla. Those don't come in red though but make extremely beautiful flowers
>>2916517>>2916556Technically, a rambler, but Rosa moschata is a stunning plant to cover a house or shed with.The blooms are white, but there's probably a red or pink hybrid available.The fragrance is so powerful, you can smell it from 50 feet away.
>>2916523I guess it all depends on the commercial availability of the plant. The facebook group I am a part of specialises in Amorphophallus, and the people who actively breed them give out legitimate advice.
>>2916588absolutely a deciding factor, most people probably get into growing things such as Amorphophallus do so after proactive research rather than passive impulse buying
>>2916339>>2916521thanks, will do>>2916342yea, I´m not a fan of grafting cacti, unless absolutely necessary
>>2916588>The facebook group I am a part of specialises in AmorphophallusSpecialized Groups are mostly OK.I´m in a few specialized Plant groups on Facebook for Asclepiadaceae, Araceae and OrchidaceaeIn one Orchid group there are quite a few people who even kill the basic Phal hybrids, then proceed to ask about where to buy rare and finicky species when you show some pics of your rarer plants. This pisses me off sometimes.one of my most hated questions>How do you care for miniature orchids? When I proceed to tell them that this can´t be generalized, as there are hundreds of tiny species, all with specific care requirements, they often say.>yes, but how do you keep them? In a terrarium?Bitch, I just told you they all have different care requirements, I´m not gonna put Trisetella hoeijeri in the same terrarium as Bulbophyllum moniliforme
>>2916644This is an interesting discussion, but can we keep it plant related? We don't want a repeat of the 'discord debacle'.
>>2916653Yea, you are rigthI'll shut up about it now.
>>2916631Grafted cacti can look cool, like if you want to make a frankencactus that has like 5 different cacti all grafted together.But that typical "moon cactus" like you posted just look so disgusting. I honestly don't know why people buy them up so much, and lots of people don't even know they are grafted together.
>>2916653There is no discord debacle.
What are some of the easiest orchids to care for? Besides phals, I already have a couple of those.I kinda like those with a 'round body' just under the leaves not sure if im making myself clear
>>2916562>>2916563thank you very much.
>>2916553imagine gatekeeping one of the most boring and basic hobbies ever. you're one sad little boy.
>>2916769succ/cacti arent always easy, succs seems to be faster growing, more surface area i guess
>>2916769Now that's a lot of assumptions.
>>2916769>the most boring and basic hobbies ever.Not him but plants can be anything but basic or boring. Why would you even be on the plants general if you felt that way?>gatekeepinglmao I'll agree with you on that
So, I got this Norfolk Pine from a nice old couple off of craigslist maybe five months ago. Guy said it was 14 years old, from when he got it. Maybe four feet tall, almost six feet wide, very leggy, but with an almost two inch trunk.He said that he topped it spring of 2017, but you honestly couldn't tell, until you looked up close and saw the mark. The tip regrew directly in the center, just like it never happened. Now, everything I've read about norfolks say that that won't happen. If the top even does start growing again after that, it'll be all crooked, and won't grow right.Now, this thing's big. Wide, big. One arm was at least three feet long by itself. After enough research I decided to cut it anyways, even though that should make that arm stop growing. It was big enough anyways.A few months later, and now it has three new growths on the end of the branch I trimmed.Looking around more, trying to find any kind of look alikes, the only thing that other people have potentially mistaken for a Norfolk is a monkeys paw tree, and well, that's not mine.Does anybody know any other trees that look identical to Norfolk pines, and actually regrow from old growth? Or do I just have a uncharacteristically tough "pine"?pics to come
>>2916903Sorry can't really help without pictures bud.
>>2916953Yea, probably should have done that sooner.
>>2916714Apparently theyre called bulbophyllum, what are your favorites? Which one are the easiest?
>>2916714>>2917242Depends on which conditions you can provide.Humid/dry?Cold/temperate/warm?
>>2917243Around 50% humidity and I can provide both temperate and intermediate conditions
>>2916525I own a small houseplant group but I always planned to market things to 5h3 group. I own a large plant page too. I want to create a brand or informational plant website. So I'm building communities in Hope to leverage them later to help my projects become successful.>>2916523I randomly met a guy who sells them in my city from a group. Met him in real life was a good exp so there's some good to it. But lotsof normie spewing all kinds of bullshit
Ok, thoughts on this crabapple:Got it last year around may-ish, it has more foliage etc now mid Winter than it did when I got it, and some apples are growing so I figure winter fruit etc no big deal.I feel like I need to take a look at the roots before spring hits, I did nothing to the tree when I got it other than drop it into the box and backfill with soil. I'm not too excited about the left branch but I think it shows good potential for an air layer with the nice change of direction at the top.. (Which from what I've read needs to start around summer/fall?)Let's say I decide not to air layer and go with the tree as is, I've still got to figure out what to do with this ugly mass of roots.Anybody who grows these for bonsai have any thoughts
>>2917261OKYou might look into B. falcatum, trigonosepalum, longissimum,.. just to name a few. Many Bulbophyllum species would like you conditions (most prefer it a bit more humid) Just look into the easier to keep species.I´m sure you´ll be successful if you do your research before buying some
>>2917390Why do you need to look at the roots?
>>2916644i'm in all the african violet groups but sometimes I can keep some that are notoriously difficult but kill the easy ones. i think people over look individual environments sometimes. my point being is just becaused they killed an easy one doesn't mean they can't keep a difficult one. some experienced growers also ignore the common plants in their collections.
>>2907934is there any good indoor plants to grow just for air quality and go do from seeds? everything i've found like snake plant, spider plant, peace lily, indoor palm i dont see any seeds anywhere just already potted plants you buy as babies and grow upis there anything i can do from seeds or is that just a few herbs and flowers and shit? i got a huge snake plant right now but im scared to take cuttings from it and just start chopping it up and shit and have the cutlings die or fuck it up or something and im just chopping up my plantif i take cutlings from a snake plant will the leaves regrew or regenerate where i cut it off or does it just have a dead limb forever or what happens to that leave you cut?what about some mini tree or something like one of those cool bansai Asian trees or something I can grow from seedit looks like every seed on amazon is a Chinese scam
>>2917927or a ficus silk tree. I really want one of those. is there a ficus silk tree seed?
>>2917927>air qualitythat's a massive memeno, the leaves will not regrowyou can grow all trees from seed and you can make them all into bonsai, some just work better than othersyes, never buy from the chinese unless maybe they're from taiwan and have a good reputation. It's best to buy from nurseries dedicated to whatever family of plants you want to grow. all of the plants mentioned can be grown from seed, it's just that nobody bothers because there are easier ways
>>2917927>i got a huge snake plant right now but im scared to take cuttings from itif you've got a big clump, the best way thing to do is just divide it.take the whole rootball out of the plant, and split the rootball into separate pieces. make sure each piece has some leaves with roots attached, then they can all go into separate pots.
>>2918087>whole rootball out of the plant*out of the pot, i mean
>>2918095>making a thread before bumpkys
>>2917765I put it into this grow box when I got it and there's a lot that I haven't examined yet. For all I know, there's a badass nebari hidden under the gnarly surface roots
>>2917927The air quality thing is false btw.Yes, the plants are able to filter out some harmful chemicals BUT it's such a small amount that you get more fresh air by opening and closing your door than your plant would make in a week.Unless your house is 90% plant biomass, it's not going to do anything.Just stick to what plants you think look good and not ones that filter the air. It really is a massive meme as >>2918045Pointed out
>>2917390most fruit trees in general require heavy pruning. You might grow and awesome branch and then it dies. go look at an old orchard. look how many big branches are gone.with the bonsai thing in mind most fruit tree don't live that long and are more prone to pest than other trees. also in general they are messy fucks.as a non bonsai person it seems a bad choice for a bonsai. but its a tree pull it up and wash all the fucking dirt off and repot it. its not going to hurt.
>>2917927all those responses are correct and how often does your snakeplant bloom?? thats why you can't buy the seeds. I'm in a garden club and when someones snakeplant blooms they bring that fucker in a show it off. we bow down to them, dance around it and ask them how they did it. but nobody ask for a seed or to try and pollinate it. because its so easy to take a cutting. if you can't grow a cutting you can't grow it from a seed.
>>2918150I had a variegated Sansevieria trifasciata, not huge, but about half a dozen crowns, and it reliably flowered every year.They are really not very interesting flowers either. Very similar to a spider-plant.Still, the flower spikes lasted for several weeks, and had a pleasant fragrance.
>>2918148Crabapple is pretty popular when it comes to fruitxbonsai because of the size of the apples etc. I haven't decided if I'm going to do anything to it, I don't want to do any root pruning and then lose the few apples I've got growing.In other news,I have the day off so ifinally dug up this liquidambar clump that was growing off of the roots of the tree we had cut down last year.
>>2918242>>2918256are these pics both of the same plant?bottom pic is a very nice little bonsai forest.suckering plants are handy like that.
>>2918095>8 replies>2 postersThis is not how you start a new thread.
>>2918320>an OP can't post a few pictures in the thread that they startedwew lad
>>2918294Yup, same plant.
>>2917569thanks i love u bro
>>2918154they really don't bloom that often is it outside.>>2918242Your right I looked up the pictures and it looks pretty cool. But if you live in the south they grow super easy and you could probably just dig up a big one and work it down to a small pot and save a lot of time. If you live up north maybe be the first quince bonsai grower.
>>2918643>hey really don't bloom that often is it outside.no, it was a houseplant in the UK, on a SE facing windowsill. it was years ago. i gave it away when i had to move to a flat with very little space.