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Here's your new Ghost in the Shell anime
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>>189280474
ugly
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breathtaking
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>Twitter cap OP
>Netflix
Crossboarders should be publicly banned.
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>>189280474
>here's you're PS3 model bro
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I can see myself fapping to this
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>>189280474
>Ilya
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imagine tracing your way to character designer position on a big show like GITS
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>>189280474

That hairstyle is so 80's.
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>>189280551
As expected of netflix.
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>>189280551
A regular Greg Land.
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>>189280551
Worked for Toyotaro, now he's tracing for one of the biggest franchises world wide
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>>189280474
>stunning
they forgot to say brave too
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>>189280474
His art seriously has one of the most unappealing and drab styles I’ve ever seen from a variety of renowned freelance digital illustrators and his works he pumps out tend to be boring and unispired 90% of the time and whenever I see it on a shirt or as some fuck’s profile picture or whatever I am filled with an inexplicable sense of rage mixed with apathy and dread and existential terror
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>>189280551
>>189280474
/ic/'s going to love this.
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Why doesn't anyone just do GS with the creators original cartoony style with tits and ass?
It's always srs bsns cheap high school philosophy ridden crap.
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>>189280551
Copying is not the same as tracing.
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>>189280474
Oh hey she actually looks way better then the original version. Good call on modernizing the artstyle.
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>>189280551
imagine practicing your style by drawing things with references
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>>189280700
He does both, see the overlay.
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>>189280551
>>189280474
>Ohio nice to meet you Irya -kun! Today we are finarry starting out with keyframes for our new grorious cute girrr anime. First shot is an extreme row angre focusing on girr's butt as she runs rate to school.
>*Ilya draws a portrait of a girl staring blankly into the camera while holding a piece of bread in her hand*
>Nonono, Irya-kun, shimatta! What arr you doing? Give us more emotion, more movement!
>*girl's face is now looking 15 degrees to the left, her mouth is slightly opened, the bread is now blurred so hard it looks like a piece of cardboard *
>WHATTHE FUCK IS THIS KUSO, IRYA-KUN? Where is your russian Shishkin, where is Repin?! SHOW US THEIR GRORIOUS LEGACY!
>*Ilya is now sweating profusely, his eyes racing around the room in attempts to find at least one manga cover to copy from while "sukablyat" is echoing trough his skull like a gong*
>*a wet stain appears on Irya's brand new uniqlo pants*
>*he starts shaking*
>*whole studio stares at him in awe and fear as his body shakes so hard it separates into green and red*
>*the Third Impact is finally upon us*
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>>189280474
lips made for sucking dick
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>>189280551
Togashi is a genius
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>>189280799
I don’t know if this is a copypasta or if you just have autism but this made me laugh so there you go anon
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>>189280551
>Not using the new version
Shame on you
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I looked it up and it's fully CG.
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>>189280682
/ic/ were the ones who found out and broke the news
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>>189280474
>Kuvshinov
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That artstyle looks so familiar that it's killing me
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>>189280481
uh, it actually looks good
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>>189280903
Because it’s shilled every fucking where
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The only thing that can save it is the soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tf46s9ZeJs
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>>189280779
It's obviously traced.
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>>189280903
ilya kuvshinov
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>>189280474
First they ruined Cowboy Bebop. Then Eva. Now they're ruining GitS. FUCK NORMALFAGS AND FUCK NETFLIX.
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>>189280474

Ilya Kuvshinov?
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>>189280551
>retards don't know the difference between tracing and referencing/redrawing something into your own style
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I don't give a shit about the tracing, I just fucking hate the artstyle. Chromatic Aberration with polished features is shit.
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>>189280941
what if the soundtrack is traced too
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>>189280779
Some of it is clearly heavily referenced while some of it is obviously traced. I think the problem of the matter is that he’s just blatantly ripping off other artists/photographers with these pieces. I mean, he might have thought at the time that it was okay since these are all from “official works” or something along those lines and that in copying off of thosee works he wouldn’t be breaking any moral code? But what even is the point in creating art if you’re just going to steal from other peoples’ work? What’s the reasoning? What exactly makes doing so and then posting it for everyone to see worthwhile, in the long run?
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>>189280799
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>>189280878
>>189280551
Ok niggers, I want you to do the same but with your own style and coloring. Let's see if you can achieve the same.
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>>189281153
>Let's see you do better!
I hope for your sake that you're trolling
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Smartphones ruined cyberpunk. Think about how many plots are get from point a to point b so you can phyically steal the data. Or i have to get to a specific place i need a computer. Or lets physically tail this guy. Nah bro just intercept the data or track the phones gps. What do you mean you need a supercomputer the size of a small building and that buildings half way around the world so you must travel there to get online.
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>>189280924
Schedule an appointment for cataract surgery.
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>3dcg
>Origa is fucking dead
who cares at this point
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>>189280487
NO, YOU ARE BREATHTAKING!
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>>189281141
Employment opportunities, evidently.
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>>189281187
Yeah faggot, you feel so entitled to say that because you posted those pics
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>>189281211
>Origa
Kokia and Shikata Akiko are the only ones who can do it justice now
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>>189281292
what did he mean by this?
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>>189281153
Retard
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>>189281153
>I want you to do the same
Why the fuck do i want to trace?
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>>189280474
I love how you people seethe because he used references. Now he's successful while you continue being a NEET/low tier wagecuck. Work on making good money so you retire by 30 you dorks.
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>>189281461
Imagine missing the point this much
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>>189280474
holy shit is that Ilya Kushinov
nice
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>>189280474
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>>189280878
>>189280551
well thats a shame to know. I still like them, though
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>>189280474
Who did this crap? I bet it was not a japanese.
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>>189280551
some of these are likely to be tracing but it's retarded to put the one in paper with the reference picture next to it
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>>189280474
Based.
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>>189281192
Smartphones bear some of the blame, but I think we're disillusioned with digital technology in general...

Anyone else remember the early days of the world wide web and the breathless hopes that the new digital age would usher new levels of communication, scholarship, and access to information? Instead of that we got porn, facebook, memes, and e-commerce that squashes traditional businesses.

Or the idea that data and connectedness would revolutionize the world and bring about global democracy? Turns that digital media is excellent for mass surveillance, propaganda, and bringing people together through shared hatreds.

And those handheld digital devices that were supposed to help us communicate and interact with the world? Instead, it's not weird to see people staring down at their screens, utterly oblivious to the world and people around them.
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>>189280818
>lips made for sucking sweet pussy
Fixed.
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>>189280972
Devilman and Castlevania are great, though
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>>189280474
Looks nice but I remember I disliking this artist for a reason.

>>189280551
Oh THAT's why. While some examples here are simple re-draws, a lot of them are also blatant plagiarism/tracing from source to final product.
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>>189281905
3,2,1.....
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>>189281854
>Smartphones bear some of the blame, but I think we're disillusioned with digital technology in general...
It's because we imagined the future was going to be this cool place of limitless possibilities but then the future turned out to be gay autism with sterile, boring Apple aesthetic.
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>>189280878
>reminder that he made 400$ per week stealing others works.
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>>189281943
yes, do go on
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>>189282080
let's
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>>189282093
jam
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>>189281042
Holy shit this. Fucking subhumans.
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>CG
>Netflix
>motoko looks worse than her arise design
That's going to be a big no from me. Why don't they stick to producing their shitty original anime instead of taking something like SAC and ruining it with an unnecessary sequel?
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>>189280878
These are pretty good honestly
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>>189280878
What a piece of shit
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>>189280941
Gits soundtrack is fucking awesome
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>>189280878
some of these are fine, like the 3dpd tracing. the others are not
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>>189280878
Some of these are alright but some of them are blatant tracing. They do have a terrible grasp at using certain references without understanding the artist's style, the most godawful example being that Lain artwork looking distorted compared to the original source.
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Why are they letting that Russian guy do this
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>>189282254
This. The 3DPD shit are A-OK since they're 2D redraws of 3D photos but the blatant tracing of the same artworks are inexcusable.
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>>189280474
>[sentence fragment]. [sentence fragment]. [sentence fragment].
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>>189281042
This is WAY beyond referencing, references are meant to give you a foundation on a new creation altogether, like taking live models and creating something new that a mere photograph might not be able to capture.

The nigger is just taking another artist's hard-wrought piece and throwing inappropriately realistic faces over their work without regard for context or anatomy.
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>>189280878
You're mixing up tracing and pose reference. Totally different shit.
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>>189281138
Pretty likely if it's Yoko Kanno.
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>>189280878
>the fucking reddit nose plastered on everything
fuck every single current """""artist"""""
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>>189282357
>inappropriately realistic faces
>realistic faces
>realistic
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>>189282463
>reddit nose
what new buzzword is this
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>>189282469
cool, so for the off-chance he doesn't do that, he just outright copypastes a Soejima face for a Soejima-designed character! fantastic counter-point
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>>189280878
Remove the ones based on live-action movies (keep the cosplay ones) and this will look better.
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>>189282497
>new
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>>189282497
I meant tumblr nose
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Did you guys like the smaller major in arise?

As usual I am always more interested in the other characters and fucking hell in the series Togusa was the main one for me I think that no surprise.
Difficult stoic character to pull out. And yes I read the manga.

I love SAC and how its written and directed but I really never liked her look or the look of the show.
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>>189280495
Twitter posters should be publicly banned on every board.
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>>189281042
yeah, just look how in every single drawing the authors style changes to fit close to 1:1 the reference, it's totally the authors own style
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>>189280878
>takes something and improves it
He's based, you guys are just jealous
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>>189282623
>I really never liked her look
It was alright

>the look of the show.
I can live without the early 2000s animation
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>>189282506
Nah, remove the cosplay ones except the Redline one, but keep the car reference source since it's blatantly copy-pasted.
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>>189280878
>>189280551
Neither of these are tracing.
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>>189282663
Art is subjective
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>>189282772
Sure thing Kronz, you can change your name how many times you want but you can't erase the past
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>>189282772
Some of them aren't but some of the linework and even cloth creases are blatant tracing.
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>>189280551
>>189280878
fucking plebs kill yourselves. im drawing for 10 years and dont know a single artist who wouldnt trace/copy or got trigerred by that shit. ilya isnt the best artist but atleast he has actual art education + some experience in char designing to do the work
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>>189282927
and yet you’re still /beg/
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>>189282927
>im drawing for 10 years and dont know a single artist who wouldnt trace/copy or got trigerred by that shit
I've been drawing for longer and I find it disappointing. You've just had shit standards for 10 years straight.
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>>189282927
My sister has been drawing for 20+ years, 10+ professionally, has a BA in visual arts and only traces when she absolutely needs to finish something fast
She hardly ever does it and hates artists who heavily rely on tracing, specially if it is something that didn't need to be delivered within hours/days like pretty much the entirety of Illya's work
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https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-06-11/ghost-in-the-shell-sac_2045-3dcg-anime-characters-designed-by-birthday-wonderland-ilya-kuvshinov/.147749
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>>189282790
By that logic even hitler was a good artist
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>>189282927
If all you do is copy then all you will learn to do is copy. There is no excuse to trace another author’s work in the age of technology where you can use a program with 3d models to get poses and anatomy right.
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>>189280474
Netflix needs to be fucking stopped
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>>189280551
>>189280878
someone post that garbage "manga" that was drawn by this asshole
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>>189280474
Who /stopped caring after arise/ here?
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>>189283049
His perspectives were fucked but with enough practice he could have shaped up
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>>189283049
his landscapes are simple, but not awful.

apparently his portraits were fucking awful though
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>>189282573
but those noses aren't brown or red. or pig nose

>>189282571
based retard trying to fit in
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>>189283049
Why would you post this here
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>>189283086
>manga
Now I'm curious
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>>189283131
>but those noses aren't brown or red. or pig nose
Plenty of them are, the Lain one is the most glaring example
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>>189283091
I stopped caring halfway through 2nd Gig
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>>189282927
>im drawing for 10 years
Lmao fucking PYW faggot or shut the fuck up
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>>189280878
>completely failing on lain and faye
someone should ban this guy from touching drawing material
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>>189283162
I can kinda see it with lain and maybe bayonetta, but the rest are clearly shadows to put volume on the nose. Man, I fucking wish that was what tumblr nose actually looked like, it would at least be bearable
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>>189283049
He's not that bad yes, what's your point?
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>>189283049
He wasn't bad. He just wasn't particularly inspiring and wasn't royalty, so Vienna didn't want him.
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>>189280878
Wait is Ilyia this... tracer?
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>>189283074
This. And if you’re going to pass it off as him simply referencing for practice, then why would he even need to post his “practice” as if they’re his own full pieces for all of his followers to see in the first place? Tracing and using references as a beginner for personal use in order to improve your fundamental skills is one thing, and I’m of the opinion that no one should be bashed for doing so. But it turns into a whole other story if you’re just blatantly copying other peoples’ works and then posting these works as if you’re the one who came up with the orginal idea in the first place. It just feels disingenuous to me and disrespectful to the original artist, and to art as a whole to be honest. I know that he apologized for it though or at least I heard he did
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>>189283261
Why the hell do they do that anyway?
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>>189283168
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>>189280878
The Yoko one is differenet tho, the pose is similar but that's it, and the cosplay slut was not the one who did this first there a bunch of pic with Yoko in this same position.
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>>189283460
Yup, he changed his handle name after get caught
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>>189283474
all of them took the same learn to draw tutorial
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>>189280474
>netflix
How about fucking no
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>>189280878
Most of these are redraws from reference not trace. Trace means to literally go over it with your tool. Reference is just to observe and recreate.
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>>189282927
ngmi
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>>189281192
It’s not that smartphones ruined it. It’s just Cyberpunk started off as a visualization of the future. Now we know the future wasn’t anything like that so it’s mostly a nostalgia for what we thought the future would look like.
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>>189280638
And now we got all his dumb fanfic transformations and mcguffins. super is shit.
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>>189282927
Apologist shit like that is why you're going to be a life long /beg/gar
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>>189283474
Idk, likely a fad that caught on there because they have always been dangerously close to an actual hive mind. I don't even hate the idea of the reddish nose to portray cheeky children, sickly people, cold places or drunks. But to make it the default is just bizarre to me. I have yet to understand the brown nose, though.
Also rosy skin is not tumblr nose
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>>189283511
>he changed his handle name after get caught
I call bullshit on that, since he uploaded the same stuff he made under Ilya
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>>189282772
>>189283611
Are you sure people aren't mad because it shows that this guy gained success not through their own merit or creativity but by taking the ideas from others?

Ilya will always be a good artesan, that's it. They have good technical skills that make them valuable assets to art. They're a shit artist in all other aspects.
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I don't actually care that much if someone traces, even extensively, for their fan art stuff. It'd be a different matter if they did so for professional stuff.

To clarify I don't consider Patreon rewards 'professional'
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>>189280474
Cool, the porn is gonna be amazing
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>>189284012
>Good artesan

Ilya/Kronprinz is not even a good artesan either. You know who is also considered a good artesan but a shit artist? Bob Ross. He can pump out landscapes in less than 30 minutes and his technical skill is a testament to that, but his inability to create any other meaningful form of art makes him criticized as an artist throughout the years.

Yet, despite all of this, Bob Ross can still manage to shit out a landscape painting from his own damn imagination in less than 30 minutes without relying on reference material. Ilya shits out the same bust-high head shit with the same fucking everything else and gets paid hundreds of dollars for it. Ilya can't create anything from their own imagination and people has proven that with these fucking "expose" images.
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>>189280551
>Imagine using references
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>>189284012
>Ilya will always be a good artesan, that's it. They have good technical skills that make them valuable assets to art. They're a shit artist in all other aspects.
That should be a good thing for a lead animator in an adaptation, but we also know that Netflix would never let an accurate representation of Masamune Shirow's art on their service.
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>>189280675
>Imagine being this triggered
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>>189284110
>Imagine being blind
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>>189280474
>>189280495
this
just her face should be op pic, it's a file already even
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>>189280474
Not another GitS, ffs... It is time to move on.
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>>189284050

Like you can even fap with those tiny hands.
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>>189284012
>good artesan
Lmao, have you seen his manga?
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>>189280474
>character art with that level of complexity
but how are they going to animate it? just do mostly low detail wide shots and a small amount of static close ups ?
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>>189284159
no, I haven't. Is it dogshit?
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>>189284117
Shirow's art isn't very good just FYI
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>>189284041
You may not see anything wrong in it, but the majority of the artists who have this happen to them certainly mind it. I’m not sure whether you’re an artist who’s ever posted your work for other people to see or not, but it sucks when you’ve worked hard on and put irreplaceable time into a piece just to have some literal who rip it off and receive more traction and attention onto his version than yours. Not to say that these artists are really obscure or whatever but still, the point is that art theft just generally sucks
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>>189281153
>You have to be a professional chef in order to know when food tastes like shit

Kek
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>>189284163
It's a 3D CG show.
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>>189284134
Imagine us touching dicks lol
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>>189284012
>>189284245

What's sad is that making pin-ups is like the bare-minimum effort an artist needs to put forward and yet Ilya still manages to go above and beyond laziness by taking pinups from other artists and just slapping their style over it. You don't need to tell a story with a pin-up drawing, you don't need to make it thought-provoking, you don't need to make it complex. All a pin-up drawing requires is for you to catch the eyes of the general audience as best as possible and make whatever is being a pin-up look cool/sexy.

It's literally the least amount of brain power you need in a piece of artwork and yet Ilya STILL copies off other people's shit.
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>>189281101
Is chromatic aberration the thing that makes all his images look semi out of focus? Or is it the thing that gives them their sort of off color appearance?
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>>189284169
I haven't seen it so am not saying anything about it, but nothing about Ilya's standalone art suggests they have any basic manga skills, nor am I convinced their style would translate to the necessarily lower detail levels that would be inherent in doing manga
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>>189281854
This is some serious pseudo-intellectual bullshit you've got here

The internet was supposed to usher in new levels of scholarship and information dissemination, and it did, shit like Wikipedia being just the tip of the iceberg, you've just gotta know where to look. Just because you only use the internet for porn doesn't mean everyone does.

And that whole "people only stare at their phones instead of communicating with one another" is bullshit too, I now have the capability to trigger some nationalist chink on the other side of the world by telling him that Taiwan is #1 on an organic basket-weaving forum instead of having to look at the homeless guy masterbation at the back of the bus on my way to work every day

I will give you the whole surveillance and propaganda thing tho
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>>189284381
It's ugly and overused https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration
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>>189280941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0A7i5vqJE8
This is the best GitS song, hands down. It may be one of the best songs ever made. Yoko Kanno is (was) a genius.
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>>189284381
Chromatic Aberration is a lens flaw that some artists use as a stylistic choice. People began to hate it when lesser artists began using it to make their drawings look better than they actually are and to hide imperfections and their lack of technical skill.
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>>189283474
does this really bother people that much
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>>189284482
Ok, so it's both the semi out of a focus and specific coloring. It can look good, and he definitely uses it well, but it's so overused it becomes annoying. Sort of like autotune in a song.
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Can't wait for every girl to have the same face.
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>>189284245
If someone traces or copies your work into a different style, and that garners more attention, it just means you don't have the foresight to understand what people are looking for in aesthetic. You don't deserve the attention, and will remain in obscurity unless you adapt.
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>>189284229
Yes, that doesn't change the fact that Netflix wouldn't allow borderline porn.
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>>189282997
>>189283010

>n-no u
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>>189284498
>Yoko Kanno is (was) a genius
>was
What do you mean?
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>>189284229
All he does is draw interracial gangbang grease porn nowadays anyway
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>>189284601
Anon, Yoko Kanno has been dead for several years now.
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>>189284601
Eh, I guess I meant her newer stuff hasn't captured me like the old. She is still extremely talented, though.
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>>189284601
Kanno hasn't done a soundtrack since 2014

Add a few years onto that since her last really good one
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>>189283474
It's a holdover from when Tumblr was all just basic white girls who were into the "just girly things" mason-jars-and-twine-aesthetic and they all wanted to have cutesy button noses and freckles and sundresses and shit
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>>189284559
You can't act like a retard while simultaneously pretending that you know a thing about how the industry or how the world works anon, you have to pick one or the other if you want to seem convincing
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>>189284067
It's cause the people who pay him are artistic plebs who like his aesthetic and lack the knowledge to discern true creativity and artistic talent

He's a fad and nothing more
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>>189284381
Both
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>>189284553
Have you seen that other anime he worked on? Literally all the characters look the same
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>>189284012
>check Patreon
>makes 2k a week in donations
damn I would hate him too if I was an artist
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Holy shit, the amount of fucking salt in this thread.
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>>189284796
shut up you ugly otter
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>>189280941
you're delusional if you think Yoko Kanno will be back to do the ost
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If you're not Kim Jung Gi, you're no artist.
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>>189280878
>not knowing the diferences between tracing, redrawing and referencing
This guy's shit but you need to learn what you are even talking about
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>>189284012
I don't care for their success since people pay for shitloads of money for the most stupidest things. Using similar ideas is one thing (usually it's fine), but blatantly tracing exact poses/linework while positing it as your own original take is just plain lazy and terrible in execution.

>good technical skills
Some of their artworks show a complete lack of understanding as to why the style even works the way it does so I wouldn't call that "good" technical skills.
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>>189284777
I looked at the trailer and it didn't seem to be noticeably sameface
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>>189284864
and bob ross can't paint a house to save his life, but that doesn't make him a bad artesan either. Ilya is just a good pinup artist. that's literally it.
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>>189284704
This isn't even a rebuttal, it's just vitriol. You're just exemplifying your own stupidity by trying to debase my argument solely through ad hominem. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence who reads your reply will think it was written by an idiot.

People lean towards certain artistic aesthetics much like clothing fashions, whether it be in; user interface design, video games, architecture, interior design or even hentai. Just looking through a site like exhentai will show an evolution in common aesthetic traits of style and prose in the artist works displayed there over time.

It will be interesting to see if you have any valid reasoning as rebuttal, or if you're just going to spout even more personal attacks. My guess is the latter, because while you say I don't understand anything about the industry, my guess is you ironically haven't even put an iota of thought into what actually sells.
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>>189284923
Imagine all the art students who get taught that in order to "make it" they would need to be good at various things and be a jack-of-all-trades kind of person and see some dude succeed and make it to the same spot by doing nothing but head shots and stealing from others.
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>>189280878
Damn I didn't remember how blatant these were.
While I personally think that there is nothing wrong in tracing 3D models to skip a step if you're a professional with deadlines and all that, this just leave a really poor taste in my mouth.
It's kind of a shame since you can see that the dude clearly have potential.
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>>189284012
>They have good technical skills that make them valuable assets to art.
lol no
it took him years to learn how to draw hands, after he was already making tons of money on patreon
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DUDE DODGE AND BURN BLENDING LMAO
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>>189280487
Keanu pls.
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>>189284163
>that
>complex
Come on now.
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>>189280474
that's not a key visual, that's literally just a piece of fanart, what the fuck are you doing Netflix, do you not get how this shit works?
obviously not but I wanted to point out the obvious anyway
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>>189284995
The saddest thing is that most of the time, "making it" is almost just a matter of luck or talking to the right person at the right time.
There are a buttloads of fantastic artists that stay unknown for an obscene amount if not all the time while some dipshit who just smear their doodles in a fuckton of piss filters suddenly make thousands on patreon.
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Hachicoma, activate OVERLAY
Wait....
These are the same
Major, they're the exact same
Its a trap!
Get out of there!
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>>189280474
>hiring and supporting a known plagiarist in an industry that hates piracy

FUCK THIS IRONIC SHIT
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>>189284967
I know that you're of the nihilistic mindset that uniqueness will never "flourish" and that we should all work under the same robotic environment because if we don't then we'll never "make it big", which can be attributed to that of an edgy rebellious teenager. But no matter what mindset you have, it doesn't warrant you or give you any liability to say that artists who don't follow the same doe eyed moeblob fap fodder art style "deserve" to have their fucking artwork ripped off by people from across the world. You saying that makes you look like you don't know a thing to be honest. I'm tired right now and we're on 4channel so I won't pull up any sources or whatever you want but, dude if you just looked around you could find that people who have their own unique, creative merit to their art make it fine in the industry and can even become the cash cows. In fact these are usually the people who DO make it big, instead of these western guys who make a couple thousand dollars a week tops on their patreons making cheap hentai, and who occasionally get their shit reposted onto r/anime - so I actually have no clue what you're talking about lmao. Just look at Yuasa or Ikuhara or Lynch, or hell the majority of renowned content creators within this medium. I also like how you commentate on my "personal attack" when you've basically called me a retard like three times in your post
But whatever you're probably gonna respond to this with a plethora of buzzwords or something
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>>189280474
Couldn't they have given me a Pandora with a proper budget?
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Aside from the other problems that I honestly don't feel too strongly about, his style is just too clean and pristine and, I dunno, shallow for GitS. I don't want no bezel-less, manicured, picture perfect, surround sound, integrated with Facebook and 900-dollar Apple stand new-age pussy vibe and backdrop in my bisexual big robotitty full cyborg supersoldier commando genius cyberpunk anime. His art doesn't evoke any interest, for some reason. There's none of the grit and grimness that have become synonymous with GitS, and cyberpunk/transhumanism in general. Hell, even SAC major has some depth and intrigue to her character design. She looks far more feminine than her earlier iterations, but there's still a powerful underlying hint of intensity in the tone and style.

Kuvshinov's pieces literally all come across as the same bland bullshit. They all have the same soul. It's like sameface, but for the entire fucking work.
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>>189285540
It's just a common talking point that some people obsess over trying to prove that fan art is "better" than the original, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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how disappointing. doing the major a dirty here.
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>>189285805
I know, but I'm autistic and bored so I took the bait. People who think this way really do make me mad though, and it makes me a little concerned for the future of the creative industry. You're right though I'm probably just worrying too much
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>>189280474

So which picture did he trace/copy this from?
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>no Origa

What's the point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVgSuuUTwQ
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>>189286143
You're going to make me literally fucking cry
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>>189280878
>>189280551
Even that SEAnig porn artist Hews is better than him.
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>>189286283
>SEAnig
He's better than most Japanese porn artists on Pixiv. Fight me you fucking faggot
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>>189286114
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>>189280686
The first gits movie defined gits more than the manga did. Arguably it was an inprovement
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>>189285114
>Keanu will never call you breathtaking
JUST END IT NOW
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>>189280686
the manga is not that great truth be told
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>>189284229
Its his style thats more remarkable. Nobody does perky titties and ass like he does. Good faps
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>>189286519
I'm sure he already thinks you are breathtaking just by trying your best everyday
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>>189286551
it's not fantastic 100% of the time, but when it's good it's really good.
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>still no adaptation of 2.0
I sleep
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>>189281153
There are legitimately some master drawfags lurking /a/. They post sometimes.
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>>189284498
fucking fantastic song
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>>189281138
funny thing is the rise of temp tracks literally is this
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Is it just me or normalfags just doesn't give a shit if it trace or not anymore?
It used to be a death sentence for artists.
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>>189287433
It is, if the artist's name/reputation is not big enough.
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>>189280552
Great isn't it.
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>>189280481
i strongly disagree, in fact i think YOU are ugly :)
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>>189286809
>Implying that gigantic mess is adaptable
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>>>/wsg/2866060
where will it go in here? I think there's exactly two options. It will either be as bland and disappointing as arise so people will forget it and refuse to talk about it or it will be a dumpster fire like the live action and be remembered solely for hating on how it shat all over an amazing franchise. I just wanted SAC season 3
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>>189284498
SAC had such an amazing soundtrack but cyberbird really sticks out.
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>>189284498
Do we know if Kanno is working on 2045?
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>>189284612
You're thinking of Origa.
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>>189280878
>TRACING BAD - ANYONE CAN DO IT
Then do it fagot
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>>189288021
Except no one said that anyone can do it. The people copying famous paintings can probably draw quite well, yet their art is worth orders of magnitude less than the original paintings
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>>189287812
oh yeah well you smell like farts haha
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>>189288021
You do realize that newbie trace everyday right? It IS something anyone can do.
Fucking normalfags
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>>189288021
sure. give him a million dollar budget which netflix provides first.
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>>189280474
Drawing politics aside, I don't think it looks bad. Guess I'll have to see when a trailer actually comes out.
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>TFW the CGI in the OG SAC intro might be better despite being 17 years older
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Fuck off whiteknights it doesn't matter if they're traced or referenced or redrawn, they all mean he doesn't have an original bone in his body the same.
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>>189281943
LET'S JAM
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>>189288321
Better looking than ARISE thats for sure.
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>>189280474
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Who fucking cares about tracing and not tracing when it's fucking 3dcgshit?
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Am I the only one who's okay with Kushinov on their team? I'm so weary from seeing ugly art put on a pedestal because they're supposedly bold and inspired. I'll gladly take lacklustre art as long as it looks pretty.
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>>189280474
Looks better than Arise.

GitS has not been a good franchise since 2nd Gig in 2004.
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>>189289113
Pretty much yeah, ARISE tried way to hard to stand out in terms of character design and overall artwork. I mean what was so bad about SAC that they couldn't just stick with it's
design style that they needed to throw it out?

I'll take the art style in OP's post happily over people trying too hard to stand out.
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>>189280474
c-c-c--c-c-c-c--c-c--c-c-c--c-c-ccc--c-c-c-c-c--c-c-c-c-c-c-c--c-UUUUUUUUUUUUUHRINGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>189280551
/ic/ reporting, it looks like you just have to fake it till you make it, what a shame.
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>>189283355
He wasn't particularly bad.
He painted in a style nobody cared about, since you could just take a photo. This has no semblance of individuality, it's just another "will draw landscapes for money" painting.
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>>189280474
I hate this russian gaijin so much..
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>>189280474
notmymotoko
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>>189281801
russian gaijin shithead
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>>189289411
dumb satania poster
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>>189280474
what tumblr artist drew this
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>>189289444
dumb satania hater
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>>189280878
The amount of astro-turfing in response to these pictures by Netflix shills is astounding. I thought blatant /v/-tier shilling was banned here.
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>>189289539
>The amount of astro-turfing in response to these pictures by Netflix shills is astounding. I thought blatant /v/-tier shilling was banned here.
/pol/ and /v/ are eating your brains.
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>>189280474
Yeah, nah. GiTS SAC Major will always be MY Major. Not bang/fringe less Arise, and not this Kamille looking ripoff.
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>>189280941
>>189284498
Excellent choices, but my favorite one is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzY5J9s4HK8
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>>189289574
moot confirmed back in 2012 that companies do shill here, he specified Borderlands and Old Republic in particular. Stop with the epic no one shills on 4chan maymay. It's a site used by hundreds of thousands and anonymous so therefore free.
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>>189289649
>>189280941

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AbssmQ7EPI

This is so fucking good. That echoey distorted guitar riff makes me cum in my pants.
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>>189280878
For the new "traces", aren't even traced. He referenced them or did a study based on the pic.
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>>189289705
It doesn't mean that every retarded opinion you don't agree with is astro-turfing by a corporation. Some people are just dumb or don't know better.
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reminder even the playstation OST is good if you're into tracker/old school techno music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWYt-P7yJ1k
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>>189280474
>>189280551
>it's the same face guy
This shit looks exact same as every other picture I see used as youtube background for music upload.
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There are literal morons in tgis thread who cry about some disposable soundtrack singer, when there's an utterly incompetent digital artist was pushed and handed the leas character designer for the new ghost in the shell series.

Only the writer and the director can save this bullshit now.
Anime productions studio doesn't matter now.
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I'm surprised there is no /ic/ and /pa/ butthurt rage with salt in this thread
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>>189288021
I value creativity more than technique, I like art with soul.
A work that the artist put in effort to draw their own pose, composition, color palette, has much higher value than one produced by a copy machine powered by rice
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>>189283460
It's not trace. This pic is half-truth like others. Heavy reference? Yes. /ic/ think everything is trace if it's accurate. He has video process for all "traced" puctures.
>hurr durr Kr0n shill
video was leaked by anon when controversy start. You probably still can find link in /ic/ archive.
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>>189280474
It looks like absolute trash. Whoever made this should commit suicide
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>>189280887
Not true.
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>>189290031
>>>/ic/3968039
they got their own thread going on
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>>189290031
>I'm surprised there is no /ic/ and /pa/ butthurt rage with salt
Only a butthurt idiot from /ic/ or /pa/ can say something like
>>189290021
>There are literal morons in tgis thread who cry about some disposable soundtrack singer, when there's an utterly incompetent digital artist
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>>189290187
>Only a butthurt idiot from /ic/ or /pa/ can say something like
You make no sense. Why?
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>>189290219
Come back where you came from.
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>>189290242
I don't get it.
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I thought Japs were pretty ruthless on artists who trace? I remember that Show guy or what's his name who draws loli getting slammed pretty bad when it was found out he traced.
Why are they eating up this shit?
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>>189290372
Well he didn't trace. And other artist just apologized. That's fucking all. And HxH manga traced (like really). No one cares if you apologize.
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Is there a single picture this guy drew that wasn't traced?
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>>189290396
Sumimashen
*continue tracing*
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>>189288490
Are you saying he's a cyborg artist?
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>>189283131
People on /a/ call just about any nose on a girl that isn't a pinpoint dot a tumblr nose, to be fair
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>>189282629
>>189284145
>>189280495
I think this one is alright, since it just shows how much of a faggot netflix is
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>>189285172
that amount of shading and lighting is way beyond anything youd see animated on a production scale
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>>189290924
Except it's not. The genga of that picture would be surprisingly simple, the light effects can easily be added with programs after the key animation is done.
Think KyoAni style and boom, she's animated.
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>>189281004
Yes, and im very Happy forma that
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>>189280551
Tracing your way to artisthood is actually pretty good. However using traced art for your official portfolio is not.
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>>189280474
>trace art
>netflix gives you work
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Can Netflix fuck off already?
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>>189290924
>that amount of shading and lighting
>>189290965
>Think KyoAni style and boom, she's animated.
It's a 3dcg show.
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>>189291158
>It's a 3dcg show.
Irrelevant to the point.
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>>189280551
I hate that faggot so fucking much. I hate his style, all of it
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>>189280779
retard
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Wait, it's not even his first anime. Why do people act so surprised about him being involved into something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUXxCjftz80
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>>189291658
>Why do people act so surprised about him being involved into something?
Don't expect anything from /ic/ and drawfags.
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>>189291658
Because that's irrelevant garbage compared to Gits
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>>189291658
>Why do people act so surprised about him being involved into something?
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT, SOMEONE STOP HIM AAAAAAAAA
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>>189280878
What a piece of shit.
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>>189280878
Looks like he improved it from the original. Not complaining at all.
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>>189285540
>I know that you're of the nihilistic mindset that uniqueness will never "flourish"
Nope
>that we should all work under the same robotic environment
Never said anything of the sort
>...
None of this counters my point. You went from blatant ad hominem to full retard strawman. You truly are an idiot.
> I also like how you commentate on my "personal attack" when you've basically called me a retard like three times in your post
>commentate
I was calling you an idiot for resorting to solely personal character attacks to try and debase my argument. The difference between your post and mine is that, while I called you an idiot, I didn't use that attack to try and discredit your reasoning; I couldn't even if I wanted to, because you didn't provide any reasoning to begin with.
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>>189286719
the parts of sac that are more like the manga in tone are better to me
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>>189286346
Your not wrong anon. Wish he would quit it with the shota.
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>>189280474
Wow. Disgusting.
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Kronorinz shitposting in a nutshell:

>hey, that was my joke, you stole my joke!
>yeah, but I said it better, no one laughed at yours
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>>189283086
>not knowing this ilya classic
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>>189291658
its the major man come on
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>>189281042
only retard is your blind faggot ass.
yeah plastering your own face while tracing 90% of the rest of art is a cool style that appeals to brainlets like you.
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>>189292335
Dude, I don't follow art boards
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>>189283474
The drunk father trauma is very common
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>confirmed 100% 3DCG
>by the people who made the horrible looking Ultraman netflix 3d show
>art director is the guy who just traces shit
>no yoko kanno OST
100% guaranteed to be garbage. real shame since SAC is my favorite anime.
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>>189286689
thank you mr Reeves
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>>189280551
He has a movie that uses his character designs too
pisses me off so much man
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>>189293302
its a real fucking shame that this is SAC season 3 and not something "new"
srsly SA 1&2 are/were the highest budget tv anime for an early completely digital animation SAC really showed off that with a lot of passion and love digital animation is in fact superior over traditional cel animation
its fucking crazy 17 years later and still only a handful of season anime are on par or are better than GITS:SAC real shame even tho we were told this would be 3DPD I had high hopes that this wouldn't be janky trash because the thought of IG tarnishing SAC is just surreal but here we are this is going to be worse than arise and probably worse than the kike movie

god why is being a ghost in the shell fan suffering now why ruin an amazing IP known for its animation and defining the post-cyberpunk genre
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I wonder if we'll get a CP2077 anime to tie in with the game, after all, they are already working with CDPR on the Witcher.
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>>189280474
At least his gaijin art is easy to spot and ignore
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>>189280878
>that rachel trace
original one is better desu
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>>189280474
>>189280551
can someone give me a quick rundown
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>>189288321
god i wish this poster was available
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>>189280474
looks a bit like pic related from some random artist.
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>>189280474
Didn't know ilya is so hated here
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>>189286346
>>189292217
He's great, but I wish he'd just draw what his dick tells him. His art looks so soulless by being told what or what not to draw all the time.
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>https://variety.com/2019/film/festivals/netflix-first-character-photo-ghost-in-the-shell-sac_2045-1203239634/
>The series will be the first time the IP will be fully-animated in 3DCG.

WHY.
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>>189294551
delusional idiots think it looks good
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>>189284148
Nah I could always use good GITS.
But this is not that.
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>>189294592
honestly i'm with the other guy
dont give me more shit if it sucks the old stuff is fine
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>>189285767
I prefer this major.
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>>189280474
There's so many talented artists, but for some reason some russian Tumblr artist get job in the industry.
Even if forget all this tracing controversy, his not even that good.
This doesn't make sense to me.
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>>189284559
Bullshit, how popular a piece is can be entirely based on how big of a following you have on twitter or the trendy social media of the week. How your art looks isn't the be all factor. One drawing that blows up is liked because they are popular or popular because they are liked? Funny how you tried to discredit the other guy when your entire argument came down to follow the popular styles if you want to survive. His follow up was perfectly reasonable and you shied away with personal attacks, fucking hypocrite.
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I hope the soundtrack is something of a mix between the SAC soundtrack and these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xj346HvQXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfWMv8Y1V5E
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>>189294827
Normies love his style. End of story. I dont know how that is hard to grasp
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>CGI
Make it stop
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>>189294957
normies will never understand us bro
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>>189284537
it's not coloring, it's RGB displacement.
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>>189294957
>>189295320
Do you have discrd I can join?
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>tfw no qt cyborg gf
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>>189280474
kinda looks like her in the second part of the manga, but less good

eh
not stunning

also, cgi garbage is trash
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>>189280552

it really isn't

it lacks fluffiness

>>189287559
it really isn't

it lacks fluffiness
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>artist famous for TRACING
>cannot draw her on-model

how embarrassing
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>>189284469
>not using
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>>189295859
Winnie the Pooh
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>>189280481
>ugly
nice shit taste shitlord you just blow in from shit town?
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>>189289804
Ma nigga.
Sounds like Underworld.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oYoRg6Ws9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5GjVvlmg3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWYWpu5KUQ
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>>189294637
>>189294631

good postoko
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>>189286551
it's still the best part of the franchise
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>>189292064
PYW
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at least it's not sakimichan am i right guys
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>traced shit
>$54
>kekviantart ""artists"" will defend this
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>>189294244
the original is a real photo of the actress
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>>189280474
Oh hey its that Russian artist that traces everything >>189280474
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>>189280474
>someone handed GITS to Netflix

Why? Do they want to run it into the ground with American virtue signalling and politics?
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>>189280474
Why should I care unless best boy Kuze returns and reunites with his one true love?
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>>189297019
>>189297170
more importantly
>fails to trace Motoko's best design

it's exactly what happened for the SAC character design; the early concept art is just traced Shirow art, but it's traced wrong
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>>189282300
This. There's nothing wrong with drawing an already existing picture, as long as you don't pass it off as original or trace it.
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>>189286809
qt major.
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>>189297240
that was not actually the major
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>>189281042
Congrats on not understanding what a reference is.
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>>189286809
the tanooki is lurking
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>>189297205
>hack artist who is a tracing scam artist
>3DCG garbage
>cuckflix
>sequel to something that doesn't need one
The Major didn't deserve this fate.
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>>189280474
>it. is .Stunning
Why do people type like this
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>>189297334
Second Gig had the most perfect ending for SAC.
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>>189286689
based neo
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>>189297381
remember early 90s TV ads for kids where the announcer would talk in that fake bill & ted "doood awesuuuum" voice in a desperate atempt to connect with the youth?

this is the current-day equivalent
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>>189297274
Who was that semen demon then?
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>>189297207
Major X Kuze is unironically one of the best written romance manga in anime. Sometimes I wonder how kamiyama was able to write such stuff, considering his track record after moribito. I know oshii helped in giving ideas for SAC but it's still kamiyama's work for the most part.
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>>189297450
Motoko 11, aka Motoko Aramaki, a psychic copy of Motoko that popped up when Motoko got schlomped by the puppetmaster.
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>it.
>is.
>Stunning.
Modern "journalism" makes me puke.
Also that drawing has no background and no facial expression. Nice, but wholly unimpressive.
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>>189297456
And the fact that, despite getting romance-writing tips from Oshii, he somehow still managed to make it work, really shows how good of a writer he can be.

It's like managing to make an efficient action thriller with Neil Breen telling you how to direct it.
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>>189297522
the previous drawing had a smile, at least.

And it's a bit late to be complaining about Motoko lacking facial expressions. 1995 was 24 years ago.
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>>189297610
>It's like managing to make an efficient action thriller with Neil Breen telling you how to direct it.
I want to see him make a romance.
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do we know if any SAC people are working on this?
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>>189286551
It was my first manga so it will always hold a special place for me.
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>>189297754
But he does make romances, involving magical space rocks that cure cancer.
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>>189282629
Netflix aside, what's wrong with Twitter posters?
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Илья пришёл к успеху!
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>>189299026
learn to draw
if you're gonna trace do it right
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>>189282927
post your work
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Hoes mad lmaoooo
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>>189299372
>brand new uniqlo pants
how fitting for an art cloner to be a uniqlone!
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>>189280779
imagine practicing your style by NOT drawing things with references
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>>189298668
I can make an exception for OP since it's sharing news from an official source but most of time Twitter screencap threads consist of a bait screencap from some literal who and are made solely to ignite outrage
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>>189291616
nine?
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>>189280551
>imagine tracing your way to character designer position on a big show like GITS
Only irrelevant retards like you would be surprised that an artists traces something.
Good fucking god, how stupid can you be, it's just shocking honestly.
Every single artist does that, everyone traces each other in order to learn something, everyone copy-pastes each other's works all the time in search of an inspiration.

I know people who watched him drawing IRL and he's an incredibly skilled artist.
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>>189300803
If you had read the thread you may not have ended up missing the point so drastically. Also
>Every single artist does that, everyone traces each other in order to learn something
Simply not true. And usually, when people (who have even a sliver of morality in them) trace from other illustrators’ works for practice, they won’t go posting them onto a public platform for everyone to see.
But he apologized for it and as far as I know he doesn’t do this anymore, so whatever
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>>189294418
That's Ilya too.
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Hopefully Sakimichan and Hews next
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>>189301152
>Simply not true.
Please. You have no idea about the artists.
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>>189293302
At this point, with GitS having a fantastic manga, videogame, movie and two seasons. It doesn't really matter what garbage comes next.
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>>189302405
>movie
If that's a jab at Innocence, you better square the fuck up nigga.
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>>189302297
Maybe if you’re talking about deviantart artists but even the community on there will have an outrage if you get caught plagiarizing, and rightly so.
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>>189302450
innocence a shit
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>>189302450
I can't comment on it yet.
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>>189302488
You have a small brain and penis. How dare you flaunt such a pathetic opinion even on an anonymous website. Anywhere else and you would be tar and feathered.
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>>189280474
What's stunning about this?
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>>189280551
>trace for years
>get into character design work for a classic series
Madchad
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>>189280887
I was literally in that thread the day it happened dumb fuck. I even contributed to many of the proofs you see in these >>189280551
>>189280878
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>>189302455
You are a delusional braindead retard, why do you even argue about the subject you have no single clue about?
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>>189303975
4u
>>189290159
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>>189303988
Huh? I’m talking from experience. Anon you’re not making any sense
What’s even the point in arguing about this still?
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>>189280878
>>189280551
>redrawing a reference is the same as tracing
guarantee none of you here are actual artists
Also he hasn't drawn anything like this in a long time
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>>189280551
The absolute state of the western industry
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>>189304368
>referencing or studying bad anime artists

doesn't matter if he hasn't done it in a while, that's how he grew his following. -- through dishonesty
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>>189304328
What fucking experience?
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>>189304719
Experience of being on the internet since I can remember and stalking/following multiple artists from a variety of niches. This whole conversation has gone completely off its original track and we are now arguing about deviantart for no reason. I don’t even know what you’re trying to say at this point and frankly I don’t give a shit anymore
If you’re trying to prove some sort of point, you need to write more concisely and clarify what exactly it is that you’re trying to say.
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>>189304944
I know a couple of good artists personally (who also posted on 4chan in drawfag threads and whatnot) and my relatives are visiting an art school. I also know a couple of artists like Arsenixc who worked for a multiple of VNs and many other projects.
First thing that you learn about being an artist - COPY THE OTHERS, DO THAT ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Eventually you'd develop your own style and even then nobody stops you from making tributes to the other artists and their stuff if you want it, similar to their own style.
Nothing is "original" in any form of entertainment and "art".
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>>189280474
>CGI
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>>189305124
that's solid advice

now the ruskie nigger in the OP should apply that instead of just taking some other faggots work 1:1 and pasting his dogshit faces over it
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>>189280878
>hurr durr mah felow neckbeards think its tracin so I better try to fit in hurr durr
Go learn a trade or a skill you worthless, talentless fuck
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>>189305124
Yes. I know this. I know that artists do this. I know that skilled artists who are knowledgeable of the craft do this. I never implied I believed anything of the contrary. All I said was
>And usually, when people (who have even a sliver of morality in them) trace from other illustrators’ works for practice, they won’t go posting them onto a public platform for everyone to see.
This was my whole point. Like, I seriously don’t know what else you want me to tell you
I realize that some of these >>189280878 are cherrypicked and that the pic could be read as misleading, and I realize that some of those images were meant to be tributes, and that some of them were just referenced. But the guy has even admitted and apologized in regards to tracing and relying too heavily on the original works to the point of borderline plagiarism. You can’t deny that, and you can see it clearly in a lot of his old art.

To be honest I think I’m partly at fault for this having gotten so off track for even arguing about this in the first place when at this point all of this doesn’t even matter, since he doesn’t do this kind of shit anymore
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>>189280474
At least I don't think it will be as bad as the live action movie, amirite?
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>>189305777
It's not a very high bar, to be honest.
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>>189303448
A gaijin, no less. /ic/ is SEETHING
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>>189305777
>>189305855
Agreed
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>>189294363
I wish for this too
This poster is great IMO
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ctrl-f Berserk (2016/2017)
0 results
GiTS may end with Arise for me if this bears any resemblance to the new Berserk. Stop adding extra dimensions to my animes!
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>>189306017
Production I.G. CG is not Berserk-level. It won't be that terrible.
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>>189280474
Ilya Kuvshinov is a fucking hack
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>>189306017
There is no need for hyperbole. New Berserk is a league of its own.
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Japan will always be obsessed with sameface artists, like Hisashi Eguchi and Akira Toriyama. Illya is no different
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>Netflix
>Twitter
Who the fuck cares? Try asking the subreddit you clearly came from.
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>>189280474
These threads are always great for seeing the absolute butt blasted idiots that see a handful of referenced art which iliya himself calls fan art of iconic scenes and tries to say that he only copies.
You guys realize the mother fucker not only has thousands of drawings that are completely original? Dude was the lead character designer on a fucking movie.
Your art sucks and it's not better because you have no idea how to copy human proportions. That's not style it's just shit.
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>>189307008
Thank you for repeating the same thing that’s been said multiple times already within this very thread.
Now pyw
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>>189280799
Kek sasuga anon
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>>189281141
Would it be better if he just had some other western gross tumblr style?
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>>189305124
Still have nothing to do with tracing you fucking retard, learn to read for fuck's sake
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>>189307008
Sure thing Kronz
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Kojima's seal of approval.
You can shut up now, f/a/ggots.
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>>189310266
Kojima is an asshole
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>>189310266
Kojima doesn’t draw
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>>189310266
Kojima's the epitome of a pseud
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"Ree he traced"
Obviously you've never seen an artist do his work then. It's called a reference photo, even your favorite animators and artists like Yutakaka Nakamura and Hiroyuki Imaishi use other artist's stuff as a reference, whether it's used as inspiration or as an "original work." Hating on Ilya Kvshinov for being a fan of anime and wanting to draw these scenes in his own style or using his own skill is an insult to tons of artists and animators, amateurs and professionals. It's not simply "tracing." I could bring up any number of good artists and you'll see that they, too, have done what Kvshinov has.
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>>189310266
Literally who?
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>>189280941
the vocalist died, and i doubt the understudy for her is any good.
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What the hell happened to my major
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>>189310397
hi
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>>189310397
What's up Ilya-kun!!!
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>>189310266
>OMG MY E-CLEB RT HAHA
Fucking kill yourself normalfag
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Seem like if it a literal-who artist then it tracing but if it a famous hack then it's "heavily references" huh
Lmao what a fucking clown world
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>>189310662
Could you give some examples of legitimately famous illustrators tracing over other artists’ works? Obvious homages/comedic references don’t count, and neither does photobashing. At this point I’m just curious.
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Seriously what the hell happened to this look
Why did it had to get so radically changed
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>>189310815
The only one i can think of right now is the guy that draw for NGNL Light novel
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>>189310905
>>189310506
same thing that happened to the original look

failure to replicate
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>>189310815
Togashi
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reee what the fuck happen to my Major? she looked fine like this!!!
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>>189310905
Yeah the biggest problem I have with this design is that she doesn’t even look like herself. There is not one bit of semblance between her past looks and this one showcased here, except uhh, her eyebrows are still furrowed I guess? Obviously his style strays completely far off from the rest of the ones used in the franchise, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing, but he should’ve at least took the initiative to pay more attention to the features of her design and tried his best to adapt them into his own style, while simultaneously keeping somewhat of her same look.
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>>189310266
who?
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>>189280474
jesus fuck that 3DCG looks awful
fucking why
WHY
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>>189280878
Oh boy, the whole tracing vs referencing argument. If I learned anything from the toyotaro scandal, it's that most ppl cant tell the difference from a trace and a reference
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Why did it had to be fucking 3DCG
just WHY
You're grabbing a legendary series known for high quality shit in all of their animations, then you shit out this, the scarjo garbage and arise.

God it hurts being a gits autist
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>>189293302
>Netflix show
So you mean literally and completely forgotten about 1 week after release?
When has a straight-to-Netflix anime show ever gained popularity?
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>>189280474
Fuck you all, I trust Kenji Kamiyama to keep the dream alive
you contrarians need to kill yourselves if life is so miserable that even a SAC reboot under Kamiyama is shit-tier for you
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>>189311041
NYEH!
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>>189280474
Isn't this the artstyle from that russian girl?
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Jesus christ nobody is reading a fucking thing and it's just the same replies being repeated
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>>189311559
He hasn't been good in years. The Ultraman anime was mediocre. Same with his Cyborg 009 stuff he made.
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>>189311559
I don't give a flying shit who's behind it if the product looks bad.
Every fucking season it's something like this.
Something looks bad from a mile away.
They KNOW it's bad, so they keep pushing the fact that x guy is behind it when he probably didn't even had much input at all.

Or even worse, entire projects hyped up just by the inclusion of a single person, when you have no clue what that person is even doing, how much they're contributing and even more importantly, who was working with that person in their previous projects, who may very well had more of an impact than the "famed" collaborator.
Good projects are the result of many people doing good work on it, unless that person was in charge of almost everything and extremely key to the project it doesn't matters that much in the grand scheme of things, and even then if they were, there's so many factors that can completely change future projects.

When has this shit ever actually worked before because I see this shit constantly and they're always completely forgotten and a total flop.
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>>189280700
>>189280779
Retards
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>>189310815
togashi
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>>189280474
looks like tumblr tier trash
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>>189288343
The ancient CGI in SAC is charming in a PS1-era graphics kind of way.
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>>189311242
What's awful about it?
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>>189312209
it really is, the intro is top comfy despite being obviously dated.
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>>189310506
Too good for this world.
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>>189280551
I googled "イリヤクブシノブ(ilya kuvshinov) トレース(trace)","イリヤクプシノフ パクリ(plagiarism)" and so on
Japanese don't know about it and are admiring the Russian weeb
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>>189280474
I love his art style, so I'm interested. Bought that fucker's calendar.
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>>189311041
yep
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O MY TRACED REFERENCES
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>>189280878
I don't think it's plagiarism to re-draw an image you like, artists do that shit all the time
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>>189280474
Bitch ass nigga had one job and cant even trace the Major right or do it justice, JUST.



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