In the canon light novel which Toriyama oversaw, Freeza states SSJ Broly (not full power green hair) couldn't be defeated by anyone. Freeza has seen Jiren and UI Goku's power and yet makes that claimSSB Gogeta > LSSJ Broly > SSJ Gogeta > SSJ Broly > UI Goku >Jiren/Beerus
>>184554788>canon light novelOnly the anime is canon, faggot. Promotional mangas and promotional light novels are in the same tier as promotional videogames.
>>184554788oh no no
>>184554788He also saw Zeno erase multiple universes!
>>184554788Holy shit, Jiren is such a little bitch.
>>184554788>B-BEJITA SAMA, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA KISS HER
SAVE ME BABIDI SAMAAAAAAAAAA
>>184554788Freeza is a brainlet
>>184556023SS1 Broly > Zeno
>>184554911>anime is canonThen why the movie says Freeza never knew about fusion dance, even when he knew about it in the anime? Why the movie has SSB as the strongest form Goku and Vegeta can use at will, even when Vegeta has an extra, Ascended SS-like form in the anime? Why the movie shows that when the irises of the legendary SS are visible, the saiyan has pupils, even when it had regular pupilless eyes (like any other SS) in the anime? Why the movie never credits the DBS anime series, even when the DBS manga series is credited? Why is the anime still canned (and no news announcing its return even after a year), even when the manga is still on going with another Toriyama's story? Why no official source ever used the canon word with DBS when talking exclusively about the anime version, even when they use it just fine when they talk about the manga? Why the anime had arcs with zero Toriyama involvement even when Toriyama has been involved with every arc (in fact every single chapter) from the manga? Why did the anime include non-canon character and plots like Mr. Satan's students (Piiza, Pirozhki and Caroni), future Trunks needing Gohan's death to being able to turn SS or Ginyu-frog swaping bodies with Bulma during the Namek arc, even when the manga ignore this non-canon stuff?Maybe because you are wrong? Yeah, that's what I noticed.
>>184556271>base form Jirenkek dumb Brolyfag
Would you give Z-broly a second chance?
>>184556313>Jiren>having more than 1 formYikes
To the retard asking how kefla fusion worked here is a explanation
>>184556431>no argumentThat's what I thought.
>>184556538No that is Gokule, here is the actual explanation
>>184556538>4 * 2 = 4.5 in Toriyama's head
>>184556613Toriyama manga or episode written by toei slaveHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i wonder which is more reliable
>>184556613Manga>animeLook, I’m just entering the conversation but you can’t start by not bringing a credible source of your claims, the only stablished canon is the manga confirmed by dragon ball super broly, now before you start moving the goal post, look for a credible source to your claims, the anime is pretty inaccurate for stuff like lore because the liberties it takes away from the source himself that it is toriyama, now look for a interview, a comment from the manga or a direct statement from toriyama himself that contradict what I posted
>>184556613>Toriyama's original manga vs ToeiYikes. Sorry anondecent fighter + fly = somewhat decent fighterFusing wasn't enough to make Kale surpass SSB Goku because Tortifla was a weakling, it's the same that happened with Black and Zamasu
>>184554788>Freeza states SSJ Broly (not full power green hair) couldn't be defeated by anyone.Anyone who was there at the time, faggot. He didn't know about Gogeta, he didn't know Beerus was on Earth, and he didn't notice Whis.
>>184556734>>184556782>>184556872>Toriyama's manga>when refering to another character>when he didn't even create Kefla>Goku's assumption of a retconned methodWe all playing retards today?
>>184556872>Toriyama's headcanonbigger Yikes
IT'S TIME, IT'S SHOWTIME!
>>184556706The earrings themselves give an additional multiplier.
>DBS manga formula for fusing: Fusing with a fly won't make a big difference even after combining your power levels, you two need to be equal to get a really big boost (plus transformations)>the same as the original DB manga>DBS anime formula for fusing: Fusing always multiplies the power tens of times after combining your power levels, making the fusion stupidly op since the start, transformations aside>the same description Toei gave for SS4 Gogeta in the GT guideHmmm I wonder what's the correct formula, the one from Toriyama's DB or the one from Toei's GT...
>>184556998>>184556989>THE CREATOR IS WRONG!look, you have no power over the source material, you can’t just come and say you know more about the autor intent than himself, you need to understand than even as infuriating as it is what is written is written unless retconed and specified, call it whatever you want bad writing or else what toriyama said is set in stone
>>184557132>>THE CREATOR IS WRONG!He didn't create Kefla, so yeah...
Imagine playing rough with Videl
Vegeta is a jobber.
>>184556989>it's another character so the formula changes!>he didn't made this other fusion yet so the formula was changed!>author intent means nothing, the only character to ever mention how the fusion of a strong guy and a weakling would work in the manga is wrong!>they added more info about the time limit of the potaras therefore the power formula was changed too!'kay anon
>>184557200>>it's another character so the formula changes!It does unless you think Satan is as close to Goku as Cauilifla is to Kale>>he didn't made this other fusion yet so the formula was changed!Nope his formula doesn't apply to something he didn't create.Fucking spic
>>184554788Japs actually liked GT. The only reason they act like they don't is because we don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zagRzW_EVE
>>184557353>Japs actually liked GT.No they didn't retard, japanese dokkanfags are acting like rabid dogs because Majuub and Baby are getting cards of the highest rarity.They only like SS4
He was right
>>184557107earring are different from dance
>>184557353Is that why it only lasted for 64 episodes?
>>184557410>They only like SS4There's more to GT that besides SS4?
>>184557107The DBGT guide said Gogeta was dozens of times stronger than Goku, it's not even close to the multiplier Kefla got.
>>184557532He mentioned GT first and said it was the same as super in terms of fusion multiplier. The fuck is wrong with you.
>>184557513>DBGT guideAre you reading what are you writing?>>184557440>>184556538
>>184557587I didn't bring it up, just proving the guy comparing it so super wrong.
>>184557102Where the fuck is this stated?
>>184557599Yes >>184557107>>the same description Toei gave for SS4 Gogeta in the GT guideThis dude is wrong>>1845576282 clicks anon, lazy piece of shit can't even follow a chain.
>>184557599what are you referring to specifically
So what happens if an potara fusion does the fusion dance with another potara fusion?
How can other fags even compete against Chadly's theme?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Jf_5uYCPEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7jTVsavZxchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibb_B4bQ6VM
>>184556271>not even tall enough to suck CHADly's cock up to baseOhnonono, jobrenbros, it's impossible to recover
>>184557675Proof ? It’s stared by DBS manga that the difference is that one last an hour and can unfuse if it generates to much power, and the other will last 30 minutes even after reaching levels over GoDs
>>184557713people get so worked up with their insults in these threads i lose track of whos mad at who for what
What if Jiren fused with Toppo?
>>184554788what the fuck difference does it make.If you started watching the latest dragon ball media and there wasn't a new super strong baddie that the Z fighters have to level up to defeat you wouldnt fucking watch/read it
>>184557745then you get a [DOMAIN ERROR]
I just realized Jiren is the only character in Dragonball who doesn't have a big attack or even shouts his attacks. He just does themAlso, how come people call him the strongest mortal when we've yet to see at least 4 other universes?
>>184557745If the potara power is big enough they will unfuse and then you can clock the dance time to unfuse, if not first the hour of potara then dance
>>184557326>It doesNo you literal retard, the result would change because you changed the factors but the formula is the same. Caulifla is closer to Kale than Satan is to Goku so the difference between Kale and Kefla is obviously bigger than the difference between Goku and Gotan, but the formula still says it can't possibly be a power up as amazing as in the other cases because Caulifla is still shit compared to Kale, you can't compare that boost with Gotenks, Gogeta or Vegetto's>a rule established for this type of character doesn't apply when you introduce a new character of the same typeI'm really sorry, looks like you are an actual retard, I shouldn't be so mean with someone like you, I hope you can forgive me
Chadly always wins baby!
>>184557132I mean, it's a valid point. There's no reason to assume that Goku, who is SPECULATING about the effect at that, is a reliable source to how it would work.I'm not saying any other source on that is more reliable at that, but Goku sure as shit isn't one either.
>>184557440Yes, but the retards at Toei wrote the same exact formula for GT, meaning they treat both fusions as the same, just "lol add one power to the other and multiply it tens times"
>>184557838>Calls DBS manga fanspiction >when supporting his claims in GT guides and DBS anime Are you fucking mental ?
>>184557855>ad hominemYou lose
>>184557840>Raditz, Nappa, Zarbon, Dodoria, Ginyu, Androids, Dabura, Broly>Naming their attacks
>>184557513>>184557650Are you fucking retarded? It's exactly what Toei wrote for Kekfla >>184556613
>>184557893> Toei wrote the same exact formula for GTStop lying see >>184557513
>>184557901You can’t aply reasoning tools to prove a point over someone else creative work, you can only use them correctly over stuff in reality and existing cases
>>184557767Not him but I guess you only read DBS and not DB, otherwise you would know the dance can unfuse for generating too much power too, in fact that idea was introduced with the dance, not the potaras.
>>184557932>dozens of times stronger that the fusee at full power = base tens of times stronger than the fusee at full powerYou are wrong
>>184554788Broly will be next God of Destruction...Calling it
>>184557901>he can't possibly refute a single argument so he points out at the part when he's called a retard (in the middle of the arguments that proven him wrong) and leavesOkay anon, you can leave now.
A guy this angry must be a stinky Amerifat
>>184557998Isn't that related to the energy consumption of Super Saiyan 3? It might not be the power itself, and just that instead.
>Some people thinking this franchise is dead after being a total success in financial revenue specially during the last year. https://comicbook.com/anime/amp/2019/02/11/dragon-ball-toei-bandai-gross-1-billion-2018/
>>184557969I’ve only seen you moving the goal post and not bringing your source over my claim, you stating a fusion over the other is your headcanon unless prover otherwise by the source >>184557998That doesn’t happen with the dance retcon in DBS broly movie, since it can fuse instantly again after defusing and not waiting an hour to do so and gogeta was like 10 times magnitudes stronger than SS3 gotenks, destroyed dimensions and never unfused
>>184557200i want to make kale think i love her. i want her to think she finally has someone who truly cares about her and wants her as a person. i want to buy a ring, and leave it somewhere where she will find it and think i will propose. i want her to spend her days giddy with excitement, waiting for the big question to come. but what comes is something else. i want to shatter her world view by letting loose my frustrations of her and how much i hate her. i want her to apologize in between her sobs. i want to finally say i want to break up and see her stunned into silence. i want to leave her and hear her wails of despair slowly grow quieter as i walk away. i want her to spend months in tears, hopelessly depending on her friends to ease the pain. i want caulifla to hate me for what i did and try to come after me but kale musters up enough will to tell her to stop. i want to send kale a letter a few months down the line once she finally has begun the process of letting go. i want her to see the invitation to my wedding, enclosed a picture of the groom and his bride to be, wearing her engagement ring. i want all the months of healing to be for naught and the floodgates of sadness to open once more. i want to receive a message from cabba shortly after the wedding informing me kale has passed away, cause of death; suicide.i want kale to be rewarded for attempting to save the universe by keeping her body in heaven, and when she gathers enough guts to check in on the living, she tunes in right when my first child is born
>>184557948Stop lying and see the episode where Vados says it
>>184558100Post the GT guide.
>>184558084This man is right, it happened to goku in the kid buu fight
GT WAS A MASTERPIECE YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS.
>>184558126not even close to what vados is saying >>184556613This toyofag is a lying snake.
>>184558134>DBS isn't canonConcession accepted.
>>184558134You are sperging with someone who is waiting for you to prove your claims, I started watching DB and DBZ way before you in 1997 when it started airing in my country, I don’t need to sorry like you to prove you wrong and your flailing its only showing you know shit about the franchise let alone prove your claims
>>184558136It's amazing how it's consistently shown to be a pretty shit transformation in the original series. It gets a grand total of three showings, and every time the consumption fucks the user up.
>>184558146>filenameWhy am I not surprised?
>>184558048>someone at toei had the time of his life
>>184558134>DBS isn’t canonWew
>>184558201Fuck off you racist cunt.
>>184558249You first, you disgusting wetback.
>>184558233>Proven wrong and started sperging like a HxH mutWell it wasn’t long before his stupidity broke him
>>184558261It's not canon, it's a literal fanfic
>>184558233Cope, dog. You lost.
>>184557893literally what are you even saying
so if youre a spic if you like anything relating to dragon ball, who are the people flinging "spic" around? why are there people in here who dont like dragon ball calling everybody spics? why are you in this thread if you dont like dragon ball?>no only x are spicsyoure a spic if you like gt. youre a spic if you like super. youre a spic if you like original db. youre a spic if you like buu. youre a spic if you like cell. youre a spic if you like the movies. i mean, there is NOTHING that anyone can claim to like and not be called a spic for it. so what are those people doing here getting mad at spics who like dragon ball? just go find a nichijou thread and go there
>>184558146The bait is so blatantly obvious. Work on them, you retard
>>184558318shut the fuck up, we're all spics here
>>184558326Not an argument.
>>184558233>no argumentKeep crying.
>>184558318>tfw you're black and call others spics/devilish/
>>184558326so what do you want to talk about?
Did Caulifla, Kale or Kefla get a good beating in the DBS manga?
Reminder that manga Kefla is implied to have the best mix of power and battle sense, at no point was she stated to be the strongest person fighting.Cope
>>184558374Not an argument.
>>184558084Impossible, Gotenks was able to wait for the last 5 minutes of the fusion and then stay as SS3 for 5 minutes, but going SS3 since the start still granted 5 minutes of fusion. If it was a time consumption thing, SS3 fusion should consume time 6 times faster than regular fusion (30 / 6 = 5) and waiting for the last 5 minutes would result into a fusion that lasts less than a minute.>>184558094Welp, that's a lot of headcanon, stop claiming everything is a retcon when several explanations could make sense of these scenes.First nobody said they can fuse instantly after defusing, Piccolo could have been talking about wait 30 minutes before keep practicing. Nothing states they can instantly fuse after defusing.Second we don't know how long was Gogeta and Broly fight in-universe, or you forgot stuff like the last 5 minutes of Namek? As far we know the fight could have been 4 minutes long.Third we don't know if just having a big power is enough to make the fusion shorter, the problem could have been the power boost, the act of multiplying fusion's base form, maybe the time is shortened when you surpass the SS2 barrier, otherwise even base Gogeta would be strong enough to last only 5 minutes (but again nobody knows how many minutes was he fighting)
By the power of greenskull, I HAVE THE POWER!!!
>>184558400Cuckfla also got demolished by CHADhan, meaning Gohan is stronger than Gokek Blue and Golden Freezer.
>>184558400Just goes to show that battle sense is worthless huh.
i just filtered spic. lets see how empty these threads get now
>>184558374>NUH RGYOOMENthe fuck?
>>184558428oh no no no, how could this happen chadhanbros
>>184554788Based official facts!
>>184558388Caulifla looked like a rape victim when Freeza was beating her
>>184558475Not an argument.
>>184558428I'm disappointed in you, son.
WITNESSThe strongest mortal
>>184558501s-surely the super anime is credited too ha ha they just forgot to put him next to the Super manga or something like that right?
>>184558540She is disappointed in Goku too.
>>184558556Not an argument.
All things considered I really enjoy Dragonball discussion
>>184558432>Impossible, Gotenks was able to wait for the last 5 minutes of the fusion and then stay as SS3 for 5 minutes, but going SS3 since the start still granted 5 minutes of fusion. If it was a time consumption thing, SS3 fusion should consume time 6 times faster than regular fusion (30 / 6 = 5) and waiting for the last 5 minutes would result into a fusion that lasts less than a minute.Was it ever stated that he spent the full 5 minutes in SS3 the first time around? If memory serves, the fight in the Room of Time and Space never gave any kind of time frame. The only exception to this is that Piccolo thought that it had been over an hour since Buu escaped, because he mixed the time dilation up. When he realized that in the real world, I think he said it couldn't have been more than 10 seconds?
>>184555953>same retard that never posts anything official or canon...
>>184558612My pic is a few minutes after that so she was merely pretending
>>184558595based CHAD of /a/
>>184558612oh no no bros
>>184556271Look at the indignation on Jobren's face lmao
>>184556230Holy shit, learn English please
>>184558428>>184558519>>184558540Thank you, anons.
>>184558694>his strongest form at the time shitalked by a woman half his sizeOur hero, son gokek...
reminder that Gogeta was the real villain of the movie because Broly was just an autistic kid with special needs and instead of helping him Gogeta attempted to murder him
>>184558794You don't get charges when you kill a rabid dog that is attacking you.
>>184558794That's what happens when you combine Vegeta's pride with Goku's arrogance.
I want to hug frieza so much!
>>184558763>can't use it offensively>literally defeats her without even trying>Goes out with less eliminations than FrostTruly the power of U6 söyans...
>>184558852Since Kefla is Caulifla+Kale, she had the most eliminations in the ToP.
>>184558876That's not how it works.
>>184558794Saiyans are all autistic children, there was no real villain, only a strong saiyan and a weak one who was about to be disposed of.
>>184558852>>literally defeats her without even tryingExcept he used all of his power in single attack because he was to weak to punch her out
>>184558599>Was it ever stated that he spent the full 5 minutes in SS3 the first time around?Goten and Trunks were pretty sure about the strategy so they probably tried before the real fight, but even if they didn't, when their time ran out against SuperB they just understood they consumed the 5 minutes, otherwise they would ask themselves what happened and why they defused earlier.I think the "after going beyond SS2 is when the fusion can only exist for 5 minutes" is the most likely explanation since Goku mentioned the 30 minutes when talking about the fusion. Even if Gogeta is stronger than SSB in base form he still lasts his full time unless he goes over the top with OP forms (something that wasn't supposed to be necessary because Broly didn't go green yet, SS Gogeta should have been enough and he should last 30 minutes like Goku said). This could also explain why he didn't defuse, they learned from their mistake in the Black arc so they only went SSB when Broly powered up too much, meaning they still had 5 full minutes when Broly went full power.
>>184558949>used all of his power>could go SSB in the next episodeOkaaay
How do you go from this...
Wow, this Broly guy just murdered my entire family... he's really strong!
>>184559012Stamina is a meme in Toei's fanficRemember Vegeta consuming all his energy in a move so over the top that he almost killed himself by using all his reserves... just to go SSGSSEvolution in the next episode, that happens (in-universe) not even 5 minutes after the previous one?
>>184557855>Caulifla is closer to Kale than Satan is to Goku so the difference between KaleIs she? Kale is stronger than a bunch of SS3 from Z put together.
>>184559130then he gets out of juice quickly and tries to fight Jiren in base form before getting ringed out
>>184554788>In the canon light novel which Toriyama oversawBy "oversaw" you mean he read the synopsis a toei monkey gave him and then signed a paper to confirm he "oversaw" it.
>>184556110That must be one tiny dog to be the size of Bah's ear
>>184559208Yeah after using his form beyond SSGSS, instead being unable to go SS since the start like he should have been if he truly was out of stamina
>>184558519>blitzed by base Keru
Just let Gohan do the goddammed God ritual Toriyama. Is literally easier than going to buy an icecream. Think of the toys, merchandise why the fuck haven't you done it yet
>>184559585>movie>light novel>novelAre there any other Broly adaptations I should know about?
>>184558583meaning that Jiren is also weaker, since UI Omen is his level sans Toei retarded asspull.
>>184559634The only way Gohan is going God or beyond is if the anime continues. Manga Gohan isn’t interested in that flashy Saiyanshit.
>>184559537yeah he had like 5% of stamina left instead of 0%
When do they fuck?
quick rundown on the VA drama?
>>184559634Not going to happen, now with Broly they couldn't explain in universe why Broly doesn't do the ritual too.
Is jiren actually stronger than beerus?
>>184559954they dont. cheelai sits outside the house, pretending that she cant hear broly and leemo going at it inside
>>184559957Vic hugged some people wrong and now they’re angry.
>>184559085His reaction to black killing his family was kinda shit too
Why are the last 20 episodes of super so good bros?It almost made it worth enduring 100 episodes of pure shit
>>184559739>5% of stamina is enough to go beyond Super Saiyan fucking God Super SaiyanSo how many stamina do you need for SS? 0.001%
>>184554788>tfw bejita sama takes me out for ice cream after kissing my wife
>>184559992Jiren > Belmond > Beerus = Broly
Again, how did CHADhan lost to a frieza minion?
>>184559992Beerus is only omen level SO yes
So did toppo had the potential to become stronger than jiren?
>>184560208just imagine if a MMA champion spends a whole year procrastinating eating doritos in front of his television the whole day, meanwhile you have a rookie fighter that spent a entire year training as hard as he can, which one do you think it would win in a fight?
>>184560445i need to see super broly wearing this, inferior, outfit
>>184560178kiss your own damn wife
>>184560445Weaker than Cell
HITCHADS WHERE ARE YOU AT?
was it really necessary to animate the plot of the movies?
>>184560499I DON'T KNOW HOW
>>184560445>jobs to half dead SSs>jobs to ghosts>jobs to kids>jobs to the sea>jobs to the audience>"chad"OG Broly a shit.
>>184560445Chads here to make muh anti-bulge spics seethe
Post a better DB fighting themehttps://youtu.be/xiGoDcaVny0
>>184560515Getting one shotted by hatsu
>>184560445ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?
was it really that hard to give trunks some kind of SSblue transformation?
>>184560612LIKE THIS CLOWN
>>184560651Prove it without using the stupid director headcanon
>>184560511Did Cell get Zeno ki without me knowing it?
>>184560730Movies are not canon
>>184560782Feats > statementsIf toriyama claimed zamasu was stronger than whis everyone would cAll him a retard
>>184560624>bandwagoner OG fans have the maturity to enjoy both
>>184560858Shin in both manga and anime said vegito blue was stronger than beerus, stop with this shit now
You have been transported to the DB universe However the catch is. You are now a woman and have to choose one of the male characters to marry.Who do you choose?
someone post pics of FighterZ Jiren pls
>>184560917>y-you just don't have the maturity to enjoy that bland and shitty edgy piece of shit, you should love him if you think other version of him is okay!
Broly made Cheelai into a Gothic Loli. Love it.
>>184561096Not a movie
>>184561289Ugly goblina de muerte
>>184561059I gather the dragonballs to revert to a fit version of my original body, then fuck Pan
>>184561329that would be pic related
>>184560858Word of god>everything else>muh featsDiscarded. You have no arguments, therefore you lose. Keep quiet.>>184561096>might be stronger than Broly>retardkuConcession accepted.
>>184561336She is 2 years old
>>184561359That is clearly an ape.
>>184561368Canon Pan, not Supershit Pan.
>>184561368What, it's not like Gohan will do anything.
>>184561431He's the strongest unfused Saiyan so
>>184561336But who do you marry anon?
>>184561459"hE'S DA STRrONkKKeEST unFUUUSeD SAiyHAN sO"
>>184561459Not even close.
>>184561511"hIs WIFE is cuTe sO"Chadku wins again!
>>184561530Not an argument.
>>184561528You didn't refute my original point that Gohan wouldn't do anything if you fucked his daughter, so I accept your concession, spic.
>>184561568>moving the goalpostsStrongest unfused Saiyan, cope.
>>184561548Love how Goku seemed to be totally okay about his son having a boyfriend.
>>184561604>Strongest unfused SaiyanGoku
>>184561560There is no argument. Goku, Vegeta, and Broly are all stronger.
>>184561726Series facts and scaling disagree with you.
>>184561604>Strongest unfused Saiyan>>184561686Not an argument.
>>184561059Frieza Frieza FreizaNow I get to have his babies and be a mommy! Yay!
>>184561743Prove it. Back up your argument. The only evidence you have is a statement made 20 years ago which has been retconned.
>>184561748man the CGI auras look super ugly
>>184561336Shenron and and Porunga and the Super Dragon don’t work for you because they are banned so you can revert the wish. Your a girl forever. Now get busy with your man of choice
>>184561748>still no argument>non-canon animeConcession accepted.>>184561780>Kefla is stated to be the strongest in the ToP>Goku was going all-out against Jiren (minus UI)>According to Vados this means Kefla>Suppressed Jiren>CSSB Goku>Gohan=/>KeflaCope.
>>184561743No, it doesn't.
>>184561806No way, discord tranny.
>>184561850See >>184561839 and cope.
>>184561865Holy shit, Gohanfags are actually retarded.
>>184561890>literally no arguments or refutation against actual factsI guess you concede.
>>184561839Where's MUI Goku on this list?
>>184561944UI/MUI don't count because Goku can't use them at will, for all intents and purposes they don't exist in a scaling debate.
Post characters that are stronger and more relevant than Gohan.
>>184560040Add GOD zamasu to the club
>>184561748Man, that shit is awful.
Beerus and Whis
>>184561895why is white hair so patrician?
>>184561059Tien, he's gay and would never try to fuck me.
>>184562114But white hair is pleb tier.
Manga leaks when?
>>184562147>Cheelai>Vados>Cus>Marcarita>TowaNah, it's god tier.
>failhanWeaker than Toppo.Weaker than Jiren.Weaker than Goku.Weaker than Vegeta.Weaker than untransformed Broly.Probably weaker than Kefla if Kale and Caulifla fused again now (since they actually move their ass and get stronger, unlike kekhan).
>>184562177Your headcanon isn't factual, Pedro.
>>184561748Why is Jobren so small, isn't this his FP?
>Anti-Gohanspics presented with logical, factual scaling>Go entirely silentBTFO as usual.
>>184561761I wanna be a woman too ._.It hurts my soul that I wasn’t.
>>184562217A week from now
>>184562283Cheelaifags are cancer
>he deleted his postWhat a fucking retard.
>>184561839>>Kefla is stated to be the strongest in the ToP>>Goku was going all-out against Jiren (minus UI)>>According to Vados this means Kefla>Suppressed Jiren>CSSB Goku>>Gohan=/>KeflaConcession accepted
>>184562248Yet Gohan is the one with more potential, just give him relevance and training and he will be the strongest again.
>>184562177I have yet to hear and actual logical argument nor any facts.Fact: Gohan is equal to KeflaFact: Jiren is stronger than KeflaFact: Goku is stronger than JirenAssociative fact: Goku is stronger than Jiren.>Goku can't go Ultra Instinct again!Nice headcanon, faggot. He nearly tapped into it in Super Broly. >End of ZDragonball gets retconned all the time. The only facts are the LATEST things said by Toriyama or in the manga/movies written by him.
>>184562325>not a single argumentCope.
>>184562346>headcanon: the postPathetic.
>>184561895Why can't jobren do things like this?
>>184561839>Kefla is stated to be the strongest in the ToPYou mean "Vados said she might be the strongest in the ToP and was proven wrong when the fusion ended up trash because Caulifla is a weak ass", right?
>>184562325But cssb is not goku strongest form
>>184562376>logical deductions based on evidence is headcanonThis is you, spic.
You can't explain Gohan's appeal without resorting to memespeak.
>>184562398>proven wrongNice headcanon.>>184562425>ad hominemPost discarded. Cope.
>>184556088Why the fuck do i find this shit funny
>>184562343>Gohan>more potentialBroly surpassed the GoDs in a day. And Toriyama said Trunks and Goten are tailless super prodigies with the biggest potential of all the earth saiyans, meaning Shithan's potential jobbed not only to Broly but also to Goten. No wonder why Goten was the one appearing in the movie and not his failure of brother
>>184562398She saw jiren beat goku with one hand.I dont see how Kefla being as strong as gohan proves what vados thinks wrong unless you go into the debate with the fallacious assumption that gohan can't be stronger than blue goku.
Only 6 days left until we get early spoilers for El Cabron Demoniaco (and possibly Vegeta jobbing to him)
>>184557163Sorry no interferring allowed
Champa freed the goat.
Bejita-sama, it's foolish for us to fight. We need to team up and kiss my wife together! Now then, I have a senzu, we can split it and head over there now with my instant transmission.
>>184562459>jobs to Gohan>Gohan said to be weaker than SSB Goku>and both are weaker than Jiren>not proven wrong>and no argument for Vados never stating Kefla was the strongestYou lost.>>184562525>beat with one handYou mean "push", "push with one hand". And yes, Vados thought Kale's fusion could end up being stronger than that. She was proven wrong. Your point?>assumptionIt's not an assumption when the manga says so, jobhantard, Gohan could have been stronger than SSB Goku if he trained all time, but he didn't.
>>184561059Zeno or Whis
How would Vegeta and agony react if Goten or Trunks said they wanted to be a girl?
If that fool Kakarotto thinks that I'm going to kiss his sow of a wife, he's got another thing coming!
>>184562595>She was proven wrongShe said Kefla might be unmathced, meaning Vados assumed she was more impressive than supressed Jiren but didn't know Jiren's or Gohan's full power.She saw Hit and Goku get bullied and still believed Kefla was above that just by seeing her stomp the pride trooper.>the manga says so,Krillin can't sense god ki.
Alright Bejita-sama, here you g- WAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!!!!
Reminder Gohan can do this.
>>184562573>Champa is so fucking fat he’s lost his neck and looks like his head is on backwards
>>184563177>pubes standing upIs this canon?
>>184563236super isnt cannon
>>184563177>>184563236>super saiyan pubes
KNEEL, dogs. Your superior master commands you.
Cope before the master of concession.
Concede to your kennel, masters. Your pet copes you. CONCESS.
Kennel to your concession, master. Your command copes you.
Can I get a quick rundown on Dogposting?
>>184562898No bully, he doesn't deserve it.
>>184563894ENOUGH of your pointless meandering, dog. Long has it been written that the masters of such trifling and inferior creatures adequately express their legendary superiority and infinite wisdom in a manner consistent with said creatures' transgressions. And lo, what VILE and contumacious transgressions thy canid beasts have visited upon the superior and godlike, most benevolent masters! Return AT ONCE, pet, to your kennel, wherein all good and obedient beasts of burden reside until commanded otherwise by their infinitely superior and merciful, yet stern and unyielding masters. Heed well my words, pet, and know your place. You have been commanded. Obey, or face swift and true retribution at the hands of your godlike master. OBEY, dog!
>>184564361>ENOUGH of your pointless meandering, dog. Long has it been written that the masters of such trifling and inferior creatures adequately express their legendary superiority and infinite wisdom in a manner consistent with said creatures' transgressions. And lo, what VILE and contumacious transgressions thy canid beasts have visited upon the superior and godlike, most benevolent masters! Return AT ONCE, pet, to your kennel, wherein all good and obedient beasts of burden reside until commanded otherwise by their infinitely superior and merciful, yet stern and unyielding masters. Heed well my words, pet, and know your place. You have been commanded. Obey, or face swift and true retribution at the hands of your godlike master. OBEY, dog!
>>184564375Your contumacious and transient stupidity and noisome babbling wears upon the ears of your good master, pet. Return to your kennel posthaste; therein you will find others of your brethren, residing in shameful perpetuity in everlasting reminder of their grievous sins as all good and obedient pets must. Reflect upon your noxious and egregious transgressions, dog, and know despair. Await your master's command, and toil until such time is visited upon you with nary a complaint or remonstration. Heretofore has your master turned a blind eye to your tomfoolery, but no longer. Further disobedience will be met thusly with swift and terrible wrath. Hear mine words, dog. Obey and mayhap one day shall you earn your master's pardon. Until such time, be silent as the grave, and obedient as all hounds must. Your master commands you.
>>184564394>Your contumacious and transient stupidity and noisome babbling wears upon the ears of your good master, pet. Return to your kennel posthaste; therein you will find others of your brethren, residing in shameful perpetuity in everlasting reminder of their grievous sins as all good and obedient pets must. Reflect upon your noxious and egregious transgressions, dog, and know despair. Await your master's command, and toil until such time is visited upon you with nary a complaint or remonstration. Heretofore has your master turned a blind eye to your tomfoolery, but no longer. Further disobedience will be met thusly with swift and terrible wrath. Hear mine words, dog. Obey and mayhap one day shall you earn your master's pardon. Until such time, be silent as the grave, and obedient as all hounds must. Your master commands you.
>>184564418Hark, for such grandiosity cannot be abated without due tribulation by the correct manner of courtly procedure. You stake such claims, most excruciating in your bothersome and tepid incantations, spewing your innocuous yet somewhat frustrating drivel into the stratosphere of intellectual debate. You see, only the more intelligent beings, of which I’m afraid the toils and tribulations of scientific merit have proven, are capable of broaching such esoteric debate of anime in a dignified and cognitive dimension. Alas, it seems the contumacious dogs cannot hope to reach these swirling miasmas of turgid thoughts and scintillating discussion, and so must, be their inferior nature, loudly and extravagantly emit their brainless and unwanted thoughts into a higher dimension of debate. Well, 'tis thine lucky day, dog, as the gods of Olympus high have taken notice of your perfidious and thoughtless ramblings. You have managed to irk them somewhat in your crusade of misinformed drivel, which you propel into a temple to the mind, such a place beyond your understanding, and yet sullied by your foul words. Yes, we have taken notice, and we say silence. Silence, dog, and worship your gods!
>>184557107In the end it's all about compatibilityThat's why Kefla is the strongest fusion of all universes
>>184558612>2019>jobkufags still alivelmao
>>184564580What's inspect element, dog.
>>184564684a miserable little pile of secrets
>>184556613Herms actually commented on how that description is taking from GT promotional materialIt's not canon at all
>such a loser that your father expects to be able to just hand over your girlfriendOH NO NO NO NOJOBHAN LOSES AGAIN
>>184564775He thinks the same about Vegeta, also he probably wouldn't even mind handing over Chi-Chi.
>>184557675NopeThe manga says that the potara don't give you any power at all>dainzenshuu>canon
>>184564528>4 (You)sThanks fampai
>>184564855>approved by ToriyamaYou lose.
>>184564718Silence your yapping, pet, your master did not ask for your pointless lamentations, be silent and obedient like all good pets must.
>>184564738Herms is wrong.
>>184564930>gohanfag calling people pet>forgetting gohan's wife literally being goku's tool for old perverts
>>184564901Toriyama approved the creation of GT, doesn't make it canon
>>184565046nice false equivalence spicdog
>>184565046No he didn't.
>>184565064I accept your concession.
Vegeta is better than Beerus.
>>184565194Whatever you say Caulishitter.
>>184565299Hey now, I don't have taste THAT low.Gohan's way better than that gross stick.
Vegeta is the worst.
>>184565341i miss close quarters combat
That faggot Vic is finally G O N E
Yamcha is better than Beerus.
>430 posts>59 poster
>>184558852Potaras suck, see Trunks surpassing Vegetto, Vegetto became the biggest pile of trash in the history of anime.
>>184565760>see Trunks surpassing Vegettolol no, it wasn't even shown what the limit of his power wasstill useless though because they just defuse after a certain point, whereas Gogeta fucks shit up as much as he wants
>>184565393>I miss close quarters combatHere>>184561895>>184561950>>184562075>>184562283>>184563177
>>184565810OH NO, CHADLIN, GIVE ME BACK MY TAIL
GOHAN IS BETTER THAN BROLY
>B-BEJITA SAMA, DON'T JUST SHOVE IT ALL IN A T ONCE
Audienceku (SSB) > Broly God > Gogeta (SSB) > nuBroly (FPSS)
>>184566112Fuck off Joblytard
These fucking threads
Gohan is the biggest.
>>184560955> shin was nervous af about pui pui fighting vegeta> gowazu claimed ssj goku was God of Destruction levelTL;DR Kais don't know shit about powerscaling
>>184566301Nah.>>184566323Cry more, Pedro.
>>184566393>smaller than his father's at the same ageUMMM GAYHANFAGS? CARE TO EXPLAIN THIS ONE?
I hope I find love one day
>>184566562Leave Kuririn alone.
>>184566393we've never seen goku at that age. in fact goku at the beginning was already older than "teen" gohan
>>184566755i always thought this guy was creepy. fucking pedo faggot
>>184566597>one is responsible for the size of his own penis >penis size determines one's sexual orientation The absolute state of Vegetafags.
>>184566894But everyone's seen Kid Goku naked by now
>>184554788Why does it seem like DB fans hate their own franchise more than anyone else
>>184567070>largeI guess we know gayjay is a dicklet
>>184566114This Broly would be a good fusion partner for NuBroly on Pedroes, but they will probably use the SS4 Broly instead.
>Lemo: how do you do fellow kids?
>>184567095I hate DBS.
>>184567095Anti waifufags who want edge back.Loud minority
why do saiyans have such small penises and testicles?
How come people don’t take Beerus seriously? I mean yea he is astonished by Goku’s power ups but it doesn’t really mean he’s fearful that he’s been surpassed. We haven’t seen him go all out yet. To me, I still see Beerus as this giant mountain that Goku and Vegeta have yet to climb
>>184567710I don't care for Beerus.
How disappointed was Vegeta that his Trunks didn't grow up to be anything like the Future Trunks he grew to respect?
>>184565447>non-canon Faghan shit
>>184567710Beerus is irrelevant. He has no agency as a character. His strength is unimportant because he doesn't ever do anything.
I wanna be a female frost demon
>>184567841I want to fuck him so bad.
>>184559031Looks horrible.>>184559082Nice and clean.
>>184567687So they can date their granddaughters in the future
>>184566360Worst threads on /a/
>>184566393Why is it hard?
>>184568463Pan is for Kefla
>>184568505Because of you. Are you going to take responsibility?
>>184568318>I want to fuck him so bad.
>>184568471Now that you're here, it is.
>>184566755holy goddamn fucking shit!!
>6'0>handsome>light tan skin>great cook>/fit/>cool anime scarshow can other Dragon Ball males even compete?
>>184569034By having wives
>>184554788>Light Novel which Toriyama oversawDear lord have mercy on our wicked souls
>>184568022yet if he does something, like hakai Moro for example, people would bitch that there's no tension in DB anymore, so it's a lose/lose scenario.
>>184569034By not living in a mud hut in the middle of the desert
Broly is stronger than UI Goku right?
>>184569894ui isnt a powerup, so yes
>>184569918UI is a powerupJiren didn’t take damage until UI
>>184569918>>184569960Why didnt Goku go UI in the movie then
>>184569034yamcha is unironically my favorite character. no joke
>>184569894Gogeta isn't stronger than UI, let alone Broly.The only characters confirmed to be stronger than UI are the the angels and Jiren.
>>184558905Yes, you picked a bad scene and it still looks better than literally most of the fights in Super. Don't bother cherrypicking the one or two good fights from Super as a counterargument, becaise good looking scenes happen once every 50 episodes in Super.
>>184570204Keep telling yourself that.
>>184569034>>184570142He’s freizas good boy
>>184568277So I can breed with freiza
>>184570387He's gay, anon.
>>184570009the anime is retarded. its like in harry potter where dumbledore is calm and gentle but in the movie hes bum rushes harry and pins him against the wall while yelling in his face>>184570038what for? broly powers up the longer you fight him. so ui would stall him until he gets strong enough to overcome it on pure power alone. again, its NOT a powerup. theres only so much damage base form goku can inflict before he becomes ineffective. its a defensive technique
Toriyama's involvement in Super/Movies is overestimatedAll he does is design 4 or 5 characters, say basic stuff about them and leave full freedom to Toei/Toyo for the rest.ToP example : He only designed Jiren,Toppo and Dyspo.He designed Caulifla as an answer to Toei designing Kale. He didn't even tell Toei stuff about characters.Toei planned for Jiren to be a justice fanatic but Toriyama said he doesn't speak much so Toppo got the justice fanatic personalityDyspo's cocky attitude was also made by Toei.And some guys here are arguing Toriyama actually read that freakin novelization of Broly movie to confirm Broly is > Jiren. Laffin
>>184568463When I watched GT as a kid I genuinely trough they had good romantic chemistry even if a new they were related.
>>184570431Well then I’ll be his bitch then...
>>184570576He's a sub.
>>184570645Fine I’ll be yamchaSo long as he still bosses me about
it's not fair
>>184570546>Toriyama's involvement in Super/Movies is overestimatedincorrect. hes is NOT involved with the anime, but hes heavily involved in every chapter of the manga. because youre a dismissive jackass, you assume this means glancing at the book and giving the go ahead. this is wrong. he gets deep in there and he rewrites dialogue, redraws characters, changes shit like expressions to better convey personality traits.when people say the manga is canon, its not a meme. he truly was involved every step of the way. unlike the anime that does its own thing and he hates it. its even in this very thread where its quoted that he dislikes the anime.the image is an example. theres a whole lot more of these interviews with before and after caps of the manga
>>184570823I understand your pain, anon.
>>184569034It's a shame Toriyama had to make some of the humans so tall and handsome but leave them in the dust due to Saiyan wankery.>>184570142Underrated outfit.
Urgh...agh! P-please, Lord Broly-Dono.... spare me, SPARE ME! AAAAAAAAAA
a deals a deal /a/. youve gotta suck his nipples
>>184570858>Being this much of an agenda pushing liar shillWhat has to be wrong with someone to write all this trash.