Can a female still be considered a virgin if she got fingered previously?I'm currently in a relationship who makes me genuinely happy and stuff. We talked about our previous sexual encounters and she admitted to having done a lot of stuff with her ex, short of penetration and anything oral or anal. I became really salty and jealous that she almost wasted herself on her piece of shit ex who ended up cheating on her. She told me not to worry, and that she's only mine, and that when we meet again, in about two months, I could one up all of her exes by crossing the line and spending an entire night with her on my bed.But the thing is, she admitted that she got fingered as well, which I didn't give much thought of until now. I still love her to bits, and I'm still gonna fuck the life out of her and marry her but,Is she still considered a virgin even if she got fingered?Does the hymen tear or rip when you get fingered?I know I can still one up her exes by all sorts of penetrations, but it still kinda fucks me up knowing she was fingered and that her hymen might've been torn, and the fact that she might not even be considered a virgin anymore due to being fingered. Help me bros.TL;DR- My "virgin" girlfriend did everything shy of oral sex and penetration, but she was fingered. Does this not make her a virgin anymore? Does fingering rip the hymen? How deep must the finger go to actually rip her hymen and/or make her bleed?
>>20905567Virginity is a completely made up concept. Hymen is not a sign of virginity. You can still have your hymen after being penetrated, you can not have it despite never having been penetrated.Up to you to decide if she's virgin or not by your personal metrics, there's no hard scientific facts about this.Fingering could or could not break the hymen. If you want an intact hymen, you can just take a look.
>>20905567I dunno, but a christian girl said she would do gay stuff with me if I accuse my boyfriend of rape publicly, this is a good deal, right?
Each girl is different anon, the extremes of hymen "strenght" being 'ripped by casually stretching' to 'needs surgery to cut it'. In most cases, the hymen doesn't rip and bleed, it just goes to the side kinda and it stretches. What matters is width not lenght, and depends on the position of fingering.In your case, end your relationship with the girl and let her find a better man then her cheating ex and an obsessed guy.
>>20905567If you are this stupid, please leave your gf so a man can actually date her and procreate. Well, I guess don't worry about it. She will leave you for being beta once she gets a little older and figures out what a real man can do for her.
>>20905585It isn't entirely a made up concept as you lose the ability to soul tie with anyone else once you have your first time with someone.T b h, yeah, hymen doesn't matter as long as she never had a dick inside her, but holy hell it still agitates me and fucks me up knowing that I might never get to experience tearing her hymen. By some metrics, having a finger inside the pussy is equivalent to losing your virginity.By some metrics, it's only the dick penetration that matters.And by some metrics having a ripped hymen due to fingering or penetration, means you aren't a virgin anymore, whereas if it was during masturbation or any horse/bike riding, gymnastics then you're still a virgin.I just don't know what to believe.>>20905605No, dump your boyfriend and kill yourself, degenerate. >>20905612Yeah width does matter a lot, but doesn't the length matter too? A knuckle or two deep, and it could be torn or stretched, and in some cases lesds to bleeding, as I've read.Also, she's just as obsessed over me, the only difference been I have a lot of mental insecurities while she has physical insecurities. So far I'm the only person who could handle her and not just dump her despite her issues, so I have no plans other than being her last.>>20905632Okay turbo Chad, calm your testosterone down, I'm talking about wether if she'd still be considered a virgin or not as there are many variables and notions on what losing your virginity actually means, and I'm having trouble deciding which to believe in, but hey, you do you.
>>20905679>It isn't entirely a made up concept as you lose the ability to soul tie with anyone else once you have your first time with someone.This is simply untrue. Post any scientific, peer reviewed source that proves it.>I just don't know what to believe.Whatever you want to.You're literally debating about the color of angels pubic hair. It doesn't matter.Virginity is whatever you want it to be.
>>20905679A big part of soultying is the absorption of DNA from the semen, so that’s not a huge issue.
>>20905721>the absorption of DNA from the semenThere is a side of me which thinks you're trolling, and a side of me that heard this thing being said seriously so many times that has lost all hope.Just in case - you do not absorb semen from sperm.
>>20905721LOL never heard that one before. That's funny. I am in awe of the hoops people jump through to believe what they want so they don't need to change themselves. This is a classic "Put two people in a room who think they are Jesus" experiment. They will actually both insist they are Jesus and will both jump to extreme lengths to justify what they think is truth. You are no different. I hope you get the help you so desperately need.
>>20905690I doubt there's any peer reviewed sources that talk about this. I speak of this from a purely spiritual and metaphysical sense, and the only other articles I could find on the surface internet about this is cringy Christian blabbering.Yeah you're right actually, I'm just looking for some affirmation and advice, I could still say that since no penetration occured, she's a virgin.Although it does fucking sting though, knowing that she's done so much shit with him, despite knowing that I clearly have no right to be salty or hurt over the past.>>20905721That actually makes sense. I did read a research paper about how the sperm digs into the brain and how the female begins to take on characteristics and traits of who's ever DNA she got into her.But I still feel like a penetration, i.e the first time would also bond you as it's not something to be taken lightly.But since my girl did neither, I think I'm just stressing too much over the past.
>>20905804>I speak of this from a purely spiritual and metaphysical senseSo it is, indeed, a completely made up concept.I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting this, just that it's completely made up.>>20905804>I did read a research paper about how the sperm digs into the brain and how the female begins to take on characteristics and traits of who's ever DNA she got into her.No you didn't. You can find traces of male DNA in women's body due to the fact that they grow fetuses inside them and some stem cells from the fetus can move into the mother's body. They don't change their traits anyway.This has NOTHING to do with men they fucked.Any woman who had sex also has the potential to have had a pregnancy. Also the "male DNA" in sperm isn't even male DNA.God I'm so tired of this site.
why does it matter if she's a virgin or not?
>>20905567As if being stuck for life with a mongoloid subcreature like a channer is a dream of anyone's.
>>20905831Virgins are better for long-term relationships and won't compare you to the past partners. Plus, she won't have the urge to cheat, quite logical, you fucking retard.
>>20905828I was in the middle of typing a similar response. >God I'm so tired of this site.I can agree, but I still come here for the luls. Just realize you actually can't help anyone and know that most of these posts are LARP. It makes it easier to see the humor. I can make up some random shit too and make a thread. In fact, I have. And have had a good time with it. I mostly feel sorry for people who come here for genuine advice. They need friends and confidants and don't have them in their life, so they come here in the hopes to sort some shit out.
>>20905585My hymen literally grew back when I didnt have sex for a year
>>20905876>Plus, she won't have the urge to cheat, quite logicalErm...
>>20905876>won't compare you to the past partnersYeah, they'll compare your to their fantasy of others. Good luck with that.
>>20905897>>20905930Still better than kissing the mouth of someone who's had dick on their lips before or fucking an used hole.
>>20905876>>20905936That's some pretty fucking twisted logic there dude. You need to work on your insecurities.
>>20905936So you're never getting your dick sucked and only fucking her once?
>>20905936You also had your mothers pussy on your lips. Pretty nasty stuff.
>>20905978And got kissed by his mother, who sucked his father's cock. He basically had his father's dick rubbed all over his face.
>>20905567>I'm still gonna fuck the life out of her and marry herYou got those switched around, right? Or is it literally OK for her to lose her virginity before marriage as long as she """plans""" on marrying you?
>>20905679>the ability to soul tieDid I wake up in an anime today?
>>20905567First of all, you're a piece of shit. Second of all, you're a piece of shit. Third, the hymen sometimes doesn't rip even during sex, and I know girls that have broken their hymens on balance beams, so you're SoL on using that as a determiner of virginity.And as far as virginity goes, the definition is so vague that it could be anything from the first time you orgasm to the first time you do full penetration.>almost wasted herselfGod, please smite these retards that don't understand why virginity means anything.
>>20905804Did you grow up in a shed or something?
>>20906058He was at least educated in one.>this is your brain on home-school sex ed
>>20905567The pure state of modern males. Your ego is so fragile you get jealous over an event that didn't even happen. Why are you pretending like this has anything to do with symbolic breaking of the hymen and everything to do with your own fragility? You do know hymens break for a lot of reasons other than sexual activity, right?
>>20905690There is some merit to "soul tying", but it actually has to do with your brain linking a specific person with oxytocin release after you have sex for the first time (known in the furry community as "virgin cling"), not metaphysical pseudoscientific bullshit.
>>20905804See>>20906067And no. Semen just fucking dies when it's in the uterus and doesn't find an egg.
>>20906067Oxytocin is released every time you have sex, no matter if it happens with your first or your 85 partner. It is released when you cuddle with anybody. It is released when you have children and when you breastfeed them.Thinking that the only person you can bond with is the first person you have sex with is silly.If oxytocin worked like people on this site seem to think and it made you love only your first lover, mothers would only love their first kid.
>>20906081While true, it does actually form a tighter association with that person if you lose your virginity to them. The reason why the furry community is relevant here is because they're so liberal about sex that they don't really ever cut people out of their life -- that way you tend to see furries continue to have unpursued feelings for who they lost their virginity to, years and years after most people would be forgotten.It's also not the only person they can bond with, just a bond that lasts longer than usual and tends to stick around.
>>20906104I'm sorry but no. Furries are not scientific evidence.There's no magical virginity spell. Most people get over their first love after their relationship with them ends. People don't forget about them because we don't have brain damage, they don't completely stop caring for them (just like any other important exes, it's very unlikely that you're completely indifferent to someone you deeply cared for) but most women don't love their first boyfriend years after they broke up with them because he took her virginity.And oxytocin doesn't work that way. I already said it this so many times.
>>20906067Oxytocin gets released from gambling, binge eating, drug use, and a whole host of thrill-seeking behavior. What you describe is addiction, and some people have more of a problem with it than others.
>>20906147That's dopamine, anon. Which is the other neurotransmitter that is released during sex.MDMA stimulates oxytocin release, that's the only drug that does so as far as I know.
>>20905567>Not being alpha enough to replace his cock stain with yoursin 10 years you will be cuckold.
>>20905993Well don't forget his dad was likely kissed by his great grandmother, who sucked and fucked his great grandfather. My dude literally has had an entire lineage of cock on his face, which gets exponentially larger with every parent generation.Hundreds of thousands of human dicks all over his face.What a fag lmao.
>>20905679>It isn't entirely a made up concept as you lose the ability to soul tie with anyone else once you have your first time with someone.AHAHAhAAHAHAHAHAHAYou utter faggot little Disney princess nobody will ever love you the way you want, but not because people don't love, but because you're emotionally retarded
>>20906104I literally don't remember the name of the first girl I fucked.I have a gf now but the girl my heart longs for is some bitch from Nevada I met on tinder that dumped me after a few months then moved back to Nevada. Other girls I've dated don't even compare to her, and she wasn't even in my first 3 women I've had sex with.Goddamn I miss you Whitney.