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ITT: Canonically bicurious characters.
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Illya is only interested in Shirou's bone sword
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>>183262114
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>>183262114
They’re all pretty!!

I love animes!!!!
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>>183262114
Illya is the only one who hasn't shown any interest towards men.
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>>183262114
Illya should have gotten a route instead of Sakura
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>>183262805
>Illya is the only one who hasn't shown any interest towards men.
wrong
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>>183263306
[citation needed]
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>>183263458
She was meant to have been one of the heroines with her ero scenes, but they got scrapped. She still is overtly into Shirou, but it's generally played as older sister act.

There likely are scenes that break that, but I honestly can't think of a pretty obvious one. The closest I can think of would be ones in HA, especially one in pool and her wanting to go on a date with Shirou, but it'd need someone to verify that properly.
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>>183262805
It's heavily implied she has the hots for Shirou.
>https://youtu.be/7fcFyiWrMjc
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>>183264085
That FHA scene on your pic only proves my point.
Nasu specifically asked Takeuchi to draw Shirou and Illya as siblings on that CG. Illya wanted a family, not a dick.
The fact is, Illya has never even thought about fucking Shirou.
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>>183264471
It's a completely innocent scene. Just siblings getting along.
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>>183264485
The picture was meant more as a on-topic joke. The two scenes I refered to in my post would be more apropriate situation that could be interpreted as her having hots for Shirou.

While as far as I recall you can interpret their relationship as pure family relationship her blushing to Shirou telling her that her swimsuit blew him away the most and her being dissapointed when the date he suggested was with Sakura instead of her would seem to me that she thought of him at least at times more than just a brother.

Sure, it was in F/HA and it was mostly played to be humorous, but I don't think interpreting it that way is nonsensical.
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>>183264720
As far as I'm concerned, Illya acts exactly like a typical brocon sister without any incest subtext. That archetype is extremely popular in Japanese media, it's nothing unusual.
Wake me up when she actually fucks Shirou like Akiha did.
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>>183265133
Well, it wouldn't really even be an incest to begin with. As I wrote there were multiple points at in which lews/ero scenes were planned for Ilya, but they were then scapped, probably mainly because her route got fused with Sakura.

While you might say that it doesn't matter and that she's actually meant to only have only platonic feelings towards Shirou, I am trying to argue that the intention and space was planted in her character and at least some scenes and that what the deciding factor is how you want to interpret them. Unless you want to argue further against the examples I have provided then I think that the argument has been settled. I mean your retort is along the lines of "To me it seemed more like brocon without incest intentions", which is fine and doesn't really contradict what I'm trying to say, unless you want to make clear that the alternative absolutely doesn't make sense.
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rin looks like she's not wearing underwear
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>>183265403
Maybe, maybe not.
FSN was also supposed to be an otome game. A lot of ideas had been scarped.
The fact is, it has never been stated that Illya wants to fuck Shirou.
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>>183262114
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>>183262762
AND MANGA
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>>183265959
Not overtly, no. At least as far as I recall. Doesn't still mean that's not the case.
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>>183266027
It's just dumb shipping but whatever.
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>>183265959
We ignoring that one Taiga Dojo where she's literally absent because she's raping Shirou off-screen now?
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>>183266213
I mean, maybe. But to me it could go slightly deeper about how kind of serious and, how would I put it, R rated do you consider the story to be, especially after the release of Réalta Nua. While I'm not necessarily claiming that thinking that Illya wants to fuck Shirou makes the VN more grim/gritty or mature, if you think that she wants his dick would seem to suggest that you take the VN way more serious in that sort of fashion or however person want to take it. It's just kind of how you relate to the story by thinking whether Ilya wanting to fuck Shirou is fitting or not.
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>>183264574
>She wants to snuggle with him
>she wants to bathe with him
>She wants to date him
>She wants him to love her
>She definitely wants to have sex with him

Anon this is some grade-A denial
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>>183266769
>She definitely wants to have sex with him
Nice fanfic.
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>>183266851
>She's literally depressed because her H-scene after Shirou becomes her doll was cut
Thanks! It's called the VN.
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>>183266961
>pic relevant
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>>183264574
Trash wormslut doesnt deserve to be saved. Rhino and Seibaka imare overrated.
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>>183267013
No
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>>183267167
Yeah, they're full on gay
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>>183267194
Is it gay if it's yourself?
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>>183266961
>>183266999
>>183267019
So all you have are two fourth wall breaking jokes about something that never happened.
While Illya acts nothing like that during two long ass VNs.
You're not convincing at all.
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>>183267257
Akane is Rikka
>western meme theory
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>>183267311
Holy shit are you trolling right now? Hollow Ataraxia is also pretty obvious about Ilya's crush on Shirou. Nasu tried to tone it down, but the guest writers sure didn't considering how much she flirts and asks to bath with him. Not to mention the dinner date, and swimsuit scene.
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>>183267399
What's debatable about this is if she's even bi-curious. Since this Ilya isn't the same as Prisma Illya. (Even if let's face it, she probably would've gone for Saber too if she could. Everyone's attracted to Saber.)
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>>183267399
It's nothing out of ordinary for a sister. Calm down your shipping fantasies.
Illya has never tried to fuck Shirou simply because she didn't want to. And she could have easily do it.
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So, Nasu is fine with penis worm rape, dumb shit like fucking to gain back stamina and magic and retarded threesome/rape in a shack as a monster if hunting them down but he draws the line at incest lolicon sex?

He's fine with incest like rape when it's Shinji/Sakura but somehow because of IIiya's frame it's wrong and got cut?
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>>183262114
Is there more new ufotable Fate art?
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>>183267513
These aren't shipping fantasies though?

>It's nothing out of ordinary for a sister. Calm down your shipping fantasies.
Sure it is, when it's your 18 year old step-sister who has expressed interest in you.

You're right, she could have easily had sex with Shirou at anytime, but Nasu didn't want that. He however did write that Ilya does.
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>>183267529
nasu retconned most of this tho
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>>183262114
"Slut" is the technical term for characters like this.
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>>183268010
Nah, not all sluts are bicurious.
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>>183267669
Those are your fantasies because it was never stated that Illya sees Shirou as a romantic interest and wants to fuck him.
On the other hand, it was stated (like there >>183264485 and in the actual VN) that Illya and Shirou see each other as siblings.
Simple facts.
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Taiga Dojo is canon to the characters in VN, and definitely goes against what you're saying, but sure. 'Facts'.
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every women is a raging homosexual
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>>183268257
Epic meme my dude.
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>>183268392
>t. raging homosexual
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>>183266005
I LOVE JAPAN PERIOD
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>>183267529
the wormrape isn't portrayed as good and the character who does it gets annihilated, I wouldn't say Nasu is "fine with" it.
unless Rowling is okay with souls being chopped into pieces because she describes -that- in her books.
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That /u/ buff.
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>>183262114
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>>183262114
Lies and slander. They're all straight.
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>>183269099
False. They're both straight.
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>>183269143
medusa would like a word with you
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>>183269192
Saber is certainly more nuanced than just 'straight'.
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>Shirou starts crying after Ilya asks Taiga if she's jealous that Shirou hasn't bathed together with her
>Taiga starts acting strange, mentioning sponges to Shirou
>Shirou cries more

What the fuck did they mean by this
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>>183269301
Saber is clearly straight. It's why she had a thing for Merlin and Shirou.
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>>183269303
Also Shirou and Ilya are flirtatious as hell in this scene, Taiga even remarks on it. Fuck off with your 'shipping' bullshit, anon.
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>>183262114
The whole thing about Ilya being anything other that perfectly straight purely comes from Prisma, and even there it's entirely Yuribait that will never go anywhere because Ilya will never stop hungering for Onii-Chan's dick.
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>>183268880
The tea ceremonies!
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>>183269511
I think what you're trying to say is "this franchise is meaningless commercialized fapfest garbage and an insult to the intelligent mind"
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>>183267529
>he draws the line at incest lolicon sex?
Clearly not. It's NBR, plus Akiha with Shiki. Azaka isn't NBR and she straight up wants Mikiya.
>somehow because of IIiya's frame it's wrong and got cut?
Len had H content in KT, so clearly that's not it either.
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>>183262114
Possibly Sayaka Miki.
Goes from loving a boy to outright realizing she dodged a bullet then proceeds to have an indirect kissu and interlocks fingers with a hot red-head whom she missed while she was dead.
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>>183269442
>Sitting in his lap
>about to feed him pears
>alerts the entire Emiya household

Oh fuck anon they're at it again.

Hollow was a fucking gold mine I tell you.
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>>183268257
No, they are straight. Sometimes a straight girl can have sex with another girl because of the following reasons: it's normal; it's a phase; she likes guys but she loves that special girl. She's still straight though.

t. yagakimi watcher
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>>183269999
Quints of truth.
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>>183269999
>do gay shit
>"i'm straight!?
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>>183267330
This.
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>>183269303
Shirou grabbed Taiga's pussy in the bath because he thought it was the sponge.
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>>183269442
Perfectly normal behavior for a brocon sister.
Not everything is about sex. You would know if you weren't a horny teenager.
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>>183269999
Yurishitters btfo.
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>>183271366
>Perfectly normal behavior for a brocon sister.
>Not everything is about sex. You would know if you weren't a horny teenager.
Listen anons, its not nice to say mean things to little anon here just because he's different. He might need special attention but that doesnt mean he's bad. Now, we all need to speak slowly and clearly so that little anon can understand. Fate is an eroge. Come on little anon, you can do it. Lets say it together. Fate is an...
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>>183271539
Then show me some h-scene with Illya.
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>>183271539
>>183271366
I'm more confused by what anon thinks a brocon is now if wanting sex isn't a part of being one
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>>183271593
Silly anon, we cant have h-scenes for characters with no routes. Its fine, maybe you should stay after class and review the materials again. All the innuendo and flirting is covered under chapter 10: I want to keep my brothers head as a toy and the i want to kiss my brother to wake him up reference material, carnival phantasm. Next week we will have a test on why characters that arent interested in each other dont sexually flirt with each other. I advise you to read through the footnotes as well. Remember anon, "I dont need a route, cause everyone already loves me."
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>>183272141
>everyone already loves me
>lost to Lancer of all people in the latest popularity poll at the time
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>>183272206
Isn't it sad Ilya bros

Well said anon
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>>183267513
>it looks like a duck
>it smells like a duck
>it makes noises like a duck
>it's clearly an alien lifeform that has taken the form of a duck
Don't be retarded anon
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>>183268880
>I LOVE JAPAN PERIOD
gross
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>>183267529
I'm pretty sure he doesn't like writing loli sex scenes, he may even resent it considering Takeuchi made him throw out Fate Prototype to make another eroge.
>>183269672
The writing for Len's scenes were awful even by Nasu's standards, and was filled with moralfag stuff like "I can't believe I'm actually about to have sex with a kid... oh wait, it's not though!"
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>>183272206
As expected of the tohsaka head, I have to give congratulatory praise to you for starring in your own anime series, manga, and game events with merchandising centred around you. Oh wait, that's only me. Ohohoho, it seems dogs truly do bark harder than they bite. But, it can't be helped that uneducated old fat male commoners regard and place such simple creatures so highly for doing unrefined tricks for treats.
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>>183272206
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>>183262762
based
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/u/ gets btfo yet again
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>>183264471
>>>implied
One bad end in Stay/Night outright states that she wants to fuck him silly, "implied" implies that it's not absolutely fucking clear that she has the hots for him.

>>183264574
What?
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>>183269143
OP is two-thirds wrong, and you're one-third wrong.

That having been said, you are really fucking blind if you can't tell that Rin can at least get off to girls.
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>>183269324
>Merlin
Except no? It's been put on record that Shirou is the only person in existence that she became interested in. Somehow.
Though she does genuinely care for Merlin, which is rare in and of itself because almost everyone hates Merlin. It's even more heartwarming that Merlin genuinely cares back, when he's stated to outright lack true emotions.
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>>183262914
Ayako should have gotten a route instead of Sakura
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>>183269999
That's fucking bullshi-
>those digits
/u/ absolutely BTFO, gays have no place here anymore
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>>183272206
>lost to Lancer of all people
You seem to be implying that Cu isn't at least a top 5 character for the franchise. Illya is a treasure, but Cu is fucking god-tier.
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>>183272985
He was in 6th place, though.
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>>183272870
Retconned. Rin is 100% straight.
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>>183272985
>>183273033
You two are arguing about different things.
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Ayano is spaghetti, straight until wet.
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What the fuck, did Ilya even drink in this scene!?
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>>183273130
How?
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My waifu since she seems interested in wanting to rape lolis.
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>>183262114
Oh god, why is Rin so ugly. You can tell Saber and Illya were drawn by a different artist in this one
Also Rin isn't "bi", any "lesbian" scene in TM works is just a forced fanservice. Saber is Shiro/foodsexual and Prism Illya Illya is not even the same character as the FSN one.
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>>183272941
I'd say Sakura is a shit, but every main character in the VN is a shit, apart from Gilgamesh and Illya
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I want to fuck Illya
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>>183269192
LITERALLY EATS HER OUT WHILE SHIRO FUCKS HER
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>>183262114
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>>183273444
>Gilgamesh
He's not a main character and Kotomine is way better written than FSN Gilgamesh.
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>>183273485
That sounds straight to me.
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>>183273485
>WHILE SHIRO FUCKS HER
You see, the only reason Rin and Saber are suddenly bi in that scene is for you to jack off to it. Rin makes some comments about Saber being beautiful in other, non-h scenes but that's a normal thing for a woman.
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>>183262114
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>>183272803
BALEEN THIS
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>>183262114
Not OP, because he's just a massive faggot.
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>>183262914
>No Illya, Sakura, Tohsaka, Saber, Rider, Castah, EMIYA harem.
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>>183264485
>Illya has never even thought about fucking Shirou.
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>>183267019
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>>183273854
>Castah
Nah
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>>183269672
Anon has a point. If they did H scenes with Len, why not Illya?
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>>183273854
>No Illya, Sakura, Tohsaka, Saber, Rider, Castah, EMIYA harem.

I like this idea, but Caster's happy with Kuzuki
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>>183269442
She did have a shortened growth time or something like that, so I don't see why she wouldn't have feelings like that.
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>>183272206
>fucks old men for money
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>>183273854
>forgetting about Kotomine even though Shiro says he likes him in HF
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>>183273656
god that pic is old.
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>>183273928
Why not?
Castah a qt.

>>183274005
Shit I did forget Kotomine.
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>>183272206
Lancer got his FGO fujoshi popularity boost and he's a bro that everyone likes
Rin gets some slutty rehashes that are only good for fapping
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>>183274054
She's an insane murderer.
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>>183274063
We're talking about the old 2006 one that CP would have gone with.
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>>183274094
>the original yandere
And? That makes my penis harder.
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>>183274026
Don't fix what ain't broken, anon.
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>>183264485
>Illya wanted a family, not a dick.
What makes you think that she doesn't want both?
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>>183274165
>the original yandere
That'd be any number of Greek goddesses well before Medea. Probably plenty of pre-Greek goddesses too.
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the dog is female too
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>>183274368
Probably right there. Greek myth was wack ay. Reading the odyssey (again?) and they were really strange with their myths.
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>>183274285
Old uguu haruhi best haruhi.
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>>183274285
What kind of servant would Haruhi be?
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>>183274401
>the dog is female too
What a bitch.
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>>183274830
Saver.
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>>183272528
You what, Len's scenes are the best ones in all of Tsukihime, especially the footjob one. Mind you it's not a high bar when competition has shit like supress Roa in ass Ciel or boring mana trasfers maids.
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>>183262114
>bicurious
Is this another SJW word?
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>>183275000
Those digits just barely save that pun.
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>>183275971
USO DA.
IT WAS A GOOD PUN.
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>>183267013
Rikka has a boyfriend.
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>>183277896
For the moment
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>>183275971
What are these two girls doing?
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>>183269999
Quads of denial.
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>>183269624
J-ROCK!
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>>183268411
>10/10 rekt
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>>183274830
Endless.
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>>183262166
she literally jumped on loli maid so no she loves all things
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>>183269324
Yeah and fucked women
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>>183282601
C'mon, it's impossible to forget your first kiss, anon
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pretty sure
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>>183262114
Am I the only one who thinks Illya's height here seems very very wrong. She's as tall as Saber in this pic. She was never this tall in the VNs, manga, anime or anywhere.
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>>183269999
“I mean I know I let another woman clap cunts with me but its not gay because I mostly like men”
If you like pussy youre fucking gay
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>>183269999
Fuck off, het-senpai.
No one likes you.
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>>183283531
Bi*
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>>183262114
Basically everyone from GK
incluiding the author
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>>183272141
>Silly anon, we cant have h-scenes for characters with no routes
Factually untrue. Raider got a sex scene in FHA. Illya didn't. Because she isn't a degenerate and doesn't want to fuck her brother.
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>>183274321
Because there's no reason to think that Illya wants to fuck Shirou.
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>>183284225
The writer or the illustrator?
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>>183271616
Watch more anime and read more manga. Especially those not aimed at otaku. Clingy sisters are a common trope.
>>183272349
Except it's a swan.
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>>183273415
>any "lesbian" scene in TM works is just a forced fanservice
They really are, but they're still part of the character.
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>>183270081
Every trap lover ever
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>>183286119
No
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>>183269130
what the fuck Squealer, I believed in you
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>>183283341
>Prisma Ilya
>canon
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>>183267529
He just very sensitive like Nobuhiro Watsuki. These people never admit what they truly love
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>>183269999
Yurifaggots absolutely BTFO
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>>183283530
She's standing on stairs.
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>>183287705
>Prisma Illya is the Illya route tee hee
>.t Mushroom
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