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So many threads about incels hating women, what terrifying and terrible path set you down this path? I’ve had great times and horrible times with them and still enjoy everything about them. Go convince me, make me see what you see.
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>>21003837
Not an incel, and don't blindly "hate" women, but marriage has definitely changed my tune about dating and relationships completely.

I now advise everyone to just go hardcore MGTOW, seems like that's the option that makes the most sense.
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>>21003851
The thing is, how soon did you jump into marriage? My ex girlfriend and I moved in months into knowing each other (4 months to be exact) later on we discovered we were not fit to be together, we were so different and we couldn’t see that before living together. I did not make that mistake twice, with my current one we dated a year and a half before us moving in together, and things are great so far, will I marry this girl? I don’t know, what I do know is that we’re fine at this moment. I’m sorry for what happened with your wife btw
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Basically society teaches u women sre these perfect beings that only care about personality and shit but knce u realise looks are way more important to get a girl it makes u angry, as an incel I don't actually hate women. Just myself and my genetics
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>>21003837
I don't hate women I just have a lot of issues (which are my fault) because 26 yo virgin that has no idea how to interact with them. But I realize those issues are noone's fault but mine, but when you crave something and you know you aren't good enough to get it it kinda fucks you up.
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>>21003837


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
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somebody get PeanutButter and MN in here. They're some of the worst women-haters on this board and I'd like to hear what they have to say about why they're so in denial about being gay.
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>>21003837
I don't. I'm lonely, sure, and it's been a couple of years since I've had a girlfriend, but I don't have anything bad to say about women.
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>>21003960
Have you lived under a rock? Or you basically surrounded yourself among other virgins for too long.

Women are not perfect, they shit and curse and fail as any other man. They desire men as much as men desire women but they’re not so obvious, it’s in OUR nature to aim for reproduction so, tall, good looking, fit, social skills are a requirement, to some girls not to all, but to many, I’ve dated, lived with, and almost married and still, never have I hated them
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>>21003851
MGTOW is a Jewish trick for white depopulation. I have yet to see one black dude that preaches MGTOW, only white ones.
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I used to hate women because I was generally unsuccessful at life and my lack of relationships felt, to me, like a sort of pinnacle of my failure. So while I was resentful in general, it was directed at women moreso than "everyone". Having attained success in life with regards to career, self-actualization, and general quality of life, that resentment/hatred just sort of faded away without me noticing, mostly while I was focusing heavily on work to the exclusion of all else. When I noticed I was still single, I found I no longer felt that hatred or bitterness towards women.

Still a kissless virgin, mind you, but I don't blame women for it. In retrospect, it was always an absurd stance to have.
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>>21003993
Yes! their hate towards women most of the times comes from jealousy and self hate for not being enough to anyone
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>>21004017
Finally! Congratulations on the realization brother! I’m sure someone will eventually discoverer how great you are in many things, not perfect at all, but who is right!?
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>>21004015
Jewish tricks are a meme
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>>21003837
I dont hate women, I just wish they'd stop being retarded, shallow, and bitchy. Oh and at least acknowledge that their lives are multiple times easier than men's. Especially in dating.

Dating:
>doesnt matter if a girl is fat, skinny, short, tall, ugly, pretty, popular, unpopular, etc. there'll always be a guy who's actively into her
>dozens of men working their ass off to impress\entertain each woman, even if she's not good looking
>it being practically IMPOSSIBLE for women to actually be lonely, as they always have people showing interest in them.

Retarded:
>stupid "woman logic" they have
>unable to take criticism
>unable to think logically
>immediately blame men, never themselves or other women
>among other points


Bitchy
>retarded mind games
>shallow in general
>only actively attracted to tall\buff\handsome\rich\popular\dominant guys
>always looking for a reason to be upset
>never actually happy with the shit they have
>if men lower their guard and tell women about their problems, the woman is IMMEDIATELY turned off and disgusted by him

Also
>they have everybody's fucking support but still act like victims
>everyone else ALSO confirms that they're huge victims when in reality they have it way easier than men

I just wanna be loved, cuddle, and do dumb romantic shit. Is that asking so much?
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I don't hate them but I've yet to see a reason to like them either.
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>>21004010
>They desire men as much as men desire women
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to fatness in men.
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to shortness in men.
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>>21004017
>>21004031
>haha ignore that all your problems still exist. women are still shallow and wont date you because of a few imperfections, but at least you're not an EEEEVIILLL incel, right? Haha
Can we stop being reddit please?
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>>21003951
Definitely didn't jump into it, was dating for years. But the whole thing started to change as we got more into it. Like we both just drifted apart.

>>21004015
I actually think that creating a family and having kids is the real "trick" to worry about. Marriage and children have very little upside, but the risk is enormous. There's no reason to do any of it.
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>>21004039
Of course they live easier lives, we all know that. Name something we don’t know, also
>I just wanna be loved, cuddle, and do dumb romantic shit. Is that asking so much?

That’s the reason you resent them, they get things so easily yet you can’t... you’re not attractive enough to get a girl, so you resent that case closed.
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>>21004031
>I’m sure someone will eventually discoverer how great you are in many things, not perfect at all, but who is right!?
Probably not since I ended up in a nearly exclusively male line of work and don't have friends or hobbies outside of it, so I just don't meet women, but I've come to terms with that and it's only a minor (if persistent) dissatisfaction in life.
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>>21004041
Maybe if you get out of your cave you’ll see it, also get better with your social skills that’s all you need
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>>21004086
>you’re not attractive enough to get a girl, so you resent that case closed.
You're doing the reddit thing of trying to project "le incel" traits onto other users in an attempt to discredit them.
Anyway, my problem with the situation isnt that I'm to unattractive to get women. My problem is that there's such a large disparity between men and women. Men are capable of liking all types of women, to the point where women practically cant be lonely. Meanwhile, if you're not tall\buff\handsome and a little autistic, you're completely fucked.
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Being critical of women does not translate into hating them. Women are not immune to criticism
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>>21004045
Again, they’re not so obvious, fatness and shortness is a niche just as with men, I feel disgusted with lards (men or women) and ugly chicks, do they get the attention of desperate men yes.
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>>21003851
MGTOW is for losers who can't cultivate their own identity.

If you need to join this cult its because you suck
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>>21004049
Not at all, he just stopped bitching because the life is unfair
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>>21004066
Drifting apart is part of life man, it even happens with friends imma righ? Don’t sweat it, it just wasn’t meant to be
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>>21004107
>fatness and shortness is a niche just as with men
Except it's not at all niche with men.
Google "bbw", plenty of guys into fat\obese chicks.
Google "petite", plenty of guys into short skinny chicks.
Google "amazon", plenty of guys into tall muscular girls.
Also conversations with guys IRL confirm that guys do indeed have different tastes. Like big vssmall boobs, or boobs vs ass, or body vs personality, etc.

Now, if you wanna do something similar for women, what can you do? You tell me.
Where are all the women into fatness in guys. Show me literally ONE woman like that.
Same thing for shortness in guys.
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>>21004105
Totally, criticism towards women is fine, but there are some who really hate them and that’s what I’m trying to grasp, the why there’s hate
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>>21004109
Shaming them won't make the real social issues affecting men go away. It's sad how "man up" and "walk it off" are so casually given as responses to men.

>>21004114
Maybe you're right. People grow and change. I'm just struggling to figure out if I should stick with it.
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>>21004117
>Show me literally ONE woman like that.
woah you like can't do that over the internet

checkmate Incels
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>>21004131
I'm a believer in equality
i shame everyone for being stupid
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>>21004101
Dude I’m 5’7’’ not tall, not buff, actually I do have a beer belly, I’m 5-6/10 according to /soc/ so not handsome at all, you need social skills, surround yourself with women, and stop being horny al, the fucking time.
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>>21004118
>and that’s what I’m trying to grasp, the why there’s hate
The only difference between "I hate women" and "I dont hate women but they're retarded" is the realization that women dont think for themselves, and are too stupid for basic logic.

People hate women because they're treating them like adult mature beings capable of understanding Right and Wrong. Then, they see women do obviously reprehensible, evil, or flat out self-destructive shit, and naturally reach the conclusion that those women are shitty, thus disliking\hating them.

Afterwards, once you realize that women are just naturally retarded, not evil, you stop hating them and start simply wishing they'd stop being retarded.
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>>21004132
>woah you like can't do that over the internet
That's the thing. They'll always use that excuse to rationalize their stance.
You can show them 1000 men who love fat chicks, and ask them to show you 1 woman who likes fat guys, and they'll absolutely refuse.
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>>21004010
>They desire men as much as men desire women
This is straight up untrue, there is a reason why men are the main ones who pursue, initiate and start relationships, and why women are usually the first ones to get bored in marriage. Women don't need the same stream of continuous sex and being in a relationship than men, they do better by themselves.
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>>21004117
No one likes fatties dude. Natural selection will end you all, same with midgets
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>>21004137
Is this some sort of humble bragging that redditors do?
"Heh, I'm totally not attractive at all, but I had 0 trouble finding a gf. Just go outside bro, worked for me XDDD"
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>>21004145
the problem here is you assume all women are the same and all men are the same.

most people are stupid (that includes you) and you've mostly interacted with stupid women because the intelligent ones don't really want to talk to you. So it seems from your perspective that all women are stupid. Way to go retard.
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>>21004158
its clearly an anecdote to show incels that their absolutist logic is fundamentally flawed.
but that might have been too deep for you to grasp.
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>>21004095
I don't live in a cave. What's there to like?
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>>21004158
If I could, not only me, but many in the board, is it really that difficult? Can’t you better yourself? Do you expect pornstars just to throw themselves at you.? How fuckin retarded you must be?
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>>21004152
>No one likes fatties dude
Google "bbw". Plenty of MEN actively like fatties. It's women who have the same shallow "tastes".
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>>21004161
>you assume all women are the same
Okay, then show me 1 woman who isnt shallow.
Or 1 woman who likes fatness in guys.
Or 1 woman who likes shortness in guys.
I'd be willing to change my mind if I actually saw women not be shallow.
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>>21004167
>show incels that their absolutist logic is fundamentally flawed.
If absolutist logic is flawed, then surely you're capable of finding a woman who is into fatness\shortness in guys, right?
Surely if it's not absolute, it shouldnt be too hard to find a woman like that, right?
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>>21004180
If it's so easy, why don't you lay down the steps?
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>>21004181
Man fatties. Sorry my bad, there are some women who will actually fuck midgets, are you telling me they ar better than a random short guy?
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>>21004196
I'm not saying it's impossible, but you'd be REALLY fucking hard pressed to find a woman who gets turned on by short guys\midgets.
So hard pressed, in fact, that people have yet to show me a woman like that.
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Really bored at work, so I might as well answer this kinda stupid question.

Hatred of women (and men, really) comes mostly because of sexuality, obviously. Everyone is bound by pretty much the same desires, you know, to eat delicious food, to have a warm place to sleep, to have fun with friends, to experiencie sexual fullfillment, etc. All of these are basic wants of a human, and if you are incapable of getting that which you desire, you will get understandably angry. And when that anger festers, it always turns to anger towards some concept or group. Antisemites hate the Jews because they believe they control the world and are on a crusade to destroy their life, culture and descendants. Male incels hate women because they believe they are denied an important part of life because of something they can't change (genetics related things for example), women incels because they believe that men are shallow and violent creatures that live to torment them, etc.

So OP, hatred towards women is the same as hatred towards any other group. It's hatred that originated from emotional immaturity
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>>21004200
So you rather find a girl like that than actually work on yourself? Even to get a better lifestyle? Stop being a fat fuck, your excuse is no one likes s fat guy? A short guy? Boo fucking hoo, no one likes you well you’re the one who’s wrong not the fucking world
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>>21004219
How do I grow a few inches? I would like to be 6''.
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>>21004219
You don't sound too bright. How do you work on your height?
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>>21004227
Not your height dumbass, weight...
I’m 5’7’’ I know I can’t grow more, and still I don’t really give a shit, there are women who will like me and others who won’t... I’m not fat, I do have a beer belly and still got girls to like me, you are tho one who’s not getting it lad. Change what you can and accept the things you cant
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>>21004219
>So you rather find a girl like that than actually work on yourself?
Not necessarily. I'm 100% in agreement with bettering myself. I work out multiple times a week, eat healthy, and all that gay shit.
The problem is that, if a girl doesnt like you before that, but likes you after that, then that means she doesnt actually like you as a person, she just likes you for shallow reasons.
For the record, I'm short and ugly, not fat. Have been working out for 4 years and have a fair amount of definition.
>your excuse is no one likes s fat guy? A short guy?
No, my "excuse" is that men have varying preferences in women, but women only like the one type of guy. Tall buff handsome, rich dominant popular.
If you think I'm wrong, show me a woman who escapes that definition.
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>>21004117
>Where are all the women into fatness in guys.
"dad bod"
>Same thing for shortness in guys.
look at crystal.cafe or lolcow, they talk about liking short guys all the time
retard
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>>21004191
my gf likes my pudgy body
i don't get it, but i am happy about it.


>>21004185
see
>>21004132
another stunning example of incel logic
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>>21004228
You’re the one who can’t see lad, I’m not saying grow a fire inches, I’m saying get fit, stop waiting for the perfect girl who’s looking for someone like you... change to be someone better
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>>21004242
>"dad bod"
That's just one of those "body positivity" "feelgood" bullshit terms. They dont mean women would actually be attracted to that.
>look at crystal.cafe or lolcow, they talk about liking short guys all the time
Doesnt mean they'd date a guy like that. Talk is cheap, especially on the internet.
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>>21004240
Are those examples enough? >>21004242
Or >>21004247
Testimony enough?
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>>21004253
>crystal.cafe
those are just manlets larping as girls who like manlets
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>>21003837
I hate 3D women because 2D women are superior.
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>>21004253
Man you’re in such denial it’s sad you asked for examples and you got examples and still those are not enough for you...
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>>21004242
>look at crystal.cafe or lolcow, they talk about liking short guys all the time
Short celebrities, sure.
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>>21004247
>Anyone who disagrees or proves me wrong is incel
Brilliant. Truly the apogee of human intellect.
EVEN IF you're telling the truth, that would just be a unicorn.
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>>21004261
No. I want a woman talking about enjoying a guy's fat gut, and dating a fat guy.
Alternatively, a woman talking about enjoying a guy's short stature, and dating a short guy.
Either one of those would greatly help changing my mind.
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>>21004278
Is he wrong tho? Are you not an incel? Do you not hate women?
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>>21004015
>I have yet to see one black dude that preaches MGTOW

the fuck are you talking about? Blacks need MGTOW the most and at least the smart ones are going MGTOW.
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>>21004272
>denial
Saying "humans have wings, you're just in denial" doesnt count. You need actual proof.
I mentioned BBW, Petite, and Amazon as three pieces of proof that men are attracted to all sorts of women.
Now YOU show me proof that women are attracted to anything other than tall\handsome\buff guys. And not just bullshit "he said she said".
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>>21004275
>DUUUUDE! All you have to do as a short guys is become a celebrity! Just do it duuuuude! See? Women dont care that you're short!
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>>21004281
I am not an incel and I do not hate women.
You, however, trying to slap "inkell" and "womyn hater" on me, are undoubtedly a redditor.
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>>21004293
your entire world view is built on fallacious arguments.
what a sad existence
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>>21004309
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to fatness in men.
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to shortness in men.
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>>21004319
Erica Schmidt Married to that midget of game of thrones.

Steffiana de la Cruz married to Kevin James

Time for you to play the “They’re famous” card
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>>21004293
Not a redditor, just perhaps too normie for your view, not so attached to the computer like you and not so salty
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>>21004341
>Time for you to play the “They’re famous” card
Well no shit they're famous. Famous and rich. No shit you can get women if you're a rich celebrity.
Also, you didnt prove that those women are sexually attracted to fatness\shortness in those men. You just proved that they can tolerate those traits in exchange for being with a rich and famous guy.
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>>21004010
>tall, good looking, fit, social skill are a requirment
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>>21004355
As i said, no mention will ever be good enough for you. if I google niche fat guys or midgets it will be the same shit with you... they tolerate because they’re getting paid... dude it’s sad, but well natural selection is, at least your shitty genes won’t get far
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>>21004195
Almost an hour has passed, he must be writing a book right now for us.
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>>21004373
"I cant disprove you, so instead of ackowledging your point, I'll just throw insults."
>at least your shitty genes won’t get far
You're on an obscure board on 4chan discussing women's dating preferences and acting like a redditor calling people "incel" and "sad". I'm pretty sure you're in the same boat my nibba. You're just desperately trying to pretend you're not.
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>>21004039
>I just wanna be loved, cuddle, and do dumb romantic shit. Is that asking so much?
Yikes sweety, just look at this entitlement! This is why you're incel! Try respecting women and maybe, just maybe you will get a gf.
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>>21004117
based and redpilled post, redditfags are seething
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>>21004185
Suddenly redditfags have no answer.
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>>21004212
>women incels
Mythical creatures. Show me one woman who is an incel. ONE. You won't be able to do that.
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>>21004195
1. Stop going on incel forums
2. Stop going on /r9k/
3. Stop identifying as an incel
4. Get a haircut, shave, get a job, hit the gym
5. Get hobbies and friends
6. Become a better person instead of an angry basement-dweller

That's it.
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>>21004421
And when you are shown one, you will deny it. You've decided they don't exist, so no amounts of facts and logic will convince you. You're an incel, you're immune to facts. You're deeply indoctrinated into the incel cult.
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>>21004235
>Wow, that's all?! I didn't know it is so easy!
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>>21004414
They also have no answer when you ask them to show you a woman who wants a bf but has 0 guys interested in her. Women are only lonely\single by choice.
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>>21004422
Redditfags LOVE spouting the same platitudes over and over and over again, regardless of how many of those things a guy has done.
And even if he did do all of them, the redditor will ALWAYS without fail continue to blame the guy. They'll never ever put any blame on women being even a little shallow.
Pathetic.
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>>21004242
>look at crystal.cafe or lolcow, they talk about liking short guys all the time
retard
Those are guys LARPing.
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>>21004422
>Stop going on incel forums
Never done this.
>Stop going on /r9k/
Only been there a few times, it sucks.
>Stop identifying as an incel
Never done this.
Get a haircut, shave, get a job, hit the gym
Doing all of these.
>Get hobbies and friends
Have these.
>Become a better person instead of an angry basement-dweller
'Better' is kind of vague, but I'm neither angry nor do I dwell in basements. Can you be more specific?
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>>21003837
It's simple: They hate women because they are babies and some girls hurt their feelings or rejected them.
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>>21004279
Based, redditfags will not find one example in a million years.
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>>21004438
Dont bother. You'll never be "good enough" for these redditor faggots. Even if you 100% do all the things they suggest, they'll still call you an "inkel loozer virgin", because they're completely incapable of blaming women for anything.
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>>21004444
Nice quads.
It's funny how redditors go quiet really quickly when asked to actually present proof instead of just going "INCEL INCEL ANGRY TOXIC"
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>>21004373
>Seething redditor can't stand getting defeated by a "stupid inkell".
Lovely.
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>>21004432
Because incels actually never do any of those things. They're too afraid.
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>>21004458
It's funny how incels go into apeshit rage as soon as asked for proofs.
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>>21004422
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>>21004464
See >>21004438
And then promptly see >>21004451. Proof that you're not interested in giving advice or helping. You just wanna go "INCEL INCEL TOXIC ANGRY GRRR"
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>>21004467
>asked for proofs
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to fatness in men.
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to shortness in men
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>>21004474
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=women+attracted+to+fat+men
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>>21004493
No no. I want you to show me.
If women arent shallow, then it should be fairly easy to find ONE example, right?
Surely there's one woman who breaks the stereotype, right?
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>>21004425
No, show me anything you can find. The only thing I require is evidince not to be anectodal since if it is you could be making it up for all I know.
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>>21004499
That link literally shows you, are you blind?
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>>21004458
>Nice quads.
Thanks man, I didn't even notice them. My first quads.
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>>21004467
You like reddit, right? Check out r/blackpillscience.
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>>21004504
Show me an example of an actual woman like that.
Why is this so hard for you? If women arent shallow, why is finding a woman with different tastes such a hassle for you?
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>>21004516
>science
Is it full of meme graphs, unsourced claims taken as facts, and studies that have nothing to do with the subject but posters use mental gymnastics to justify their beliefs?
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>>21003837
I hate women becuase im extremely jealous of them, despite them being practically completely useless to society they can easily obtain the one thing I have always wanted in my life(companionship)
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>>21004504
He’s not going to acknowledge...
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>>21004520
>reeeee I am right about everything prove me wrong with just one example
>Okay, here's an example
>duurrrrrrr that doesn't count
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>>21004521
Post in >>21004425 says
>no amounts of facts and logic will convince you. You're an incel, you're immune to facts.
And now you're on your toes ready to immediately deny proof presented to you.
The fucking irony.
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>>21004530
You didnt give me an example. You gave me a google search.
I could very easily just type "aliens exising on earth". That doesnt prove the existance of aliens. The question remains:
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to fatness in men.
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to shortness in men.
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>>21004521
It's full of links to scientific articles you moron.
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>>21004540
Blackpilled science is a meme dude
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>>21004540
Can you give me one example? Things like the "scientific article" that goes "women on tinder smash a lot!"? Or the one that says "tinder experiments if you are not hot do not even try"?
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Stop fighting OP, incels are like flat earthers they want to belong somewhere so they start using the pseudo science to “prove” their point
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>>21004561
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to fatness in men.
Name one woman who is sexually attracted to shortness in men.
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Unfortunately no, when I try to include even one link I get a message
>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
But just check out the main page of r/blackpillscience and look for "springer", "wiley", "sciencedirect", etc. in links of articles.
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>>21004565
Name one man who's sexually attracted to short fat women. They exist - just as there are females that exist who also like that.
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>>21004565
I’m not playing your game my man, there were several anons, some showed “dad bods” or crystal.cafe or lolcow, another posted his testimony, other guy posted celebrities, the thing is, none will satisfy you, because you don't want to be satisfied with those answers, as I said, as blind as the flat earth soc.
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I hate women who like pathetic guys. Any woman who says they genuinely prefer deviant men like fatasses, manlets, lanklets, etc. Probably have screws loose or are themselves pathetic to the point of not being able to settle down with a proper adult. It's one thing if you find a guy like that and like in spite of their shortcomings, it's another thing to actually fetishize those short comings. I also don't like women who take advantage of double standards or have no ambition.
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>>21004587
>Name one man who's sexually attracted to short fat women.
See, using that same question with men doesnt work, because it's common knowledge that guys have all sorts of tastes.
You want fat chicks? Google "bbw". You want short chicks? Google "shortstack" for fat, and "petite" for skinny.
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>>21004591
>I cant prove you wrong, so I'll just bail on the discussion
Imagine my shock. Redditors, white knights, and thots are always 100% incapable of backing up what they say.
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>>21004015
>>>/pol/ is thataway
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>>21004604
You asked for examples and they were given, but none of those are good enough
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>>21004623
Because you didnt show me an example of a girl being sexually attracted to a guy's fat gut.
It's extremely easy to find guys sexually attracted to a girl's fat gut, but if you reverse the genders, it's borderline impossible.

That's why I'm asking. Hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe plenty of women DO have preferences in men besides tall\hot\buff. But you need to show me, or else I cant be convinced.

Plenty of men like BBWs, petite girls, shortstacks, amazons, etc. Now it's women's turn. Where are all the women with "different" tastes?
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>>21004598
And yet when you google "women sexually attracted to fat men" and get lots of results, you somehow angrily deny those results exist. But you're far too deep to see this. You're beyond help.
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>>21004623
But all you have provided is
>dad bods: search results return only articles written by males, there is no actual women talking about how they like dad bods (preferrably on some forum, if women even use those)
>two imageboards that are known to be males-larping-as-females websites
Did I miss something?
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>>21004647
You only showed me articles and what >>21004650 said. You need to show me actual women, dude.
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>>21004639
Ok, I’m omitting this guys name, he’s short, he’s dark skinned, and he’s fat, and still he got a girl, and managed to get her pregnant, I know this couple, I didn’t want to post this example because he’s someone I know, but you won’t be satisfied with anything so, here goes nothing.
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>>21004670
Now that’s the guy with the baby, as up the girl, she’s a pale, petite girl, both study medicine (I know, the irony) but still, he did it, he’s with her, he fucked her and he’s black, short, and fat, I know him, but I thought It would be disrespectful but f-it here he is
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>>21004692
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>>21004670
>>21004692
I appreciate the effort, sincerely. BUT you're missing the point of what I'm asking.
I'm not asking for women who happen to BE with "low value" guys.
I'm asking for women who are actively sexually attracted to "fat" and "short".
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>>21004698
Why would they be with them unless they are sexually attracted to them? You are grasping at straws here. You're way too afraid of being proven wrong, because it would shatter your beliefs and your entire identity as an incel.
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>>21004698
>I'm asking for women who are actively sexually attracted to "fat" and "short".
Dude see, that’s why I didn’t want to post this guy, it wouldn’t matter what we posted, you’re not accepting any example that is presented ONE GIRL, you asked for one girl, well there’s one. And it’s not enough for you, as someone else said, it’s a niche, will you find one, yes you can find some girls. Not everyone, just like not everyone likes bbw or midgets.
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>>21004698
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>>21004711
Because she could simply be approaching the "30yo wall" or "marriage age" and just tolerates the guy's flaws in exchange for stability. There's enough leddit deadbedroom posts for this to sound reasonable, yes?
>You're way too afraid of being proven wrong, because it would shatter your beliefs and your entire identity as an incel.
It's kind of silly for you to keep repeat this every post. Cant you just discuss ideas back and forth without going "grr incel incel angry toxic" every time?
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>>21004721
How do you know that woman is actually sexually attracted to the guy's fat?
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>>21004733
You were shown exactly what you asked for and continue to deny it. There is no logic to your thinking. Why do you so badly want to deny the truth? Are you seriously too chickenshit to say "my bad, I was wrong, they do exist"?
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>>21004736
What would she be attracted to, he does not come from a wealthy family, he’s not fit, he’s not white, he’s not tall, and yet she’s with him, she’s sexually attracted enough to have sex, to do it without protection and getting pregnant... should I continue?
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>>21004740
Again, I never asked for a woman who tolerates a guy's flaws and is dating a guy who happens to be fat\short.
I specifically asked for an example of a woman who is actively sexually attracted to "fatness" and "shortness" in a guy.
I said "fatNESS" and "shortNESS" instead of "fat" and "shorts" SPECIFICALLY so you understood I'm NOT asking for a girl who just tolerates a guy's flaws.

Nobody is denying that "low value" guys can get a gf. I'm asking for an example of a woman actively sexually attracted to "fatness" and "shortness".
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>>21004751
>and yet she’s with him
Have you ever heard the phrase "beta provider"?
Her being married\dating the guy does not mean she's actively sexually attracted to fat\short.
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>>21004760
>ALPHA FUCKS
>BETA BUX
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>>21004751
Just stop my man, he’s blind
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>>21004762
>Yes yes hahaha lefunnie inkell science le meme
You could say that, OR we could actually discuss this as adults.
It is not uncommon for a woman who is promiscuous in her 20s to decide to "settle down" with a "good man" as she approaches 30.
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>>21004031
You are scum. Don't patronise people like that or you'll get the shit beaten out of you one day
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>>21004770
I'm a uni student, roommates friend straight up married a dude in his fifties and she's only in her twenties, half the girls on tinder add cash app or venmo
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>>21004770
It is not uncommon, in incel cuck fantasies. In the real world it doesn't really happen. Because contrary to your fantasies, there are no "beta providers". Betas will remain beta. Alphas will provide.
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>>21004937
Like Jeremy Meeks?
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>>21004522
Ayyy fuc boi
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>29 posters
>151 replies
Yikes
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Because im a fucking dicklet with 5 inch and I can't satisfy a woman in bed
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Humans are not the best creatures in general.

Your simple minded if you think a lack of ethics is exclusive to women.

Gender loyalists are fucking retarded, ie womens right activists, mens right activists etc.
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>>21003837
none of them hate women, the fact you think that is hilarious. Who do you think incels plan on having sex with? some alien third gender that look like females? I don't know the whole story since im not an incel but im pretty sure they like me just hate a sub-set of females who just happen to be quite a bit of them.

Pic posted is the type I hate, these types ruined dating for adult men ruined the sanctity of sex and ruined long term relationships since they all think they should act like whores constantly since to them having fun is more important that anything. They're hedonistic ways make me wary of sex with any female since they could be used up whores who just pluck my hearstrings with more sexual partners than India has people.

I know you're not a man OP so imagine for a second some used up slut comes to you tugs on your heart strings makes this whole thing sound like it'll last awhile then ditches you cause the honeymoon phase ended. You'd start to be a bit cynical to.
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Women are fine but they mature slower than men. It is a meme that it is the other way. That is just their bodies their minds take roughly the same time but a bit slower.
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Because women are social, collectively-minded creatures and their general values are a direct reflection of the society they live in at large.
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I want somebody I can torture women deserve abuse



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