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>made 116 million on an 8 million budget

Holy fuck how?!
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>>185814337
Chadly sugoi power
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Animators in Japan are criminally underpaid, and when they aren't, the animation is outsourced to Taiwan or China.

DBS: Broly would have cost ten times more if it was made in the US, and probably done worse
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You just witnessed the power of the legendary super saiyan.
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>children are easily impressionable
>manchildren eat any shit because muh nostalgia

see all the nintendrones and sonyggers defending their shit corporations on /v/
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>>185814440
That explains why western animation is dead/been stagnant for 20 years
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>>185814337
I believe itโ€™s 8 million production budget but advertisement budget is another 8mil on top.
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>>185814337
spics
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Because it's a great movie
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Dragon Piece Superb : Bururee
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>>185814494
Basically this
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amazing what you can do without (((creative accounting))) innit
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i hope they use this money for getting more better animator for super so they can replace the shitty ones

or get more experienced/veteran writers for dbs manga so they can release manga weekly or fortnightly not monthly
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>>185817305

Yeah because the top execs totally aren't going to pocket 98% of the profits for themselves and spread thin the other 2% to the rest of the company....
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>>185814337
This is what happens when you give a damn.
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>>185814337
because retards keep sucking toriyama's cock, that's why
mainly niggers and spics
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>>185814337
A rounding chorus of gleeful 'harumph'!
> Eureka
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>>185817305
๐•‹๐•™๐•– ๐•ค๐•™๐•š๐•ฅ๐•ฅ๐•ช ๐•’๐•Ÿ๐•š๐•ž๐•’๐•ฅ๐•š๐• ๐•Ÿ ๐•š๐•ค ๐•จ๐•™๐•’๐•ฅ ๐•๐•–๐•ฅ'๐•ค ๐•ช๐• ๐•ฆ ๐•œ๐•Ÿ๐• ๐•จ ๐•ฅ๐•™๐•–๐•ช ๐•™๐• ๐•๐•• ๐•ช๐• ๐•ฆ๐•ฃ ๐••๐• ๐•”๐•š๐•๐•– ๐•ž๐•’๐•ค๐•ฅ๐•ฆ๐•ฃ๐•“๐•’๐•ฅ๐• ๐•ฃ๐•ช ๐•๐•š๐•—๐•–๐•ค๐•ฅ๐•ช๐•๐•– ๐•š๐•Ÿ ๐•”๐• ๐•Ÿ๐•ฅ๐•–๐•ž๐•ก๐•ฅ ๐•’๐•ค ๐•š๐•ฅ ๐••๐•–๐•ค๐•–๐•ฃ๐•ง๐•–๐•ค.
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>>185819285
That's the way baby, shake it.
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>>185816143
>Goku and Vegeta as stale as ever
>rushed Minus parts
>Broly isn't a menacing antagonist because Vegeta and Gogeta both made him their little bitch
>characters fail to sell (like in wrestling) each other moves
>massive flanderization
>Freezer is now a gag character and a rehashed Commander Red
>Vegeta tried to murder Broly
>Gogeta tried to murder the good-hearted Broly, then allowed Freezer to escape right after he tried to murder two inoccent people

Minus parts (even if rushed) and Broly / Cheelai / Lemo interactions were the only saving graces of this terrible movie
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>>185814337
>8 million budget

I can't help but feel bad for those slave animators in moonland.
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>>185819190
Your pic intrigues me.

Source?
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>>185819532
๐•๐• ๐•ฆ ๐•ฅ๐•–๐•๐•๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•˜ ๐•ž๐•– ๐•จ๐•™๐•–๐•ฃ๐•– ๐•ž๐•ช ๐•™๐• ๐•ฅ ๐•“๐•š๐•ฅ๐•”๐•™ ๐•“๐•–๐•ค๐•ฅ ๐•—๐•ฃ๐•š๐•–๐•Ÿ๐•• ๐•’๐•Ÿ๐•• ๐•ž๐•ช ๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•–๐•ค๐•– ๐•˜๐•’๐•Ÿ๐•˜๐•ค๐•ฅ๐•–๐•ฃ ๐•™๐•ฆ๐•ค๐•“๐•’๐•Ÿ๐•• ๐•’๐•ฃ๐•– ๐•ž๐•’๐•”๐•™๐•š๐•Ÿ๐•– ๐•ž๐•ฆ๐•ฅ๐•’๐•Ÿ๐•ฅ ๐•˜๐•š๐•ฃ๐•.
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>>185819519
At least they get good animation

Have you seen the state of animation in the United States?
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>>185814337
8 million is a big budget for anime movie, it's literally at least half of budget Spirited Away had and probably the most expensive Dragon Ball movie (for example, Resurrection F had 5 million budget).

Healthy production schedule, during the production of anime TV show Nagamine claimed that Toei, when it came to quality control did nothing but encourage "do your best!". However, while working on the movie he claimed to have been able to go home before the sunset for 2 months. Most animators sleep in their studios. Toei finally woke up and decided to bring in quality to the anime themselves, so let's hope it's only chapter 1 of their redemption arc.
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Holy shit, how can DB chads be so based?
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>>185819763
Castlevania had like 1-2 well animated episodes each season.
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>>185819804
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>here's your imponent main villain bro
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Based and canon
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>>185820167
>>185820066

>Jobeta

Big kekers
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>>185820237
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>>185814337
broly nigga
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>we need to hype up the main villain bro, make him feel threatening in a planet with a magic dragon and a God of Destruction

say no more
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>>185819488
>freezer
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>>185820397
vegeta withdrew from battle when broly started powering up
he saved himself from a beating
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>>185819285
>let's
You retard.
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>>185814337
Spics like nu Dragon Ball
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>>185820066
>>185820167
>>185820328

Why couldn't this movie just end with Vegeta beating Broly?
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>>185821492
it did
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>>185814337
Autism
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>>185821987
>vs El Grande Goku Blanco
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>>185814337
Well, no need for a script writer since 85% of the movie consists solely of the letter ใ‚
I guess that helped keep the cost down.

What the shit was the boxing like announcer shouting shit in the background, jesus fuck
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>>185821492
lol
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>>185819773
Around episode 75, Super started to feel like someone was putting effort to bring it to acceptable level.
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>>185821492
Cause jobeta is weaker than base goku.
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>>185820167
>>185820328
>can't even fend him off with ss
Jobeta will always be a joke.
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>>185819488
>gohanspic didn't watch the movie
I wouldn't either if my favorite character spent all his time jobbing.
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>>185821987
The entire episode will be Kakashi vs Itachi, the boy tuffle will be a shot for shot of Vegeta becoming as like the sun in the TOP.
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>>185819968
Stupid fcucking arsehole, that was the greatest fanfic ever, just accept it was...incomplete.
>We four emperors finale
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>>185825361
What was that JOBly? I couldn't hear you over Gogeta beating your ass.
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>>185825419
Who is this jobber again? I don't remember seeing him in the movie.
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>>185815189
I wouldn't say as long as 20 years. they just stopped trying entirely fairly recently though, like 2015.

all /co/ talks about now is cape movies now. That's how dead cartoons are.
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>>185820176
Just like Pan

Based and DBGT pilled
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>>185819804
Why is he suffering that much? That doesn't looks as painful vs slamming into mountains and other landmasses
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>>185825419
>A-AAHHH HALF-DAD HELP ME CHADLY IS SHOWING HIS HUGE BULDGING COCK!
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>>185814337
Cause broly draws dimes.
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>>185825419
Disobeying mass economics for super powers, you better believe that's a paddlin'!
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>>185819488
Freeza was in full Neko Majin mode, which you don't know about because you're a raging anime-only.
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>>185819804
>this bitch tried to use a rasengan on broly

no wonder he got rekt. needs to AT LEAST be rasenshuriken to do anything.
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>>185825473
Why would he have to step in? He knows the fusion win button would be enough.
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>>185814337
Better question, how is it that a rehash manages to be better than all of super?
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>>185825575
FOOL, HE WAS SHINING WITH A B-BALLING POWER! THAT HAND OF HIS TOLD HIM WHO BEST GIRL REALLY IS!!!!!
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>>185816085
That's still making back 10x the cost
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>>185825549
AHHHH CHEELAI HELP!!!!!
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Reminder Best Couple saved the franchise.

Also where are the "It Flop" faggots at?
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>>185825612
Cause super set the bar so low for obvious reasons but no one ever wants to admit it.
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Reminder that Goku could've used Hakai on Broly. Meaning he's technically below blue tier.
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>>185825625
Phase two: Russel Crowes Robin Hoodwink.<
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>>185825660
That's cause anyone who shits on super is a GTfag according to /a/.
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>>185825699
Xicor got your tongue there Keniichi?
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>>185825576
Jobhan is too weak to be relevant.
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>>185825830
>beats Kelfa
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>>185825894
Thanks for reinforcing my point.
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>>185825894
>jobbed to each other
>whole fight gets skipped cause they're both literal fodder
Spics being delusional again I see.
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>>185825830
>Captain William Guile, YOU. ARE. A. BIGOT!
> Do I hate the gays !? Are you serious?
> When you young ladies have done some growing up, join Shadowlaw. We don't discriminate based off of two mature people loving whom they want.
>Farewell Captain William Guile, you've got some thinking to do!
>BISON! FINKLE IS EINHORN, EINHORN IS FINKLE
>Bro what?
>>185825894
Almost politically correct Cabba.
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>Shithanfags sperging out again
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>>185819488
average gohanfag everyone
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THIS is the only canon part of Dragonball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBQxA1bMqB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLSXKnG_ka4
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>>185826040
Well, yes you are shit, but that's on you little cancer muffin, not that you're listening.
>You madam, are no lady. Good day!
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>>185825960
Kelfa literally admits that she's no match in comparison to the U7 saiyans. She admitted defeat at that point. Why do you think Gohan and kelfafags weren't sperging over the ending?
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>>185814440
Not Korea?
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>yes I would like one copy of dragon ball super broly on blu ray please!
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>>185826192
What was that gundam thing they did, I could look it up but honestly it would take this thread in a better direction if it just sort of happened here...
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>>185825644
>B-BEAT HIM HARDER DAD...! HE'S SMACKING HIS DICK WITH MINE NOW AAAAAAAAAA
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>>185826220
Shut up (SEELE) you're a nutty as someone who likes fruitcake.
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>>185814337
I honestly don't understand, db viewership ratings crashed at the end of dbs and it got cancelled, and somehow the movie did well? guess gotta blame casualfags and normalfags who fell for the hype
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>>185826393
No super was just that bad.
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>>185820167
goku and vegeta were villains you braindead retard, why can't anyone understand tori's intentions?
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>>185826393
Sorry, Super anime =/= super movie
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>>185826445
nice headcanon
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>>185826527
based
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>>185826445
GOKU is the villain, Vegeta is merely a test to measure your strength against the main villain
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>>185826605
>>185826649
>broly a good guy
>try to muder him
>friendly with frieza
>frieza conquering universe and kills goku's parents
you have to be a fucking plant to not see it, also he always wrote db like this
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>>185827050
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>>185827086
And then he did.
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>>185827106
wait a sec, when did Frieza melts his face? is this when he's floating in the space?
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>>185827106
This was after the vassal took him out only for some twink mutt bastard to turn him to confetti. Still, Fridge did well to be born just to die in his Prince's place (too popular to kill off).
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>>185814337
vic is a rapist
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Why didn't Gohan wait and see if Kefla would attack Goku or Jiren after launching her ki attack? If she attacked Jiren then she would've gotten knocked out and Gohan would still be in.
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>>185826948
Is it me or does Goku look really creepy here?
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>>185827253
>killed zarbon
>killed recoome
>krillin did nothing
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>>185827310
yeah, he's going to rape them in court. how terrible
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>>185819285
Source for that font?
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>>185827329
its not just you
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>>185827320
They needed a way to get rid of the two jobbers without interfering.
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>>185827329
Does he?
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>>185827396
Such lust for jobbing to his Prince.
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>>185827320
The more I look at Goku and Jiren in the bottom right panel the more I laugh.
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>>185827175

His face got blown up when Goku returned fire after giving him some energy to keep on living. By some miracle he survived both Goku's blast and Namek exploding.

If it werent for King Cold, Freeza would've died in space.
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>>185827476
yeah, thanks for clarifying, need to rewatch Z someday to refresh my memory
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>>185827320

Wait, is Gohan floating in midair? Wasnt it a rule in the ToP that you couldnt fly whatsoever?
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>>185827460
now you've mentioned it, Goku is a midget here, fucking toyohack is at it again
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>>185819285
Underrated
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>>185827580
they can just play it off as a jump
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>>185827476
death seems preferable to the hideous cybernetics they rigged him up with. holy shit it sucks not to have your own gero. may as well put a fucking spoiler on him while you're at it
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>>185814337
It's because his skin is cold.
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้ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใš
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>>185826527
>when you hear bejita is about to kiss your wife
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>>185827979
>uses Kamehameha instead of superior moves in his DNA
>could have won with just GG
The perfect retard.
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>>185827979
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>>185828035
>it was just Videl's turn again

>>185828058
>too smart to defeat one-armed Gohan
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>Stronger than Majin Buu

Who wrote this shit?
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>>185828097
GT suffered from a severe case of power creep.
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Who could he defeat in Super?
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>>185814494
Pretty much this. It was like TLJ all over again.
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>>185814337
because it was good
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>>185827396
It's you, it's always been your xeno inability to know when someone is...striking a pose.
>"I leave the future to these children"
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>>185814337
The franchise will make toei money forever, DBS will never animate end of Z. Mark my words.
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>>185828311
Honestly they should just retcon it at this point.
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>>185828213
At the very least, he's strong enough to beat SSB Goku. God ki has proven time and again to be absolutely worthless and more of a detriment than anything.
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>>185828097
What's the problem? Everybody is stronger than Majin Buu now.
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>>185828372
>God ki has proven time and again to be absolutely worthless and more of a detriment than anything.
in your headcanon
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>>185828456
there was never a random mook stronger than buu as far as i recall
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Whens next Heroes episode?
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>>185828541
either about 2 weeks or a month from the previous episde
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>>185828456
Don't say that, you'll trigger powerlevelfags.
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anyone got a link to the movie ?
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>>185828094
based
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>>185828498
>loses to laser beam
>loses to sHit
>loses to purple slime
>knocked around endlessly by edgy goku and faggot kai three times, even a fusion is utterly useless and fucking Trunks has to save them
>smacked up and down by kale and caulifla and countless other ToP mooks
>the pride troopers
>nubroly
>android 17 is able to go toe-to-toe with blue
>literally incapable of using it against moro
This isn't even my headcanon, this is Troiyama's. Blue hair is pathetic.
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>>185828498
what is the name of this attack
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>>185828794
SS
>Couldnt even kill frieza on its intro
>lost an arm and a life to delinquents
>Jobs to heart attack and 19
>jobs to deliquents again
>jobs to ego which causes a spine break
>gave up against a bug
>went completely almost obselete since then and only amplies Spirit Bomb during a bubblegum arc
SS2
>Jobs to ego and kills a father
>lose an arm and needs a support to kill a single bug
>Cheesed by a pussy princess
>Jobs to fat bubblegum
>Full power only managed to reach 10%(?) of GoD's power
>Evenly matched to a base nigger
>pairs up with a LSS and still jobs to a red God
>Fucked by a lizard
SS3
do i really need to tell you this one?
SSJ4
>Already almost got surpassed by a baby during its debut
>paralyzes when an android looks at him on the eye
>Super Kino Fist is kino though but its against an underling
>is needed to lift a building
>Make a non-jobbing fusion jobs to hell and beyond
you get my point? nothing is perfect
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>>185829118
not implemented in any video games because dimps is a hack, lets hope arcsys is different than them
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>>185828794
>smacked up and down by kale and caulifla
>caulifla
okay now that one literally never happened
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>>185827650
>Not wanting to be the jockstrap cyborg
PATHETIC
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>>185829483
if i want to be a cyborg i'd at least want to look like 13,16,17, or 18 for women
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>>185827476
I've just realized mecha frieza is a cool foreshadow for the androids. It's funny because the, arguably more technologically advanced, frieza force makes such a shitty robot in contrast to the red ribbon army.
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>>185819488
>Being this retarded

Sorry Cuckhan fans
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>>185814494
NOOOO DBS BROOOS STOP HIM
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>>185814337
definitely dropping these threads if nothing interesting happens next chapter.
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Soul vs Soulless
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>>185814494
>sony boogeyman
sony fans do not exist on the internet. or they're certainly too casual to bother with dedicated videogame discussion websites.
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how do you even become a bejitafag. how does that happen, how do you end worshipping the second biggest jobber in the series, then again, gokek, shitly and weakren are not any better.
imagine being a jobgetafag, or worse. a jobhantard
imagine being a db(og-z-kai-gt-s), jesus
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>>185830130
>how do you even become a bejitafag
by having a brain and good taste. unlike goku and his fanboys.
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>>185829962
When did Toriyama's art start to decline?
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>>185830382
namek
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>>185830364
lol
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O
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>>185830382
after goku turns into super saiyan for the first time
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>>185830130
>how do you even become a bejitafag
Vegeta practically carries Dragonball on his back. Every moment of this guy on screen is guaranteed to be top quality. Galick Gun, Final Flash, Final Explosion, Trunks death, passing his energy to Gonigger to fight Jiren; all great and memorable moments. Let's not forget Chadgeta had the best character development in Z.
Everyone accepts that Offensive Ultra Instinct Vegeta would have been kino of the highest order, unfortunately Toriyama settled for mediocrity with Gocuck.
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>>185820167
>>185820066
>>185820066
Vegeta is so fucking jacked in this movie. How do I get that body?
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>a-ahhh n-no NO KAKAROT-SAMA N-NOT THERE
>IM SORRY PICCOLO SAN
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>>185828035
Kek
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>>185830613
>weakren jobbing to jobgeta
>gokek looking like a cuck
>quality looks so bad it might pass as an actual chapter
kek since when toei hires spic animators
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>>185814337
>sells better than your fave
>homosexuals still in denial..."n-not showing up again...hehehe..."
How does he do it?
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Is Omega Shenron a good final boss?
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So are the BD's going to be extended editions?
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>>185826276
Se Jun Kim is a korean japanese
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TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DRAGONBALL OCs
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>>185830663
Your Burt and Ernie adult fanfiction is anything but adult I should have you know.
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>>185831080
He's super duper strong and bad ass and has a huge dick and fucks all of the girls in the franchise.
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>>185831080
Rikuumu: Ore no na wa Rikuumu
Saikyou no pawaa sa
O-inochi wo choudai shichau kara ne (Touh!!)
Urutora faiteingu
Mirakuru bonbaa de
Kasa wa min'na o souji shichau yo

Baata: Ore ga Baata sa
Aoi harikeen sa
Wow muteki no supiido

Both: Yes, we are!!
Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshi
Naku komo damaru ze Ginyuu Tokusentai
Yes, we are!!
Supesharu faitingu poozu wo
Misete yarou
Sono utsukushisa ni, sah
Hizamazuku ga ii (Tokusentai x4)

Jiisu: Ore koso Jiisu da
Akai maguma to yobe
Ore ga tokusentai No.2 da
Kurasshaa booru de
Kawaigatte yarou ka?
Kawaigarutte, yoshiyoshi janai zo

Gurudo: Gurudo wa ore da
Jikan tomete yarou
Wow, hontou no esupaa sa

Both: Yes, we are!!
Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshi
Ore-tachi tenka no Ginyuu Tokusentai
Yes, we are!!
Oyatsu wa chokoreeto pafe de
Kimari nano sa
Omae ni wakete nado
Yaranai kara na (Tokusentai x4)

Ginyuu: Ore-sama ga Ginyuu da
Taichou to yobareru
Kisama no chikara subete miseru ga ii
Furiiza-sama no tame
Ore wa tatakau no da
Kisama ga dare de arou to mo taosu

Kouei ni omoe
Yorokobi no dansu o
Ima, misete yarou janai ka

All: Yes, we are!!
Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshi
Kaeru wa kirai da Nazeka wakaran ga
Yes, we are!!
Junban kime wa kouhei ni na
Janken dazo
Senshi wa fea nanoda
Oboetoku ga ii (Tokusentai x4)
Yes, we are!!
Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshi
Naku komo damaru ze Ginyuu Tokusentai
Yes, we are!!
Supesharu faitingu poozu wo
Misete yarou
Sono utsukushisa ni, sah
Hizamazuku ga ii (Tokusentai x4)

PLAY IT AGAIN SAM!!!
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>>185829118
We'll let you know once Akatsuki releases his card with this attack
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>>185814337
Because it cashed in on 3 different demos of the same fandom

>nostalgic Dragonball fans, ever present
>DBSuper fans, hungry for more after the ToP ended
>Chadly fans, frothing at the canonness of it all
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>>185830861
He looks cool at least.
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>>185827320
TALLhan
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>>185831491
>DBSuper fans, hungry for more after the ToP ended
Jirenfags hates us to death though
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How often do you think 18 asks Krillin to invite Goku over to their house?
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>>185831758
18 times for 18 months/year i think
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>>185826393
DBS was still making great ratings, never left top 10, it had to go against Kamen Rider, the merchandise sales skyrocketed, even Gundam made nothing compared to it. Don't believe /a/'s lies
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>>185825656
They achieved victory through the power of love.
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>>185832497
>Dogly and Shreklai
Into the trash they go
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>>185814337
animations, not a hack story, not ONIONS boy orientated
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>>185832600
Stay mad, faggot.
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>>185832636
>not ONIONS boy orientated
SSG is still on the movie but it's kino
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>>185825478
legitimate mental illness and retardation has taken deep root in the US when it comes to the way things are drawn.
>inb4 its not just animating
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>>185825240
well broly is extremely powerful at birth and a mutant like frieza.
Just wish toriyama would bring back the use of a tail. Give it to U6 Saiyans I dont care, the tail was cool as fuck to have.
but he wont, my guess is that the tail represents the childlike mind set of saiyans in a literature sense. or maybe he just doesnt like drawing them anymore.
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>>185814337
Toyotaro, save us....
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>>185833052
>maybe he just doesnt like drawing them anymore.

That's exactly why. First he had the invader Saiyans wear them like belts around their waist, then he just got rid of them altogether.
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>>185832989
>like a mirror
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>>185829451
You're right - he bred them instead
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>>185834562
Based Goku.
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>>185830663
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>>185834769
more
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I want erasa to ss goten
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Why does my best girl never get any love? Amazing mom that puts her children above all else, caring wife that helps your slacker butt prioritize responsibility and is a literal princess.
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>>185834813
>>185834855
>>185835121
????????
>The spice must stop - bleak spiral lifeform
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>>185835371
>literal princess.
Princess of what exactly, there's no mountain left and the royal coffers are empty
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>>185834855
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>>185835609
Mountains only require assistance and you'll see them practically (*pop*) spring up from the ground like magic lass!
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>Goku marries the daughter of a man nicknamed "the demon ox king"
>Gohan marries the daughter of a man nicknamed "mister Satan"
I can't believe Goten is gonna marry the daughter of Molo(ch)
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At one point Bulma thought about getting with Goku. Is this the only time she thinks that?
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>>185814494
sponsored by microsoft
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>>185830661
well, here's the roadmap to that
1. kill yourself
2. be isekai'd into the dragon ball universe
3. be reborn as a saiyan
4. train your fucking ass off
5. ???
6. profit

so, it only takes the first step to achieve your dreams. go for it, anon
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>>185830861
He looks good, but the fight against him was bad. Well, every fight after the comedy dragons died was bad.
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>>185836589
>>185831525
>looks good
do.. do you not have eyes? looks lame as fuck

the concept behind the "evil" shenrons wasn't half bad, but they all looked stupid as fuck
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>>185836619
>looks lame
He looked amazing compared to your dickhead jobber, another Evil Goku and a random Alien.

Those are your canon villains.
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>>185836484
When she sees Goku after the 3 year timeskip in DB
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>>185836484
>all we ever do is fight
I'll never understand that. It's so out of character for Yamcha.
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>>185836619
took a look at them again
only black smoke shenron looks decent

>>185836655
technically goku black was the first canon evil goku, turles was a lazy as fuck concept.
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>>185836729
Come on, Yamcha is a cheater!
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>>185836768
Lazier still the former scribe who decided someone else's problems entitled him to turn into a rude as shit do nothing for the sake of ... I don't know what, but you can't seem to stop screaming at a facsimile of your personal gripes. But maybe that's all you were aiming for throughout, a childish retaliation. Lazy, no they're fatigued.
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>>185836772
Yamcha has visited Chedder (village)
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>>185836619
He was the final boss, so he had to look 'serious', while the weird designs were used for the comedy dragons. Outside of his face being Dabra's, he's fine. Super 17 and the 'stronger than Majin Buu' guy are worse.
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>>185814337
>Holy fuck how?!
Hispanic people
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>dead thread
>dead series
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>>185837707
Based hunterchad
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Leaks soon?!?
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>>185814494

Broly SPICS beat into the dirt by fellow Chadhanfag
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>>185814337
You fucking inbred don't add something after DBS
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>new game/movie/supplementary material comes out
>Features a new Saiyan "designed by Akira Toriyama!"

I'm so fucking sick of Saiyans, lads
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>>185838587

the only saiyan that should get a spotlight from now on is Gohan
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>>185838638
>Gohan
Explain?
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>>185838664
It was his turn
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>>185814337
Broly, Merica, and Spainards
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>>185836484
It's because Bulma's an insecure twat. Her relationship with Vegeta works because he'said too autistic for her to justifiably accuse him of cheating.
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>>185838587
The new Heroes game has a non-saiyan character created by Toyo.
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>>185830382
it's easy to tell he stopped caring during android/cell and was just phoning it in.

he said in an interview he purposely tried to make it suck so it would get canceled but it didn't work.
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>>185838587
Voredroid
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>>185838587
This is why the return of Broly was so disappointing to me honestly. I would have been so fucking hyped if I didn't already feel so burnt out by Saiyans
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>>185838587
the only saiyans that should get a spotlight from now on are Gohan and the cutegang

>>185825361
>posts an image from a movie where Gohan and Goten killed Broly

>>185826060
>>185829660
i accept your concession

>>185825562
read all the Neko Majin chapters and some other side stuff from Toriyama like Jiya

Neko Majin was a parody and not supposed to be canon with the regular DB timeline
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>>185828794
>loses to sHit
not canon
>loses to purple slime
not canon
>knocked around endlessly by edgy goku and faggot kai three times, even a fusion is utterly useless and fucking Trunks has to save them
edgy goku had god ki, trunks doing anything isn't canon
>smacked up and down by kale and caulifla and countless other ToP mooks
not canon
>the pride troopers
jiren and toppo, guess who's a god and who was trained by an ancient being who knew a GoD before they became a GoD
>android 17 is able to go toe-to-toe with blue
not canon
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Gohan is stronger than SSB Goku as demonstrated in the ToP and Gary Stu 17 is on the same ballpark of Goku and Vegeta per Goku's own admission
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>>185839497
He looks weird with brown hair
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How fucked would the heroes be if Zamasu fused with Jiren instead of Goku?
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because the black holocaust has yet to happen
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>>185839912
Anime Zaren would probably still get corrupted
Manga Zaren would fuck them up no question
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>>185830814
what is kuji
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>>185839991
Sorry whiteboi your women belong to us now.
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>>185836768
>Black was the first Evil Goku because *insert nonsensical excuses!!*

Next thing you're going to tell me that nuBroly is the first Broly because muh canon
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So at this point it's pretty obvious to everyone who isn't retarded that CHADhan is the strongest warrior in U7, surpassed only by the angels, UI Goku, and fusions, and Jiren in U11, but just in case there are still fucking morons out there who deny it, I'll deign to remind you:
>Kale>Golden Freeza, stated to be the most dangerous fighter in the ToP by Vados
>Kale and Caulifla fused to create Kefla, who is dozens of times stronger than Kale due to fusion
>stated by Vados that Kefla is the ultimate warrior in the ToP, even after seeing suppressed Jiren in action, who is stronger than the GoDs
>she even mentions Kefla may be unmatched
>POWERFULhan proves her wrong and BTFOs Kefla, proving GODhan>Kefla
>GODhan>Kefla>Suppressed Jiren>GoDs>Gocuck>Jobeta

And there you have it. Logical and factual scaling proving that CHADhan has indeed surpassed the realm of the GoDs. You're welcome.
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>>185839338
>not canon
17denialfags still exist?
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>>185814337
Kek
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>>185819488
>Freezer
Literal spic detected.
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>>185840569
could be baguette
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>>185820176
>>185825483
Non-canon and irrelevant spicbait, cope Pedro and Jose.
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>>185825699
>you have to be below the Hakai user in power for it to work
Ah, this headcanon again I see.
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>>185826885
>f-fuck you you're just stupid, accept my headcanon goddamn it
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>>185838778
He looks swole as fuck in that pic
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>>185840495
IT'S NOT FAIR BROS

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FAIL
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>>185827320
Because Kefla is stronger than both suppressed Jiren and Goku, Gohan knew the blast would either knock them out or kill them so he had to save Goku
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>>185828290
if you don't shut the fuck up i'm going to come beat the fucking shit out of you
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>>185828372
That's some spicy headcanon you've got there, Juan Manuel
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>>185840757
>author's intention
>headcanon
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>>185840927
>n-no trust me I know the author's intention, he told me
Stupid Mexican.
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>>185840629
Almost as bad
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>>185825478
comics are still decent if you know where to look. First Second always puts out good stuff. But yes, comics are dead. Viz consistently beats Marvel and DC
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>>185840978
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>>185840978
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>>185841096
>still RTH
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GT GOKU CONFIRMED FOR FIGHTERZ

http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/18430
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>>185841160
Nobody gives a fuck about your watered-down shitty babby's first fighter, go back to /v/ and die there.
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>>185841160
what a fucking joke, but the fanbase will eat this shit up

even a forgotten character like General Blue would be more interesting than the 5 Gokeks and Jobetas in the game
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>>185841160
>another Goku
The game is dead
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>>185841160
ใ“ใ‚Œใƒžใ‚ธ?
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>>185840469
What if Vados was wrong
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>>185841189
This. Melee is infinitley superior
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>>185841160
>http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/18430
BASED
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>>185841160
GOKUCHADS WIN AGAIN
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>>185841189
t. Capcuck
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>>185841424
>>185841275
>>185841262
>>185841465
The best part is that it's only base+SS3 GT Goku

no SS4
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>>185841373
Melee isn't even a fighting game, nintendrone. it's just a side view Poy Poy

i'm going back to /v/
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>>185841189
Yikes
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>>185840495
Remember when retards mongoloids here said it was flopping? kek
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>>185841491
Honestly what do you do all day? Why do you care about Gohan this much?
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>>185825894

Not canon.
Only Frieza was done better in the manga.
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>>185841593
I also remember the Yamoshits.
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>>185841618
>I don't like it so it's not canon
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>>185841485
FUCK
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>>185841627
That Yamoshi argument was absolutely retarded
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>>185841004
Really?
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>>185841679
Those faggots went silent so fucking fast
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>>185834562

He fucked Caulifla in the ass though, wich is better anyway.
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>>185841747
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>>185819804

I don't know why but it looks terrible.

>Slow, yet cannot convey power because the impacts are insignificant
>Lots of "SWOOSH" and special effects where there is no move that would warrant such
>Goku's face make no sense, his sense of pain makes no sense. Goku would be distressed, sure, but the other OVA shown us pain=/=Distress better (like the ball punch from C13)
>Too static for the protagonist, movement is only implied by having a spastic autistic shaking camera angles
>The face-shredding against the wall of ice lacks impact, would have been much better if all of goku's body was rammed inside of it. We would get Broly' strenght much better

Long story short, I have no idea why anyone says it is a remotely good movie.
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>>185841960
You have no taste and should be killed.
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>GT Goku
>but uses the Nyoi bo and never goes SS4
Kek, it's basically Path to the Power Goku with end of the manga Goku's transformation
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>>185841485
Don't care. Chad Kid Goku is in and he's got Super Saiyan transformations.
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>>185842018
>>185842029
I accept your retarded concessions, GTspics.
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>>185841627
>Broly is and always will be non-canon

and he's right, new "Broly" is only Broly in name, it's a completely new character who shares the name because Toriyama's assistant was a smart guy and suggested milking the name for marketing reasons
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>>185842094
>the one lonely Yamoshitter still trying desperately to damage control
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I wonder why original Paragus didn't take Broly and join the Frieza Force again? He would've been taken in the same as Vegeta and the others right?
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>>185819804
>>185841960

I mean, look at the scene where he spins him off, it tries to be fast with lines and "swooshes" but it is slow as fuck, and yet it doesn't seem powerful (which should be the intended effect)

I will agree that the face-body slam feels satisfying, but then you have the stupid "look ! His consciousness is flickering" narutard-animu style. No broken bones, no holds, no environmental destruction, no deep impact, everything feels shallow.

Plus, let's not forget :

>1h30 long movie
>Litterally nothing happens in the first 1h10
>Retcons Bardock'story to superman tier-level stupid
>Cheelai's a good addition, and Broly's rework works, I agree, however it takes just too much goddamn time to see the action coming, and the characters are in their "SUPER" mindset, which is shit
>Gogeta should have barely, just barely lost, and be saved by the bell when Chee used the dragon balls, thus motivating Goku and Vegeta to grow even stronger. As it stands, Broly is litterally a non-menace, and will never, ever win anything.
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>>185841980

You are underage and shouldn't be using the internet.
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>>185842136
Your taste is objectively wrong. Commit suicide for the greater good.
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>>185841160
So, does this mean we're getting Baby Vegeta?
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>>185842160
cope
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>3 (THREE) Gohans in the game now
>still 0 characters from Cuckgang

oh no no no no no no nooo!!
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>>185842111
i don't give a shit about Yamoshit
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>>185841160
Kekflafags about to get dabbed on!
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>>185842275
Cope.
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>>185842261
>NOTINTHEMOVIEhan
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>>185842116
>>185842143

It isn't, it's valid critisism, the fact that your baby autistic feelings can't handle different opinions than yours says a lot more about you than you should be decently comfortable with.

Now, if you look at this (and mute the sound), you can pinpoint much better what I was trying to say :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiotTftADOc

I will agree that it is not as fast as I remember, so I will strike it off the list, but the impacts are there, and the inertia that you're supposed to feel is there as well. It plays much more on passive-environmental destruction, and steady camera angles to show the action and the impact (except when he's running), you see every consequence each hit has (and not just by """"ZOOM-ing"""" on Goku's glottis everytime he's hit).
I agree that the artstyle is fresh new, and better. It's just the movement/impacts that feel/look weird.

I would make another example by comparing 2 episodes of Tom and Jerry (one from the earlier times, and one from the more recent ones), but I have no more time for this. The only reason you all think it's a "good" movie is because you have been fed shit by DBSuper so hard and for so long that you forgot what it was to have great action sequences that were not just "well drawn", but "well felt".
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>>185814337
Remember when Friezafags were saying it would flop compared to their movie? Hahaha they must be feeling pretty stupid now
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>>185842446
>absolutely no arguments outside of buzzwords and "muh feelings", "muh impact"
You're just a nostalgia-blind retarded fuckwit cocksucker that thinks new=bad and old=good regardless of actual quality. I hope you actually die very soon.
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>>185842044
>say it's just Path to the Power Goku with DBZ Goku, nothing from GT
>(You) call me GTspic
Are you braindead?
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>>185842446
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>>185827253
don't forget being sat on by kid gohan
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>GT Kid Goku is in FighterZ
So, is Pan going to be his partner?
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>>185842504
Cope, Pedro.
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i invite you all to concede to me
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>>185842651
Level 3 incoming bros
we won again
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>>185842738
>GTspics have to cling to a shitty fighting game
>Jobrenturds have to cling to Pedroes
>Superchads are on top of the world
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>>185842738
His Level 3 is apparently the Universal Spirit Bomb.
He also has a hidden Level 3, so either SS4 or Dragon Fist.
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>>185842488

I'm sorry, they didn't teach you the concept of inertia in school yet, and you didn't experience it for yourself since you cannot get out of your fat burger basement.

>Using "muh"
>Thinking I'm against something new
>Thinking that you can't criticise baby's new sparkly toy

You sure have a lot of hope for me instead of having some for yourself, zoomer. You probably though that RoF was the best movie ever.
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>>185842769
>Superchads are stuck in a drama about some literalwho dubfaggot

kek
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>>185842018
Wooow, remind me again when Goku went SS3 in Path to Power
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>>185842289
concession accepted
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>>185842018
>Can turn SS3
>Has the Universal Spirit Bomb
>Whatever the fuck his hidden level 3 is
I didn't see any of that shit in Path to Power
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>>185842952
And he's probably going to talk about being shrunken in his intro/outro.

But that's clearly DB Goku and not GT!!!
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What did they mean by this?

do you think we'll get even more manservice in the future?
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>GTspics won

Ok if Super Baby 2 is with I'll accept. If it's faggot Omega Shenron it's a failure.
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>>185842907
>GTjuan can't read
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>>185843022
That Cumber can tap into the same berserker power Broly and Kale have, except it's orange instead of green.
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Favorite Gohan Forma ?
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>>185842877
>strawman arguments now
Yawn, I accept your concession, nostalgiaboomer.
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>>185842878
>implying the dub is at all relevant
The new Super movie is the 11th highest grossing anime movie of all time, the Super manga is continuing, the merchandise continues to outsell Kamen Rider and Gundam, and when the anime returns the quality will be movie-level. Cope.
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FUCK MONKEYS
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>>185843081
calvo for sure
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>>185842941
I win and you lose.
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>>185843076
His SS has always been orange
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>>185842877
>strawman
>ad hominem
>still no real arguments
Kek, you can't even properly defend your retarded nostalgia you fucking sperg
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>>185843081
Blanco El Diablo Calvo
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So does this mean we're also getting another GT Goku who's in SS4?
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>>185843135
That is true, but this is the first time a Berseker/Legendary transformation hasn't been green. Something really weird is going on with Cumber...
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>>185843172
either he will be part of GT Goku's other level 3 or he is gonna be in season 3
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>>185843172
His super can maybe turn him into SS4, similar to how Frieza's super turns him golden.
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Is this the most underrated form in the series?
Nobody talks about it
He only uses it for 2 minutes
It looks cool as fuck
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>>185843308
Stupid spic
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>>185843308
Both Baby Trunks and Oren Vegeta use that form.
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>>185843325
Uncalled for.
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>>185819285
>retard font
Get the fuck out newfag.
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>>185843260
Golden Freeza is just a recolor, SS4 Goku would have to have a unique model.
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>>185843084

>concession

Litterally has nothing to bring to the debate, nor any way to counter anything I said with anything else but "Yuh feelz"

>>185843148

Against a "kill urself dude xD", there's nothing but good strawmen and ad hominems. Where do you think you are ? As for my argument I offered plenty as to why the outcome of the fighting choreography wasn't as satisfying as how it would have been had they used the proper ways to convey the punches, the slams, the pain and the distress. As it stands, Broly doesn't give the impression of being "powerful", just really, really tanky.
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>>185843339
Fuck off Mexican
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>>185843308
This is the most retarded baby form, it looks like Vegeta fucked a living airplane and it gave birth to this thing.
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>>185843308
all baby forms are kino
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>>185843374
>it looks like Vegeta fucked a living airplane
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>>185843374
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>>185843367
I already accepted your concession, dog. Stop talking. Common animals don't speak.
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>>185843374
It's cool as fuck, like there's machine parts growing out of his body.
>>185843418
This.
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>>185841960
>I personally dont like this one part, why do people like things I dont like?
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tfw when you realize that gohan will be the main character in the new arc
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>>185843603
Look, it's another stupid spci.
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>>185843645
He's just a yapping nostalgiadog that wants attention, ignore him
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>>185843105
>movie level anime adaptation
kek
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>>185840688
>GT
>SS4 in Dragonball Heroes
>Not canon
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>>185843694
>no argument
kek
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>>185843710
Pedroes isn't canon, my taco-sucking compadre.
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>>185843710
All the GTposting paid off, fellow Panbro
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>>185843729

Super is now over, Heroes is the new canon.
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>>185843677
the hell is a spci esl cuck?
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>>185843846
>Super is over
>the manga written by Toriyama is still going strong
This is your mind on Pedroes spicfiction.

>>185843850
Quiet, spic dog. Your master commands you.
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>>185843757
What if Pan is the character after GT Goku?
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>>185843871

Cabron arc is shit-tier, cope.
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>>185841160
>hey we should add some characters like General Tao, Blue, Janemba, Grandpa CHADhan, Roshi, etc... The choices are limitless......
>nah lets add another Goku character
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>>185828097
Do you know how many characters are stronger than Piccolo Daimao now?
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>>185844034
>b-b-but I don't like it
It's canon and written by Toriyama. Cope, pet.
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>>185814494
>seething cuckhanfag
it was just a good movie that's all
maybe because cuckhan wasn't in it
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>>185844050
The point is that if Rildo is stronger than Majin Buu, where the fuck has he been this whole time?
How is he just a general while Frieza, who he could likely obliterate with a single punch, is an emperor.
Why would buu, created to be an ultimate biological weapon by Bibadi, be weaker than a typical mortal
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>>185843757
>All the GTposting paid off
Dragonball GT is part of Dragonball history. I think that GT is not appreciated enough, especially when some anons look down on it. Why not just take the time to watch GT?
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>>185844157
>power-creep makes no sense from plot perspective
wow do tell more
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>>185828732
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>>185844213
Really this is the one instance it doesn't make any fucking sense at all. Most of the time it can be explained or the difference in power is so small it barely matters.

Rildo and Broly are the only characters who are too powerful for the plot to make sense
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>>185837707
Can't hear you that well, huntermumbler.
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>>185843912
>What if Pan is the character after GT Goku?
You mean, Pan being the MC?
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>>185835632
>making Goku father Bejita's bastard
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>>185838778
Octopus Cooler.
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>>185844157
>The point is that if Rildo is stronger than Majin Buu, where the fuck has he been this whole time?
15 years passed between the buu arc and gt, and he also got enchanted by dr myuu
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>>185836484
>>185836677
Really dodged a bullet. And it is all thanks to the spite of Toriyama.
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>>185844157
I'm pretty sure that Riildo was only as strong as Buu after he fused with the planet.
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>>185838327
>leaks
Is it time?
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>>185843846
>Super is now over, Heroes is the new canon.
DBH has SS4, meaning DBGT is canon.
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Bulma is cuter than Pan!
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BEJITA-SAMA!!! PLEASE KISS MY WIFE!
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>>185841663
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>>185842448
>and that's why you should get Bejita-sama to kiss you
What did Chi-Chi mean by this?
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>>185844422

> SO... SORRY KAKAROT I'M BUSY RIGHT NOW... PLEASE GODDESS STOP !!
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>>185844440
SILENCE DOG! Your master commands you!
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>>185843757
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>"My favourite part of Dragonball? GT of course, why do ask?"
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>>185844489
Toasters LOVE him. Then he lets them get absorbed before taking away some midget's best friend (just to beat him up more).
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>>185844157
If Vegeta and Nappa can get to Goku in ONE (1) year, why is it that only Kami had come to Earth until the Saiyan saga?

>>185844269
>the one instance
It's not. It's the one you picked up on. What was stopping Yamcha, Krillin and Tenshinhan reaching over 8,000 before the Androids arc came around? See chapter 338 and 340 for the humans power at that time.
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>>185844588
Based
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>>185844422
Goku-sama, teach me how to go super saiyan 3!
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>>185844683
You're going to love this.
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Leaks?
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>Why yes Yamcha is my favorite character. How did you know?
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> Every single Saiyan got a new form in ToP Arc

> Goku : Ultra Instinct
> Vegeta : Evolution
> Cabba : SS2
> Caulifla : SS2
> Kale : SS2
> Gohan : ...
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>>185844725
>Jobgetafags are literal fags
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>>185844422
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>>185844756
God so fucking based
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>>185844768
>UI
>form
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>>185844768
No saiyan got a new form in the ToP, tho
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Is there a reason we haven't seen Blue 2 or 3 yet?
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>>185844504
Quiet, my precious pet.
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>>185844768
> no new form
> not in the movie
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Why are Vegetafags so cringey?
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>>185844782
>Gohan getting raped by Broly
>Goku Black molesting Vegeta
>upset about a jobber form presenting itself for what it is
I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
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>ITS FUCKING OVER, PILAF!
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>>185844817
J-Jiren-sama, I didn't expect to see you here!
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>>185844899
>>
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> Yes, Broly and Freeza are my favorite characters, now shut up or I call MODS and COPS !!
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NOOOooo CHADLY-SAMA, GOMENASAI PLEASE HAVE MERCY I'LL LET YOU KISS BERIBURU
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>replying to himself
Fucking pathetic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDzhDcyKsw
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>>185836516
>Microsoft
Microsoft doesn't even consider their Xbox division a game console anymore and Bill Gates doesn't even give a shit whether the division lives or dies regardless.
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>>185844995
>the Prince will never get a challenge from a jobber form
Why must he suffer?
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>>185844782
desu i'm a gay top and Vegeta is my fave char and also my ideal bottom (short, muscular and surly)
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>>185814440
Makes me wonder why Nip animators just don't move to America. Americans love anime and western animation has been pretty shit lately.
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>>185844943
"uhm ackchually, it's "Fuh-ri-za," and 'Bu-ro-ri'."
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>>185845106
What? So they can work on some shitty cartoon show and dishonor their family?
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>"Yes, my favourite character is Jiren. What gave it away?"
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> Yeah Jiren is great, I like him
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>>185838778
Knock knock it's Kunckles
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>>185845170
You know thinking about it, that's true unfortunately.
>Social stigma of art being for kids, so westerners are forced to be cartoonists
>Actual good products like Avatar are ruined by liberal media shoe-horning
>Nip animators will never be seen in value because of the whole CalArts social circle make it impossible for any animators to make it big without following the Bean Face animation style
I wish Japan stop with their xenophobic economic norms so they could make profit from Overseas instead of relying on Nip's blu-ray sales.
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>>185845092
>Bitches love 'Geets 'that way'
It is true.
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>>185845643
BEJITA-SAMA PLEASE FUCK MY WIFE
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(darekatasukete)
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>>185845643
Tenkaichi 3 had so much soul to it
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>>185845924
>soul
>story mode cutscenes could only have TWO characters on-screen at the same time

Soul was Budokai 1.
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>>185845995
That looks really good.
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>>185844822
it would ruin any impact we are supposed to feel with these forms
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>>185844822
Yes, they don't exist.
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It's a shame GT never got an official manga. I feel like most of it's stories would be a lot better like this.
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>>185844822
Yes, Toriyama is sick of new forms, why do you think the closest thing to a new form we had since RoF is UI, which Goku can't even use at will?
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>>185846087
CHADhan
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>>185845963
It had much more soul than the Post-Battle of Z games at least.
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>>185846225
Why not, Mr headcanon?
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>>185846277
Well I liked how lively was the menu and the gallery stuff, yeah.
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>>185846053
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>>185846251
>t's a shame GT never got an official manga.
I agree.
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>>185846319
Plus the what ifs were nice. The Bardock what if of him defeating Frieza while declaring him and Fasha was going to repopulate the saiyan race was still one of my favorite what ifs in the gameverse.
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>>185845995
>>185846087
Those hits have no impact.
Reminds me of a lot of the animation of Goku vs Frieza in Z.
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>Beerus casually fights with Champa
>Whis and Vados tell them to stop cause they'll destroy the universes

>Broly FP and Gogeta go all out
>Whis and Beerus don't give a shit

How does he do it?
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185844943
>JOBrentard has been reporting everything he doesn't like
>projecting that others call the mods ever to deal with his pathetic ass
Yikes
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>>185846251
If GT wasn't considered to be a continuation and was actually a spinoff I feel like it wouldn't got as much flack as it did. A lot of it had some great ideas in it's canon.
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>>185846553
By being hundreds of times stronger than Jobly, just like Chadren.
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>>185846553
Beerus is best boy.
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>>185846599
I feel like that's why a lot more people are coming around on it nowadays. It functions much better as an alternate ending than it does a true continuation
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>>185846599
>wouldn't got as much flack
Who gives a shit? Japan clearly still enjoys the series, as I do too.
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>>185846586
Meant for
>>185844943
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>>185846631
Beerus is also hundreds of times stronger than that shit jobren
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>>185845797
>he would rather die than kiss her
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>>185846277
I think FighterZ has plenty of soul.
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>>185846553
They were fighting carelessly, in Broly movie at least one one of the fighters considered the safety of the universe.
It's like when Beerus and Goku were destroying the universe because Goku was just learning to control SSG's power and Beerus gave no fucks, in future fights with stronger guys the universe isn't in danger.
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>>185846553
>Jiren
Makes Beerus shit himself
>Broly and Gogeta
Beerus relaxes on a beach with a baby
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>ui goku (who is stronger than cuckren) might be stronger than beerus
>broly is confirmed to be stronger than beerus
it's been months, why cant cuckrecucks accept the truth?
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>>185846940
I always underestimate how fuckhueg Piccolo got after the saiyans saga, but in retrospective, he towers over all of them at least an entire head.
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>>185846940
>4'2
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>>185846995
Who confirmed Broly is stronger than Beerus
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>>185844768
>Ultra Instinct
Not a transformation.
>Evolution
Not canon.
>SS2 Cabba
Not canon.
>SS2 Kale
Not canon.
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>>185846784
It's a good game, but it has the creativity of a polished fan-project. They knew all the right tools to keep the hypefags and reactionaries happy, but the only spin on the project was 21 herself since her design is supposed to be a well-made homage to Frieza, Cell, and Buu.
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>>185827373
๐–š๐–“๐–Ž๐–ˆ๐–”๐–‰๐–Š ๐”ฑ๐”ข๐”ต๐”ฑ ๐“ผ๐“ฝ๐”‚๐“ต๐“ฎ๐“ป
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>>185847075
>Eye color changes
>Hair color changes
>Aura changes
>Power increases
>Not a transformation.
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What the fuck makes him so strong? Did the movie even give an explanation?

And don't give me any "prodigy" shit. I want to know how he's on the level of literal gods with just normal Saiyan DNA
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Reminder that the Super anime has richer characterizations, internal logical consistency regarding power scaling, better world-building, enthralling SoL mini-arcs, higher stakes, significantly superior character designs, as well as superb art, animation, fight choreography, and a standout soundtrack. Also, it's canon.
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>>185846903
>non canon filler in anime episodes written by literal whos
>Toriyama
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>>185847122
>Eye, hair, and aura changes=transformation
t. gigantic retard.
>Power increases
Nice headcanon. Your next post will be a lengthy apology for daring to contradict your superior.
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>blocks you're path
What do?
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>>185847173
>m-muh canon promotional manga
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>>185847133
>with just normal Saiyan DNA
That's the thing, though, he was born with abnormal saiyan DNA. His abnormality is that he's that fucking strong.
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>>185846804
>Headcanon: the post
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>>185847217
nice stupid headcanon you utter retard
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>>185844768
>Implying power boosts made Gohan shit in ToP
He had some of the best fights in the arc, who gives a shit about power levels when Team Caulifla got SS1-2 with little effort?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmoYDgRBbYk
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>>185847178
>Eye, hair, and aura changes=transformation
Yes? In DB that's exactly how it works.
Also, please explain how his body working automatically somehow makes his punches deal more damage to Jiren. Because Goku had already landed some hits on him and they did nothing before UI.
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>>185847278
>That's exactly how it works
I guess Freeza, Cell, and Buu didn't transform because their hair, eyes, and aura didn't change. Fucking moron cuck.
>trying to refute actual canon information as stated in the picture posted
You're done. You lost. Be quiet.
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>>185847133
Broccoli is the legendspaghetti super sand. Like the U6 Saiyans, he's just as strong as he is, there's no tolerable justification.
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>>185847178
Silence, dog. You will bow to your superiors.
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>>185847330
Shut the fuck up you babbling idiot
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>>185847258
>GIVE ME AN EXPLANATION
>Here it is
>NO! HEADCANNON!
Dude, the movie simply states that he's a saiyan who was born impossibly strong. If he was born with it, it's in his DNA, but since he's a normal saiyan in any other way, the explanaiton is simply that his DNA make shim stronger because. If you don't like it, that's your problem, but at least watch the movie without coming here acting like an ape.
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>>185847347
BTFO. I'm better than you in every possible way. Cope.
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>>185847304
>I guess Freeza, Cell, and Buu didn't transform because their hair, eyes, and aura didn't change. Fucking moron cuck.
This is fucking dumb, you know what he meant, but you're in buttfuck Syllogism retardation town.
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>>185847356
Are you such a dumb spic you don't realise you're eating shit?
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>>185847378
>he
You got BTFO, stop trying to save face by pretending to be another person. Refute >>185847178 or concede like a good dog.
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>>185847371
You will bark when spoken to, lowly dog.
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>>185847304
>I guess Freeza, Cell, and Buu didn't transform because their hair, eyes, and aura didn't change.
Pleas,e quote where I said that it's the ONLY way it works. oh right, yo can't.
YOu also did not answer my quesiton, so I answer you don't have an actula answer, so your entire argument boils down to a strawman and an ad hominem.
Sorry, buddy, two fallacies to zero, I win. Try learning how to read next time.
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>>185847272
imagine urironically watching DBZ for the fight scenes and not for the transformations
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>>185847414
>In DB that's exactly how it works.
Cope and concede.
>your argument boils down to...
My argument boils down to official statements, which you have yet to refute. Official statements>your retarded headcanon. Kneel, dog.
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>>185847403
>e-everyone who calls me retarded is the same person
Seething.
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>>185847409
Quiet, pet. Kneel.
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>>185847232
(You)
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>>185847463
>can't refute my evidence
I guess you're admitting that you lost to me, your intellectual and far more knowledgeable superior. Now shut the fuck up and don't post again unless it's a length expose detailing all the myriad ways that you're inferior to me.
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>>185847474
Not an argument. Cope.
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Ultra Instinct makes Goku:
>makes him way faster
>makes him considerably stronger
>changes his haircolor
>changes his eyecolor
Yeah, it's a transformation.
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>>185847122
>stated to be a technique
>b-but muh transformations
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>>185847481
It must suck to be objectively wrong like you are.
I'm sorry you have to live that way.
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>>185847278
>Also, please explain how his body working automatically somehow makes his punches deal more damage to Jiren
You have been spoon-fed that information a million times over, it's not going away because brainlets like you don't like it.
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>>185847178
>>185847504
Still no refutation. As stated clearly, it doesn't make him faster or stronger. Stop with your spic-canon.

>>185847530
>STILL can't refute the above post
Just concede. It'll be less embarrassing for you.
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>>185847508
A technique that just so happens to change his outward appearance and make him far stronger than SSB and even SSB+Kaioken (in the anime)
It's obviously a transformation, you brainlet.
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>>185847504
>literally stated to be a technique in official capacity which was posted 10 minutes ago
>t-t-transformation! h-hair and eyes! muh aura!
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185847504
>faster and stronger
discarded
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>>185847553
>I-I don't know! But I must act belligerent in hopes that I can intimidate you into no longer BTFOing me.
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>>185847575
>changes his outward appearance and makes him stronger
I guess KK is a transformation too you fucking idiot. Also it doesn't make him stronger, you keep saying this while ignoring the post that proves it DOESN'T make him stronger. Cope and concede.
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>>185847452
Imagine caring about transformations past the age of 12.
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>>185847617
>not a single rebuttal to >>185847178
You really should just concede at this point, it's fucking embarrassing watching you continue fighting when you've already been proved wrong.
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>>185847606
It also makes him faster and far stronger. That's objectively true.
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>>185847624
>I guess KK is a transformation too you fucking idiot.
If Kaioken can be maintained for a long enough time and not in short bursts, yes.
>Also it doesn't make him stronger, you keep saying this while ignoring the post that proves it DOESN'T make him stronger.
You insisting something is true doesn't prove anything, you dumb lardo.
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>>185847658
Except it doesn't, as stated here >>185847178
>b-but muh Toei!
Toei's fanfiction Blanco form isn't canon and doesn't follow Toriyama's draft of what UI Goku actually is. It's irrelevant. Cope.

>>185847688
>he's now arguing that KK is a transformation
Discarded. There's no arguing with someone as massively retarded as you. There's already been a post that proves UI isn't a powerup and none of you pathetic Toei brainlets have refuted it.
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>>185847655
What do you call something that changes a character's outward appearance and boosts their strength and speed for an extended amount of time?
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>>185847575
>a technique that is a transformation because I say so
No, retard.
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>>185847726
>mangaspic
oh fuck that's the reason you're sperging so hard
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>>185847728
Except it doesn't boost his strength and speed. You're literally arguing against what the fucking technique is stated to do. Refute that picture or stop posting.
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>>185847770
>deflection and ad hominem
Concession accepted. You know you've lost, now you're just trying to pretend like you were shitposting and don't actually care.
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>>185847735
So then why does it change his hair, haircolor, eyecolor, aura and his strength?
Feel free to explain it without latching on to "B-BUT THIS PAGE WRITTEN BY AN UNPAID INTERN CALLS IT A TECHNIQUE," like a lowly parasite.
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>>185847788
The opinions of manga readers literally do not matter.
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Aren't transformations inherently techniques in the first place? That's like saying whether a cloud is made of water or not.
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>>185847804
>m-my headcanon is more reliable than official statements!
Cope and concede.

>>185847845
Yes, we know you're still crying about your cancelled non-canon fanfiction, Jose Alejandro.
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>>185847774
So why couldn't SSB Goku beat Jiren then?
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>>185847845
kek imagine being this much of a fat close-minded sperg
toeispics are the most pathetic cucks on /a/, they literally can't get over their filipino cartoon getting shitcanned
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>>185847882
Because it doesn't give him auto-dodge and auto-counter like UI does and he was fighting like a retard as Roshi stated. I know you're fucking stupid but at least try to connect the dots yourself
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>>185847869
Call me back when you realize your Tracetaro manga-reading opinions are worth less than dogshit on the side of the road.
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>>185847916
Keep crying. You got proved wrong and had to deflect to "b-b-but muh canon chadnime" even though it's cancelled and was never canon to begin with.
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>>185847915
Doesn't matter. If Goku was able to hit Jiren at all in SSB, whether it's his hand, his shoulder, whatever- it should still harm Jiren. Yet, SSB Goku couldn't even do that.
And since Ultra Instinct is a "technique" according to you, and he doesn't have SSB activated at the same time, he's base Goku trying to take on Jiren- no amount of auto-dodges are going to change the fact that Goku's punches would feel like a fly impacting on Jiren's body.
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>>185847991
>according to you
According to official statements >>185847178, which you STILL have not rebutted, and at this point I'm taking it as an admittance of being unable to. Therefore, I accept your concession. You LOSE.
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>>185847991
>both SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta landed solid, damaging blows on Jiren in both the anime and the manga
What did the retarded cuckspic speedwatcher/speedreader mean by this?
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>>185847991
ultra instinct is literally goku's maximum level of power combined with auto-dodge/auto-counter hax you stupid bitch
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>>185847916
holy FUCK toeispics are still so fucking mad
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>>185848063
Goku's hits literally do not faze him, and this is in perfected/mastered SSB.
You mean to tell me that Goku with base form power would be able to harm him just because has auto-dodge hacks? You're delusional.
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>>185842116
>As it stands, Broly is literally a non-menace

I mean he's literally never fought anyone before this besides his weak ass father in training and still put up a fight against a fusion of the 2 strongest mortals in his universe with just full power ape + normal SS. First off his Zenkai is gonna be massive and if he ever learned half the forms Goku and Vegeta have access to he'd be a terror in most of the multiverse. I actually believe that this movie had the opposite effect in that there should be no reason to ever fear anything again, just have Whis train Broly and if worst comes to worse have him fuse with Goku for that sweet sweet asspull plot armor and GG
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>>185848127
See >>185848088
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>>185848088
Wrong. Ultra Instinct is a technique, not a transformation according to >>185848033 , so it's base form Goku power with the ability to dodge better.
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>>185848146
>two strongest mortals in his universe
Gohan is stronger than Goku or Vegeta individually as of the ToP
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>>185848167
>using his maximum level of power means it's a transformation
do you just lack reading comprehension or something you fat ugly worthless spic? you should have been aborted
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>>185848063
AHEM

UI level A17!
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>>185848197
Why do transformations even exist if he can reach SSB levels of power while staying base, you absolute mongoloid.
Just admit that you've lost and you're dumb as bricks. UI is a transformation.
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>>185848198
we all know that toei's fanfiction was blatantly retarded
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>>185848228
because UI is a technique
>UI is a transformation
Nope as stated in the picture that you haven't refuted. official statement>your retarded headcanon. cope dog.
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>>185848228
>UI is a transformation
>>185847178
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>>185848127
And yet just by dodging and doing perfect counters he bitched Jobren into exhaustion
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>>185848249
>>185848264
I accept your concession, mangaspic.
I've outlined exactly why I am right, thank you for being so easy.
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>>185848177
Only in the manga which the movie isn't based on and honestly hes really not because he's fallen from grace in most fans eyes because unless you read said super manga which most fans being animeonlys he's been made into a little bitch time and again so he'll never be officially allowed to be stronger than the main characters aka Goku and Vegeta
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>>185848274
>again called a technique, not a transformation
spics BTFO

>>185848296
Cope, you've lost again.

>>185848299
>movie isn't based on the manga
>no SSBE
>no SSBKK
>Goku remembers fighting the GoDs
opinion discarded toeidog.
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>>185848274
Enough, apparently, that base form Goku strength could harm Jiren whereas he couldn't feel any hits from Perfected SSB Goku.
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>>185848296
>literally can't refute the official statement
>just plugs his ears and screeches I WIN I WIN I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT
Just like a typical Toeipoodle.
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>>185848177
>Gohan
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>>185848339
>"m-muh official statement written by an unpaid intern is word of god!!"
cute
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>>185848371
>n-no it was written by an unpaid intern t-trust me otherwise my headcanon will implode
Official statements and official media>what some fat spic on /a/ says. Cope. I'm right and you're wrong.
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>>185848371
>get BTFO
>start complaining about the source the evidence originates from as if that is in any way relevant
Kek, you're fucking done.
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>Jiren feels nothing when he has to block both Hit and SSB Goku's attacks for an extended amount of time
>Gets beaten by a base Goku-level fighter just because he can dodge well
Kek.
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The UI the angels and Beerus use is a technique
The UI Goku uses is a transformation
Now shut the fuck up.
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>>185848392
>>185848420
I've already proven you wrong. Now all I can do is laugh at you as you latch on to something so inconsequential to the point that you're willing to contradict all other visual information to the contrary.
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>>185848479
>I-I've proven you wrong by arguing against official statements with my headcanon
Quiet.
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>>185848472
This is how I see it.
They honestly need to explain what and how that functions, because it's obvious that regular UI is just meant to hone your reflexes and make you take action without thinking.
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>>185848369
BASED
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>>185814337
Advertised enough to get wider theatrical release.
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>>185848274
Beerus also has his own pseudo Omen that only lasts a couple of dodges, and he didn't blitz or oneshot anyone.
Gokekmongs are fucking obsessed with their spicfictions.
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>>185848504
>my headcanon
Panels from your vaunted tracer manga.
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>>185848560
>panel that literally calls it a technique
Congratulations, you just defeated yourself for me.
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>>185848583
>calls it a technique
>shows it's clearly a transformation
Congratulations, you've once more conceded
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>>185848541
Shut up and cope you fucking retard.
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>>185848628
>b-b-B-BUT MY HEADCANON CLEARLY STATES
Quiet.
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>>185848583
Okay, so if somebody tells you something works one way, and then you are shown it clearly working another way, which do you believe?
Apparently you believe what you are told over what you can clearly see, like a mongoloid that needs to be spoonfed.
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>>185848672
>literally nothing visually showing it's a transformation
>b-b-but muh aura and eyes
Not an argument.
>called a technique
Cope and concede, my precious pet.
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>>185848657
Okay, so why can base form Goku hurt Jiren whereas he previously took several hits from perfected SSB Goku without any scratches?
Feel free to explain that to the class. I'll stand in the background and laugh as you squirm.
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>>185848707
>d-d-didn't flinch
And later both SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta were able to land damaging blows on him. Cope.
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>>185848332
It's not base Goku, it's a shameless toy grab new look where Goku acts all generic badass and doesn't talk.
Toei even added roars and shit completely missing the context of UI, but no biggie, Toriyama is now the source again, Toei will have to resort to filler again to make Goku not job to his own shadow.
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>>185848732
Again- why could perfected SSB Goku not scratch Jiren after several blocked hits. You'd assume the pure impact would at least affect Jiren.
But no, later, he falters with ease to base level Goku strength.
Again, explain.
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>>185848801
>ignores that both SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta were able to land damaging blows on Jiren
>also ignores that UI is a technique that uses the user's maximum level of power combined with auto-dodge
Cope and concede, my pet.
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>>185848773
If it's a technique and not a transformation as mangaspic anon keeps insisting, then that means Goku is still in his base form and possesses base form levels of power- just that he can now dodge better.
So now he'll have to explain why a base form Goku can hurt Jiren. Meanwhile, I can laugh at him for trying.
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>>185848837
>also ignores that UI is a technique that uses the user's maximum level of power combined with auto-dodge
No, because you said it's a technique, not a transformation. Therefore it should not be able to make Goku as strong or stronger than SSB, otherwise there'd be no reason for SSB to exist, if Goku can reach the same level of power in base form.
Try again.
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>>185848876
He can't control UI you fucking retarded sperg. Read, Pedro. I know it's hard for you worthless spics to comprehend English.
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>>185848876
>you said
the manga and an official statement said it's a technique, mexican dogtard.
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>>185848895
Literally irrelevant. It's not a transformation, like you said. It shouldn't be able to give him power equal to or superior to SSB, which is an actual transformation.
Man, it's funny to shit all over you and all I need to use is common sense and observation.
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>>185848935
>headcanon on top of headcanon
>h-hehe I win lelel u mad xD
I love showing how superior I am to you retarded Toeifags.
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>>185848959
Yes, I made a clear observation that contradicts your every claim and now you are squirming like a madman. "B-but muh that's headcanon!!! Uhm..
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>>185848935
>a technique shouldn't be able to increase power
>what is Kaioken
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>>185848959
>UI is a technique, b-but it can give the user their maximum level of power as well as auto-dodge!
Kek. Keep losing.
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>>185848973
Yes, Toeidog, you spouted headcanon and are now pretending like you've won. It was funny at first, but now you bore me.
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>>185849007
>>185848997
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>>185848997
First you were latching on to text like a religious person that clearly stated that Ultra Instinct is a technique that allows a person to dodge and act without thinking.
Now you've lost so hard you're down to "b-but actually it also increases the user's power to be on the level of their strongest transformation, if not stronger!"
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>>185849058
That was literally the argument from the start, Toeipoodle. It's not my fault you're too fucking retarded to follow a post chain.
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>>185849033
Yet to see Kaioken reach SSB levels of power.
Yet to see Kaioken be maintained for more than a few moments.
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>>185849058
cope and concede you pathetic drooling dog. you fat fucking worthless canid beast, your master has had enough of your shit. get the fuck back to your kennel and obediently die there, maggot dog.
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>>185849104
>b-b-BUT THAT TECHNIQUE DIDN'T INCREASE HIS POWER AS MUCH S-SO IT CAN'T BE A TECHNIQUE LIKE THAT
This is how retarded you sound, beaner.
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>>185849104
>Yet to see Kaioken be maintained for more than a few moments.
Except Goku used a prolonged version of Kaioken against both Ginyu and Freeza on Namek, Superbabby.
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>>185849097
No, your argument was "B-BUT THIS TINY PARAGRAPH OF TEXT."
Nothing in it states that it increases a user's power to their maximum, so you can decide to either be a parasite who latches on to literal statements like they're holy text, or you can use your own head to form arguments based on clear observation. Not both.
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>>185849119
based
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>>185849199
>posts the thing that BTFO him once again
Good dog. There's a very good pup.
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>>185849140
>>185849185
So what would Kaioken be if it could be maintained for extended periods of time?
Something like- I don't know.. a transformation?
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>>185849236
Nope, it's still a technique. Nice to see you backpedal in obedient subservience, my precious pet. Kneel.
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>>185849119
>seething this hard after losing for everyone to see
kek
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>>185849277
shut the fuck up pet, your god didn't give you permission to speak
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>>185849274
Concession accepted.
God, it feels good to win.
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>>185849323
>get BTFO
>c-c-concession a-a-accepted
Silence, pet. Kneel.
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>>185849220
So feel free to mention what part of that describes UI as a technique that also increases a user's power to their max.
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>>185847804
>it changes his hair so it's not a technique, despite being called a technique
>it changes his eyes so it's not a technique, despite being called a technique
>I'm a retard that thinks it makes him physically stronger so it's not a technique, despite being called a technique
Yikes

Also
>page written by unpaid intern
You mean page written by Toyotaro in his manga that is checked and corrected by Toriyama every month? See >>185848274
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>>185849316
>anally annihilated toyospic
the smell is quite grotesque, but the victory feels immaculate
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>>185849365
>too retarded to draw conclusions
Bad pup. Return to your kennel, now.
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>>185849407
you better shut the fuck up if you know what's good for you, you fat fucking ugly ass flea-ridden dog piece of shit
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>>185849388
I've already shown that it actually makes Goku physically stronger, so now you have to explain why it makes Goku physically stronger, even though the religious text in >>185849199 states no such thing.
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>>185849428
seething concession accepted
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>there are still poodles who claim the manga is fanfiction
SAD
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>>185849411
>you are wrong because this text says you're wrong
>i am right because I can draw conclusions based on visual cues
Thank you for admitting that I am right.
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>>185849497
I'd say most people just think the manga is so bad it may as well be fanfiction.
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>>185849521
No, I draw conclusions based on the official statements we're given, not my own headcanon, like a certain disobedient pet.
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>>185849623
So what official statement said that UI is a technique that gives Goku his max power, seething Toyospic?
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>>185849460
>I've already spammed my headcanon
Why and why do you keep pretending it matters? Kaioken makes you stronger too and it's still a technique so even UI made Goku stronger like your dumb headcanon says it would still be a fucking technique
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>>185849699
See
>>185849648
And if UI
>Makes a character stronger
>Makes a person faster
>Changes their hair
>Changes their eyes
>Changes their aura
>Can be maintained for an extended amount of time
Then the barrier between technique and transformation is essentially meaningless anyway.
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>>185814440
>Animators in Japan are criminally underpaid
Depends on the animator's experience and the studio. You can't generalize.



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