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Making a formal general edition. Feel free to share and discuss anything bird related here, whether it be about pet birds or wild birds.

It is very effective to tame and train pet birds using clicker training:
https://hari.ca/avian-care/behavior-training/clicker-training-parrot-modify-behavior/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z-yiDIjn2s

Feed your pet birds a varied diet, not just on seed mix, or else their lifespan may be cut short.

>DIY bird cages
https://www.beautyofbirds.com/buildingacage.html

>Bird ID
https://www.allaboutbirds.org

>Bird Discord
https://discord.gg/Nn8zpGZ

>Old Thread
>>2867315
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Cardinals are cool.
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How to feed bird effectively?
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How's your life list doing?

I just got up to #215 this week.
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>>2895327
499 life list and 488 for the year.
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>>2895336
Hardcore. Right on.
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>>2895350
Birding in 3 countries (one country was only for a few hours on a layover) and 7 states this year. Still some hope to hit 500 before the end of the year.
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Birds are important.
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Sup, birbs? I'm going to open a public aviary. No, fuck YOU, I WILL do this. Anyways, what birbs should I get? Nothing over 90 lbs pls. The idea is to demonstrate how birds are dinosaurs.
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Bump.
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Does anyone have a budgie that likes being pet?
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>>2895350
Should add, 51 new life species this month. AZ business trip that got me one free day for birding in the Tucson area plus mornings and sunset in the Phoenix are.
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>>2896048
Birds generally don't like being pet. It's a matter of absolute trust for them to be comfortable with it.
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>>2896068
I know a cockatoo that absolutely loves it and will climb trough the entire aviary if someone offers to pet him.
But he also doesn't fly and never really hangs out with his cockatoo companions or the other birds so I guess he might be somewhat autistic or had bad owners
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Do you guys winter feed friendly neighbourhood birds and if yes with what?
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>>2896078
Yes, and it depends on where you live and what kind of birds you get. I use a variety of thistle, nuts, cheap sead, safflower, and black oil sunflower seed. Of course there are suet blocks.
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>>2896048
I wish mine did as they look so soft. One of mine tolerates some chest rubbing and kinda likes it. That is it though.
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>>2896078
I used to feed with sunflower seeds. And sometimes even salo.
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>>2896073
All cockatoos are autistic. He probably just has a human fetish.
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>>2895213
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>>2896068
my gray will come up to me and start bobbing his head really hard until i pet his head
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>>2896236
I wish my grey was like that...
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>>2896164
>All cockatoos are autistic
But are they autistic in the wild, too? Or is it captivity that turns them autistic?
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>>2896268
they're like little people, they're all unique in their own ways.

sometimes mine will even bow. that's his way of telling you to pet him.
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>>2896270
Well, in this case it is mine fault, since I ripped couple feathers couple times, when he wanted a scratch.
Worst part is that he still allows everybody else to pet, but not me.

So, yeah, I guess retards shouldn't own parrots.
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>>2895395
Just look at these degenerates >>2895416
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>>2896269
Yes.
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I have a tray style feeder and birds like to sit in it. They seem healthy and fly off if I go outside. Should I get / make them a bird house or something to chill in?
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>>2896813
Yes but post pics so we can have sick /birb/ oc.
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What are the nicest friendliest birbs
Idk if ducks are exactly the friendliest but snuggling with them is really cool, their flat bills are so cute and they’ll nuzzle you with them if they rly like you
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My 3 year old galah is being a cheeky cunt and nipping me a little too hard. Any tips on how to discourage her mischievous behaviour?
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>>2897244
>rape
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Spicy Pete, or Pitter Patter, or Pitter as I call her. I have had birbs my entire life and she's #1 of all time so far.

Her wings are clipped, but she can still get distance, but no height. She doesn't care either way, she walks down the sidewalk no problem. Rides the wild Muscovy ducks in the morning, keeps me company while gardening, follows me around the house like a puppy. If the door closes before she reaches it with her tiny pitterpatters, she'll just scream outside the door until I open it to let her in. Same with the front door. Oh she's like a dog that NEEDS to go outside. She walks right out and in as she pleases.
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Just curious op, why did you feel the need to make a discord for a generic bird thread? Why do some people in general try to take 'ownership' of a topic (in this case, birds), make a discord for it, and then act as if I think is an official or formal thing? Does it make people feel important or something because they have nothing else to do?
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>>2896068
Birds do generallylike being preened though.

>>2896048
Yes. There are special ways in which you can clicker train a budgie to gain a lot of trust in hands, and then from there you can preen your budgie, just on the head cheeks and under the beak. Other methods of taming are slower. People who claim some birds are IMPOSSIBLE to get to like head scratches or handling just don't know how to bond with birds. You need to be very specific in the interactions with the birds and you need to understand their body language. The average dumbfuck who can't tame their bird just makes the excuse that 'oh my bird just doesn't like hands it is his personality I won't force it'.
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>>2897278
Sounds like an excellent idea to get your dick mutilated
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>>2897686
It's just hard to preen smol birds without accidentally doing something to make them uncomfortable.
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I've got a weird question. I'm kind of a brainlet when it comes to bird ownership. I have no interest in owning a pet bird, but I was wondering how birds can live a fulfilling life in a cage. This isn't some bullshit philosophical question, but rather how birds can literally exist just being in a cage without becoming extremely lethargic/unhealthy.

Domesticated cats and dogs still have the ability in most cases to run around the house. Pet birds do what exactly? I'm a legit brainlet when it comes to this
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>>2897855
Don't keep your bird in a cage all the time.
My cockatoo is out of the cage as much as she can and just playing on top of it (or somewhere else) or chilling out near me.
A bird that's constantly in a cage (or worse, a cage that is too small) will indeed not be a happy bird.
Sadly lots of bird owners are retarded and don't actually care about the well-being of their birds and do keep them in a cage all day. Don't get a fucking bird if you don't intend to give it assloads of attention. Although it does kind of depend on the species. Small birds might be okay if kept in a sufficiently large cage and have some companionship, but to me that also doesn't sound like they can have a fulfilling life.
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>>2897855
They can't. Most bird owners are just abusive retards.
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What's a cute, gentle bird that's relatively easy to take care of?
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>>2897918
Pigeon
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>>2897881
Are you the person with the galah cockatoo?
>>2897900
This. It's not as if most dog and cat owners are any better
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>>2897935
Yeah I have a galah
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>>2897685
Nobody cares about discord links.

>>2897900
Seconded.
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>>2897855
>but I was wondering how birds can live a fulfilling life in a cage. This isn't some bullshit philosophical question, but rather how birds can literally exist just being in a cage without becoming extremely lethargic/unhealthy.
They (some of them) can live in cages for entire life. But it will have some health problems, i.e. weak wings.
Ideally, you should let your bird out of cage, so it can fly.
>Pet birds do what exactly?
Depends on bird, unironically.
My parrot likes to perform tricks in order to get treat especial, walk around house, destroy everything he doesn't like. Also he likes to shit on me.
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>>2897918
Pigeon, canary, cockatiel. Depends on how much you want to cuddle the bird and how long of a commitment you are willing to make.

>>2897943
>Nobody cares about discord links.
You are obviously wrong. I am personally most interested in the objectives and intent behind discord shills. It isn't the link itself that people don't like, it is the self-important ownership of 'general threads' that the discord shills act upon. ANY person used to just make general threads whenever they felt like it, but now it feels like a small circle of people are trying to be the 'owners' of such threads by advertising their discords and proclaiming that their threads are the official™ ones. This sort of attitude is cancerous.
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>>2898048
It's just tripfaggotry by another method. Narcissistic fucks will always try to pull crap like that.
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Why are birdfags always either
>overly autistic friendless idiots who will die single and alone
Or
>elderly married white women with two to zero children
Like, there's no in-between, it's always these kinds of people who like and/or own birds.
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>>2898703
>>overly autistic friendless idiots who will die single and alone
why you comin at me like that man
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>>2897918
tamed finch like zebra or java
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>>2898703
Maybe because real birfags (not bird-abusers) are generally quite nice well-educated white people?
They don't have 9000 children, since it is a waste of money. They aren't into 'you should have 9000 friends to be successful' meme.
Since bird live long in general, they become 'elderly married white wo(men) with no more than 2 children"...
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>>2898703
>>overly autistic friendless idiots who will die single and alone
with my bird gf i'll never be alone
... ;-;
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>>2898703
Fuck you, I'm a productive person with a few close friends and a good family, and I just happen to really like birds. Granted, I don't own any (except a few chickens, bless their retarded hearts), but I will eventually when I feel that I can dedicate a few hours a day to one.

>>2898784
It's okay anon. There is literally nothing wrong with having a bird gf. Maybe some day you'll find a human who will love you like she does.
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compared to parrots, how much easier are finches to care for? id really love a parrot of my own but for now and possibly forever i just wont have the time available for one :/ but finches really interest me
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>>2896048
Mine did after a few years.
>>2898048
My mom wants a canary, we are going to pick one up in a few weeks. I thought these birds were hard to hand train? I'm still trying to research them. She is also looking at getting a love bird.
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>>2898703

Its more a case that people who buy them usually have a lot of time to spend with them. Those two groups are really just the most noticeable.
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>>2899592
Keeping finches is like keeping fish you can actually touch. They're super easy but also incredibly retarded.
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This is my son’s school picture, please say something nice, he has mild autism and low self-esteem
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>>2897881
This. My bird has his door open unless someone is cooking/door is open/go the fuck to sleep (open floor plan house) and will freely travel around. He expects daily toy time with my dad and is very suspicious of others touching his toys.
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Anyone that can help me out? My cockatiel has a pretty dirty vent, but otherwise he acts pretty normally ie eating normally, poop is normal, behaviour is normal. Not sure whats going on but was planning on brining him to the vet soon.
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>>2900022
How dirty? Are there chunks hanging on? Does it smell infected?
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>>2900030
A few chunks on the outer feathers, but no noticeable smell yet
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>>2900045
If the stool is normal it's probably fine then. It happens. You can scratch around there to free up the dingle berries but they should fall off on their own.
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>>2899611
canaries are more difficult to hand tame compared to birds like cockatiels or budgies, but it can be done if you do everything right and know exactly what to do.

>>2899654
I give my loaches pets sometimes. They are friendly fish. Some of my other fish enjoy nibbling on my hands.
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>>2897881
This.
And just as important to keep the bird happy:
Don't keep it without a second one of its species.
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I have installed a split ductless heat pump/aircon. Are they dangerous for birds?
There is no open fire, red hot metals, just cool or hot radiator with a fan. So I guess no, right?
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>>2900712
Good job answering your own question. It wouldn't be any more dangerous than any other hvac method, which is to say it's not dangerous at all.
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>>2900725
Ok. I'm just from thirdworld shithole, where residential air conditioning is a rare thing.
But what about 'freon' leaking? In my setup all connections are done outside, and unit is new, but there is still a chance that evaporator might leak after some time (hopefully never).
Btw, how sensitive birds are to gases? I know they are sensitive to Teflon and canaries were used to detect CO and methane... But what about some minor leak of natural gas (methane with some smelly thing)?
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>>2900749
And yeah, freon leaks are theoretically much worse, since it doesn't have any smell.
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>>2900749
If it's a new unit it's not using Freon, but the replacements can still be dangerous. Mostly just because they can displace oxygen in a room if the leak is quick. Slow leaks aren't a problem though.
Birds have a sensitive respiratory system but worrying about refrigerant leaks should be at the bottom of your list for potential risks to their health.
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>>2898703
>elderly white women

That's cat ladies anon. In my experience most bird people are elderly white guys, retirees with nothing but endless time on their hands and $15,000 to blow on cameras and optics
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My birds love "mac and cheese".
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>>2900658
nah i want to get a different bird as a companion for my first bird because getting different species is more fun for me, more than one of the same species is boring normie shit lol
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>>2901812
>""
What is it really you deprived bastard?
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we don't deserve them
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>>2901926
It's vegan.... I'm not veg but they love eating my food so much that I was getting worried they might eat something bad for them. I took up a bit of veg cooking just for them so they can eat with me and I don't have to feel bad about it. They still get people food nonveg treats, but they eat almost every meal with me, so....

Also I grew almost all the veggies myself, so.... I sound like a twat, I know, but I care about these little bastards so much.

Here's Pitter on the hawk scale perch. She's a little lean, but still in healthy range.
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Here she is helping me garden.
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Looking out the kitchen window this morning toward my neighbor's feeder and there's a shitload of medium-small birds bustling around on ground. I think to myself "those almost look like...naw it couldn't be..." Get out the binocs and it was. A small flock of Evening Grosbeaks
I haven't seen a flock of them in 20 years or more. Used to get them all the time then they disappeared. Hopefully they're making a comeback.
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grosbeaks are based
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>>2902253
I know. Such beauty. The screaming. The pooping. The dust. The eyelashes.
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>>2902483
>The screaming
Are cockatiels loud?
I have CAG (well, at this point parents have him), and he isn't loud or something
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>>2902499
They can be noisy, but not at loud as most other parrots. Mine just go SCREE SCREEE SCREE occasionally, especially early in the morning at in the evening. You can get an idea of the kind of sound they make here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX-dqhCUOcs

Of course they can also learn to make other noises.
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I want to get a bird, and I'm living in an appartment. I'm willing to keep him out of his cage while I'm home. what type of bird would you suggest me?

P.S. something that is not too fucking loud so I wont have problem with the neighbours
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>>2902558
Why do you want to get a bird out of all possible quiet apartment pets? What lifespan of animal are you willing to commit to? How old are you and do you have a stable job?
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>>2902512
>They can be noisy, but not at loud as most other parrots.
Looks like they're indeed quite quiet.

What is the loudest parrot? Cockatoo?
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>>2902642
Yes, cockatoos are certainly the top of the list.
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>>2902647
But what about macaws?
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Has anyone else been watching the Eagle Nest cams? The eaglets are cute birbs.
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I only now realized how birds do fly.
If you blow on wing from above (same as up stroke) feathers will move and allow air to pass.
If you blow from below - feathers won't move, thus there will be positive pressure, which will lift.
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>>2902657
There's that, and wing angle during up and down stroke. A lot goes into a flap.
Birds are beautifully complex.
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>>2902664
Also their feathers are asymmetrical.
I'll make a GIF tomorrow probably, since it is pretty cool.
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>>2895213

https://youtu.be/UKEPkDvfyz0

birds
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>>2902752
post more fluffbois
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Comfy girl.
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>>2903095
That pic has an aura of warmth
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Who
>chicken
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>>2903339
Me! Chickens are wonderful, curious, friendly creatures.
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>>2903376
Very nice my friend
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Love my cockatiel but literally can't sit in my office and work with him in his cage as he just contantly flock calls to be let out so he can sit on me, or the keyboard.

It's very cute but it gets in the way of me doing work, especially talking on the phone, what do? I think he's quite needy since he was hand reared.
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>>2903758
Try feeding him some snacks when you're on the phone. Can't yell if his beak is stuffed.
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>>2895597
>Nothing over 90 lbs
why?
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>>2903921
Yeah it makes little sense. Pretty much all individuals in aves weight less than 90lbs, the exception being some rattites.
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>>2903758
>hand reared.
What a shame of a practice. Raising birds to be confused all for people to have an easier time training them. This only benefits the lazy unskilled human who cannot put in the effort to train their birds.
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>>2902558
>I want to get a bird
*birds

>>2903758
Get him a bird bro and let's hope the wanted mental retardation is still reversable.
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>>2904559
>shadman
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My wife and I have rabbits currently, and sometime in the next decade when they pass away I wanted to get a budgie or two. Are there any good resources as far as what to feed them and how to house and socialize them?
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>>2905067
Feed them mainly with pellets like harrisons or roudybush. There may be other good brands that i dont know of. Feed seed mix as a daily treat or for use in training and taming. If there is always seed in the cage, the birds may feel no need to deal with a human who is offering them seed.

Housing: a big cage.

Socializing: work at their pace. Clicker training is very good. Just web search clicker training parrots. Do not overstep boundaries and grab them when they are scared, or force them to step onto your hand by pushing on their breast. Make deals with them. "if you are calm, i will leave you alone." or "if you get onto my hand, i will give you seed'. There are many good resources and many shit ones. I don't know of any specific good ones, i get my info from a few places and also from buying books and digital information. I like birdtricks and parrotwizard, but a lot of people also hate them because they also hate capitalism. If people hate bird tricks and parrotwizard, please provide a better source for being able to purchase a condensed source of relatively accurate information.
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Is it okay if my canary smells perfumes and such?


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>>2905547
Yes, but dont risk.
Canaries are extremely weak.
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>>2905583
Got it. Thank you very much
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Pacific Northwest Birbs (kinglets)
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>>2905940

camera can barely focus in the dark december forest
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>>2905079
I wish my birds would eat pellets. They refuse to the point where they wouldn't eat for 2 days. I caved. They wouldnt even touch them and I tried with all sorts of brands. I just try to get them the best seed mix I can with lots of different seeds to eat and feed them as much lettuce as they will take. They haven't moved onto the other vegis I try to get them to eat yet.
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>>2905973
Did you try to mix them in?
You can't just cold turkey a bird off of seed, you have to use a slowly adjusting (Over weeks) ratio of seed:pellet until there's barely any seed left.
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>>2905973
>>2906028
Why you want feed them pellets?
I think giving seeds and fresh stuff is much better, since you at least know, what is it.
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>>2906028
I did. They just ate the seeds and kicked out the bowl when they couldn't find anymore. The cold turkey thing was last resort. I also tried "sharing" the pellets, where I would 'eat' one then offer one to the bird. That trick worked once and then it started flicking the pellets to the floor.

>>2906042
I don't want them to just live off of fatty seeds. I am trying to vary their diet but one of them won't eat the food unless he sees me eat it a ton and even then he won't sometimes. I can't fake eat it either since he wants to see me chew it up which is gross.
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>>2906044
>I don't want them to just live off of fatty seeds
Give fresh veg and fruits, boiled eggs... chicken time to time.
> am trying to vary their diet but one of them won't eat the food unless he sees me eat it a ton and even then he won't sometimes. I can't fake eat it either since he wants to see me chew it up which is gross.
Based bird.
Why would you even feed bird stuff you won't eat? Good thing about birds that you can actually eat their food, especially cannabis seeds.
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What are the friendliest finch species? I want to build an outdoor aviary and have several birds, preferably of different species (mostly females since I’m not interested in breeding). I don’t want a companion bird, but I’d like if the birds at least flew down and took food from hands. I considered zebra finches but I read they can be aggressive to other bird species.
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>>2906052
I do it it, I just can't eat like 50 bananas everyday or until he is satisfied. Eating leaf after leaf of spring mix lettuce you hate or raw brussel sprouts and shit is rough man. He decides when he wants to try it as well. It took him months to try regular lettuce.
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>>2905973
My galah used to get seed mix and when I wanted her to switch to pellets she was a bit wary of them at first. Since she always wants to steal my food I figured I would just eat one myself in front of her and she just copied me. Made the switch cold turkey without any problems and now she happily chomps away on her pellets.
Probably need a certain level of trust for that though.
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Any cockatiel owners here? i'm a little worried about mine, for some days its been doing a 'pree' short sound as well as its tipycal 'wee' sound for a lack of better words, also sometimes it whistles from its nose from breathing out (one breath not continiously). i shower with it once every 2 weeks or so to wash up the dust and i fear it might been bad for it...should i be worried?
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>>2906374
Don't know but showering in itself is great for birds
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>>2906374
>>2906487
i kinda want to take my bird into the shower with me but he's terrified of literally everything

he's especially terrified of water which makes bathing him a pain in the ass
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>>2906374
>>2906499
i get mine in by making it stand on the shower's curtain rail, after i'm done i turn way down the flow and just stand there under the water, eventually it comes to my shoulder and i sort of make the water splat over my other hand so it wold stand beneath, just in case it helps
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I found a fucking budgie while on a walk with my dog this morning. First bird ID of the year, I guess.
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>>2906499
I think exposure to water from a young age is important. One of my cockatiels does not like water, and that could be because i did not spray him with water when he was young. My other two cockatiels love water and poof up when i spray them. it could help a water-shy bird to expose them to other birds that are not water shy so they can learn from other birds.

Pic related my tiels
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Comfy sprinklings on a hot day.
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>>2907442
Dat ass tho.
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>>2907442
One of my parakeets will only take a bath in my hands. He hates being sprayed.
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>2018 ends
>still haven't seen a sharp-shinned hawk

2.5 years now. I'm starting to think they don't exist.
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I'm jealous of them being so perfect from an evolutionary standpoint. Why did they never build civilizations? Why did they never enter the stone age? Was doing so a mistake? Did they have it right all along by staying in the trees?
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>>2907976
Howdy
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>>2907976
Howdy
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>>2907976
Howdy
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>>2907976
Howdy
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>>2907976
Howdy
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Is there a way for birds and dogs to be friends? My dog is friendly toward all animals (he has cat and rabbit friends that he will snuggle and gently play with) but the parakeet obviously is more fragile. I won't do anything to stress the bird unnecessarily- I was just wondering if it would ever be a possibility.
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>>2908503
It's not a good idea to leave any animals who can easily kill each other unattended. You can closely supervise interaction, but never ever take your eye away from them.
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>>2895213
Reviving this thread with no survivors
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>>2907976
Howdy
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Posting a picture of my birds because I can and for once they are getting along.
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>>2910184
I forgot the picture.
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If you have any wild bird pics I made a thread here >>2907691

>>2908185
>>2907976
Howdy
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>>2907976
Howdy
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birb loves heat
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>>2907976
Howdy
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>>2910187
I like how i can recognize the brand and type of some of those toys.
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>>2897556
she's a cute beeper <3
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>>2909894
i love chicken thoughts! cute little googly eyes :D
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>>2912042
They like them all. The little fuckers are spoiled rotten.
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you'll hate me for this, but can you recommend a bird species that is "not loud"? as most birds it should sleep at night, in the daytime it should not make noise 24/7 and if it does, it should not be louder than a normal conversation. all other factors are not really important to me. the cage can be around 2 cubic metres, i hope that's big enough for birds.
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>>2912342
Parakeets finches or doves maybe? I hear a lot of good things about doves, parakeets never shut the fuck up but they aren't loud.
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>>2912342
If you don't like noises - don't get birds.
That said, I'd say that budgies are not that loud. Canaries are not too loud. Doves/pigeons...
>>2912344
Some parakeets (i.e. lovebirds) are loud af. I even think they were louder than african grey.
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>>2912347
yeah, makes sense. i don't mind the noise, i have crickets and gerbils making noise at night, but i'm worried about the neighbors.
>>2912344
think i'll look into finches, they don't look like the generic pet bird. i guess they're not as "interactive" as other birds though.
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>>2912356
>yeah, makes sense. i don't mind the noise, i have crickets and gerbils making noise at night, but i'm worried about the neighbors.
Commie-block?
Typical bird isn't much louder, than tiny dog... I mean, it is possible to hear through walls, but it is not anything as annoying as barking of a dog.
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>>2912356
Then don't get those parakeets? It isnt like it is hard not to. If you are so concerned with standing out with your pet get an exotic dove.
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>>2912360
right now i have no one to worry about, but i will have to move within the next 2 years and then the noise could be an issue. i don't know about other countries but here in germany, nobody is suprised when your grandpa neighbour calls the police because you sneezed too loud at 22:01. that said, you're probably right, most birds wouldn't be that loud at all. I'll think about it a bit more and then do further research.
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>>2912342
Seriously consider a pigeon (also called doves). They make cute cooing noises exclusively, and they're absurdly cuddly comfy birds. Finches are better if you want a bird that's more like a cat than a dog. They're less interactive and lovey, and they cheep a lot, but the cheeps are tiny and you can pay less attention to them without them getting upset.

>>2912366
>nobody is suprised when your grandpa neighbour calls the police because you sneezed too loud at 22:01.
That's exactly what I'd expect from Germans, but it still sounds shitty.
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>>2912372
i legit always thought all pigeons are the same. i've kept all kinds of animals, mammals, herps, inverts, fish, but i was never interested in birds, so i'm just getting into this. but those colorful ones do look really nice. either way i have much research to do before i can decide, kind of stupid of me to just ask for recommendations.
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>>2912366
Is it legal to make noises during the day?
During night time you can cover the cage with dark blanket or fabric, and they will shut up. Also this blanket will act like sound dampening.
I think you will be fine even in apartment, unless you get bird like cockatoo.

Also I heard that in Germany it is illegal to have single bird... Or in Austria, don't quite remember.
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>>2912377
Until 22:00 you can be as loud as you want.
I don't know about bird laws here, but it's probably the case in Austria, same thing applies for guinea pigs there, and probably many other pets too. I think here it's not illegal. But 2/3 birds is fine by me.
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>>2907976
Howdy
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>>2912377
I baby sat a bird that even with the cover woke up at 4 am every morning making noise
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>>2913548
It means that more decent cover is required.
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Goddamn why are they so crazy for millet.
Can't keep her out of the millet bag for the life of me.
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>>2896270
My friend has a parrot that does that too. She even does it with people she doesn't know all too well. She's old though and doesn't really have a companion so maybe she's just lonely. Pic related, it's her.
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>>2912342
Budgies make constant happy chirping noises, they aren't that loud but can get annoying so I wouldn't recommend it for single room apartments if you don't know what you'll getting. But if your flat has normal walls, your neighbours won't hear a thing.
Source: My direct neighbours had 4.

If you get rescue birds they'll usually take them back if the neighbours do give your shit or you don't like them.
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>>2907976
Howdy

What do you mean by "perfect from an evolutionary standpoint"? I'm interested in that. Didn't know they were such efficient creatures.
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I've got two budgies that don't really seem to ever touch their toys or play with each other, they're in a relatively quiet area so I'm wondering if they'd be a bit more lively if I left a radio on in the room or something. Any suggestions?
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>>2913868
She just flat out looks like a total sweetie.

>>2913943
Not him but the avian respiratory system just completely BTFOs everything else in every category except durability in toxic atmosphere, and their renal system similarly is absurdly efficient (wastes way less water). The average bird's vision and ability to vocalize is way higher than the average mammal, and then there's the bit where most of them can fly. With how clever crows and ravens are, we're rather lucky (or unlucky, it would be cool as shit to have another sapient species around) that they didn't go full min/max into intelligence a couple million years ago like we did.
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>>2914146
Is that why they live so long even though they're quite small and move around a lot? I guess parrots are overall the most efficient birds around if that's the case. It's a shame pretty much every single animal out there is a predator for birds or they would conquer the world.
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>>2896048
Yeah, with my closed fist at a high velocity
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>>2914055
Punch daily
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>>2914055
Jiggle the toys in front of them, my conure goes full autist when something moves
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>>2914146
>With how clever crows and ravens are, we're rather lucky (or unlucky, it would be cool as shit to have another sapient species around) that they didn't go full min/max into intelligence a couple million years ago like we did.
Big hed is too much weight to carry while flying.
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>>2916368
Many birds of prey can take off carrying 5lbs. A big corvid carrying some extra brain wouldn't be severely impaired, as flight adaptation would follow the weight increase. Actually, they'd really need an extra couple of digits to make truly complex tools, so their wings would probably end up with a bit of claw back on the end like ancient theropods had. If that happened, they'd definitely end up only being able to glide and power very quick true flight. But as we've proven, a big brain trumps basically everything else.
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>>2914055
When did you get them? Maybe they are still a little shy.
Or they think your toys are boring. Try some of these things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPET9WZx1Mg
https://youtu.be/pkS6gGNXJDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Nl4AE6twg
More budgies are also almost always a good idea.
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>>2916368
>what is a sun conure
>what is a black palm cockatoo
>what is a kookaburra
Corvids have relatively small heads in the bird world.
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Bought my canary a swing today but so far he hasn't used it, what do
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>>2917316
Wait.
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>>2917339
Alright. Thanks
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What's a good bird to start with?
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>>2918104
Depends, what do you want the bird for?
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Look at this cheeky jackdaw
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is there much i can do if my cockatiel hates new toys? like she is terrified of anything new i put in her cage, but it feels so empty with only a couple of things to play with in there. I tried introducing them by leaving them near her cage for her to get used to, but still as soon as its in her cage she wont go in.
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>>2899611
depends on what she's looking for. If you want to spend alot of attention on it, a canary might not be a good choice. They're hard to tame and they're not too smart, they're more of a bird you keep in a cage to sing. Lovebirds on the other hand are all out for attention. If you've got the time, a lovebird is worth it, else just get a canary.
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>>2918227
try something more natural in her cage? like wooden sticks for her to chew on?
combine toys with snacks maybe
or switch up the interior of the cage (change up the layout of the walkways) and add one toy with snacks
perhaps make her fully get used to it first outside the cage and then hang it on the outside
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I saw a video where the dude had a bowl of lukewarm water for his canary to bathe in, should I do the same for mine? Should I put it in his cage? Should I keep it on a permanent basis and change the water every now and then?
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>>2918394
Most birds like to take a bath once in a while, but in my experience, it's not every day.
I don't know much about canaries, but my budgies prefer to bathe on/in big wet lettuce leaves, rather than just a bowl. They don't even eat it, they just prefer it as a bathing vector.
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>>2918397
Cheers. Thanks a lot
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Any falconers in this here thread?
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reminder that crows are good and smart birbs
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>>2918424
Corvids a best
See >>2918222
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>>2918227
1. No pressure, let them explore outside of the cage
2. Make sure a friend is near to make her feel secure.
3. Make the place interesting and easy to watch from a little further away
4. Bribe her with snacks you put near or on the toy
And just like >>2918249 said, baths and toys they can eat or gnaw on like fresh branches or straw are well-received.

Showers like this are great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1dYeo5dFXE
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>>2918826
Sorry, meant for >>2918227 obviously
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>>2918196
To not be lonely
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my house is just one big open space so i can't cook when my bird is out

i'm ao hungry
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>>2919020
how lonely are you?
lovebirds require alot of care but give alot of love back
budgies are easier and require less time but are still rewarding, less smart though but still alot of fun to play with a tamed one.
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I need some help with a "wild" bird issue.
>2003
>be some group of a-holes
>find newborn baby bird wandering around
>take it in
>feed it until adulthood
>turns out to be a blue jay
>it doesn't want to leave
>keep it until 2019
>decide they're bored of it
>one of the owners dates my sister and gets in contact with me
>basically they're going to release it unless I take it
>it's lived its whole life in captivity and will likely die in the wild(?)
>blue jays are protected by the migratory birds act and are illegal here so they're scared to send it to a shelter
>I have experience with birds and can keep him but would rather not if at all avoidable
What do I do?
Is there somewhere I can take him that could rehabilitate without assuming I got him to this point?
Would he really have little chance in the wild? I sort of assumed birds learned most of what they know from their parents and not genetics but I'm really not sure
I live in Oklahoma for reference.
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>>2919112
Take him in, there's basically no way to rehab him back to the wild. If you brought him to a bird rehab place, he'd end up as a permanent resident.
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Anyone here have experience cleaning rusty cages?
What paint is safe to use?
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>>2919113
Damn. I guess that makes sense considering how old he is. Thanks, I'll make sure he lives well if it really comes to that.
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Bird friend.
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My canary doesn't drink water often but he eats a lot, is that normal?
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>>2919673
Birds drink very small amounts of water. A couple of sips a day is usually enough.
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>>2919691
That's reassuring. Thank you
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>>2919092
not him but how are cockatiels for lonely people?
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Fed canary a banana and now it has been drinking water excessively, did I fuck up?
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>>2919085
Make a healthy salat for all of you.
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Will budgies shit on you?

I'm considering the idea of getting a budgie, had an old family friend who had some sort of bird and he would keep it on his shoulder, with long lines of shit running down his shirt, adding to the pile every few minutes. It's ok if there's an occasional accident but if interacting with a bird means CONSTANT getting covered in shit, I'll pass.
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>>2920188
Yes, sometimes it happens just when they decided to play with your hair but I don't think a normal bird will sit on your shoulder so long that a pile would build. Also you are allowed to gently shoo them away if you don't like it.
Remember they might shit everywhere they sit so put some old newspaper below playing and perching areas for an easy cleanup.
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>>2920188
There are really only two good ways to handle being shit on. 1: have some paper towels with you and wipe it up as it happens. 2: learn the timing and move your bird over a garbage can or toilet or paper towel just before they poop.
Their digestive system moves along at a regular pace. Budgies tend to poop about once every 15 minutes.
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How dangerous is cooking with bird?
Can you technically cock with normal pans (cast iron, steel) and proper ventilation?
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>>2920201
Non-stick is really bad for birds, but cooking with cast iron is fine.
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>>2920200
>15 minutes
That's acceptable imo. I'll keep doing some more research into ownership.
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>>2920188
>Will budgies shit on you?
Yes, and not even once.
I don't know about budgies, but with larger birds is is relatively easy to predict, when bird will do the needful, and move it, so line of fire don't cross you.
Also you can train bird to poo on demand in trashcan, or even in the loo.
>had an old family friend who had some sort of bird and he would keep it on his shoulder, with long lines of shit running down his shirt, adding to the pile every few minutes.
Looks like your family friend is a fan of designated shirt method.

Anyway, cleanness of your shirt depends only on you. Can't hold needful for long.
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>>2920204
What about open flames in well-vented area?
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>>2920231
Should be fine as long as you don't have retard birds who fly close to open flames.
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>>2920213
>you can train bird to poo on demand in trashcan, or even in the loo.
is this something even a budgie can be trained to do?
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>>2920238
Maybe.
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>>2919664
Anyone have any idea how old this bird is? About 3 weeks ago I looked after him for a few days after his mother lost him at night. This is him 3 weeks ago.
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I brought my bird this white thing that apparently has vitamins. Birds should peak through it or something with their beak but I noticed it had some rust as you can see from the pic due to a metallic part in the back of it that gets attached to the cage so I immediately removed the whole thing from the cage. My bird apparently tried some of it. Should I worry about him due to the rust?
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>>2920188
Mine shit on me sometimes but it isnt runny like that or anything. They are like soft warm poop pellets that get hard. Super easy to wash off.
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>>2920329
That boyo is nearly fledgling status. By this point he's probably ready to go.

>>2920360
If it was just cheap steel, he'll be fine.
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>>2920360
I guess they will be fine. I think you can still use limestone I guess.
>ovary enrich for zebra finch birds and lovebirds
>budgies on pic
Well, this thing is dodgy. Where is it made?



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