>made 116 million on an 8 million budget Holy fuck how?!
>>185814337Chadly sugoi power
Animators in Japan are criminally underpaid, and when they aren't, the animation is outsourced to Taiwan or China.DBS: Broly would have cost ten times more if it was made in the US, and probably done worse
You just witnessed the power of the legendary super saiyan.
>children are easily impressionable>manchildren eat any shit because muh nostalgiasee all the nintendrones and sonyggers defending their shit corporations on /v/
>>185814440That explains why western animation is dead/been stagnant for 20 years
>>185814337I believe it’s 8 million production budget but advertisement budget is another 8mil on top.
Because it's a great movie
Dragon Piece Superb : Bururee
amazing what you can do without (((creative accounting))) innit
i hope they use this money for getting more better animator for super so they can replace the shitty onesor get more experienced/veteran writers for dbs manga so they can release manga weekly or fortnightly not monthly
>>185817305Yeah because the top execs totally aren't going to pocket 98% of the profits for themselves and spread thin the other 2% to the rest of the company....
>>185814337This is what happens when you give a damn.
>>185814337because retards keep sucking toriyama's cock, that's whymainly niggers and spics
>>185814337A rounding chorus of gleeful 'harumph'!> Eureka
>>185817305𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕤𝕙𝕚𝕥𝕥𝕪 𝕒𝕟𝕚𝕞𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝕚𝕤 𝕨𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕝𝕖𝕥'𝕤 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕜𝕟𝕠𝕨 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕙𝕠𝕝𝕕 𝕪𝕠𝕦𝕣 𝕕𝕠𝕔𝕚𝕝𝕖 𝕞𝕒𝕤𝕥𝕦𝕣𝕓𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣𝕪 𝕝𝕚𝕗𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕪𝕝𝕖 𝕚𝕟 𝕔𝕠𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕞𝕡𝕥 𝕒𝕤 𝕚𝕥 𝕕𝕖𝕤𝕖𝕣𝕧𝕖𝕤.
>>185819285That's the way baby, shake it.
>>185816143>Goku and Vegeta as stale as ever>rushed Minus parts>Broly isn't a menacing antagonist because Vegeta and Gogeta both made him their little bitch>characters fail to sell (like in wrestling) each other moves>massive flanderization>Freezer is now a gag character and a rehashed Commander Red>Vegeta tried to murder Broly>Gogeta tried to murder the good-hearted Broly, then allowed Freezer to escape right after he tried to murder two inoccent peopleMinus parts (even if rushed) and Broly / Cheelai / Lemo interactions were the only saving graces of this terrible movie
>>185814337>8 million budgetI can't help but feel bad for those slave animators in moonland.
>>185819190Your pic intrigues me.Source?
>>185819532𝕐𝕠𝕦 𝕥𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕞𝕖 𝕨𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕖 𝕞𝕪 𝕙𝕠𝕥 𝕓𝕚𝕥𝕔𝕙 𝕓𝕖𝕤𝕥 𝕗𝕣𝕚𝕖𝕟𝕕 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕞𝕪 𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤𝕖 𝕘𝕒𝕟𝕘𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕣 𝕙𝕦𝕤𝕓𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕒𝕣𝕖 𝕞𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖 𝕞𝕦𝕥𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕘𝕚𝕣𝕝.
>>185819519At least they get good animationHave you seen the state of animation in the United States?
>>1858143378 million is a big budget for anime movie, it's literally at least half of budget Spirited Away had and probably the most expensive Dragon Ball movie (for example, Resurrection F had 5 million budget).Healthy production schedule, during the production of anime TV show Nagamine claimed that Toei, when it came to quality control did nothing but encourage "do your best!". However, while working on the movie he claimed to have been able to go home before the sunset for 2 months. Most animators sleep in their studios. Toei finally woke up and decided to bring in quality to the anime themselves, so let's hope it's only chapter 1 of their redemption arc.
Holy shit, how can DB chads be so based?
>>185819763Castlevania had like 1-2 well animated episodes each season.
>here's your imponent main villain bro
Based and canon
>we need to hype up the main villain bro, make him feel threatening in a planet with a magic dragon and a God of Destructionsay no more
>>185820397vegeta withdrew from battle when broly started powering uphe saved himself from a beating
>>185814337Spics like nu Dragon Ball
>>185820066>>185820167>>185820328Why couldn't this movie just end with Vegeta beating Broly?
>>185821987>vs El Grande Goku Blanco
>>185814337Well, no need for a script writer since 85% of the movie consists solely of the letter あI guess that helped keep the cost down.What the shit was the boxing like announcer shouting shit in the background, jesus fuck
>>185819773Around episode 75, Super started to feel like someone was putting effort to bring it to acceptable level.
>>185821492Cause jobeta is weaker than base goku.
>>185820167>>185820328>can't even fend him off with ssJobeta will always be a joke.
>>185819488>gohanspic didn't watch the movieI wouldn't either if my favorite character spent all his time jobbing.
>>185821987The entire episode will be Kakashi vs Itachi, the boy tuffle will be a shot for shot of Vegeta becoming as like the sun in the TOP.
>>185819968Stupid fcucking arsehole, that was the greatest fanfic ever, just accept it was...incomplete.>We four emperors finale
>>185825361What was that JOBly? I couldn't hear you over Gogeta beating your ass.
>>185825419Who is this jobber again? I don't remember seeing him in the movie.
>>185815189I wouldn't say as long as 20 years. they just stopped trying entirely fairly recently though, like 2015.all /co/ talks about now is cape movies now. That's how dead cartoons are.
>>185820176Just like PanBased and DBGT pilled
>>185819804Why is he suffering that much? That doesn't looks as painful vs slamming into mountains and other landmasses
>>185825419>A-AAHHH HALF-DAD HELP ME CHADLY IS SHOWING HIS HUGE BULDGING COCK!
>>185814337Cause broly draws dimes.
>>185825419Disobeying mass economics for super powers, you better believe that's a paddlin'!
>>185819488Freeza was in full Neko Majin mode, which you don't know about because you're a raging anime-only.
>>185819804>this bitch tried to use a rasengan on brolyno wonder he got rekt. needs to AT LEAST be rasenshuriken to do anything.
>>185825473Why would he have to step in? He knows the fusion win button would be enough.
>>185814337Better question, how is it that a rehash manages to be better than all of super?
>>185825575FOOL, HE WAS SHINING WITH A B-BALLING POWER! THAT HAND OF HIS TOLD HIM WHO BEST GIRL REALLY IS!!!!!
>>185816085That's still making back 10x the cost
>>185825549AHHHH CHEELAI HELP!!!!!
Reminder Best Couple saved the franchise. Also where are the "It Flop" faggots at?
>>185825612Cause super set the bar so low for obvious reasons but no one ever wants to admit it.
Reminder that Goku could've used Hakai on Broly. Meaning he's technically below blue tier.
>>185825625Phase two: Russel Crowes Robin Hoodwink.<
>>185825660That's cause anyone who shits on super is a GTfag according to /a/.
>>185825699Xicor got your tongue there Keniichi?
>>185825576Jobhan is too weak to be relevant.
>>185825894Thanks for reinforcing my point.
>>185825894>jobbed to each other>whole fight gets skipped cause they're both literal fodderSpics being delusional again I see.
>>185825830>Captain William Guile, YOU. ARE. A. BIGOT!> Do I hate the gays !? Are you serious?> When you young ladies have done some growing up, join Shadowlaw. We don't discriminate based off of two mature people loving whom they want.>Farewell Captain William Guile, you've got some thinking to do!>BISON! FINKLE IS EINHORN, EINHORN IS FINKLE>Bro what?>>185825894Almost politically correct Cabba.
>Shithanfags sperging out again
>>185819488average gohanfag everyone
THIS is the only canon part of Dragonballhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBQxA1bMqB4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLSXKnG_ka4
>>185826040Well, yes you are shit, but that's on you little cancer muffin, not that you're listening.>You madam, are no lady. Good day!
>>185825960Kelfa literally admits that she's no match in comparison to the U7 saiyans. She admitted defeat at that point. Why do you think Gohan and kelfafags weren't sperging over the ending?
>yes I would like one copy of dragon ball super broly on blu ray please!
>>185826192What was that gundam thing they did, I could look it up but honestly it would take this thread in a better direction if it just sort of happened here...
>>185825644>B-BEAT HIM HARDER DAD...! HE'S SMACKING HIS DICK WITH MINE NOW AAAAAAAAAA
>>185826220Shut up (SEELE) you're a nutty as someone who likes fruitcake.
>>185814337I honestly don't understand, db viewership ratings crashed at the end of dbs and it got cancelled, and somehow the movie did well? guess gotta blame casualfags and normalfags who fell for the hype
>>185826393No super was just that bad.
>>185820167goku and vegeta were villains you braindead retard, why can't anyone understand tori's intentions?
>>185826393Sorry, Super anime =/= super movie
>>185826445GOKU is the villain, Vegeta is merely a test to measure your strength against the main villain
>>185826605>>185826649>broly a good guy>try to muder him>friendly with frieza>frieza conquering universe and kills goku's parentsyou have to be a fucking plant to not see it, also he always wrote db like this
>>185827086And then he did.
>>185827106wait a sec, when did Frieza melts his face? is this when he's floating in the space?
>>185827106This was after the vassal took him out only for some twink mutt bastard to turn him to confetti. Still, Fridge did well to be born just to die in his Prince's place (too popular to kill off).
>>185814337vic is a rapist
Why didn't Gohan wait and see if Kefla would attack Goku or Jiren after launching her ki attack? If she attacked Jiren then she would've gotten knocked out and Gohan would still be in.
>>185826948Is it me or does Goku look really creepy here?
>>185827253>killed zarbon>killed recoome>krillin did nothing
>>185827310yeah, he's going to rape them in court. how terrible
>>185819285Source for that font?
>>185827329its not just you
>>185827320They needed a way to get rid of the two jobbers without interfering.
>>185827396Such lust for jobbing to his Prince.
>>185827320The more I look at Goku and Jiren in the bottom right panel the more I laugh.
>>185827175His face got blown up when Goku returned fire after giving him some energy to keep on living. By some miracle he survived both Goku's blast and Namek exploding.If it werent for King Cold, Freeza would've died in space.
>>185827476yeah, thanks for clarifying, need to rewatch Z someday to refresh my memory
>>185827320Wait, is Gohan floating in midair? Wasnt it a rule in the ToP that you couldnt fly whatsoever?
>>185827460now you've mentioned it, Goku is a midget here, fucking toyohack is at it again
>>185827580they can just play it off as a jump
>>185827476death seems preferable to the hideous cybernetics they rigged him up with. holy shit it sucks not to have your own gero. may as well put a fucking spoiler on him while you're at it
>>185814337It's because his skin is cold.
>>185826527>when you hear bejita is about to kiss your wife
>>185827979>uses Kamehameha instead of superior moves in his DNA>could have won with just GGThe perfect retard.
>>185828035>it was just Videl's turn again>>185828058>too smart to defeat one-armed Gohan
>Stronger than Majin BuuWho wrote this shit?
>>185828097GT suffered from a severe case of power creep.
Who could he defeat in Super?
>>185814494Pretty much this. It was like TLJ all over again.
>>185814337because it was good
>>185827396It's you, it's always been your xeno inability to know when someone is...striking a pose.>"I leave the future to these children"
>>185814337The franchise will make toei money forever, DBS will never animate end of Z. Mark my words.
>>185828311Honestly they should just retcon it at this point.
>>185828213At the very least, he's strong enough to beat SSB Goku. God ki has proven time and again to be absolutely worthless and more of a detriment than anything.
>>185828097What's the problem? Everybody is stronger than Majin Buu now.
>>185828372>God ki has proven time and again to be absolutely worthless and more of a detriment than anything.in your headcanon
>>185828456there was never a random mook stronger than buu as far as i recall
Whens next Heroes episode?
>>185828541either about 2 weeks or a month from the previous episde
>>185828456Don't say that, you'll trigger powerlevelfags.
anyone got a link to the movie ?
>>185828498>loses to laser beam>loses to sHit>loses to purple slime>knocked around endlessly by edgy goku and faggot kai three times, even a fusion is utterly useless and fucking Trunks has to save them>smacked up and down by kale and caulifla and countless other ToP mooks>the pride troopers>nubroly>android 17 is able to go toe-to-toe with blue>literally incapable of using it against moroThis isn't even my headcanon, this is Troiyama's. Blue hair is pathetic.
>>185828498what is the name of this attack
>>185828794SS>Couldnt even kill frieza on its intro>lost an arm and a life to delinquents>Jobs to heart attack and 19>jobs to deliquents again>jobs to ego which causes a spine break>gave up against a bug>went completely almost obselete since then and only amplies Spirit Bomb during a bubblegum arcSS2>Jobs to ego and kills a father>lose an arm and needs a support to kill a single bug>Cheesed by a pussy princess>Jobs to fat bubblegum>Full power only managed to reach 10%(?) of GoD's power>Evenly matched to a base nigger>pairs up with a LSS and still jobs to a red God>Fucked by a lizardSS3do i really need to tell you this one?SSJ4>Already almost got surpassed by a baby during its debut>paralyzes when an android looks at him on the eye>Super Kino Fist is kino though but its against an underling>is needed to lift a building>Make a non-jobbing fusion jobs to hell and beyondyou get my point? nothing is perfect
>>185829118not implemented in any video games because dimps is a hack, lets hope arcsys is different than them
>>185828794>smacked up and down by kale and caulifla>cauliflaokay now that one literally never happened
>>185827650>Not wanting to be the jockstrap cyborgPATHETIC
>>185829483if i want to be a cyborg i'd at least want to look like 13,16,17, or 18 for women
>>185827476I've just realized mecha frieza is a cool foreshadow for the androids. It's funny because the, arguably more technologically advanced, frieza force makes such a shitty robot in contrast to the red ribbon army.
>>185819488>Being this retardedSorry Cuckhan fans
>>185814494NOOOO DBS BROOOS STOP HIM
>>185814337definitely dropping these threads if nothing interesting happens next chapter.
Soul vs Soulless
>>185814494>sony boogeymansony fans do not exist on the internet. or they're certainly too casual to bother with dedicated videogame discussion websites.
how do you even become a bejitafag. how does that happen, how do you end worshipping the second biggest jobber in the series, then again, gokek, shitly and weakren are not any better. imagine being a jobgetafag, or worse. a jobhantardimagine being a db(og-z-kai-gt-s), jesus
>>185830130>how do you even become a bejitafagby having a brain and good taste. unlike goku and his fanboys.
>>185829962When did Toriyama's art start to decline?
>>185830382after goku turns into super saiyan for the first time
>>185830130>how do you even become a bejitafagVegeta practically carries Dragonball on his back. Every moment of this guy on screen is guaranteed to be top quality. Galick Gun, Final Flash, Final Explosion, Trunks death, passing his energy to Gonigger to fight Jiren; all great and memorable moments. Let's not forget Chadgeta had the best character development in Z.Everyone accepts that Offensive Ultra Instinct Vegeta would have been kino of the highest order, unfortunately Toriyama settled for mediocrity with Gocuck.
>>185820167>>185820066>>185820066Vegeta is so fucking jacked in this movie. How do I get that body?
>a-ahhh n-no NO KAKAROT-SAMA N-NOT THERE>IM SORRY PICCOLO SAN
>>185830613>weakren jobbing to jobgeta>gokek looking like a cuck>quality looks so bad it might pass as an actual chapterkek since when toei hires spic animators
>>185814337>sells better than your fave>homosexuals still in denial..."n-not showing up again...hehehe..."How does he do it?
Is Omega Shenron a good final boss?
So are the BD's going to be extended editions?
>>185826276Se Jun Kim is a korean japanese
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DRAGONBALL OCs
>>185830663Your Burt and Ernie adult fanfiction is anything but adult I should have you know.
>>185831080He's super duper strong and bad ass and has a huge dick and fucks all of the girls in the franchise.
>>185831080Rikuumu: Ore no na wa RikuumuSaikyou no pawaa saO-inochi wo choudai shichau kara ne (Touh!!)Urutora faiteinguMirakuru bonbaa deKasa wa min'na o souji shichau yoBaata: Ore ga Baata saAoi harikeen saWow muteki no supiidoBoth: Yes, we are!!Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshiNaku komo damaru ze Ginyuu TokusentaiYes, we are!!Supesharu faitingu poozu woMisete yarouSono utsukushisa ni, sahHizamazuku ga ii (Tokusentai x4)Jiisu: Ore koso Jiisu daAkai maguma to yobeOre ga tokusentai No.2 daKurasshaa booru deKawaigatte yarou ka?Kawaigarutte, yoshiyoshi janai zoGurudo: Gurudo wa ore daJikan tomete yarouWow, hontou no esupaa saBoth: Yes, we are!!Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshiOre-tachi tenka no Ginyuu TokusentaiYes, we are!!Oyatsu wa chokoreeto pafe deKimari nano saOmae ni wakete nadoYaranai kara na (Tokusentai x4)Ginyuu: Ore-sama ga Ginyuu daTaichou to yobareruKisama no chikara subete miseru ga iiFuriiza-sama no tameOre wa tatakau no daKisama ga dare de arou to mo taosuKouei ni omoeYorokobi no dansu oIma, misete yarou janai kaAll: Yes, we are!!Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshiKaeru wa kirai da Nazeka wakaran gaYes, we are!!Junban kime wa kouhei ni naJanken dazoSenshi wa fea nanodaOboetoku ga ii (Tokusentai x4)Yes, we are!!Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshiNaku komo damaru ze Ginyuu TokusentaiYes, we are!!Supesharu faitingu poozu woMisete yarouSono utsukushisa ni, sahHizamazuku ga ii (Tokusentai x4)PLAY IT AGAIN SAM!!!
>>185829118We'll let you know once Akatsuki releases his card with this attack
>>185814337Because it cashed in on 3 different demos of the same fandom>nostalgic Dragonball fans, ever present>DBSuper fans, hungry for more after the ToP ended>Chadly fans, frothing at the canonness of it all
>>185830861He looks cool at least.
>>185831491>DBSuper fans, hungry for more after the ToP endedJirenfags hates us to death though
How often do you think 18 asks Krillin to invite Goku over to their house?
>>18583175818 times for 18 months/year i think
>>185826393DBS was still making great ratings, never left top 10, it had to go against Kamen Rider, the merchandise sales skyrocketed, even Gundam made nothing compared to it. Don't believe /a/'s lies
>>185825656They achieved victory through the power of love.
>>185832497>Dogly and ShreklaiInto the trash they go
>>185814337animations, not a hack story, not ONIONS boy orientated
>>185832600Stay mad, faggot.
>>185832636>not ONIONS boy orientatedSSG is still on the movie but it's kino
>>185825478legitimate mental illness and retardation has taken deep root in the US when it comes to the way things are drawn.>inb4 its not just animating
>>185825240well broly is extremely powerful at birth and a mutant like frieza. Just wish toriyama would bring back the use of a tail. Give it to U6 Saiyans I dont care, the tail was cool as fuck to have. but he wont, my guess is that the tail represents the childlike mind set of saiyans in a literature sense. or maybe he just doesnt like drawing them anymore.
>>185814337Toyotaro, save us....
>>185833052>maybe he just doesnt like drawing them anymore.That's exactly why. First he had the invader Saiyans wear them like belts around their waist, then he just got rid of them altogether.
>>185832989>like a mirror
>>185829451You're right - he bred them instead
I want erasa to ss goten
Why does my best girl never get any love? Amazing mom that puts her children above all else, caring wife that helps your slacker butt prioritize responsibility and is a literal princess.
>>185834813>>185834855>>185835121????????>The spice must stop - bleak spiral lifeform
>>185835371>literal princess.Princess of what exactly, there's no mountain left and the royal coffers are empty
>>185835609Mountains only require assistance and you'll see them practically (*pop*) spring up from the ground like magic lass!
>Goku marries the daughter of a man nicknamed "the demon ox king">Gohan marries the daughter of a man nicknamed "mister Satan"I can't believe Goten is gonna marry the daughter of Molo(ch)
At one point Bulma thought about getting with Goku. Is this the only time she thinks that?
>>185814494sponsored by microsoft
>>185830661well, here's the roadmap to that1. kill yourself2. be isekai'd into the dragon ball universe3. be reborn as a saiyan4. train your fucking ass off5. ???6. profitso, it only takes the first step to achieve your dreams. go for it, anon
>>185830861He looks good, but the fight against him was bad. Well, every fight after the comedy dragons died was bad.
>>185836589>>185831525>looks gooddo.. do you not have eyes? looks lame as fuckthe concept behind the "evil" shenrons wasn't half bad, but they all looked stupid as fuck
>>185836619>looks lameHe looked amazing compared to your dickhead jobber, another Evil Goku and a random Alien.Those are your canon villains.
>>185836484When she sees Goku after the 3 year timeskip in DB
>>185836484>all we ever do is fightI'll never understand that. It's so out of character for Yamcha.
>>185836619took a look at them againonly black smoke shenron looks decent>>185836655technically goku black was the first canon evil goku, turles was a lazy as fuck concept.
>>185836729Come on, Yamcha is a cheater!
>>185836768Lazier still the former scribe who decided someone else's problems entitled him to turn into a rude as shit do nothing for the sake of ... I don't know what, but you can't seem to stop screaming at a facsimile of your personal gripes. But maybe that's all you were aiming for throughout, a childish retaliation. Lazy, no they're fatigued.
>>185836772Yamcha has visited Chedder (village)
>>185836619He was the final boss, so he had to look 'serious', while the weird designs were used for the comedy dragons. Outside of his face being Dabra's, he's fine. Super 17 and the 'stronger than Majin Buu' guy are worse.
>>185814337>Holy fuck how?!Hispanic people
>dead thread >dead series
>>185814494Broly SPICS beat into the dirt by fellow Chadhanfag
>>185814337You fucking inbred don't add something after DBS
>new game/movie/supplementary material comes out>Features a new Saiyan "designed by Akira Toriyama!"I'm so fucking sick of Saiyans, lads
>>185838587the only saiyan that should get a spotlight from now on is Gohan
>>185838664It was his turn
>>185814337Broly, Merica, and Spainards
>>185836484It's because Bulma's an insecure twat. Her relationship with Vegeta works because he'said too autistic for her to justifiably accuse him of cheating.
>>185838587The new Heroes game has a non-saiyan character created by Toyo.
>>185830382it's easy to tell he stopped caring during android/cell and was just phoning it in.he said in an interview he purposely tried to make it suck so it would get canceled but it didn't work.
>>185838587This is why the return of Broly was so disappointing to me honestly. I would have been so fucking hyped if I didn't already feel so burnt out by Saiyans
>>185838587the only saiyans that should get a spotlight from now on are Gohan and the cutegang>>185825361>posts an image from a movie where Gohan and Goten killed Broly>>185826060>>185829660i accept your concession>>185825562read all the Neko Majin chapters and some other side stuff from Toriyama like JiyaNeko Majin was a parody and not supposed to be canon with the regular DB timeline
>>185828794>loses to sHitnot canon>loses to purple slimenot canon>knocked around endlessly by edgy goku and faggot kai three times, even a fusion is utterly useless and fucking Trunks has to save themedgy goku had god ki, trunks doing anything isn't canon>smacked up and down by kale and caulifla and countless other ToP mooksnot canon>the pride troopersjiren and toppo, guess who's a god and who was trained by an ancient being who knew a GoD before they became a GoD>android 17 is able to go toe-to-toe with bluenot canon
Gohan is stronger than SSB Goku as demonstrated in the ToP and Gary Stu 17 is on the same ballpark of Goku and Vegeta per Goku's own admission
>>185839497He looks weird with brown hair
How fucked would the heroes be if Zamasu fused with Jiren instead of Goku?
because the black holocaust has yet to happen
>>185839912Anime Zaren would probably still get corruptedManga Zaren would fuck them up no question
>>185830814what is kuji
>>185839991Sorry whiteboi your women belong to us now.
>>185836768>Black was the first Evil Goku because *insert nonsensical excuses!!*Next thing you're going to tell me that nuBroly is the first Broly because muh canon
So at this point it's pretty obvious to everyone who isn't retarded that CHADhan is the strongest warrior in U7, surpassed only by the angels, UI Goku, and fusions, and Jiren in U11, but just in case there are still fucking morons out there who deny it, I'll deign to remind you:>Kale>Golden Freeza, stated to be the most dangerous fighter in the ToP by Vados>Kale and Caulifla fused to create Kefla, who is dozens of times stronger than Kale due to fusion>stated by Vados that Kefla is the ultimate warrior in the ToP, even after seeing suppressed Jiren in action, who is stronger than the GoDs>she even mentions Kefla may be unmatched>POWERFULhan proves her wrong and BTFOs Kefla, proving GODhan>Kefla>GODhan>Kefla>Suppressed Jiren>GoDs>Gocuck>JobetaAnd there you have it. Logical and factual scaling proving that CHADhan has indeed surpassed the realm of the GoDs. You're welcome.
>>185839338>not canon17denialfags still exist?
>>185819488>FreezerLiteral spic detected.
>>185840569could be baguette
>>185820176>>185825483Non-canon and irrelevant spicbait, cope Pedro and Jose.
>>185825699>you have to be below the Hakai user in power for it to workAh, this headcanon again I see.
>>185826885>f-fuck you you're just stupid, accept my headcanon goddamn it
>>185838778He looks swole as fuck in that pic
>>185840495IT'S NOT FAIR BROSIT WAS SUPPOSED TO FAIL
>>185827320Because Kefla is stronger than both suppressed Jiren and Goku, Gohan knew the blast would either knock them out or kill them so he had to save Goku
>>185828290if you don't shut the fuck up i'm going to come beat the fucking shit out of you
>>185828372That's some spicy headcanon you've got there, Juan Manuel
>>185840927>n-no trust me I know the author's intention, he told meStupid Mexican.
>>185840629Almost as bad
>>185825478comics are still decent if you know where to look. First Second always puts out good stuff. But yes, comics are dead. Viz consistently beats Marvel and DC
GT GOKU CONFIRMED FOR FIGHTERZhttp://ryokutya2089.com/archives/18430
>>185841160Nobody gives a fuck about your watered-down shitty babby's first fighter, go back to /v/ and die there.
>>185841160what a fucking joke, but the fanbase will eat this shit upeven a forgotten character like General Blue would be more interesting than the 5 Gokeks and Jobetas in the game
>>185841160>another GokuThe game is dead
>>185840469What if Vados was wrong
>>185841189This. Melee is infinitley superior
>>185841160GOKUCHADS WIN AGAIN
>>185841424>>185841275>>185841262>>185841465The best part is that it's only base+SS3 GT Gokuno SS4
>>185841373Melee isn't even a fighting game, nintendrone. it's just a side view Poy Poyi'm going back to /v/
>>185840495Remember when retards mongoloids here said it was flopping? kek
>>185841491Honestly what do you do all day? Why do you care about Gohan this much?
>>185825894Not canon.Only Frieza was done better in the manga.
>>185841593I also remember the Yamoshits.
>>185841618>I don't like it so it's not canon
>>185841627That Yamoshi argument was absolutely retarded
>>185841679Those faggots went silent so fucking fast
>>185834562He fucked Caulifla in the ass though, wich is better anyway.
>>185819804I don't know why but it looks terrible.>Slow, yet cannot convey power because the impacts are insignificant>Lots of "SWOOSH" and special effects where there is no move that would warrant such>Goku's face make no sense, his sense of pain makes no sense. Goku would be distressed, sure, but the other OVA shown us pain=/=Distress better (like the ball punch from C13)>Too static for the protagonist, movement is only implied by having a spastic autistic shaking camera angles>The face-shredding against the wall of ice lacks impact, would have been much better if all of goku's body was rammed inside of it. We would get Broly' strenght much betterLong story short, I have no idea why anyone says it is a remotely good movie.
>>185841960You have no taste and should be killed.
>GT Goku>but uses the Nyoi bo and never goes SS4Kek, it's basically Path to the Power Goku with end of the manga Goku's transformation
>>185841485Don't care. Chad Kid Goku is in and he's got Super Saiyan transformations.
>>185842018>>185842029I accept your retarded concessions, GTspics.
>>185841627>Broly is and always will be non-canonand he's right, new "Broly" is only Broly in name, it's a completely new character who shares the name because Toriyama's assistant was a smart guy and suggested milking the name for marketing reasons
>>185842094>the one lonely Yamoshitter still trying desperately to damage control
I wonder why original Paragus didn't take Broly and join the Frieza Force again? He would've been taken in the same as Vegeta and the others right?
>>185819804>>185841960I mean, look at the scene where he spins him off, it tries to be fast with lines and "swooshes" but it is slow as fuck, and yet it doesn't seem powerful (which should be the intended effect)I will agree that the face-body slam feels satisfying, but then you have the stupid "look ! His consciousness is flickering" narutard-animu style. No broken bones, no holds, no environmental destruction, no deep impact, everything feels shallow.Plus, let's not forget : >1h30 long movie>Litterally nothing happens in the first 1h10>Retcons Bardock'story to superman tier-level stupid>Cheelai's a good addition, and Broly's rework works, I agree, however it takes just too much goddamn time to see the action coming, and the characters are in their "SUPER" mindset, which is shit>Gogeta should have barely, just barely lost, and be saved by the bell when Chee used the dragon balls, thus motivating Goku and Vegeta to grow even stronger. As it stands, Broly is litterally a non-menace, and will never, ever win anything.
>>185841980You are underage and shouldn't be using the internet.
>>185842136Your taste is objectively wrong. Commit suicide for the greater good.
>>185841160So, does this mean we're getting Baby Vegeta?
>3 (THREE) Gohans in the game now>still 0 characters from Cuckgangoh no no no no no no nooo!!
>>185842111i don't give a shit about Yamoshit
>>185841160Kekflafags about to get dabbed on!
>>185842116>>185842143It isn't, it's valid critisism, the fact that your baby autistic feelings can't handle different opinions than yours says a lot more about you than you should be decently comfortable with.Now, if you look at this (and mute the sound), you can pinpoint much better what I was trying to say :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiotTftADOcI will agree that it is not as fast as I remember, so I will strike it off the list, but the impacts are there, and the inertia that you're supposed to feel is there as well. It plays much more on passive-environmental destruction, and steady camera angles to show the action and the impact (except when he's running), you see every consequence each hit has (and not just by """"ZOOM-ing"""" on Goku's glottis everytime he's hit).I agree that the artstyle is fresh new, and better. It's just the movement/impacts that feel/look weird.I would make another example by comparing 2 episodes of Tom and Jerry (one from the earlier times, and one from the more recent ones), but I have no more time for this. The only reason you all think it's a "good" movie is because you have been fed shit by DBSuper so hard and for so long that you forgot what it was to have great action sequences that were not just "well drawn", but "well felt".
>>185814337Remember when Friezafags were saying it would flop compared to their movie? Hahaha they must be feeling pretty stupid now
>>185842446>absolutely no arguments outside of buzzwords and "muh feelings", "muh impact"You're just a nostalgia-blind retarded fuckwit cocksucker that thinks new=bad and old=good regardless of actual quality. I hope you actually die very soon.
>>185842044>say it's just Path to the Power Goku with DBZ Goku, nothing from GT>(You) call me GTspicAre you braindead?
>>185827253don't forget being sat on by kid gohan
>GT Kid Goku is in FighterZSo, is Pan going to be his partner?
i invite you all to concede to me
>>185842651Level 3 incoming broswe won again
>>185842738>GTspics have to cling to a shitty fighting game>Jobrenturds have to cling to Pedroes>Superchads are on top of the world
>>185842738His Level 3 is apparently the Universal Spirit Bomb.He also has a hidden Level 3, so either SS4 or Dragon Fist.
>>185842488I'm sorry, they didn't teach you the concept of inertia in school yet, and you didn't experience it for yourself since you cannot get out of your fat burger basement.>Using "muh">Thinking I'm against something new>Thinking that you can't criticise baby's new sparkly toyYou sure have a lot of hope for me instead of having some for yourself, zoomer. You probably though that RoF was the best movie ever.
>>185842769>Superchads are stuck in a drama about some literalwho dubfaggotkek
>>185842018Wooow, remind me again when Goku went SS3 in Path to Power
>>185842018>Can turn SS3>Has the Universal Spirit Bomb>Whatever the fuck his hidden level 3 isI didn't see any of that shit in Path to Power
>>185842952And he's probably going to talk about being shrunken in his intro/outro.But that's clearly DB Goku and not GT!!!
What did they mean by this?do you think we'll get even more manservice in the future?
>GTspics wonOk if Super Baby 2 is with I'll accept. If it's faggot Omega Shenron it's a failure.
>>185842907>GTjuan can't read
>>185843022That Cumber can tap into the same berserker power Broly and Kale have, except it's orange instead of green.
Favorite Gohan Forma ?
>>185842877>strawman arguments nowYawn, I accept your concession, nostalgiaboomer.
>>185842878>implying the dub is at all relevantThe new Super movie is the 11th highest grossing anime movie of all time, the Super manga is continuing, the merchandise continues to outsell Kamen Rider and Gundam, and when the anime returns the quality will be movie-level. Cope.
>>185843081calvo for sure
>>185842941I win and you lose.
>>185843076His SS has always been orange
>>185842877>strawman>ad hominem>still no real argumentsKek, you can't even properly defend your retarded nostalgia you fucking sperg
>>185843081Blanco El Diablo Calvo
So does this mean we're also getting another GT Goku who's in SS4?
>>185843135That is true, but this is the first time a Berseker/Legendary transformation hasn't been green. Something really weird is going on with Cumber...
>>185843172either he will be part of GT Goku's other level 3 or he is gonna be in season 3
>>185843172His super can maybe turn him into SS4, similar to how Frieza's super turns him golden.
Is this the most underrated form in the series?Nobody talks about itHe only uses it for 2 minutesIt looks cool as fuck
>>185843308Both Baby Trunks and Oren Vegeta use that form.
>>185819285>retard fontGet the fuck out newfag.
>>185843260Golden Freeza is just a recolor, SS4 Goku would have to have a unique model.
>>185843084>concessionLitterally has nothing to bring to the debate, nor any way to counter anything I said with anything else but "Yuh feelz">>185843148Against a "kill urself dude xD", there's nothing but good strawmen and ad hominems. Where do you think you are ? As for my argument I offered plenty as to why the outcome of the fighting choreography wasn't as satisfying as how it would have been had they used the proper ways to convey the punches, the slams, the pain and the distress. As it stands, Broly doesn't give the impression of being "powerful", just really, really tanky.
>>185843339Fuck off Mexican
>>185843308This is the most retarded baby form, it looks like Vegeta fucked a living airplane and it gave birth to this thing.
>>185843308all baby forms are kino
>>185843374>it looks like Vegeta fucked a living airplane
>>185843367I already accepted your concession, dog. Stop talking. Common animals don't speak.
>>185843374It's cool as fuck, like there's machine parts growing out of his body.>>185843418This.
>>185841960>I personally dont like this one part, why do people like things I dont like?
tfw when you realize that gohan will be the main character in the new arc
>>185843603Look, it's another stupid spci.
>>185843645He's just a yapping nostalgiadog that wants attention, ignore him
>>185843105>movie level anime adaptationkek
>>185840688>GT>SS4 in Dragonball Heroes>Not canon
>>185843710Pedroes isn't canon, my taco-sucking compadre.
>>185843710All the GTposting paid off, fellow Panbro
>>185843729Super is now over, Heroes is the new canon.
>>185843677the hell is a spci esl cuck?
>>185843846>Super is over>the manga written by Toriyama is still going strongThis is your mind on Pedroes spicfiction.>>185843850Quiet, spic dog. Your master commands you.
>>185843757What if Pan is the character after GT Goku?
>>185843871Cabron arc is shit-tier, cope.
>>185841160>hey we should add some characters like General Tao, Blue, Janemba, Grandpa CHADhan, Roshi, etc... The choices are limitless......>nah lets add another Goku character
>>185828097Do you know how many characters are stronger than Piccolo Daimao now?
>>185844034>b-b-but I don't like itIt's canon and written by Toriyama. Cope, pet.
>>185814494>seething cuckhanfagit was just a good movie that's allmaybe because cuckhan wasn't in it
>>185844050The point is that if Rildo is stronger than Majin Buu, where the fuck has he been this whole time?How is he just a general while Frieza, who he could likely obliterate with a single punch, is an emperor. Why would buu, created to be an ultimate biological weapon by Bibadi, be weaker than a typical mortal
>>185843757>All the GTposting paid offDragonball GT is part of Dragonball history. I think that GT is not appreciated enough, especially when some anons look down on it. Why not just take the time to watch GT?
>>185844157>power-creep makes no sense from plot perspectivewow do tell more
>>185844213Really this is the one instance it doesn't make any fucking sense at all. Most of the time it can be explained or the difference in power is so small it barely matters.Rildo and Broly are the only characters who are too powerful for the plot to make sense
>>185837707Can't hear you that well, huntermumbler.
>>185843912>What if Pan is the character after GT Goku?You mean, Pan being the MC?
>>185835632>making Goku father Bejita's bastard
>>185844157>The point is that if Rildo is stronger than Majin Buu, where the fuck has he been this whole time?15 years passed between the buu arc and gt, and he also got enchanted by dr myuu
>>185836484>>185836677Really dodged a bullet. And it is all thanks to the spite of Toriyama.
>>185844157I'm pretty sure that Riildo was only as strong as Buu after he fused with the planet.
>>185838327>leaksIs it time?
>>185843846>Super is now over, Heroes is the new canon.DBH has SS4, meaning DBGT is canon.
Bulma is cuter than Pan!
BEJITA-SAMA!!! PLEASE KISS MY WIFE!
>>185842448>and that's why you should get Bejita-sama to kiss youWhat did Chi-Chi mean by this?
>>185844422> SO... SORRY KAKAROT I'M BUSY RIGHT NOW... PLEASE GODDESS STOP !!
>>185844440SILENCE DOG! Your master commands you!
>"My favourite part of Dragonball? GT of course, why do ask?"
>>185844489Toasters LOVE him. Then he lets them get absorbed before taking away some midget's best friend (just to beat him up more).
>>185844157If Vegeta and Nappa can get to Goku in ONE (1) year, why is it that only Kami had come to Earth until the Saiyan saga?>>185844269>the one instanceIt's not. It's the one you picked up on. What was stopping Yamcha, Krillin and Tenshinhan reaching over 8,000 before the Androids arc came around? See chapter 338 and 340 for the humans power at that time.
>>185844422Goku-sama, teach me how to go super saiyan 3!
>>185844683You're going to love this.
>Why yes Yamcha is my favorite character. How did you know?
> Every single Saiyan got a new form in ToP Arc> Goku : Ultra Instinct> Vegeta : Evolution> Cabba : SS2> Caulifla : SS2> Kale : SS2> Gohan : ...
>>185844725>Jobgetafags are literal fags
>>185844756God so fucking based
>>185844768No saiyan got a new form in the ToP, tho
Is there a reason we haven't seen Blue 2 or 3 yet?
>>185844504Quiet, my precious pet.
>>185844768> no new form> not in the movie
Why are Vegetafags so cringey?
>>185844782>Gohan getting raped by Broly>Goku Black molesting Vegeta>upset about a jobber form presenting itself for what it isI don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
>ITS FUCKING OVER, PILAF!
>>185844817J-Jiren-sama, I didn't expect to see you here!
> Yes, Broly and Freeza are my favorite characters, now shut up or I call MODS and COPS !!
NOOOooo CHADLY-SAMA, GOMENASAI PLEASE HAVE MERCY I'LL LET YOU KISS BERIBURU
>replying to himselfFucking pathetic.
>>185836516>MicrosoftMicrosoft doesn't even consider their Xbox division a game console anymore and Bill Gates doesn't even give a shit whether the division lives or dies regardless.
>>185844995>the Prince will never get a challenge from a jobber formWhy must he suffer?
>>185844782desu i'm a gay top and Vegeta is my fave char and also my ideal bottom (short, muscular and surly)
>>185814440Makes me wonder why Nip animators just don't move to America. Americans love anime and western animation has been pretty shit lately.
>>185844943"uhm ackchually, it's "Fuh-ri-za," and 'Bu-ro-ri'."
>>185845106What? So they can work on some shitty cartoon show and dishonor their family?
>"Yes, my favourite character is Jiren. What gave it away?"
> Yeah Jiren is great, I like him
>>185838778Knock knock it's Kunckles
>>185845170You know thinking about it, that's true unfortunately.>Social stigma of art being for kids, so westerners are forced to be cartoonists>Actual good products like Avatar are ruined by liberal media shoe-horning>Nip animators will never be seen in value because of the whole CalArts social circle make it impossible for any animators to make it big without following the Bean Face animation styleI wish Japan stop with their xenophobic economic norms so they could make profit from Overseas instead of relying on Nip's blu-ray sales.
>>185845092>Bitches love 'Geets 'that way'It is true.
>>185845643BEJITA-SAMA PLEASE FUCK MY WIFE
>>185845643Tenkaichi 3 had so much soul to it
>>185845924>soul>story mode cutscenes could only have TWO characters on-screen at the same timeSoul was Budokai 1.
>>185845995That looks really good.
>>185844822it would ruin any impact we are supposed to feel with these forms
>>185844822Yes, they don't exist.
It's a shame GT never got an official manga. I feel like most of it's stories would be a lot better like this.
>>185844822Yes, Toriyama is sick of new forms, why do you think the closest thing to a new form we had since RoF is UI, which Goku can't even use at will?
>>185845963It had much more soul than the Post-Battle of Z games at least.
>>185846225Why not, Mr headcanon?
>>185846277Well I liked how lively was the menu and the gallery stuff, yeah.
>>185846251>t's a shame GT never got an official manga.I agree.
>>185846319Plus the what ifs were nice. The Bardock what if of him defeating Frieza while declaring him and Fasha was going to repopulate the saiyan race was still one of my favorite what ifs in the gameverse.
>>185845995>>185846087Those hits have no impact.Reminds me of a lot of the animation of Goku vs Frieza in Z.
>Beerus casually fights with Champa>Whis and Vados tell them to stop cause they'll destroy the universes>Broly FP and Gogeta go all out>Whis and Beerus don't give a shitHow does he do it?
185844943>JOBrentard has been reporting everything he doesn't like>projecting that others call the mods ever to deal with his pathetic assYikes
>>185846251If GT wasn't considered to be a continuation and was actually a spinoff I feel like it wouldn't got as much flack as it did. A lot of it had some great ideas in it's canon.
>>185846553By being hundreds of times stronger than Jobly, just like Chadren.
>>185846553Beerus is best boy.
>>185846599I feel like that's why a lot more people are coming around on it nowadays. It functions much better as an alternate ending than it does a true continuation
>>185846599>wouldn't got as much flackWho gives a shit? Japan clearly still enjoys the series, as I do too.
>>185846631Beerus is also hundreds of times stronger than that shit jobren
>>185845797>he would rather die than kiss her
>>185846277I think FighterZ has plenty of soul.
>>185846553They were fighting carelessly, in Broly movie at least one one of the fighters considered the safety of the universe.It's like when Beerus and Goku were destroying the universe because Goku was just learning to control SSG's power and Beerus gave no fucks, in future fights with stronger guys the universe isn't in danger.
>>185846553>JirenMakes Beerus shit himself>Broly and GogetaBeerus relaxes on a beach with a baby
>ui goku (who is stronger than cuckren) might be stronger than beerus>broly is confirmed to be stronger than beerusit's been months, why cant cuckrecucks accept the truth?
>>185846940I always underestimate how fuckhueg Piccolo got after the saiyans saga, but in retrospective, he towers over all of them at least an entire head.
>>185846995Who confirmed Broly is stronger than Beerus
>>185844768>Ultra InstinctNot a transformation.>EvolutionNot canon.>SS2 CabbaNot canon.>SS2 KaleNot canon.
>>185846784It's a good game, but it has the creativity of a polished fan-project. They knew all the right tools to keep the hypefags and reactionaries happy, but the only spin on the project was 21 herself since her design is supposed to be a well-made homage to Frieza, Cell, and Buu.
>>185827373𝖚𝖓𝖎𝖈𝖔𝖉𝖊 𝔱𝔢𝔵𝔱 𝓼𝓽𝔂𝓵𝓮𝓻
>>185847075>Eye color changes>Hair color changes>Aura changes>Power increases>Not a transformation.
What the fuck makes him so strong? Did the movie even give an explanation?And don't give me any "prodigy" shit. I want to know how he's on the level of literal gods with just normal Saiyan DNA
Reminder that the Super anime has richer characterizations, internal logical consistency regarding power scaling, better world-building, enthralling SoL mini-arcs, higher stakes, significantly superior character designs, as well as superb art, animation, fight choreography, and a standout soundtrack. Also, it's canon.
>>185846903>non canon filler in anime episodes written by literal whos>Toriyama
>>185847122>Eye, hair, and aura changes=transformationt. gigantic retard.>Power increasesNice headcanon. Your next post will be a lengthy apology for daring to contradict your superior.
>blocks you're pathWhat do?
>>185847173>m-muh canon promotional manga
>>185847133>with just normal Saiyan DNAThat's the thing, though, he was born with abnormal saiyan DNA. His abnormality is that he's that fucking strong.
>>185846804>Headcanon: the post
>>185847217nice stupid headcanon you utter retard
>>185844768>Implying power boosts made Gohan shit in ToPHe had some of the best fights in the arc, who gives a shit about power levels when Team Caulifla got SS1-2 with little effort?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmoYDgRBbYk
>>185847178>Eye, hair, and aura changes=transformationYes? In DB that's exactly how it works.Also, please explain how his body working automatically somehow makes his punches deal more damage to Jiren. Because Goku had already landed some hits on him and they did nothing before UI.
>>185847278>That's exactly how it worksI guess Freeza, Cell, and Buu didn't transform because their hair, eyes, and aura didn't change. Fucking moron cuck.>trying to refute actual canon information as stated in the picture postedYou're done. You lost. Be quiet.
>>185847133Broccoli is the legendspaghetti super sand. Like the U6 Saiyans, he's just as strong as he is, there's no tolerable justification.
>>185847178Silence, dog. You will bow to your superiors.
>>185847330Shut the fuck up you babbling idiot
>>185847258>GIVE ME AN EXPLANATION>Here it is>NO! HEADCANNON!Dude, the movie simply states that he's a saiyan who was born impossibly strong. If he was born with it, it's in his DNA, but since he's a normal saiyan in any other way, the explanaiton is simply that his DNA make shim stronger because. If you don't like it, that's your problem, but at least watch the movie without coming here acting like an ape.
>>185847347BTFO. I'm better than you in every possible way. Cope.
>>185847304>I guess Freeza, Cell, and Buu didn't transform because their hair, eyes, and aura didn't change. Fucking moron cuck.This is fucking dumb, you know what he meant, but you're in buttfuck Syllogism retardation town.
>>185847356Are you such a dumb spic you don't realise you're eating shit?
>>185847378>heYou got BTFO, stop trying to save face by pretending to be another person. Refute >>185847178 or concede like a good dog.
>>185847371You will bark when spoken to, lowly dog.
>>185847304>I guess Freeza, Cell, and Buu didn't transform because their hair, eyes, and aura didn't change.Pleas,e quote where I said that it's the ONLY way it works. oh right, yo can't.YOu also did not answer my quesiton, so I answer you don't have an actula answer, so your entire argument boils down to a strawman and an ad hominem. Sorry, buddy, two fallacies to zero, I win. Try learning how to read next time.
>>185847272imagine urironically watching DBZ for the fight scenes and not for the transformations
>>185847414>In DB that's exactly how it works.Cope and concede.>your argument boils down to...My argument boils down to official statements, which you have yet to refute. Official statements>your retarded headcanon. Kneel, dog.
>>185847403>e-everyone who calls me retarded is the same personSeething.
>>185847409Quiet, pet. Kneel.
>>185847463>can't refute my evidenceI guess you're admitting that you lost to me, your intellectual and far more knowledgeable superior. Now shut the fuck up and don't post again unless it's a length expose detailing all the myriad ways that you're inferior to me.
>>185847474Not an argument. Cope.
Ultra Instinct makes Goku:>makes him way faster>makes him considerably stronger>changes his haircolor>changes his eyecolorYeah, it's a transformation.
>>185847122>stated to be a technique>b-but muh transformations
>>185847481It must suck to be objectively wrong like you are.I'm sorry you have to live that way.
>>185847278>Also, please explain how his body working automatically somehow makes his punches deal more damage to JirenYou have been spoon-fed that information a million times over, it's not going away because brainlets like you don't like it.
>>185847178>>185847504Still no refutation. As stated clearly, it doesn't make him faster or stronger. Stop with your spic-canon.>>185847530>STILL can't refute the above postJust concede. It'll be less embarrassing for you.
>>185847508A technique that just so happens to change his outward appearance and make him far stronger than SSB and even SSB+Kaioken (in the anime)It's obviously a transformation, you brainlet.
>>185847504>literally stated to be a technique in official capacity which was posted 10 minutes ago>t-t-transformation! h-hair and eyes! muh aura!
185847504>faster and strongerdiscarded
>>185847553>I-I don't know! But I must act belligerent in hopes that I can intimidate you into no longer BTFOing me.
>>185847575>changes his outward appearance and makes him strongerI guess KK is a transformation too you fucking idiot. Also it doesn't make him stronger, you keep saying this while ignoring the post that proves it DOESN'T make him stronger. Cope and concede.
>>185847452Imagine caring about transformations past the age of 12.
>>185847617>not a single rebuttal to >>185847178You really should just concede at this point, it's fucking embarrassing watching you continue fighting when you've already been proved wrong.
>>185847606It also makes him faster and far stronger. That's objectively true.
>>185847624>I guess KK is a transformation too you fucking idiot.If Kaioken can be maintained for a long enough time and not in short bursts, yes.>Also it doesn't make him stronger, you keep saying this while ignoring the post that proves it DOESN'T make him stronger.You insisting something is true doesn't prove anything, you dumb lardo.
>>185847658Except it doesn't, as stated here >>185847178>b-but muh Toei!Toei's fanfiction Blanco form isn't canon and doesn't follow Toriyama's draft of what UI Goku actually is. It's irrelevant. Cope.>>185847688>he's now arguing that KK is a transformationDiscarded. There's no arguing with someone as massively retarded as you. There's already been a post that proves UI isn't a powerup and none of you pathetic Toei brainlets have refuted it.
>>185847655What do you call something that changes a character's outward appearance and boosts their strength and speed for an extended amount of time?
>>185847575>a technique that is a transformation because I say soNo, retard.
>>185847726>mangaspicoh fuck that's the reason you're sperging so hard
>>185847728Except it doesn't boost his strength and speed. You're literally arguing against what the fucking technique is stated to do. Refute that picture or stop posting.
>>185847770>deflection and ad hominemConcession accepted. You know you've lost, now you're just trying to pretend like you were shitposting and don't actually care.
>>185847735So then why does it change his hair, haircolor, eyecolor, aura and his strength?Feel free to explain it without latching on to "B-BUT THIS PAGE WRITTEN BY AN UNPAID INTERN CALLS IT A TECHNIQUE," like a lowly parasite.
>>185847788The opinions of manga readers literally do not matter.
Aren't transformations inherently techniques in the first place? That's like saying whether a cloud is made of water or not.
>>185847804>m-my headcanon is more reliable than official statements!Cope and concede.>>185847845Yes, we know you're still crying about your cancelled non-canon fanfiction, Jose Alejandro.
>>185847774So why couldn't SSB Goku beat Jiren then?
>>185847845kek imagine being this much of a fat close-minded spergtoeispics are the most pathetic cucks on /a/, they literally can't get over their filipino cartoon getting shitcanned
>>185847882Because it doesn't give him auto-dodge and auto-counter like UI does and he was fighting like a retard as Roshi stated. I know you're fucking stupid but at least try to connect the dots yourself
>>185847869Call me back when you realize your Tracetaro manga-reading opinions are worth less than dogshit on the side of the road.
>>185847916Keep crying. You got proved wrong and had to deflect to "b-b-but muh canon chadnime" even though it's cancelled and was never canon to begin with.
>>185847915Doesn't matter. If Goku was able to hit Jiren at all in SSB, whether it's his hand, his shoulder, whatever- it should still harm Jiren. Yet, SSB Goku couldn't even do that.And since Ultra Instinct is a "technique" according to you, and he doesn't have SSB activated at the same time, he's base Goku trying to take on Jiren- no amount of auto-dodges are going to change the fact that Goku's punches would feel like a fly impacting on Jiren's body.
>>185847991>according to youAccording to official statements >>185847178, which you STILL have not rebutted, and at this point I'm taking it as an admittance of being unable to. Therefore, I accept your concession. You LOSE.
>>185847991>both SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta landed solid, damaging blows on Jiren in both the anime and the mangaWhat did the retarded cuckspic speedwatcher/speedreader mean by this?
>>185847991ultra instinct is literally goku's maximum level of power combined with auto-dodge/auto-counter hax you stupid bitch
>>185847916holy FUCK toeispics are still so fucking mad
>>185848063Goku's hits literally do not faze him, and this is in perfected/mastered SSB.You mean to tell me that Goku with base form power would be able to harm him just because has auto-dodge hacks? You're delusional.
>>185842116>As it stands, Broly is literally a non-menaceI mean he's literally never fought anyone before this besides his weak ass father in training and still put up a fight against a fusion of the 2 strongest mortals in his universe with just full power ape + normal SS. First off his Zenkai is gonna be massive and if he ever learned half the forms Goku and Vegeta have access to he'd be a terror in most of the multiverse. I actually believe that this movie had the opposite effect in that there should be no reason to ever fear anything again, just have Whis train Broly and if worst comes to worse have him fuse with Goku for that sweet sweet asspull plot armor and GG
>>185848088Wrong. Ultra Instinct is a technique, not a transformation according to >>185848033 , so it's base form Goku power with the ability to dodge better.
>>185848146>two strongest mortals in his universeGohan is stronger than Goku or Vegeta individually as of the ToP
>>185848167>using his maximum level of power means it's a transformationdo you just lack reading comprehension or something you fat ugly worthless spic? you should have been aborted
>>185848063AHEMUI level A17!
>>185848197Why do transformations even exist if he can reach SSB levels of power while staying base, you absolute mongoloid.Just admit that you've lost and you're dumb as bricks. UI is a transformation.
>>185848198we all know that toei's fanfiction was blatantly retarded
>>185848228because UI is a technique>UI is a transformationNope as stated in the picture that you haven't refuted. official statement>your retarded headcanon. cope dog.
>>185848228>UI is a transformation>>185847178
>>185848127And yet just by dodging and doing perfect counters he bitched Jobren into exhaustion
>>185848249>>185848264I accept your concession, mangaspic.I've outlined exactly why I am right, thank you for being so easy.
>>185848177Only in the manga which the movie isn't based on and honestly hes really not because he's fallen from grace in most fans eyes because unless you read said super manga which most fans being animeonlys he's been made into a little bitch time and again so he'll never be officially allowed to be stronger than the main characters aka Goku and Vegeta
>>185848274>again called a technique, not a transformationspics BTFO>>185848296Cope, you've lost again.>>185848299>movie isn't based on the manga>no SSBE>no SSBKK>Goku remembers fighting the GoDsopinion discarded toeidog.
>>185848274Enough, apparently, that base form Goku strength could harm Jiren whereas he couldn't feel any hits from Perfected SSB Goku.
>>185848296>literally can't refute the official statement>just plugs his ears and screeches I WIN I WIN I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHTJust like a typical Toeipoodle.
>>185848339>"m-muh official statement written by an unpaid intern is word of god!!"cute
>>185848371>n-no it was written by an unpaid intern t-trust me otherwise my headcanon will implodeOfficial statements and official media>what some fat spic on /a/ says. Cope. I'm right and you're wrong.
>>185848371>get BTFO>start complaining about the source the evidence originates from as if that is in any way relevantKek, you're fucking done.
>Jiren feels nothing when he has to block both Hit and SSB Goku's attacks for an extended amount of time>Gets beaten by a base Goku-level fighter just because he can dodge wellKek.
The UI the angels and Beerus use is a techniqueThe UI Goku uses is a transformationNow shut the fuck up.
>>185848392>>185848420I've already proven you wrong. Now all I can do is laugh at you as you latch on to something so inconsequential to the point that you're willing to contradict all other visual information to the contrary.
>>185848479>I-I've proven you wrong by arguing against official statements with my headcanonQuiet.
>>185848472This is how I see it.They honestly need to explain what and how that functions, because it's obvious that regular UI is just meant to hone your reflexes and make you take action without thinking.
>>185814337Advertised enough to get wider theatrical release.
>>185848274Beerus also has his own pseudo Omen that only lasts a couple of dodges, and he didn't blitz or oneshot anyone.Gokekmongs are fucking obsessed with their spicfictions.
>>185848504>my headcanonPanels from your vaunted tracer manga.
>>185848560>panel that literally calls it a techniqueCongratulations, you just defeated yourself for me.
>>185848583>calls it a technique>shows it's clearly a transformationCongratulations, you've once more conceded
>>185848541Shut up and cope you fucking retard.
>>185848628>b-b-B-BUT MY HEADCANON CLEARLY STATESQuiet.
>>185848583Okay, so if somebody tells you something works one way, and then you are shown it clearly working another way, which do you believe?Apparently you believe what you are told over what you can clearly see, like a mongoloid that needs to be spoonfed.
>>185848672>literally nothing visually showing it's a transformation>b-b-but muh aura and eyesNot an argument.>called a techniqueCope and concede, my precious pet.
>>185848657Okay, so why can base form Goku hurt Jiren whereas he previously took several hits from perfected SSB Goku without any scratches?Feel free to explain that to the class. I'll stand in the background and laugh as you squirm.
>>185848707>d-d-didn't flinchAnd later both SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta were able to land damaging blows on him. Cope.
>>185848332It's not base Goku, it's a shameless toy grab new look where Goku acts all generic badass and doesn't talk.Toei even added roars and shit completely missing the context of UI, but no biggie, Toriyama is now the source again, Toei will have to resort to filler again to make Goku not job to his own shadow.
>>185848732Again- why could perfected SSB Goku not scratch Jiren after several blocked hits. You'd assume the pure impact would at least affect Jiren.But no, later, he falters with ease to base level Goku strength.Again, explain.
>>185848801>ignores that both SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta were able to land damaging blows on Jiren>also ignores that UI is a technique that uses the user's maximum level of power combined with auto-dodgeCope and concede, my pet.
>>185848773If it's a technique and not a transformation as mangaspic anon keeps insisting, then that means Goku is still in his base form and possesses base form levels of power- just that he can now dodge better.So now he'll have to explain why a base form Goku can hurt Jiren. Meanwhile, I can laugh at him for trying.
>>185848837>also ignores that UI is a technique that uses the user's maximum level of power combined with auto-dodgeNo, because you said it's a technique, not a transformation. Therefore it should not be able to make Goku as strong or stronger than SSB, otherwise there'd be no reason for SSB to exist, if Goku can reach the same level of power in base form.Try again.
>>185848876He can't control UI you fucking retarded sperg. Read, Pedro. I know it's hard for you worthless spics to comprehend English.
>>185848876>you saidthe manga and an official statement said it's a technique, mexican dogtard.
>>185848895Literally irrelevant. It's not a transformation, like you said. It shouldn't be able to give him power equal to or superior to SSB, which is an actual transformation.Man, it's funny to shit all over you and all I need to use is common sense and observation.
>>185848935>headcanon on top of headcanon>h-hehe I win lelel u mad xDI love showing how superior I am to you retarded Toeifags.
>>185848959Yes, I made a clear observation that contradicts your every claim and now you are squirming like a madman. "B-but muh that's headcanon!!! Uhm..
>>185848935>a technique shouldn't be able to increase power>what is Kaioken
>>185848959>UI is a technique, b-but it can give the user their maximum level of power as well as auto-dodge!Kek. Keep losing.
>>185848973Yes, Toeidog, you spouted headcanon and are now pretending like you've won. It was funny at first, but now you bore me.
>>185848997First you were latching on to text like a religious person that clearly stated that Ultra Instinct is a technique that allows a person to dodge and act without thinking.Now you've lost so hard you're down to "b-but actually it also increases the user's power to be on the level of their strongest transformation, if not stronger!"
>>185849058That was literally the argument from the start, Toeipoodle. It's not my fault you're too fucking retarded to follow a post chain.
>>185849033Yet to see Kaioken reach SSB levels of power.Yet to see Kaioken be maintained for more than a few moments.
>>185849058cope and concede you pathetic drooling dog. you fat fucking worthless canid beast, your master has had enough of your shit. get the fuck back to your kennel and obediently die there, maggot dog.
>>185849104>b-b-BUT THAT TECHNIQUE DIDN'T INCREASE HIS POWER AS MUCH S-SO IT CAN'T BE A TECHNIQUE LIKE THATThis is how retarded you sound, beaner.
>>185849104>Yet to see Kaioken be maintained for more than a few moments.Except Goku used a prolonged version of Kaioken against both Ginyu and Freeza on Namek, Superbabby.
>>185849097No, your argument was "B-BUT THIS TINY PARAGRAPH OF TEXT."Nothing in it states that it increases a user's power to their maximum, so you can decide to either be a parasite who latches on to literal statements like they're holy text, or you can use your own head to form arguments based on clear observation. Not both.
>>185849199>posts the thing that BTFO him once againGood dog. There's a very good pup.
>>185849140>>185849185So what would Kaioken be if it could be maintained for extended periods of time?Something like- I don't know.. a transformation?
>>185849236Nope, it's still a technique. Nice to see you backpedal in obedient subservience, my precious pet. Kneel.
>>185849119>seething this hard after losing for everyone to seekek
>>185849277shut the fuck up pet, your god didn't give you permission to speak
>>185849274Concession accepted.God, it feels good to win.
>>185849323>get BTFO>c-c-concession a-a-acceptedSilence, pet. Kneel.
>>185849220So feel free to mention what part of that describes UI as a technique that also increases a user's power to their max.
>>185847804>it changes his hair so it's not a technique, despite being called a technique>it changes his eyes so it's not a technique, despite being called a technique>I'm a retard that thinks it makes him physically stronger so it's not a technique, despite being called a techniqueYikesAlso>page written by unpaid internYou mean page written by Toyotaro in his manga that is checked and corrected by Toriyama every month? See >>185848274
>>185849316>anally annihilated toyospicthe smell is quite grotesque, but the victory feels immaculate
>>185849365>too retarded to draw conclusionsBad pup. Return to your kennel, now.
>>185849407you better shut the fuck up if you know what's good for you, you fat fucking ugly ass flea-ridden dog piece of shit
>>185849388I've already shown that it actually makes Goku physically stronger, so now you have to explain why it makes Goku physically stronger, even though the religious text in >>185849199 states no such thing.
>>185849428seething concession accepted
>there are still poodles who claim the manga is fanfictionSAD
>>185849411>you are wrong because this text says you're wrong>i am right because I can draw conclusions based on visual cuesThank you for admitting that I am right.
>>185849497I'd say most people just think the manga is so bad it may as well be fanfiction.
>>185849521No, I draw conclusions based on the official statements we're given, not my own headcanon, like a certain disobedient pet.
>>185849623So what official statement said that UI is a technique that gives Goku his max power, seething Toyospic?
>>185849460>I've already spammed my headcanonWhy and why do you keep pretending it matters? Kaioken makes you stronger too and it's still a technique so even UI made Goku stronger like your dumb headcanon says it would still be a fucking technique
>>185849699See>>185849648And if UI>Makes a character stronger>Makes a person faster>Changes their hair>Changes their eyes>Changes their aura>Can be maintained for an extended amount of timeThen the barrier between technique and transformation is essentially meaningless anyway.
>>185814440>Animators in Japan are criminally underpaidDepends on the animator's experience and the studio. You can't generalize.