Why is this show so polarizing? I'm not even talking about the rape scene, but the fact that people either really like the show or think it's absolutely abhorrent. Half the people praises the main protagonist while the other half thinks he's the most bland and one-dimensional character in history. Even my friends are split when it comes to goblin slayer. One thinks that it's an enjoyable show that should be treated like a D&D game with one very autistic player, while the second one thinks that it's a garbage reeking of wish-fulfillment.So, who's more in the right?
>>183171650I haven't seen this, but does this actually show rape of any kind? I read that the "rape" scene was not actually shown offscreen. I'm a boomer who learned about tits while watching Ninja Scroll but honestlyI think you zoomers do protest too fucking much
>>183171650>Big Brother Cloth Forest Slayer
Goblin Slayer slays goblins and collects sexy party members. The show is simple and boring.
>>183171650>why do a bunch of people get butthurt over a generic show?>i'm not even talking about the rapeyes you are.
>>183171650I don't know.
>>183171650Worst thing about the show is how pathetic it is as entertainment.The MC is treated as some kind of sexy alpha male by all the girls. The most sad, pathetic self insert I can think of, honestly. So low effort. It would have been more interesting if he was actually lonely and ignored by most people, as anyone who acted like him in real life would be.
>>183171972So you're into sexy Dwarves huh?
>>183172048This is objectively true. Girls don't really fawn over some dude with a sexy voice wearing armor without ever showing his face, only guys do that.
I thought it was alright, overall I enjoyed it but it was ultimately nothing special. I'm not into watersports but I found pisstress hot for some reason.
>>183171650It got mainstream and thus overrated, so as usual people who find it flawed have the kneejerk reaction of calling it the worst shit ever.
>>183172195I can't tell if this post is ironic.
>>183171650>Why is this show so polarizing?You're already wrong.I found the few chapters I read interesting, but ultimately dull when the world didn't remain consistent and became nothing but references to mute protagonist who needed to talk but doesn't.It became a manga/anime of cute girls getting panty shots during their action shots while a faceless hero did the real killing. Without any plot. It became boring.>either really like the show>or think it's absolutely abhorrentThat's where you're already wrong. It's just another shounen gore. I stopped caring.
I thought it was exactly okay.It was entertaining enough but didn't do anything special.If they do another season I'll probably watch it, but have no intentions of rewatching any of it.
>>183171650Me, of course
>>183172195>>183172048I find him to be pretty hot
>>183171650The bigger question is, why do you care? People are always going to have opinions on things, and if you need an army of upvotes to decide if you like something you might just have no taste to begin with.
>>183171650No, OP.It's polarizing because it's an original adaptation of the light novel, not the manga that's 10x better than what we got.
>when the trees start speaking gob
>>183172888Both the manga and anime is rape bait edgy garbage.
>>183171650Any anime that refuses to give characters names and instead calls them stupid shit like Priestess or Goblin Slayer is impossible to take seriously. If the manga won't even name their characters why should I waste my time on its shit story?
>>183171650>people really like itThose are the people that actually read it>it's absolutely horribleThose are the contrarians that don't really watch or read anything and just hate whatever is popular
>>183173266Rape is beautiful. It has a diverse range of emotions and feelings that feel impactful. Shame, pleasure, sorrow, pain, torture, happiness, and anger.
>>183173510Go rape a real woman please, you fags always spout this shit but never leave your basements. And good god, there are a large amount of women who need a good raping.
>>183171650I thought the show was okay, nothing special and not enough goblin slaying. Then I read the manga and LN's and holy shit I loved them, the anime is fucking trash
>>183171650Muslims hate it, because the goblins are a caricature of Muslims. Everyone else is able to just enjoy it for what it is.
>>183172048>self insertSeriously? The self insert is the typical japanese or student getting girls way out of his league. From last season you can easily say Kirito, the slime guy and the literally me guy. But Goblin Slayer is:A strong and high ranked adventurer.Has a /fit/ bodyCanonically handsome.Yeah he is kinda insane but you can't really tell that any of the girls are out his league.
>>183173634Rape is art, I'm sorry you don't understand the true value and beauty of rape.
>>183172048But he is? Let´s see the characters that like GS and why:Priestess-Saved from rapeCowGirl- Childhood friendGuild Girl - Thinks of him as a hero of the lost causesHEA- Does not really likes him until he saves her ass and beats a fucking ogre by himself.Sword Maiden - Almost the same as Guild girlDwarf and dino - Recognize him as a good strategist and party leader.Pretty much everyone else has a neutral to bad oppinion of him, from fellow adventurers that think he is weird and gives them bad reputation to CG uncle who actually thinks he is insane.
>>183173356>Those are the contrarians that watched/read more than a couple manga/anime and can recognize when a show is shitFTFYGoblin Slayer is objectively a shit show with little to no redeeming qualities.
>>183174113Me too. In my town, they call me buckshot jones, because I look like harrison ford and I spray a holy grail.
>>183171650Because it's a fucking mess, it doesn't know what it wants to be a fun moe, a gritty fantasy or a fucking hentai.The only good thing about it is turning the horny goblins into Apu's
>>183171650edge as a source of entertainment. just like madoka and made in abyss. wows teens, adults have no idea what's going on.
>>183174286>M-manga/LN is way better!No they're not. They're shit too.
>>183171972>sexy dwarf>sexy lizardbrooh yes
>>183173510Correct about rape is beautiful but your versions of beating and maiming the raped is barbaric nigger tier since it ruins their value of being raped in the first place.Real Rape needs to break them into your possession by the power of cock, domination and roughness.
>>183174450>he's not into furry and midget pornI pity you
>>183174399If you don't like anything mildly edgy and makes you overreact over it, why do you even watch anime if you can't handle fiction?
She did nothing wrong
>>183174404>No they're not. They're shit too.You haven't even read the LN. Or the original 2chan story either.
>>183171650As much as I like the series, I can't really say those who don't are in the wrong. From the criticisms I've seen being thrown around, it all boils down to one thing: expectations. Maybe it's from words of mouth, from taking a glimpse at the first chapter or episode, or maybe some reviewers they regularly follow. It all comes down to "this isn't what I was expecting". To rub salt on the wound, the actual story is a 180 of what they want, so they felt cheated. Hence the negative reactions. It doesn't help that the story is character-driven. So if you don't like them, you don't like the whole thing. That being said, "they don't have names" is still the dumbest criticism I've ever heard. I mean it's not like you'd suddenly care if GS is called Shirou or something instead.
>>183172048he's buff, alpha and attractive you dumb fuckTHIS ATTRACTS WOMENhe's socially awkward but not because he lacks confidence you brainlet
>>183172048>a solo adventurer who kills nothing but goblins>most adventurers look down on him, even the Sword Saint mistakes him to be at least Bronze-ranked>dude who literally spent the last 5 years killing goblins because his sister is dead>dude also spent 5 years of harsh training under a rhea who would drown him in ice cold water and throw snowballs laden with pebbles in it, all while singing and chanting about how much of a fucking loser he is>also, the rhea keeps taunting him that he couldn't save his sister>a literal manchild who is stuck in the past, wallowing that he couldn't save his sister, so he instead just goes kill goblin to sate his murderboner because that's his only joy in life>is noted by almost everyone that he is insane>'nuh-uh guise he's totally a self insert'it's like you never even watched Goblin Slayer
>>183174891How the hell does those stop him from being a self insert?
>>183174475I respectfully disagree. The best rape is barbaric rape. Slamming your victim on the floor and hearing them scream in suspense is much more arousing for me. I like putting women in a pile diver position while your pumping them up and down.
>>183174891Actually, he doesn't find joy in killing goblins, yeah, he doesn't even find catharsis from exterminating them. He does it to "end his nightmare", he has been fighting against a nightmare for 10 years and it will never stop until all the goblins are dead... or he dies.
>>183174986Do you want to be like GS? With all the trauma and madness? No, nobody wants.
>>183175104>Has bitches getting wet over him for being BADASSThis is every white boi nerd's wet dream.
>>183174986Do you even know what that word means? A self-insert is meant to be a proxy for the protagonist, his circumstances are way too brutal and specific to be in any way relatable to the average anime viewer.
>>183175132They only want the girls part, but not everything else. That is not a true self insert.
>>183175147So are a lot of isekai characters yet they're called self-inserts unironically
>>183175132>chad ALPHA male rejects women because he will only kill goblins and goblins onlyyes, it is every white boi nerd's wet dream
>>183175181Their circumstances pre-isekai are relatable and self-insertable, everything afterward is wish-fulfillment which is a completely unrelated thing.
>>183175186>Not self inserting as the goblin that got away
>>183175229>.0001% of the story is relatable
>>183175266Yup, I think you're actually illiterate.
>>183171650By your logic every show is polarizing.
>>183175230that's every white SOIBOI nerd's wet dream
>>183175147His circumstances aren't that brutal and even then that does not disqualify him from being a self insert.
>>183175297Self-insertion and Wish-Fulfillment go as well as PB&J
>>183171650Because muh rape makes it wrong!
>>183175457>have your entire family and village killed by goblins>have your sister raped in front of yours>the only person to keep you company for the next 5 years is an abusive guardian figure who purposefully breaks you down into a killing machine>afterwards, spend your life fighting daily to near death by exhaustion slaying goblins, witnessing horrific rapes and tortures and barely escaping with your life every time until eventually you gain enough EXP to become somewhat decent but you're still a glorified exterminator in a world of glorious heroes.>but he's a self-insert just because a few girls are attracted to him for literally perfectly justifiable reasons.
>>183172048Unironically this. The worst part of the show is how everybody sucks goblin slayer's dick, like he's some legendary hero, while inexplicably *at the same time* treating him like an underachieving retard who couldn't kill anything bigger than a goblin.SECOND worst part is how what he's doing isn't really any impressive, so all the berserk-style framing of him as some super badass for killing goblins completely falls flat. All he's doing is just killing pests by normal pest-killing methods instead of stupid RPG adventurer methods that people wouldn't use if they weren't living in an RPG to begin with.That's not even touching on other shit like how oh hurr durr the fucking city guard just can't be assed to clear out this massive goblin nest in the sewers because lol theyre just goblins who cares if they crawl out and rape women all the time they're just goblins lol who gives a fuck?? D:D:Dd.dxd.Exterminator isekai is genuinely the same premise but done better. Insomuch as an isekai can be good, anyway.
>>183171650The only reason to not like Goblin Slayer is if you are a goblin
>>183175588>tfw not even gonna read this pile of shit you just wroteSucks to be you!
>>183175560You do realize plenty of nerds are outright masochists that would love everything about his background?
>>183174891Majority of the LN readers are old Japanese man, most likely with single mundane job.So yeah, i can see they want to self insert as broken man healed by smol pure aryan girl.All well received volumes have lot of healing, dead goblins come second, everything else is irrelevant.
>>183175560>Entire familyThe sister was all his family, their parents died went he was a baby.
>>183175346Doesn't make it a bad dream though, does it you fggt.
>>183175560Having an edgy tragic backstory does not disqualify him from being a self insert
>>183175613joke's on you bitch I blacked out while I wrote it and can't even remember what it says
>>183175616Nobody has a masochism fetish at the age of 10 years old, that develops later.
>>183171650don't care what other people think, i hated it because it tried to be overly dramatic with hollywood tier dialogue and acting. the last few episodes were especially bad when they mixed some cockgobbling harem shit with the mc, damn that was really cringey
>>183175560Tragic backstory is fucking bread-and-butter for self-inserts, it's how you add a "character flaw" to them without actually giving them any flaws.
>>183175560There's girls throwing themselves at him. Of course that's reason enough for self inserters.
>>183175665So you're saying if no girls were attracted to him, he wouldn't be a self-insert? Is female attraction all it takes to be a self-insert? I suppose literally any protagonist that has multiple girls interested them is a self-insert then. Though one could argue that all protagonists are inherently self-inserts since stories are fundamentally about relating experience.
>>183175588>Exterminator isekai is genuinely the same premise but done better.It's a different premise. Goblin is based on d&d fantasy world while using mature themes, and exterminator is an isekai adventure that says away from mature content.I like both franchises, but I understand that they are completely different flavors.
>>183171650Besides the characters the show/series literally have NOTHING to offer to the viewer, is just plain boring in every sense of the word, hence, if you like the characters you will like it, if you don't like the characters you will hate it, and on my personal opinion the characters fucking suck, like, not even a single point on anything, they just all suck, Lizardman was kinda funny but it got old too soon and without any interesting cast to interact with well, it also suck.
>>183175709How would you even give them a convincing flaw if they didn't grow up being flawed in the first place?
>>183175746>So you're saying if no girls were attracted to him, he wouldn't be a self-insert?Read my post again and tell me when did I say that.
Is it true that Goblin Slayer is literally some guys playing a DnD campaign?
>>183175751Same premise as in 'guy kills [pests] in a fantasy world by non-fantasy-world means'.The only reason goblin slayer even gets into trouble is because he stupidly teams up with the trio of retards who forbid him from doing intelligent things and drag him down to their level.
>>183175818You're not saying anything right now. Go ahead and define what you actually think a self-insert is already.
>>183171650>while the other half thinks he's the most bland and one-dimensional character in historyI don't know if my opinion is that exaggerated but I do think GS's characters suffers from LN syndrome.
>>183175837>trio of retardsElf only counted as one, anon. He ignore her after a while and still have to rely on his team mates, especially Priestess to survive.
>>183175863GS is an autist doing autistsic things by himself while secretly loved by every woman he interacts with from a distance. Also, even the men who mock and shame him actually secretly respect and admire him and are jealous of his good looks, and so on.In other words, a very plausible fantasy for such an autist to pretend is happening in his boring, mundane life.This is also why they're into incest porn, because their sister is the only female who ever interacts with them and so she perversely becomes the most plausible sexual partner to dream about.
>>183171650the show doesnt do the manga any justice asides from the first episode
>I'm not even talking about the rape sceneOP is a faget and a liar, no (Y**)s for y**.There was nothing polarizing about the show and no one claims it is bad UNLESS they were talking about the rape scene, which is just another "LOL, let's shame the nerds" bruhaha that died down eventually. Those who do claim it is bad are just westerners who are more illiterate than your usual westerner and got cucked by their insane feminist overlords into thinking that some plot is bad and must not be portrayed: war, genocide, and rape. In fact, westerners are so cucked by PoCs and non-male humans that contemporary western literature always glorifies women into positions of power, while men are either evil or side-kicks or weak. Older pieces of literature that still continues on today in the west that has competent men are dying out one by one, hence comics are dying. In the east, my home, we glorious Asians still have everything that makes humans, human. A proper caste system based on personal economic stability. A recognition that all men are not created equal and everyone must dutifully play their roles assigned to them by God or fate as it should be.We see that in GS. We see that shadow of eastern sensibilities, despite the seemingly high fantasy European setting. And it triggers the lowly educated that us superior Asians can still recognize bad things are some truths of this world. And that they can be put into paper for everyone to read and learn.
>>183175588>Unironically this. The worst part of the show is how everybody sucks goblin slayer's dick, like he's some legendary hero, while inexplicably *at the same time* treating him like an underachieving retard who couldn't kill anything bigger than a goblin.he's considered a legendary hero by the townspeople because he actually kills fucking goblins, who are very much the bane of the piss-poor frontier villages (not counting Water Town) and at the same time, he is an underachieving retard who is stuck at killing goblins. I mean, Goblin Slayer is Goblin Slayer, he fucking slays goblins. His sword skills are just suited to kill the smaller, more numerous goblins but not Champions or Lords, or anything else.Even the fucking rhea guy who got demoted to Porcelain is better at fighting than him, just because Goblin Slayer is not experienced in fighting other people, just goblins.And you can see from his tactics that he prefers killing the goblins from a distance than up-front. It was noted that prior to the event of the story, the standard tactic was to level the entire nest by either smoking them out or flooding the whole thing and trapping them inside, and he would only enter the nest when he can't afford having any survivors.>That's not even touching on other shit like how oh hurr durr the fucking city guard just can't be assed to clear out this massive goblin nest in the sewers because lol theyre just goblins who cares if they crawl out and rape women all the time they're just goblins lol who gives a fuck?? D:D:Dd.dxd.they don't even fucking know that there is a massive goblin nest in the sewers, the fucking goblin nest was recently established, and they can't be assed to clear it because the fucking sewers are huge and because it doesn't even fucking pay well, and because they are busy at more serious threats like demons and evil cults.
>>183175837Goblin slayer uses "fantasy world" means to kill goblins which are far more dangerous than mere pests.GS, and Exterminator aren't even really in the same ballpark. The world's are completely different, pacing is different, levels of graphic content are different. And their only similarities are that they are both fiction.I get that you don't like it though, because you have your tastes, and values as a Muslim, and seeing your kind getting killed in a story is probably offensive to you, but I quite enjoy it.
>>183175822Writer was inspired by d&d. GS is basically a character that rolls his own dice, or is the guy that too clever for the DM.
>>183175822Yes and not. Yes, it is a D&D game but the players are actual gods of that world. The Characters are also real, they have no idea their world is a literal game.
>>183176145Anon was asking in the literal sense of the question.
>>183175998You can't self-insert into any of this though, since GS doesn't get romantically involved with any of them, and doesn't even care. You could remove any visible signs of feminine interest and the story would fundamentally not change - it would still be a story about a man and his companions slaying goblins. What you're talking about is more along the lines of power fantasy, that is a matter of self-perception and image. He is difficult to self-insert sexually as because no man could ever hope to be as absolutely disinterested in women as he is. Which is why doujins that involve GS are rare and the vanilla ones that do feature him just feel really out of character.
>>183176097>but I quite enjoy it.Because you're unironically retarded enough to enjoy such a mindless piece of trash.
>>183175998>GS is an autist doing autistsic things by himselfcan't argue with that>while secretly loved by every woman he interacts with from a distancethe noble girl they rescued from the goblin paladin was smitten with priestess, and elf just respects GS, only GG, Priestess, SM and CG harbour romantic feeling for him, and in Priestess case, she doesn't even know that, she's even denser about romance than Goblin Slayer himself>Also, even the men who mock and shame him actually secretly respect and admire him and are jealous of his good looks, and so on.Spearman is a bro and a tsundere, Not!Guts secretly respects him because he rescued his hometown, the beginner party only began after giving them tips on how to kill shit better, and everyone else only began to respect him after the Farm Invasion arc
>>183174527entirely non-sequitor from my post. learn how to read.
>>183176334Hey bro, that's pretty rude. Tone it down, this ain't 4chan.
>>183175651since GS only chases goblins does it mean that GS's waifu would be a goblin?
Goblin Slayer is probably, ironically enough, the most realistic harem protagonist, with his only unrealistic feature being how short he is.Him perpetually wearing a helmet keeps him mysterious. His autistic one word responses make him seem stoic. His anti-social nature is probably making him be seen as a cool solo adventurer kirito dude. He's seen as a reliable hardworker for taking the shitty goblin quests. He incidentally rescues bitches all day. Even if they get to know what a broken person he is, the girls think they can fix him. He's pretty much designed to get any type of pussy wet.
>>183176469He's probably hatefucked a few of them on occasion.
>>183176513>with his only unrealistic feature being how short he is.170cm is pretty average height for jap guys blame them
>>183176162>they have no idea their world is a literal game.This is what I meant, thanks for clarifying.
If Gob Slayer was a woman, would it have been more liked?
>>183175998Almost every new introduced characters including a bunny girl (boy) is taken interest at Priestess instead.Even Elf almost beat the shit out of him when he accidentally talk bad about Priestess.Despite all of that, most of the guild still treat him like a weirdo.
>>183176700The rapefags would enjoy it even more, but that's about it.
>>183176806Goblinposters are so cute.
>>183176700Only if the harem wanted to scissor her.
>>183174450Are you implying an old elf bullying dwarf and a very ripped lizard are not sexy?Goblin slayer party is the most attractive party.
>>183171760It strongly suggests it, but doesn't explicitly show it.
>>183171650It is basically bad DnD game and somebody throws the dice at DM. Saying fuck you, endless 20d!I feel like it is more of a parody of DnD with dark perverted undertones. Basically like:"Should I play DnD or VH?" Fuck that. I want both.Yes it is wish fulfillment but solely from the author's side and I don't blame him for it. You create something alone for yourself. Fair enough. It's like accusing Zun for that his works only contain danmaku and lolis. His work was not meant solely for you.On the other hand where you could give some artistic credit to, is probably portrayal of GS's neurosis. I think it is the deepest part of the show/manga whatever.
>>183176787Again, spoiler anon never said anything about the trap bunny being interested in Priestess. But the thing about elf getting mad, in the last volume it was elf who talked shit about GS and Priestess scared her into saying it was a praise.
>goblin slayer is a self insert because 3 women are attracted to himImagine being such a sad fuck that this concept is high fantasy to you
>>183178416It is kind of pathetic when the people who make fun of self-inserting otaku strawmen are also loveless virgins themselves.
>>183177178you realize the main character died and is generally rather weak at fighting yes?
>>183171650Because this show had a great episode 1, then turns into generic crap? You know, the same as Sword Art Online?
>>183171650I think it is ok it is obviously the "hook" that made it polarising but to me it is more of the choice to make the main character CGI which is really jarring and the overall lack of polish and animation reeking of lazy work.
It was okay. Some fight scenes were cool.
>>183178837I like this girl. I do not know why.
Just watched it yesterday since there was so much hype on it, and I'm disappointed afIt was meh overall, I was glad that they had the balls to go dark enough to ''''show'''' rape and talk about it all the time, but the rest was so subpar it kinda killed the whole thing for meAnimation is trash, especially 3D MCThe world is cliche as fuck, absolutely nothing seems originalThe characters aren't that interesting and their interactions are eye rollingly overdone, yes okay, we get it, the dwarf calls the elf long/knife ears and they fight all the timeAnd the MC being autistic sounded really nice at first, but then why the fuck was he so submissive?See when he told his farm girl that goblins were attacking 'uh, yeah but we're not running aha, fuck life' and he just 'okay no prob'And worse yet 'please don't kill the goblins that way, that way or that way' and he doesn't even ask why or tell her to go fuck herself, why does he even bother with those pests?It's life or death out there, and he just lets them decide whether he should risk his life or not?So yeah, GS has potential, but they completely fucked it all up
Another one about clumsy SM sensei and her crush on one of her students.
>>183178837>>183178875What a qt.
>>183171650 only episode i liked was the first everything else i found boring and generic. would have enjoyed it more if it was closer to an 80's OVA. Also found MC to be a cardboard box that didn't really developed.
>>183179258>All I want is gore pornYour kind should've died out at the turn of the century.
>>183179230>man, I wonder what girl orcbolg likes>does he even feel love at all under there...I wonder what he would say if asked...>^has no idea>maybe he's fucking guild girl on the side! she's really hot and has big tits. God its a shame I'm flat-chested and have absolutely no feminine grace whatsoever. What a shame...>cucked>...ah! It's her, what are you doing here GG!!??????>...are you okay?WOW JAPANESE IS SO HARD
It's Berserk without plot, characters and art. Imagine the whole manga being about Guts killing apostles. Hell, not even this, at least apostles from Berserk have interesting backstories. Without rape no one would even watch or read Goblin Slayer because in its heart it's a shitty generic story with boring world and uninteresting characters.
>>183179527black swordsman arc was best arc
>>183179370WOW SO MUCH FROM YOUR ASS
>>183179527this is spot on
>>183179527Then why the LN & TTRPG that have no on screen rape doing so well?
>>183179527Also without the hiatus
>>183171650unlike 99% of anime the story was well paced, focused, and the characters were both sharply drawn and discernible arcs. This pleased normies.There were however no scenes that took place in a highschool or accidental towel slips. this angered faggots
>>183171650It has rape. The patricians appreciates the rape and enjoys it like gentlemen. The degenerates hate rape and instead shill the worst parts i.e. /v/ tier memes
>>183180146>>183180236Spotted the ledditors.
>>183171650The problem is that Goblin Slayer plays be really fucking stupid double standards.So, like, everything plays by JRPG rules on the surface. Class systems, magic name attacks, enemy types, armor... all of it screams generic JRPG fantasy setting. And then the author wants us to take him seriously when he pulls stuff like "Ha ha, look at these named characters not wearing helmets so you can see their face. They are so easy to kill! lol, aren't they dumb for wearing such impractical armor?"Which is only smart if you are fucking shit tier pleb who takes the 'twist' at face value. What it REALLY does is create the plot hole in the authors own setting of "if this armor is so fucking impractical and shitty, how is there an entire manufacturing economy that mass produces this stuff such that all these adventurers keep getting their hands on it? And how has no one figured out that heads are a vulnerable part of the body before now if all of the enemies do nothing but cheap shot the skull?"Its like the entire world used to operate by different rules and, as soon as the story starts, suddenly all of the tropes stopped working and everything became gritty and realistic, and none of the characters have learned the new rules yet because last week this wasn't how the world worked. It just the most garbage, bottom tier of power fantasy: the MC is stronk not because he is anything special, but because the entire rest of the world has been written to be inexplicably and illogically inept.
>>183180310Degenerate anti-rapefag spotted. One of these days, we’ll hunt you degenerates down and teach you the virtues of rape.
>>183180343It's as if the entire world wasn't just a D&D scenario the gods made for shits and giggles WHOA!
>>183174187>A Mary Sue is a character that everyone within a story likes for no apparant reasonNope, that's a misconception. A Mary Sue can be disliked. BUT the people that dislike the Sue have to be wrong themselves, stupid or outright bad people. We can see this in Goblin Slayer. The people that dislike him don't care about goblins, just about fame and glory. Though everyone that we are supposed to sympathize with is on Goblin Slayers side. Like the reader, they see these people as wrong, whereas Goblin Slayer is right. In other words, everyone opposing him is depicted as ill-informed or otherwise naive and stupid. It still portrays everyone who dislikes him as bad.
>>183180449This. The main draw appears to be seeing the MC being super good at killing goblins, but this is undermined by how the author handles him and the setting around him. He's supposed to be super competent, but all his tricks and strategies are either just common sense or mechanics that are brought up by the author on the spot. The 'bottom of the sea' bomb for example is not only something that most PnP people have done or thought of before anyway, it's also an example of magic just appearing to solve a problem without context. Prior to it showing up, we have no idea that kind of magic exists. So instead of it being an example of the MC gaming the mechanics of his world to win, it's an example of mechanics being introduced out of nowhere for him to win with.The other major sin is that the setting and characters are grossly inconsistent. It's portrayed as a standard JRPG setting 90% of the time, and only switches to a dark gritty setting following dark gritty rules when it's time to wank off how great the MC is. If this is the kind of setting where you can't get away with not wearing a helmet, then why the fuck is Goblin Slayer the only person with the sense to do this? If this is a setting where goblins are a major threat so effective at what they do that the average nest has a full stable of rapemares stolen from nearby towns, why are they treated as a minor menace that everyone looks down on? The answer is this: everything in the setting is designed to highlight how special and smart Goblin Slayer is. Instead of him being super competent, everyone is is incompetent. It's a textbook example of a narrative warping nonsensically around a character because ultimately the story is about masturbating over that character.This, by the way, is the most damning and consistent sign of a legit Mary Sue being present in a story.
I like the manga. But the shows animation is so piss poor it turned me off from watching it.
>>183180423>it’s intentionally made to be an inconsistent power-wank within the meta setting >literally trash tier session nobody should be forced to endure >mfw pitying the players stuck with this shit dm
>>183180423I think the argument is that while he has flaws on paper, they don't translate into actual character faults. Take how when he does eventually ask for help to defend the farmhouse, we see that quite a lot of adventurers actually respect him despite the previous implication that he's some outcast. He's still a weirdo, but people actually like his presence around for various reasons. I'm not a guy claiming mary-sue status, but Goblin Slayer is definitely a guy that has some fake-problems.
>>183180343>look at these named characters not wearing helmets so you can see their face. They are so easy to kill! lol,Update your pasta anon, it's quite old.
Feel like reading it only because it's a non-isekai fantasy and because of the rape of the earlier chapters. The more we learn about the world, the dumber it gets, everyone is stupid except goblin slayer, female adventurers get thrown into the rape-caves like there is an overabundance of them, goblins are tactical masters, except when goblin slayer is around, ordinary protective gear works like intended, but for some reason only goblin slayer cares about it. The human kingdom can't spare a single soldier, but as soon as the elves try to clear the goblin nests in their own territory it would lead to a conflict.Goblin slayer is his own kind of mary sue with a dark and tragic past, instead of just being autistic about killing goblins.
>>183180507>Instead of him being super competent, everyone is is incompetenDon't forget goblins being efficient when fight everyone else, then becoming retarded when fight GS.Female party builds a formation, Goblind accurately hits the head of the center of formation with a rock breaking the formation and allowing to take over.Goblin slayer is attacking goblins from afar with Prietess supporting him next to him Goblin accurately throws a rock...at the head of GS that has a helmet instead of attacking the prietress.
>>183180702It is not easy to make intelligent characters, it is very difficult indeed because the author has to be very intelligent or spend an obscene time in writing, but there are easy ways> Bullshit: you put the characters against people with common sense, then corner the heroes, and it makes something unpredictable happen and the "genius" talk that was how he planned something ridiculously specific in an extremely convenient situation"No game No life"> Everyone is retarded except the MC, self explanatory, and just make everyone that MC is a genius for saying something common sense"Death Note" and "Sherlock Holmes"
>>183180702>Goblin accurately throws a rockI thought it was a lucky hit. Did I forget about that scene? Could have sworn there was some comment about the distance with that hit for a Gob.
>>183171650Show is blatant suffering porn with an inconsistent setting.If goblins were the menace and danger they are shown to be in the show (frequently kidnapping and raping village girls, murdering many adventurers) then they would not be underestimated and instead systematically eradicated by a militia / village mob. Instead the retarded behavior of anyone but goblin slayer continues, so the viewer can get off/upset to goblin rape / murder and then find cathartic release when slayer kills the bad guys. The show is for brainlets.Rape is just a cheap trick to make people care for something they wouldn't otherwise care for, in this case the character-less protagonist. The fact that goblins in the setting can only reproduce with human females, which makes no sense btw, only cements the fact that this show is pure fetish bait without any merit as entertainment, unless you are a sub 80 IQ monkey too stupid to look up porn.
>>183180702>Attack tank the first time, get critical.>Attack tank the second time, blocked by helmet.And Priestess can endure rock to the head without losing spell concentration, let alone become unconscious.Helmet is for talentless, dumb, average adventurer.
>>183180727Goblin Slayer is pretty damn bad. It's like every character in the entire world is some kind of retarded, barring Goblin Slayer himself. Who doesn't even come across as particularly smart, but rather like the lone person to have been granted a sense of common sense or something. The show is pretty fucking inconsistent with its presentation. It's like the only decent thing about it is the tits and ass. And not even that is all too stellar>>183180766Rock didn’t have much power but problems are why he aimed for the metal head instead of the cloth hat?
The real reason is that it got flooded by fucking anime only secondaries.look at all this shit spewed over people who never read the manga or LN.
>>183180786>And Priestess can endure rock to the head without losing spell concentration, let alone become unconscious.Wrong. She would likely suffer a concussion from it. She’s a starting level character that was newly rolled from scratch previously. She’s nowhere near 20.
>>183171650>wish-fulfillment.Yeah, the wish of having your waifus gangraped and bred by gobbos
Goblin Slayer as a story is like the Purge or many, many other bad fictional worlds that sets up a nonsensical world where goblins are constantly raking and torturing young and attractive women across the land but no one is willing to do anything about it except for the lowest level of adventurers. Then the story bends over backwards to create a bland protagonist that solves the problem the logical way - frequently by going against the rules of the world it sets up to make them clever. And then it tries to shame the rest of this entirely fictional world for not addressing the problem as if the author is trying to make a statement about the real world, but teaching morality in such a contrived way is one of the most common features of terrible writing.The manga looks terrible, the art is generic and bad. There are missing textures, clones background prieces, nonsensical anatomies, inconsistent perspectives (not done on purpose), etc.
>>183180782in this thread:people who never played d&d people only know goblins from global homo disney approved fairy tail settingspeedreaders/watchersliteral retardssasuga /a/
Speaking of which, I don't really understand Goblin Slayer's little round shield. It's like the size of a buckler, but it has arm straps instead of a center grip. And as far as I've seen in the manga, he certainly doesn't use it like a buckler.His helmet is a bit weird as well. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert or anything, but I'm guessing there's a reason you don't really see a lot of historical helmets with vertical eye slits.
>>183180832Anon is talking about something that did happen in the story.
>>183180876Not that guy but I’ve seen many people try to consider which editions do DnD this is. Their conclusion was none of them.
>>183180916>His helmet is a bit weird as well. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert or anything, but I'm guessing there's a reason you don't really see a lot of historical helmets with vertical eye slits.Because in real life, you rarely had to fight midgets?
>>183180832Too bad GS have no level. No mention about Priestess skull getting thicker either.New miracles is granted by Gods at their will or she can plead the church.
>>183180423All that speculation is nice but the reality is that this this story presents this tavern as a branch of a larger organization in charge with contracting fighters to help people. Unless you are gold or platinum ranked (in which case you answer to the government directly) you get your jobs from here. With how it's structured it's a wonder it lasted this long. Imagine going on a mission with a group of strangers and finding out mid mission that one of them is emerald ranked while the rest of you are silver and the mission is slaying a hydra.Imagine being a villager who asked the guild to send help only for 3 groups to come through and all die until finally the Goblins are donfident enough and armed enough to just raid your town and kill everyone.This group is terribly written and no amount of mental gymnastics is going to fix it. Why can't they enforce job requirements? What's stopping them from keeping jobs at the counter instead of at a board for anyone to see. Why don't veterans train newbies? It can't be because they are afraid of competition because people already seem to have formed groups and cliches with each other unless your GS because he's kind of a weirdo. The list goes on. Too many questions with no good answers other than, "to make Goblin Slayer look cool when he triumphs"
>>183180832In volume 7, Priestess does tank a rock in the head. She is not normal, dude.
>>183180916Strapping it gave him room to carry another object, like a torch (that could be used as a blunt weapon), which he found helpful for the ganking gobs in their little holes.
Eh it was alright, mostly marred by the godawful CGI.
>>183180343About the ch1 party. I mean, they don't see the cave because they don't explore properly one goblin spots them and that goblin goes for help and brigs almost the entire pack...fine, then a group of goblins attack them mage can 1 shot kill them but she is attacked by 3 at the same time, warrior is sourronded by goblins swining his sword and the sword is "too long" and breaks, how the hell the sword was too long? Either the cave is huge enough to harbor several gobs at the same time and he could use it withot problem or the cave was small and in that case only one goblin at time could attack him, Monk is doing also doing well but a hobgob stealths into her back.Then on the other hand only a couple of goblins go in pursuit of the Prietess the others return to the inner cave to rape the new chick (and the old ones) wouldn't make more sense if they pursued the rest of the fresh meat? But no, only a few go after them, and when they face Goblin slayer they attack one by one instead of attacking at the same time like they did with the adventurers, later MC finds a scout and the scout instead of running to call help or shout to warn the rest instead he attacks MC alone and dies without warning the rest. After killing the Shaman the rest of the pack attack MC then again one by one (it seems they forgot how to go in group) and someway a hobgob with dex enough to perform an stealth attack on Monk and that has night vision, falls with the rope.Sure adventurers were overconfident, sure goblin slayer was experienced, but the fact that goblins become twice as dumb when they fight the MC triggers me.
>>183180971Volume 7. With all the levels she would gain from all the enemies she helped kill like ogre and goblin lord. Not volume 1
>>183180343>And then the author wants us to take him seriously when he pulls stuff like "Ha ha, look at these named characters not wearing helmets so you can see their face. They are so easy to kill! lol, aren't they dumb for wearing such impractical armor?"But people not wearing helmets is quite a famous trope, to be honest. You don't see a lot of heroes wearing a helmet 24/7, now do you? Also, adventurers tend to not wear helmets so that people can recognize their face. It's a fucking marketing strategy, if everyone can see their face, they get fame, and if they get fame, they get to have better quests and possibly raise their ranking. Also, have you tried wearing a helmet? The medieval kind? It blocks most of your vision, it makes it difficult to breathe, it's warm and is generally uncomfortable when worn for long periods of time.>What it REALLY does is create the plot hole in the authors own setting of "if this armor is so fucking impractical and shitty, how is there an entire manufacturing economy that mass produces this stuff such that all these adventurers keep getting their hands on it? And how has no one figured out that heads are a vulnerable part of the body before now if all of the enemies do nothing but cheap shot the skull?"Year One showed us that adventurers do wear helmets, they do wear them especially when they enter caves. Plus, not everyone dies to a cheap shot to a skull, especially not when they are fighting fucking trolls and dragons and ogres and bandits and shit.>It just the most garbage, bottom tier of power fantasy: the MC is stronk not because he is anything special, but because the entire rest of the world has been written to be inexplicably and illogically inept.Wrong, the MC is strong because he is meticulous and he has guts. He's not even noted to be particularly smart, nor strong, nor lucky, nor charming. He only has his guts, the guts to face the same enemy over and over and over again.
>>183180995>swordThe sword isn’t even the problem. His sword wasn’t that much longer than GS & it’s perfectly possible to his that sword in that circumstance. Weapon size isn't really the problem here so much as just general inexperience. Fighter-scrub got in multiple baseball swings in that big-ass tunnel, including at least one totally unimpeded overhead swings, throughout that fight. He was doing perfectly fine until a random rock got in his way ONE time and four goblins instant-speed teleported onto all sides of him (previously having been staying out of his reach to avoid getting clobbered) and proceeded to get in half a dozen attack chains each. His death doesn't really make any sense unless the goblins had future vision and knew that THIS SWING IN SPECIFIC out of the 20 times he swung his sword this fight was going to leave him exposed and moved to take advantage of his opening before he even started his attack, or if his sword hit the rock and he just froze in place for 3 seconds to let himself be stabbed to death because he was so embarrassed. It was a newbie mistake, but it was pretty clearly just a writers excuse to have him die like a bitch. There were half a dozen ways he could have made that particular mistake and still survived the fight, but none of them would have allowed for gratuitous rape scenes so we didn't get those.The problem was that that a stone wall appeared to block newbie warrior's sword in one panel, the wall isn't in any previous or future panels and the cave he fought in is big enough for a 20 foot giant to stand in. There's no amount of preparation will save you if random quantum walls that can block any of your attacks have to be taken into account.
>>183181025You never mentioned that you were talking about specific volume, you only said that Priestess can't tank a rock in the head and that was wrong.
>>183180343Plus, most adventurers aren't used to taking goblins seriously. They are goblins, after all. They aren't evil cults or demons or ogres or dragons. Just goblins.
>>183181025Why would killing Ogre & Lord make her head stronger? Also the guild give her zero exp after the Ogre.
>>183181035>You don't see a lot of heroes wearing a helmet 24/7, now do you? Not that guy but yes, we do. Conan, in spite of common depiction as half naked, frequently gets armor. Lots of artistic depictions of medieval guys like pic related Gawain have helmets. In fantasy video games like Final Fantasy, helmet slots are really common. You even have characters like Kain Highwind who regularly go 24/7 with a helmet or classes like Black Mages where generics virtually never have their faces shown.
>>183181064Not that guy but >>183180702was saying >Female party builds a formation, Goblind accurately hits the head of the center of formation with a rock breaking the formation and allowing to take over.That’s a manga addition to a very early scene. In other words, there’s no confusion given the context of the conversation.
>>183181158Fuck your walls of texts.
>>183173510Fuck off, Slan.
>>183181128I say it's 50-50. A lot of guys wear helmets, but at the same time a lot don't all for valid reasons.
>>183181055The anime is just a poor adaptation in general. The point of the scene was that the Goblins were beginning to swarm them and instead of thrusting his sword he started swinging like a mad man and hit a rock, letting the goblins overtake him. I'm honestly surprised the anime is getting as much attention that it;s gotten, as they butcher scenes left and right.
>>183180968Important job doesn't get posted on the board & requested to adventurer directly & the guild can refuse any adventurers that want to take quest higher than their rank.Goblins is for porcelain rank.
>>183180423GS is just trash that tries to do pragmatism the same way retarded people do intelligent characters.>Priest magic gets destroyed bacteria to the surprise of the priest which is dumb as hell in a world of beasts with plenty of potent poison>Wank around helmets and their practicality, GS uses impractical closed design for cave exploring over a more practical open design>Doesn't stop him from having better perception and hearing inside than everyone else without a helmet>And all of this is done just to hide his face for coolness factor>Monk is useless because it's not RPG where they get bonus unarmed damage that's supposed to be better than common weapons, but why would a monk class exist thenI am sure I will pick it up again when someone tells me it's actually supposed to be a meta DnD session with horrible asspulls, because when you say that it's magic the inconsistencies stop bothering you.
>>183180507>The 'bottom of the sea' bomb for example is not only something that most PnP people have done or thought of before anyway, it's also an example of magic just appearing to solve a problem without context. Prior to it showing up, we have no idea that kind of magic exists. So instead of it being an example of the MC gaming the mechanics of his world to win, it's an example of mechanics being introduced out of nowhere for him to win with.Gate spells do exist in DnD, what do you mean?>If this is the kind of setting where you can't get away with not wearing a helmet, then why the fuck is Goblin Slayer the only person with the sense to do this?Because everyone else wants to sell their face as their 'product', and helmets tend to be uncomfortable when wearing them for a long amount of time.> If this is a setting where goblins are a major threat so effective at what they do that the average nest has a full stable of rapemares stolen from nearby towns, why are they treated as a minor menace that everyone looks down on? Because demons are more of a fucking threat to the major towns and cities, and nobody gives a fuck about podunk villages on the frontier, especially not the nobles who gives zero shits about them. I mean, when was the last time you cared about terrorist attacks on the Middle East? When was the last time you cared about the resurgence of smallpox in some third-world country? Of course you don't, as you are more focused on 'immediate' matters such as paying the taxes and local politics. Goblin Slayer, because it is presented in the eyes of Goblin Slayer and his party, goblins are presented as a major threat because GS faces them more often than he faces bandits or witches or fucking demons for that matter. If this was a story centered around Hero, for example, you wouldn't even fucking know about the goblins other than they are a threat to most settlements on the Frontier, and instead demons would be presented as a major threat..
>>183181176It highly depends but you’ll see helmets mentioned way more in books where you don’t actually see the characters or in video games where equipment doesn’t change your character’s sprite or appearance. It really depends on format but this stuff was originally supposed to be an LN or WN so it falls closer to the “should” than “shouldn’t” for how often they do.
>>183181232>Because demons are more of a fucking threat to the major towns and cities, and nobody gives a fuck about podunk villages on the frontier, especially not the nobles who gives zero shits about them. I mean, when was the last time you cared about terrorist attacks on the Middle EastNot the guy who wrote that but not only do medieval nobles get money from taxes and peasants but that’s really like saying that they can’t do multiple stuff at once. I mean, even Tsarist Russia sent guys to deal with wolves during their worst times. It’s like they can only deal with one problem at once. That actually sounds kinda funny. Guy needs to take a piss but he’s got a tumor so he can’t take a piss before he gets the tumor removed.
>>183181192You never play D&D? Why would healing touch act like remove poison/disease? Since when GS have better perception than Elf? Why you think level 1 monk is good?And no it doesn't based on D&D alone. The battle system is from Lost World, spell is from Sorcery & Dungeon Master. It have Totally Not Beholder, that's it.
>>183181232>demonsSo then if a bunch of newbie adventurers start taking on goblin quests and disappear at a disproportionate rate compared to say rats or other low level mobs, wouldn't that raise suspicions just a tad? You're telling me that since the entire hierarchy was put in place goblins were considered low level mobs purely because of oversight? If a handful of low level goblins can nearly TPK Priestess' original group and they can essentially steamroll most small farming communities then there's no way that that low level adventurers weren't being slaughtered left and right. People would start connecting the dots eventually, it's pure plot contrivance that people would underestimate them purely because they give out bad loot.
>>183181287Yes. In a setting where infected injuries are common shit, they’d have developed ways of dealing with that shit already. It’s like if everyone only made bullet proof vests in a setting with no guns. It wouldn’t make sense if they unreasonably failed to develop defenders against such common problems given magic.
>>183181308It’s a conspiracy you guys. The guild uses it meaningless rankings and promises of adventure to lure young and able bodied people to join them. This leaves their original villages lacking in workforce. Then they send said able bodied youth back to similar, but not the same villages, to do jobs they would have done for free for family or at a cheaper price. They guilds then take a portion of the fees for their own sake even though they’re the reason the villages couldn’t handle those jobs to begin with. Worst yet, the guild deliberately poorly manages everything, providing no training or resources, undoubtedly motivated by laziness and cheapness but also so a simple job a halfway trained team can do will take multiple teams wiping. This is so people think of the threats as way more threatening, ensuring that everyone is too ill-defended by a lack of young manpower to defend themselves and too scared to try themselves, making them reliant on their purposefully poor services, and keeping the population scared enough to go to them, thus keeping them both constantly having a stream of jobs and making sure nobody else can. The guild is a conspiracy. They want to weaken everyone else so they can profit.They send women to goblins because they want goblins to breed, terrorize, and to send people in their direction with money in their hands. They don’t care about ethical or even efficient business.
>>183181232>Gate spells do exist in DnD, what do you mean?This is DnD? Could have sworn it was Runequest or some home brew.
>>183171650This manga has gone downhill since the rape has somehow been removed. For one thing tho, no rape means this shit tier
>>183181343It's called antidote. They can't buy one & in hurry. No, infected injuries aren't common, stronger creatures can resist infection just fine, it was Wizard that being weak.
>>183180968>With how it's structured it's a wonder it lasted this long.The next volume is all about how GG was going to establish a school to teach new adventurers. Plus, everything wasn't really this bad back then, it's only because the Kingdom is busy fighting the demons, and even though the Demon King is already killed by Hero, the armies are still busy licking their wounds and watching over evil cults and other such groups because killing the demon king doesn't mean you defeat the demons, it means that the demons are fucking scattered and leaderless, which means that there are still demons running around.>Why can't they enforce job requirements?There's not much profit in doing goblin quests, anon. And frontier villagers don't have a lot of money to offer as a reward, so anyone who can fight will do.>What's stopping them from keeping jobs at the counter instead of at a board for anyone to see?It's easier on the staff to just put requests on the board than having them to explain shit all over and over again.>Why don't veterans train newbies? They do, but there aren't really a lot of veterans. Plus, as I had stated earlier, GG was opening up a training facility for newbies after acquiring enough funds (and possibly some political maneuvering but we don't see that a lot because this is Goblin Slayer and not Politician Slayer).
>>183181055Yeah, realistically, that fighter should have come out bruised but alive. It is incredibly hard to cut through chain, let alone with childlike strength. An average guy in chainmail should be able to barehand a bunch of kids pretty well. It wouldn't be graceful but it wouldn't exactly by hard either.This is another reason why I just can't jive with Goblin Slayer. The basic equipment and tactics that work for the protagonist just seem to stop working for everyone else.
>>183181179Why isn’t goblin higher? When job isn’t done, nobody profits. They should have enforced minimum requirements for adventurers or trained them rather than accept everyone, no matter how unqualified.
>>183180916The helmet slits that allow poisons, fire, blinding dust, blinding liquids, or slim blades through easily but also obscure specifically his view upwards and to either sides. Helmet ain't good.And also have, for some reason, the ear flap/mutton chops from a late era roman helm, but without the hinges that let them be lifted up to aid him being able to hear better.And no fucking neck protector.But it's okay, because fortunately the goblins never do anything that exploits his weak spots, and whatever troubles he gets into he'll happen to have a strange, indeed usually inexplicable, peice of equipment on him that will be hyper-specific to the unexpected situation he finds himself in.
>>183171650>Why is this show so polarizing?SJW and basedboys are mentally unable to enjoy fiction outside their ethical dogma. Either you stick to the beaten path or its nazism and extremely problematic
>>183180951In real life, people usually don’t get struck by an arm that’s entirely horizontal to their head. Arms are below our heads and many punch from a lower angle.
>>183181446Adventure guilds a shit. Real men go mercenary
>>183181286Goblins aren't the worst problems for them, anon. And, they are lacking in funds. The King even mentioned that he might have to go dragonslaying again to earn more money. There's not much money, they are reeling from the latest war with the demons, most of their armies are either licking their wounds or moving to eliminate more 'serious' threats like necromancers and evil cults, goblin threat is underestimated by the capital, plus the nobles are also being stereotypical and moving to further their own power and agenda. Latest volume was about how they were planning to sacrifice the Kings younger sister to resurrect the demon king or something, so they are definitely up to no good.
>>183181522The premise GS manga could have worked if it turns out that the goblins edgy behaviour is actually a recent development and prior to that they were genuinely newbie fodder.So rather then a stupid guild sending inexperienced adventure parties until the goblins are worn down by attrition your got a confused guild wondering why these adventures are dying to weak enemies.Which makes goblin slayer more of a crazy person because he was killing the while they were still trash tier while shouting "These goblins are going to become the worst thing ever! I have to kill them all before that happens!"At least it would have added some mystery to the story as every one wonders why the goblins have become so rapey and evil.
>>183171650The writing is bad and the only thing that makes it stand out is the autist MC and grimderp tone. It's like Berserk, but for an even younger audience. In fact, it's casualized Berserk.
>>183181409It isn’t. According to GS, no antidote would have saved her. Unless this is an excuse to kill her so she wouldn’t receive a portion of the pay, a random cave’s goblins contain poisons so lethal that no antidote can save them even when it’s only been seconds of infection. In a world with magic, it’s surprising that nobody made a magic solution through prayer or research yet.
>>183181308Most goblin encounters happen in the open, however, and even when they do face them in their caves, the survival rate is about 1 to 3. You are also not accounting for the fact that people in the medieval ages tend to have a lot of kids, especially those people who live in rural areas.
>>183181446Basically kingdom give no shit about silvers & bellow. Platinum kill Devil, army keep capital safe, important & profitable area are protected by Gold. Water Town situation only happen because SM have gobs phobia & won't admit it.The current King is ex-adventurer & quite benevolent, even then he have to be swayed by beautiful blonde to give more fund to build training ground. Even that is actually pointless since Abundance, a Great Old One, will just increases the difficulties.
>>183171650It's very simple anon. The people who hate the show hate it because it's a shit show. The people who like the show like it because they have shit taste.
>>183181537All because they aren’t the worst doesn’t mean they can’t handle them simultaneously. It’s just like I said before about having a tumor automatically means being unable to urinate.And if funds were their concern, why aren’t they operating better? This style of management means they regularly send under qualified people to do jobs they fail at and thus need to send another team for. That sounds extremely inefficient. In fact, their business model seems to rely in having infinite noobs to join them at all times to make up for dead ones.
>>183179230>I wonder if Orcbolg is exterminating goblins again>Oh yeah>That girl isn't here either, they might've gone together again>He should just ask me too>Goblin?>He>To begin with, he's someone of very few words! Well, it's Orcbolg, so that's to be expected...>That girl is quite something too. They're basically always exterminating goblins together>It can't be...>What the heck am I worrying about>High elf?
>>183181585People had lots of kids because of child mortality rates and needing hands. Judging by how these adventurers manage to leave home, they’re either all orphans or family doesn’t need an extra hand to farm or log or whatever they do. Sounds like a massive amount of overpopulation, to the point where nobody has any fishing bait to go around and they just send kids, whom they had to feed for at least a decade, away from home.
>>183181497>Either you stick to the beaten path or its nazism and extremely problematicNo, this IS the beaten path. The SJWs just recently labelled it "Nazism" and "problematic."
>>183180507>It's portrayed as a standard JRPG setting 90% of the timeno. it's portrayed as the gods just playing DnD with everyone's lives. goblins aren't a major threat compared to the world-ending boss mobs that are spawning that everyone else deals with. this is genuinely the whole point of GS's perspective as a character. all the other adventurers are dealing with much bigger fish.>>183180449nobody that dislikes GS at first is being depicted as a bad person. nobody gets him because he's a lunatic that only ever talks about goblins. he's been doing it for years by himself making absolutely zero friends, and refusing all requests to do anything else, until the priestess joins his party and teaches him to open up more. these are all adventurers that are fighting shit with the potential to destroy entire cities and countries, and this fucking weirdo won't help them do any of it because he's got an obsession with murdering goblins. they're not bad people for not understanding his vendetta.
>>183181595>Basically kingdom give no shit about silvers & bellow. Platinum kill Devil, army keep capital safe, important & profitable area are protected by Gold. Water Town situation only happen because SM have gobs phobia & won't admit it.Which again stretches disbelief.Goblins hang out stealing women and pumping out monsters till they can wipe out towns while the villagers patiently wait and the quest is forgotten.One has to wonder if this world has been just created days ago in this state because society would collapse within months under these conditions.Speaking of villages, do people just sit around with their thumbs up their asses and do nothing when threatened with death and destruction?Given how hilariously incompetent beginning adventures that would take such quests are what magical force prevents villagers from forming a mob with torches spears and dogs and going to stop their wives daughters and mothers from birthing a swarm of monsters to kill them all?
>>183181729>it's portrayed as the gods just playing DnD with everyone's livesThey can’t be playing DnD unless they have some SERIOUS house ruling.
>>183171650I think its almost irredeemable wish fulfillment pandering garbage, but I can also see why some people might enjoy it. There can be a big difference between something being good and something being enjoyable. Watching bad movies can be fun because they're so bad. In that way I can understand people liking goblinslayer but if you actually think its good because its story and/or characters are well done then you have chronic shit taste.
>>183171650Because you're only seeing the most vocal minorities dishing it out as always. 90% of people who watch Goblin Slayer or LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE either casually like it or dislike it and that's all there is to it. Like those people, your friends probably just have different tastes. The polarized people who are arguing online about it are doing it because of how it plays into their identity as idalogue. They are sick people with a disease brought about by growing up with social media.
>>183180146>unlike 99% of anime the story was well paced, focused, and the characters were both sharply drawn and discernible arcs.How delusional do you have to be to actually think this?
>>183181729First off, if goblins actively destroying many villages isn’t major, what is? Demons have to be planet destroying threats such that the loss of many villages is brushed off. Any village being wiped out is a number of people dying. Even if it's a far off one, something being wiped out like that is an issue. Not only that but stories of goblin rape are apparently common according to the narration. Those should be signals that goblins are at least somewhat threatening.
>>183175665Fucking this so much. How do you people not understand?
>>183181571>even when it’s only been seconds of infection. The time wizard got poisoned is around 5-10 minutes, the antidote can save her if GS already there when monk fight goblins
>>183181734That only happen in Gold-less area, or when there's no Platinum, so Gold is sent to Capital & Lid Town to keep Devil King at bay.Peasants are proficient in farming, if they can fight they'll fight. They can't, one Troll render every medieval wall/moat useless. Goblins can dig too.>>183181571He also said it is already spread. It contains venom from herb too, not just shit.
>>183181729Jobs are posted but everyone but the protagonist treats goblins like a complete joke that's not a threat at all, even though we see them easily wiping out villages and adventuring groups as well as evolving into super-strong forms. Instead of anyone competent going after them, you just have a stream of inexperienced adventurers with no training that nobody seems to give a shit about going off to get eaten and serve to breed more goblins. The entire setup exists so that Goblin Slayer can be the grim hero who alone understands and faces a dire threat that everyone else ignores and it feels contrived as hell.And for the Mary Sue stuff, that’s inaccurate. Ones like Guts and Lancer secretly respect him or owe him for saving their home village. Sorcress isn’t disrespectful of him either. It’s really the dumbass noobs who talk the most shit and they probably wipe to the kind of stuff GS fights like beholders.
prob bc its not that special on its own. its a good story arc but its just a simple fantasy setting so i think ppl just dismiss it as "boring"
>>183181854Nope. GS said priestess should give up because no antidote can save her right then and there.
>>183181729>bigger fish>>183181867>Gold-lessIt could be believable if Goblins were only a minor threat. But the fact that they can relatively quickly build themselves up to be a fighting force strong enough to topple entire towns despite being supposedly weaker is a problem. Destroying the infrastructure of a kingdom is just as bad as facing down an exterior army. The situation with the Elves makes more sense. They want to mobilize a large force to take down the goblins, but doing so would be seen as a possible act of aggression by the neighboring kingdoms, basically sounding the alarms for a possible war amidst the war against demons. So instead they send small tactical strike forces to deal with the Gobbos. But in that situation they are sending a group of silver ranked elites. Why isn't that the normal response by the guild to handle goblin dens? It can be assumed that one competent silver ranker can take a moderate sized den by himself. A single silver with a group of newbies would be just fine because of his experience and skill.
>>183181763What I want out of Goblin Slayer is a story about a turbo autist murdering little green Jews with a band of hot women fawning over him and the way the manga presents that exact thing makes it extremely enjoyable. In that sense I'd also consider it to be very good. Not every story needs to be serial experiments lain. Do not make the mistake of treating your own personal criteria for quality as objective. Do not make the mistake of thinking all media should be judged by the same criteria either.
>>183181867That only raises further questions on why a common, ordinary gob cave just happens to have poisons nearby that deadly. It ain’t even special yet it has poisons like that? Do the special caves have poisons that kill you before it enters your body?
>>183181870and if the job board is filled with requests to kill giant dragons destroying towns or demons fucking shit up on top of some goblins raiding a small village, what job should those high level adventurers choose to take? which shit is more dire and has the most lives on the line? nobody's getting shown ignoring the goblin jobs to just sit around and do nothing.
>>183181867Then why don’t they? It’s apparently common story that new adventurers get killed and raped yet they still think them weak. If they can fight then why do gobs manage to kidnap their people? Their defences must suck.>>183181919What bothers me is the logistics around the fact that goblins only reproduce by raping women they kidnap. Given the extremely unsanitary conditions, giving birth would almost certainly be fatal. That means they need to kidnap a new woman every single time. So in order for an infestation to actually be made up of a significant number of goblins, they would need to be constantly kidnapping entire villages. So why are they treated as insignificant if they are repeatedly kidnapping, raping, and killing a fairly large slice of the human population?
>>183181827>First off, if goblins actively destroying many villages isn’t major, what is?The occasional village getting destroyed is not a concern in the large picture. In real life, the swedish army destroyed over 2000 villages and towns in northern Germany during the 30 years war, countless examples exists of how much it fucking sucks to have an hostile army roll into your area. A few villages a year really ain't that bad in the grand scheme of things
>>183181984If dragons are so common that every second, they have a galaxy-destroying dragon needing to be killed in the next few seconds before it wipes out the entire solar system then how is there still room for goblins? If those higher threats are so common then do any live in caves? Surely you don’t mean to imply that goblins chased them out of their own homes in that case or that a goblin army didn’t get annihilated by a hungry dragon.
>>183181919Goblins never topple town, only small, unprotected, tax-less villages, even that is rare. Lord & his army never a threat to town, only the farm.>>183181938Some Shamans is more dangerous & clever than Champion & Lord. In fact strongest goblins in the series so far is Shaman capable of subduing a young dragon. Just Priestess being Priestess & she roll worst possible encounter.>>183182001Peasants never treat them weak, because they also weak. 1 on 1 they can win, but gobs have number & darkvision.
>>183181639The problem is that since goblin quests doesn't pay well because their targets are poor villagers, most higher-ranked adventurers won't take it, which leaves the newbies taking the goblin quests.The Guild can't control which quests they take, since adventurers are responsible for their own wellbeing, so they rank it up by levels depending on how trustworthy they needed the adventurer to be, how much is the payment, and how difficult the quest is. Goblin quests tend to come from poor villages, so there's not much money they could pay, meaning that they cannot afford to be picky when it comes to adventurers. High-paying goblin quests are rare, and are probably either requests from nobles wanting someone to rescue their son/daughter from goblins. Plus, it's not only Porcelains who take goblin quests, as Steel ranks do take them on occasion, especially when it's about clearing the nest.The government can't be arsed because they are focused on demons, which are infiltrating their society and as such, they focus much of their efforts there.This is noted to be a recent development, as GG did say that the rewards for goblin quests are getting lower and lower in the past 5 years IIRC, when SM and the King were still adventurers are were probably trying to defeat the Demon King or something.Plus, GG had been pulling some strings to try improve things as of late, the aforementioned training facilities was being established to help give newbies more experience when it comes to fighting and adventuring. In fact, that's the whole point of Volume 6, GG establishes a training camp and gets Goblin Slayer involved in it.
>>183182025Yes, it is major. In real life, feudalism often worked under the assumption that the nobles can provide protection or other benefits to their serfs. The 30 years war also isn’t a common, everyday event they brush off. We people developed ways to hunt foxes, fears of snakes, just because they were deadly even when they were far from world destroying.
>>183172048my ex gf fell for me because i was "stoic and mysterious (i just didn't talk much)"
>>183173944A self-insert doesn't have to be a direct audience cipher. The gritty, masculine badass is as much a target for self-insertion as the generic everyman is.
>>183182001>Given the extremely unsanitary conditions, giving birth would almost certainly be fatal. That means they need to kidnap a new woman every single time.Goblins reproduce fast, and they tend to keep the women alive for at least a couple of weeks before she dies of exhaustion.
>>183182051>Goblins never topple town, only small, unprotected, tax-less villages, even that is rareThat’s wrong as the wide list of gob jobs and orpans like main char are there. They aren’t rare with many gobs able to take residence in abandoned forts while not being a special band. They can hold a place to terrorize the local area. That alone puts them above many wandering animals who cant stay long.
This manga would be MUCH better if we were following a newbie GS as he learns about goblins and comes up with special tactics to defeat them while running solo. Instead GS knows everything already because writing GS as a self insert is easy and general audiences aren't smart enough to understand or care about why that's stupid. It's why isekai has made so much headway recently.
>>183182031some fucking demon lord thing is just now getting killed by a hero during the events of GS's first season. it is entirely reasonable to surmise that high level monster activity has been rampant and occupying most of the time for the adventurers high enough level to fight them.
>>183182051>numberYou mean to tell me that the gobs outnumber them even in their home village? That the villages have less than a dozen people given how many sparsely populated caves weve seen?
>>183182128>A self-insert doesn't have to be a direct audience cipher. The gritty, masculine badass is as much a target for self-insertion as the generic everyman is.By that logic every single fucking character in existence is a self insert. At that point it is impossible to argue against that because it means everyone is a self insert.
>>183182172isn't there literally a year one gs manga that does exactly this?
>>183176787Princess growing up nicely I see the endgame with her is becoming the GS btw
>>183182172But that's already a thing? It's called Year One.
>>183182175So we have a setting where there are numerous threats which are sufficiently catastrophic that losing villages are nothing, the goblins manage to not be trampled by these larger threats. Does every Tuesday have a dragon roast half the continent while specifically avoiding eating goblins? Sounds to me like these goblins shouldn’t thrive at all, they should be dying out.
>>183182204Exactly. Favorite characters are usually ones you aspire to be.
>>183182091Surely in any fantasy setting that has vicious ass Goblins in a Goblin Slayer type scenario. There wouldn't be just one weirdo muderhobo snowflake who takes Goblin threats seriously. More than many experienced adventurers, professionals, military personnel and veterans will indeed take Goblin threats into consideration. As opposed to the Goblin Slayer show where the "High tier" adventurers, warriors and heroes just scoff at taking Goblin related jobs for being "too low and petty for their Calibre."And i guess it's safe to say that "realistically" and in practicality, any Adventurers Guild that starts noticing a high ratio of "newbies" and amatuer adventurers being generally brutalized, raped and outright murdered will start considering to not Willy Nily hand out such jobs to such lower class and inexperienced personnel. Due to the dangers and recent reports, stats and whatnot?Basically even "higher tier" adventurers and personnel and heroes would actually consider taking Goblin Slayer's words into account or at least treat Gobs as a legit threat compared to what we mostly see in the show where Gobs are foolishly underestimated by nearly everyone except the main and supporting cast?
>>183181931The funny thing is that goblins are the fictional representation of white people.They massacring and raping their way through the entire new world is just an example of their savagery.Goblin Slayer may be what white people consider a burden/their kryptonite...etc. There is only one fate for these murderous creatures.
>>183182031Yes, goblins get annihilated by stronger monster like Rock Eater is common. Adult dragons are sleeping most of the time, it was the young ones that need to be trimmed constantly to prevent them becoming adult.Demons need multiple Silvers to take on, Devil/legendary vampire is Gold & Platinum tier.Ice Witch, a vampire, do annihilate every goblins in her mountain & use horde of Yeti as her henchmen.Only scrub tier Demon like Ogre use goblins as foot soldier.>>183182155Yes, abandoned, that mean dwarf build them, think it's suck & leave to build a new one. Even years after occupying dwarven fortress, Goblin Paladin unable to take control of nearby village, nor villager know they exist.Goblins are no big deal.>>183182196Yes? They sent scout first to gather information about village. If they can swarm them, they swarm. If not, then it's night hit & run tactic.
>>183181931>What I want out of Goblin Slayer is a story about a turbo autist murdering little green Jews with a band of hot women fawning over him and the way the manga presents that exact thing makes it extremely enjoyable.So you like it because you can self insert into it. GS is shit because it encourages the audience to self-insert as GS and thats all it aspires to be. Like I said, I have no problem whatsoever with people enjoying it as a guilty pleasure, so long as you understand that taken at face value its shit.>Do not make the mistake of treating your own personal criteria for quality as objective.Yeah, dont try to lecture me you fucking faggot. Especially when I was saying its fine to not share my opinion.
>>183182241>>183182259And its better than the original manga. It should have started with that premise.
Look at all of you Frodoing when the author most likely have thought about all that and realize that his story would be over in less than one volume if he ever included any of this in his narrative.
>>183181899The time wizard got poisoned is around 5-10 minutes, the antidote can save her if GS already there when monk fight goblins
>>183182091>poor villagersWho’s doing the payment? Do these people really not have anyone claiming their lands in the name of taxing people for profit? Even then, how do these people do any trade or repairs for farm tools if they’re this poor? No crops to trade for guys or even pitchforks to arm some adults so they can stab some goblins themselves? What’s this economy become?
>>183182325> I have no problem whatsoever with people enjoying it as a guilty pleasure, so long as you understand that taken at face value its shit.>Proceeds to get assblasted when someone calls you out on your arrogance.
>>183182025>the 30 years warYou mean the conflict so bloody europe had seen nothing like it before and wouldn't again until the world wars? Europe, incidentally, obviously being a much larger setting than the GS one, where you can have individual heroes personally saving the world. They're probably dealing with hundreds of thousands at best, not hundreds of millions. A few villages is going to be a big deal to them.
>>183182354She had been stabbed for at most two minutes by the time GS arrived. And somehow GS was able to tell that she was already a goner instantly and without asking how long she’s been poison.
>>183182378>being defensive because someone's calling out your shitty mangaMust suck to be so insecure that text on the internet makes you angry
>>183182266in what way are the goblins depicted as "thriving"? one goblin lord shows up for a single arc who has a tiny army attempting to sack a single farm. all other goblins shown are either being used as pawns, or are small nests that GS easily wipes out. goblins are not secretly overrunning the entire world, they are popping up and fucking up a village or abducting a few girls here or there.
>>183182313Absolutely based. Maybe that's why they are do obssesed about it. It's in their nature. kek
>>183182318Orge was a high ranking member in the demon king’s army. This would indirectly imply that generals in the demon king’s army, especially one who’s said to have destroyed high level adventurers before, aren’t worth much.
>>183182415I wasn't even the guy who you were arguing with, but just calling a fag a fag.
>>183182401Before priestess run it's around 2-3 minutes when priestess run it's around 2-4 minutes before she stop.
>>183182091By the way, why don’t they pay much? If multiple parties wipe, that’s multiple parties worth of gear to loot. It’s likely noob gear but they can definitely make or save a pretty penny on getting entire parties worth of equipment. If anything, the final party which succeeds in the goblin quest ought to come home with some sweet loot or knowledge of sweet loot in that cave they just came from.Why aren’t the guild more responsible for the well-being of their workers? Dead workers don’t do jobs. Dead workers don’t bring any money. Dead workers also cost time because how do they know the team is dead or just taking extra time? They could redundancy send a team to meet up with a finished job or they could send another to finish the job. Guy was saying, why can’t they focus on two things at once? They spend all their time on one, the other will ruin them.If it’s lowered then why don’t they ask why? Too much adventurers and not enough jobs?Why don’t they do that before? Did sending untrained noobs work well years ago? Weird guild.
>>183182470He is right you know.
>>183182418Goblins are depicted as appearing virtually everywhere. On the frontier, lots. In a nearby village about to raid. In the sewers of a walled city. In the armies of demons. Enough that the guild can’t handle all those jobs and they stack up. They are thriving in the same way cockroaches are. They’re everywhere. That’s pretty thriving compared to uncommon or endangered animals.
>>183182418>in what way are the goblins depicted as "thriving"Population. They have sayings like how a new goblin is spawned every time someone trips. That's a sign that they're common as dirt.
>>183182374>Do these people really not have anyone claiming their lands in the name of taxing people for profit?Yes, they live taxless & you need to become gold/nobles to become landlord.>>183182440Ogres are NORMAL ENCOUNTER, equal to goblins, in last floor of Devil Asylum. SM's boyfriend kill him in less than one page. Sure the one that GS faced is stronger than average, but Devil even the lowest rank is more troublesome than him.And the latest one job to a fucking steel rank priest with zero spell, she even exhausted from witch/vampire hunt. She's not normal though.
>>183182687>they live taxlesswat
>>183182552You know, this whole>adventurers take care of themselvessounds like it's going to fuck things up. They don't train, they are barely regulated & if they die because they're careless, everyone suffers because the job's not done. Even in opportunity costs, a mismanaged dead team could have members with the potential to be big heroes. They're wasting human resources.
>>183182735>They're wasting human resourcesSounds like humanity up until recent times
>>183182707I mean villagers that lives not under gold protection have no need to pay tax. Have monsters problem? Solve it on your own or hire adventurersAnd gold number isn't that large, not to mention lot of them prefers to become independent, like Old Rhea.
>>183182470You can still feel defensive even if you aren't personally under attack. Doesn't surprise me that a GSfag cant understand something so simple.
>>183182687>Yes, they live taxless & you need to become gold/nobles to become landlordYou're saying that nobody sees valuable farmland & decides it's worth claiming? No politician looking to become richer? These are some weird nobles
Goblin Slayer isn't about slaying goblins at all. You guys are fucking idiots.It's a metaphor for being aliveDespite being in the adventurer's guild, he's not an adventurer. He doesn't care about adventure. He's a suit of armor powered by the spirit of a dead-inside autistic exterminator. He's become so much of a Goblin himself that he's very slowly relearning how to connect to other people. Taking off his helmet was symbolism to him allowing himself to be more than the literal suit of armor he's been for so long. People didn't think it was a big deal because they admire him. They thought it was a big deal because it turned out he was a human being after all. He allowed a genuine expression of humanity out and got a warm reception because that's what connecting to other people is like. Try it sometime.It's not even that deep. It's evident in everything he does. He avoids any "rolls of the dice" with every action. He isn't trying to fight some great duel or express his passion. He isn't trying to do anything other than Slay Goblins in most efficient way possible. Rolling the dice and the excitement of taking chances is what games like D&D, and the exciting parts of living life, are all about. He's great at what he does but as missed the point of both.That's the point of Goblin Slayer.The dice and never seeing his face and him never having any emotional expression aren't accidents. You retards prattling on about whatever goblin fanfic bullshit theories you have about the economics of goblin slaying or whatever should spend a fraction of that effort trying to understand symbolism instead. Holy fuck. I bet you were the kid in class that read Charlotte's web and talked about the impracticability of a spider having a brain large enough to understand how to spell or something, you dumb asshole.
>>183182764Humanity had been very careful with manpower unless it's a case of having fuckloads of untrained conscripts like the soviet union. And even then they taught them how to use their guns. Historically, armies would rout & fatalities rates wouldn't be too high. People would prefer having better fighters & trained their people.
>>183182805The fact that you're still going on means that you've got that much of a hateboner of a series which is just pathetic.
>>183182813It's about plot armor isn't it? it's about double standards like >>183180343 said. Besides, the dice are a fundamental part of DnD. Roling a 1 screws anyone in some editions.
>>183182812You need at least gold rank to become landlord, otherwise your area will be wiped by next high rank creatures. They can only protect finite land.You think normal medieval army can do jackshit against constant Manticore/Slime/Rock Eater.
>>183182867>It's about plot armor isn't it?How?
>Self insert>plot armorCome on guys you still haven't used isekai or mary sue yet
>>183182884No you don't. You can hire gold ranks. Also, these frontier villages aren't demolished within days. Entire generations successfully live there. Unless each has a gold guarding it, they don't need a gold rank. And a normal medieval army would fare much better than a small band of teenagers and far better than these villages who all survive on their own. This is also a magical setting so the equivalent army for an equivalent politician can include magicians,
>>183171650>people either really like the show or think it's absolutely abhorrent.Why even say something like this if it's wrong.
>>183182867>plot armourGS almost dies for like, three times during the anime. He was very close to death during the Water Town arc and would have died if not for Resurrection.
>>183171650I don't see what the big deal is about rape. It's just a dick in your hole for a few minutes. It's nowhere near as bad as murder, cancer, or getting flirty eyes from a fat chick. And really, women can't be raped since the vagina is designed to accommodate cock. Only men can be raped. If a woman is penetrated anally against her will, she's just experiencing male rape, which is an excellent learning experience for her, to discover the struggles that men go through.For women, rape isn't a big deal. It's just typical female exaggeration to get attention. They all fantasize about rape so they actually enjoy it. They just want to trade in their "victim" status for clothing and jewelry and don't want to give sex away for free. Really, the only punishment for rape should be to pay the equivalent of the going rate for whatever sex act was performed with a local prostitute of equivalent attractiveness. Since it's the same punishment, why would anyone rape a Feminist instead of a beautiful woman?Those fat ugly feminists that scream the loudest that "no means NO," are actually hoping to limit the amount of sex the genetically gifted attractive women get. And, in so doing, hoping that some hapless male starving for sex will find himself scraping the very, very bottom of the barrel where the fat and ugly feminist will finally have the chance to scream, "YES, FUCK ME HARD."Hey fat ugly feminists, it isn't going to work. You only really have one option. Lose the weight, learn how to use make up, and get an overhaul of your personality. In some cases you may need extensive plastic surgery to have any hope of getting my cock rammed into your ass. In some extreme cases, it is entirely hopeless and you should just give up. If you are this last case, try having sex with animals if you find you can approach them without scaring them away.
>>183182953We already used Mary Stu in this thread speed reader kun.And yes those things are true about GS.
>>183182953You say that like those words arent true
>>183182953It's a native isekai with Mary Sue MC therefore it's terrible.How bout that?
>>183171650The gimmick wears off fast.
>>183182953Not our fault that Goblin Slayer is a Native Isekai with a generic Mary Sue MC with plot armor covering him from head to toe.
>>1831830527.5/10Didn't use self insert
>Native IsekaiHow about just fantasy, you weeb retards?
>>183178498Spoilers. Did he?
>>183182956>You can hire gold ranks.Gold only obey kingdom. You can't hire SM.>Entire generations successfully live there.Of course, some even live years without being attacked by goblins. It's a risk they have to face when they don't pay tax. Not saying they will be dead without gold. They can also hire silvers & down as much as they can afford.>And a normal medieval army would fare much better than a small band of teenagersAnd require much more supply. One gold/silver rank eats about the same as one person.>can include magicians,Magician are rare & why they need to listen to weak politician when they can get profit by becoming adventurer?>>183182953Funny thing is, in LN thread, people complaining because GS ISN'T A MARY SUE that job quite often & need to be saved by Priestess.Guess following the series do make differences.
>>183183091It's Native Isekai you retard.
>>183183023Only Black Swordsman is similar to Goblin Slayer. Berserk as a whole has much more to offer.
Every sales thread had a yurifag shitting on Goblin Slayer. Given the amount of people bitching that he's attracts too many women, I think I see the problem they're having.
>>183182897Protagonist always has things never inconveniencing him like everyone else. Someone else would die, he lives. Someone else would be severely injured, he's never so injured that he can't pop a health potion & pull something out his ass to win. Even his strategies are retarded half the time. That dust explosion shit should either never happened because dust explosions don't work like that, beholder disintegrates aren't heat rays & he ain't fighting an eye of flame, or he should have suffered breathing issues from exploding the place.
>>183173748Weak bait, /pol/tard.
>>183175038I can tell from this post that you're a bonafide virgin.
>>183183110>Gold only obey kingdom. You can't hire SM.Money says otherwise. And they listen to others too. SM isn't the only gold that exists.>Of course, some even live years without being attacked by goblinsEntire lifetimes. Those are many years of unpaid taxes. Those are decades of $. And goblins can be fended off without the use of gold ranks half the time. And even when they come, that's once in a blue moon compared to peaceful days.>And require much more supply. One gold/silver rank eats about the same as one person.You don't know how logistics works do you? A small band of untrained teenagers have little to no effectiveness compared to even a peasant levied army. A feudal army can consist of professional soldiers but also villagers who've been drilled once a week to use a spear, a villager who does logging & thus can swing an axe, or villagers who go hunting & can use a bow. The additional costs are miniscule. The best part is that because it's home defense, there's home turf advantage. Thus many threats would be avoided by not going to them & invading threats are fighting an uphill battle. A medieval army composed of somewhat drilled levies would beat a random team of teenagers who would likely cock up the job in the first place.>Magician are rare & why they need to listen to weak politician when they can get profit by becoming adventurer?If they're rare then they're rare for everyone. Guild included. Why would they listen? Money. Many lords get rich off the taxes they make, the produce their people make, etc. The serf may be poor but most of the time the guy the serf works for is loaded. All the politician needs to do is tell them about the money made through land & it's all set. A steady stream of income.
>>183182785>Have monsters problem?What if you have human problem?
>>183183110Goblin Slayer is bad writing.Farms were so vital the stability of empires like Rome that if the farms were destroyed, Rome would be in danger of starvation.In Goblin Slayer, we have a fuedal society and the power and stability of such a system depends on the villages and farms providing a stable resource of taxes and crops to the local lord and then tributes passing up the social ladder all the way to the king.It's pure bullshit that the local lord in charge of the territory where Goblin Slayer takes place does nothing about goblin infestations with his own forces.The more villages and farms that get destroyed by goblins, the less tax he receives and the poorer in reputation and ranking he becomes in the feudal system and he could be in danger of plots by other lords to take advantage of his decline in social status and wealth.
>>183183335thanks for pointing that one out to the rest of us anon good job
Ya'll stupid.You know how Goblin Slayer SHOULD end, and it makes sense?A Local Lord/King gets off his ass, and requisitions a good portion of money to create a small force; pursuant to the amount of money it costs relatively to hire adventurers and the money it costs to repair events from post goblin-menaces.You can levy a small tax from villages in the frontier as a precautionary measure.This Lord hires Goblin Slayer to serve as the director of this "Goblin Patrol", using the taxes levied on the frontier cities to constantly train small amounts of peasants in towns and create militias trained in creating preparations and militias to smoke out/kill goblins, using Goblin Slayer's techiques and methods.Goblin Slayer would train his people well, and his methods rely on tested mass genocide methods, not highly skilled silver+ adventurers.That's how I envision Goblin Slayer ending.
Ohhhh this felt really good too see. That's called karma, fucker.
>>183183411All gold that appeared so far, including wild card Burglar obey kingdom, only kingdom. Disobey & you get demoted, your magic gear gets confiscated.>Entire lifetimes.And it takes one bad roll to spawn Demon & reset everything to zero.>A small band of untrained teenagers have little to no effectiveness compared to even a peasant levied army.You don't follow the series? Adventurers have high stats, if they don't, they're peasants. They still eat the same, cheaper to just hire them than using your manpower to create army.How the lord collect taxes in the first place if they can't protect the land? "Give your money to me and i'll hire others to protect you"? What makes him different than guild? Be a gold or bust.
>>183183674>Disobey & you get demoted, your magic gear gets confiscated.And I just let them take my gear? Don't be stupid.>And it takes one bad roll to spawn Demon & reset everything to zero.What, demons regularly roll all of society back to the stone age? How does anything function, then?>You don't follow the series? Adventurers have high stats, if they don't, they're peasants. They still eat the same, cheaper to just hire them than using your manpower to create army.Yeah, or just, y'know, instead of just sort of marching untrained, unequipped kids into the wilderness to be killed by whatever they bump into in there, you put them in a barracks and give them proper gear and train them to fight.These guys are going to start off with better stats and gear than adventurers do, they're going to maintain this advantage over equal-ranked adventurers throughout their careers, and there are going to be way more of them, and they're going to be way cheaper.And you can do shit with them like march them into the wilderness en mass to kill absolutely everything in there bigger than a fox. Then you burn down the stupid tree houses monsters keep spontaneously manifesting in, collapse or ford rivers into the caves, etc. Then you build a bunch of little forts of your own along your border and put some runners or horse riders in them to sound the alarm in case of an attack.And to pay for all this, you tax the peasants.And then, once you've gotten rid of all the monsters and demons and whatever other trivial threats that are currently being handled by random-ass fucking adventurers who can't hold a candle to proper soldiers or warriors, THEN... you start fighting other human kingdoms.
>>183183674>All gold that appeared so far, including wild card Burglar obey kingdom, only kingdomAll swans people witnessed to a point in history were white. And nothing on paper says it's a necessity that they must serve the royals, thus they can exist.>And it takes one bad roll to spawn Demon & reset everything to zero.Not only does this go the same for everyone, thus the desire to milk these people seems all the more valuable, but the odds of that happening are very low. If it's demons, you can call bigger boys as people take them more serious than goblins. >You don't follow the series? Adventurers have high stats, if they don't, they're peasants.That's ridiculous on so many levels. For one, how do you know they will be born that way? the protag of this series was a random peasant before his village was destroyed. Is there an x-ray machine for determining who's got the stats at a young age? By the looks of it, many adventurers were originally random village folk to begin with. Secondly, if they're skilled enough to be adventurers then they can be employed by their lording landowner. Unless saying the words "I want to leave home and become an adventurer" automatically makes you a thousand times stronger, they would be just as strong running away to join a guild as they would be staying & defending home.Third, haven't you considered the odds of a peasant who doesn't want to become an adventurer? Or the odds that a peasant would like to stay at home & train more before setting out? There's so many reasons for why an able bodied person would stay. Given that there are town guards in cites, unless they're completely useless at their jobs, they should be somewhat strong too.>They still eat the same, cheaper to just hire them than using your manpower to create army.That is completely backwards & retarded. An adventurer from another place would demand payment, is working for payment & has no stake besides a paycheck.
>>183183674cont from >>183183947The villagers at home have an actual attachment to the place. Their food they already farmed & gave the politician their portion. Their homes are already there & they like them intact. This idea that hiring outside mercenaries who clearly seek profit being cheaper than home-drilled defenders imply that either those mercenaries are paid in rocks & dirt, or the world is backwards. Not even IRL armies rely 24/7 on mercenaries in today's age.>How the lord collect taxes in the first place if they can't protect the land?They can. Because they can tell people that if they serve as guards, they get a portion of the taxes. Those tax dollars are a steady stream of cash which made many rich historically. A small cut of it is still sizable & promises go a long way.
>>183183335>goblins = muslimsSeems about right though. I mean if you go solely by stereotypes. Not saying that I think that the stereotypes are true, or not. I'm just acknowledging that the stereotypes exist.
>>183184044Want me to dip my spoon to this soup?Goblins, muslims? Give me a break. I know this must be some yankee vs muslim thing. Or Rothchild English man vs Ahmed thing.I get itBut please shut the fuck up. Your both cultures monetized rape. Not that it happens in west anymore on industrial scale or on any level. In bumfuck arabia it is just way of how things work. But this does not wash away the west from monetizing rape for centuries building on it, developing on it, while calling themselves enlightened. It is laughable. It is two bullies with dick measuring contest on and everyone in between gets crushed under their schlong.
>>183184195I want to rape Reinhard
>>183184195>while calling themselves enlightened. It is laughableand yet without said culture you would have been a dumb fucking yokel shoveling shit all day until you die from a shitty disease
>>183184372Ya think there was no other culture, tech. Fuck off Merimutt. Go drink some lead.
>>183183903>And I just let them take my gear? Don't be stupid.No, you get marked as bandit & hunted. You actually win? Congrats, Abundance take action. Want to challenge Great Old One? Good luck.>What, demons regularly roll all of society back to the stone age?Only in unprotected area.>you put them in a barracks and give them proper gear and train them to fight.It's called army, it exist and they don't spawn platinum tier. Chosen one come from tavern. King recognize this & build guild to facilitate them.Then Ice Witch come & hit your land with eternal winter. Your army starves, everything get slaughtered except some that she kept as human cattle. The lack of randomness/dice because you raise them like Goblin Slayer mean there's no platinum either. So you toasted.
>>183184422>Ya think there was no other culture, techname one successful culture in human history that didn't commit the atrocities you loathe
>>183184451Way to strawman, bro.With tech like fire comes shit along with it. I am just saying, "durr hurr white race master race" you are a moron and probably living in a trailer.
>>183174545>Or the original 2chan storyWhat story?
>>183184428>No, you get marked as bandit & hunted. By whom? They need some ability to enforce that or else it’s just an empty threat. If the enemy has magical weapons, antagonizing them can backfire and lead to them joining an enemy nation or willingly going into illegal activities.>Only in unprotected area.Which is relevant to this discussion of feudalism how? In feudalism, overlords give back to their serfs. A common thing is protection. >It's called army, it exist and they don't spawn platinum tier. How the hell do you know that? That some dipshit who ran from home to become some hero is somehow empower by their lack of formal training? This isn’t Disney Star Wars where teenage girls can instantly master magic powers because plot. The chosen one can be a random village boy who maybe decided to remain home and learn to fight. The ice witch will die easily. If a small team of untrained adventures can defeat her then what will she do against an army whose fighters are all individually better trained and more skilled, by actually having training, than any of that team? Ten 5s are much greater than two 1s.
>>183183674This guild is no damn guild to begin with. No system of apprentices and masters. No formal training. I don’t even think they’re trying to monopolize a trade. Nothing alike an actual guild but the name.
>>183183947>>183184007>the protag of this series was a random peasant before his village was destroyed.No he get created from the thin air. So does the rest of his party except Priestess. At the same time too despite they have different ages separated by millennium.>Secondly, if they're skilled enough to be adventurers then they can be employed by their lording landowner. Or employed by guild, what's the differences?Does the name guild mean it's automatically bad? The guild despite all of that still operated at loss & have to be funded by kingdom, which come from the tax.>Third, haven't you considered the odds of a peasant who doesn't want to become an adventurer? Or the odds that a peasant would like to stay at home & train more before setting out?They did exist & become army/towns guard & lot of adventurers didn't start by age 15 either.Wait where is the first?>An adventurer from another place would demand payment, is working for payment & has no stake besides a paycheck.They're bounded by alignment system. Guild never accept chaotic/evil & keep track of their adventurers.>>183184590>This isn’t Disney Star Wars where teenage girls can instantly master magic powers because plot.You seriously didn't follow this series are you?Ice Witch destroy entire civilization, army & all. Kingdom can't do nothing about her for 100 years. She beaten by lucky girl, you don't get lucky by training. You get lucky because you get chosen by God. So far zero chosen one come from army. All of them come from guild.
>>183184428>The lack of randomness/dice That’s a good thing. It means that instead of them trying shit out themselves, they’re taught how to do shit right. Instead of an idiot who’s too dumb to point a gun at the enemy, he’s taught to aim at the enemy. Your logic is saying that it’s better off not educating them and just them reinvent physics or math by themselves. It’s not better. Not in the slightest.
>>183184762>No he get created from the thin air.Did you read this? His backstory was that he was a village boy who’s family & village was killed by goblins & thus he hates them. He was born & raised just like any other child.
>>183184813>Did you read this?Did you?
>>183184762>No he get created from the thin airWhat. So what about his backstory? His mom and dad didn’t bang?>Or employed by guild, what's the differencesThe guild provides no training, no housing, no family members. That alone is a world of difference.>which come from the tax.Where do the taxes come from?>They did exist & become army/towns guard & lot of adventurers didn't start by age 15 either.So there are adventurer-level combatants out there. In other words, being an adventurer doesn’t make you inherently stronger. A town guard who changes jobs to adventurer isn’t automatically stronger. An adventurer who decides to spontaneously retire to become a town guard isn’t magically weaker because he’s not an adventurer anymore.>They're bounded by alignment system. Guild never accept chaotic/evil & keep track of their adventurers.If you’ve ever played DnD, you’ll know that the alignment system is a highly exploitable thing with thousands of loopholes & DMs who allow burning down a village for EXP to be only chaotic.Also, working for a pay check or fame is exactly what almost every adventurer does in this LN. Otherwise why wouldn’t they do goblin slaying jobs out of altruism? If working for profit or fame is evil or chaotic then 99% of the guild would be considered evil for only aiding GS against the goblin army for money.
>>183184848Yes, I did. Now cut to the part where he explains his life up until that point. He’s a 20-something year old man with over 5 years of experience fighting goblins. He has a mom & dad & sister who are dead because of goblins.
I want the racist fight to continue. Reveal the true goblins of this world.
>>183184762>Ice Witch destroy entire civilization, army & all. Kingdom can't do nothing about her for 100 years. Nope, Kingdom succeed. Because in one alternate timeline, Haruhi decided to stay at home after getting the legendary sword and insta-kills the Ice Witch when it shows up. >So far zero chosen one come from army. All of them come from guild.All wrong. Completely wrong. I’m going to correct it>All come from village and home. None come from anywhere else.Haruhi was born in a village. She was not born in a guild. She was not born anywhere. She chose to join the guild. She could have chose to join anywhere else or make her own guild because she’s strong enough to do whatever she wants. The guild is nothing. She would be just as strong if she quit and joined someone else.
>retards still don't understand that the world is a literal tabletop game
>>183184195>>183184195>In bumfuck arabia it is just way of how things workHence the stereotype remains.
>>183184518>assblasted for no reasonCalm down anon. You're getting way too emotional.
>>183184770Yes, the lack of Platinum is surely a good thing.Let's see how many Devil King beaten by tacticool Goblin Slayer, wait it's zero. He actually job to goblins.Even Priestess still rely on luck, she just use GS' tactic to tilt the dice on her favor.>>183184915See >>183184915Guild do provide training ground & housing. First time they do that actually turn into disaster because grouping all your rookies in one place make them juicy target for one sweep wipe out.>Where do the taxes come from?Kingdom rule a huge walled city you know, golds also pay tribute for kingdom.>>183184942And the part where Elf created at the same time as GS despite she is 2000 years old? God create them first & backstory later. GS back story, family and all, created after GS. They're Gods, they can do anything.>>183185013>Haruhi decided to stay at home after getting the legendary sword>Haruhi>DecidedThat is two things that doesn't belong in same sentence. She follow King's order & oracle, that's it. The reason why it'll be disaster if Devil King gets resurrected again in vol. 8 is because corrupt nobles planned to install puppet King so they can control Haruhi & let Devil King thrive. She's stupid, everyone know that.
>>183185234Not that guy but Gs is a heavily plot armoured motherfucker who would ass pull his way to victory. He’s Batman with prep time in term of plot protection. So much he does is wrong, stupid or just crazy yet he always survives to win.
>>183185234>Guild do provide training ground & housing.That’s a joke. They throw away lives more casually than the Red Army in WWII.
I was disappointed when they revealed who he really was. I thought he'd be an actual goblin that rebelled against the others and seeks out his revenge against them. Instead his backstory is very boring and he's just another boring dumb human.
>>183185234That’s not how a political system like this works. You’re just endlessly asserting that Adventurers are inherently better to the point where the same person would automatically be better if they were an Adventurer. That’s serious bullshit.Speaking of bullshit.>She follow King's order & oracle, that's itNo. >She decided to follow King's order & oracle, that's itYes. Her player can easily derail a campaign. I’ve played enough tabletop games to see a game go derailed by a single player. You talk like you’ve never even SEEN a D&D session in your life.
>>183185234>Yes, the lack of Platinum is surely a good thing.Platinum is nothing more than a rank. If Haruhi was given proper training, she’d be just as strong if not stronger than she currently is. So she’s actually weaker because she doesn’t know what she’s doing and only gets by on fugging rolls and overpowered items. Trained Haruhi > No training Haruhi > everyone Haruhi defeated
>>183185234>trainingThat’s a seriously bad joke. What training do they provide? All we’ve seen is them throwing noobs at goblin caves who don’t even know to look left and right. Their training is nonexistent.>groupingCompared to letting each trainee get killed individually? They’re even juicier individually because they have less people. Are there no walls in their training areas? Because only an incompetent organization would leave areas like training grounds so undefended.
>>183185234>She's stupid, everyone know that.As >>183185472 said, she might be smart if she was given some education or training. Even she’s a far cry from what she could become because even though she’s strong now, she could become stronger if she wasn’t just thrown at enemies to kill instead of being taught things so she knows how to kill.
>>183185360His plan quite often useless, this one for example, he prepared layer of plans for Dark Elf only for Dark Elf cast Disintegrate before the battle even begun & it was Priestess that pull miracles to save them. I'm not saying he doesn't have plot armor, but his not a keikaku-man people believe he is.>>183185432>Her player>PlayerWhat player? No real human being playing in this series. You can't derail anything if you are praying character with GM constantly wave her hand and say "She is too stupid for objection">>183185388>>183185522Vol. 6, they eventually get fund from king to build dedicated training ground. Even before, they give areas for veterans to train rookies. They get attacked from underground & almost all rookies get killed.>>183185472The character roll their stats first, background created second. If she roll high on luck & low on int, then nothing can be done about it. It's not "She didn't study that's why she is stupid", it was "She have low INT because uhh.. she born stupid & never study"Priestess might become first one that break the rule. If she didn't die first.
>>183185880 >Priestess might become first one that break the rule.She is
>>183182204you're right and that's why only nu-/a/ pseudo-critics use "self insert" as a criticism
>>183175560You don't understand what self-insert is, do you? It doesn't have to be a relatable character it can also be about wish fulfilment. Anything that is haremshit is self-insert bait. When you have 3 or more girls drooling over the MC while they pay attention to no other male characters so there is zero competition then it's haremshit which is 100% self-insert wish fulfilment.
>>183186286>Next volume will be Priestess volume.>It is more expensive than the others.>The limited edition is the most expensive bundle in this series.They know it'll sell regardless aren't they?
>>183186286>>183186989This girl is dangerous, imagine what would happen if GS dies on her now.
>>183175181>his circumstances are way too brutal and specific >So are a lot of isekai charactersWhat? Which fucking isekai 'characters'? Do you mean "BOO HOO I AM A POOR SALARYMAN THAT JUST WHINES ABOUT LIFE" or "I AM A SAD VIRGIN THAT PLAYS VIDYA ALL DAY BECUZ GIRL REJECT ME :("? What other fucking brand of isekai are you looking at that features a protagonist with a past even remotely as specific or brutal as GS?
>>183175709>Tragic backstory is fucking bread-and-butter for self-inserts, it's how you add a "character flaw" to them without actually giving them any flaws.This faggot post is the perfect example for why 90% of people that 'critique' shit on 4chan are mouthbreathing retards that never watched, read or discussed what they have the audacity to bitch about.
>>183180343You don't even understand the series. Goblin Slayer is IMMUNE TO ROLLS. This is explicitly shown and stated to be him having immunity to FATE. Normal adventurers can just get away with shit by having lucky rolls. GS has no rolls so he has to rely on his own equipment, experience and skills to survive.
>>183186989Well it's expensive because priestess picture.In addition to "Goblin Slayer 10" (Bunko), I made the illustration duplicated illustration of Mr. Noboru Kinnazuki (A3 size), limited item put in acrylic frame.The duplicate picture contains a signature serial number, and furthermore it is printed with a special technique called "primo art".◆ What is "primo art"High definition printing technology capable of outputting duplicate original images.Digital image processing using high resolution input digital image using Dai Nippon Printing color table dedicated to duplicate original image.In normal printing, four color inks (CMYK) are used, but Primo Art has a wider color gamut that can be reproduced by ten color inks than a normal printing machine, and due to its rich reproducibility, original image touch And marks of corrective fluid etc are faithfully reproduced.Even in the case of a digital original picture, it can be brought closer to RGB expression with high precision, and by using Primo Art, it is possible to output what is called "original picture" which is not present in the digital illustration.
>>183186989When is volume 10 going to drop in Nihon?
>>183187412GS is probably one of the most luckiest faggots in the entire series.
>>183188145He’s not immune to rolls through luck retard, when they say he doesn’t “roll the dice” they mean it in the sense that he doesn’t let his adventurers be decided by D&D actions that literally require rolling the dice. So he kills through shit like putting his enemy to sleep for guaranteed hits, avalanches, fall damage, dropping the ceiling, burning the nest down to the ground, drowning, etc etc. He was taught this by the Rhea since according to him all his stats were complete garbage, especially his Luck.
>>183187412So basically GS is Gary Stu
>>183188339Right, jobbing to anything not goblin is definitely the mark of a Gary Stu. Sasuga Goburin Sureiyaa-nii-sama.
>>183188425> jobbing to anything not goblin> still won> b-but he isn't Gary StuKek
>>183179258the cardboard box MC is the whole point of his character, and how preistess tries to fix it throughout the series
>>183179527>LN barely describes the rape>selling like hotcakesI just like some good old fantasy with a touch of genocide
>>183188509>still wonAlone or with the help of the actual Mary Sue?
>>183181539goblins are rapey cause it's the only way for them to reproduce and they do it so much cause they are just smarter rats with thumbs
>>183188590That is manga, LN vol 1 still doesn't break 90k after anime came out
>>183171650 The premise runs itself down in like three episodes. If you stay it's for the waifus.
>>183171650Ignoring the obvious, GS is more focused on characters than story. I mean, there's really nothing much to the world except the idea that goblins aren't the strongest creatures to fight, but they can be a nightmare to a village or a large force can make a threat. Sure, the gods are fucking around by playing D&D, that's great, but apart from those 3 ones there's nothing that really makes it stand out. The characters are unique themselves, but the backstories like Goblin Slayer himself is pretty bland from his hate for Goblins, the only real interesting part being his training. Priestess is boring, she wanted to spare goblins if they weren't bad, but GS shows it doesn't work that way and she sees it herself. I mean, there's decent characters in there, the Trainer for GS is pretty interesting because you wonder if he was actually a goblin or just an ugly guy wearing a mask or some shit.It's average overall. Wouldn't say a good adaption though.
>>183181055He was surrounded. The second he let the green midgets to flank him he was done for. The sword scene was to explain that newbies can't pick their equipment right.>>183181420He was grappled and prone, they just had to maul/stab him. No chainmail will defend against that.
>>183180449A Mary Sue doesn't get beaten you fucking idiot. GS was saved a couple of times by his friends.
>>183171972>gay scalykys furfaggot
>>183181539>The premise GS manga could have worked if it turns out that the goblins edgy behaviour is actually a recent development and prior to that they were genuinely newbie fodder.He clearly stated that. He said that there is more of them recently, we even see that new kinds started to show up, like goblin paladin.
I'm glad they did the pivot to the more light-hearted adventure shit from the dark and gory first episode. After an episode or 2 gore and violence always loses it's shock appeal and the rest of the season would have been worse. What we got definitely could have had more goburin sraying but the party interactions were nice.
>>183190049>He was surroundedI think it's worth mentioning that, in the LN, a goblin is already pouncing towards him when he suddenly struck the cave.So no, the goblin doesn't teleport, and he's swarmed after the first one caught him.
Why are her ears blushing as well??
>>183182001>What bothers me is the logistics around the fact that goblins only reproduce by raping women they kidnap.No, they can reproduce using goats or sheeps as well. The thing is they like to cause pain, to see desperation of their victims. They quicly bore of broken girls who stopped answering.
>>183185137What you talking about. I am being really reasonable.The other guy would have been beheaded by now if he was in saudi. But instead he is taking shots of whisky with his cousin that he is about to fuck.
>>183182805>when someone critisizes a series you enjoy from a stance of arrogant objectivism you should stay quiet and let them get away with it>challenging those criticisms makes you an insecure retardNo I think I'll keep pushing back. Had you explained why the series does not appeal to you personally then I probably wouldn't have replied in the first place, I acknowledge this series is not something everyone will enjoy. Any series is like that. But when you mistake your personal tastes for a measure of objective quality without making any further argument than "I don't like it so its shit" you deserve to be called out.
>>183171650no idea, the rape scene was literally nothing.i just think its boring so i dropped it 4 episodes in
Can't we all agree it's 10 times better than Shield Hero at least?
>>183191268whats wrong with shield hero?
>>183191322A lot of things. It's the same generic get bullied, acquire slave, raise slave isekai, become OP.
>>183191359Why is that wrong? sounds fun to me. Stories about OP characters are fun. Why would i read stories about average plebs?
>>183191268People compare it to GS because it's triggering SJWs but GS is actually well written while SH is a total trainwreck
>>183191426Because it's been done to death, unless you're a total brainlet then this shitty genre should've gotten stale for you
>>183191426Because it is almost competent, but consistently manages to miss every single swing while not understanding the story it tries to tell.
>>183171650>why is a harem anime polarizingI really dont get why this question has to be asked. It has a narrow target audience and is lacking in substance for other viewers. Thats it.
>>183191088Not that anon but> shit series> but it isn’t shit because it’s personal taste Kek
>>183182001It’s a game. Whenever the asshole gods want more goblins, they spawn nests, and in return human villages and adventurers spawn. It happens literally out of nowhere but generally the surroundings are retconned to make it believe. Like that one part in the LN where they question why all these frontier towns have sewer systems, then handwave that they were built by ancient dwarves or something.
>>183181656The virgin translate >>183179370The chad wild guess
>>183182309This makes me wish there was a chapter dedicated to another goblin-oriented adventurer named "Goblin Hunter" or something similar, and GS would initially be happy to have additional help, only for them to have wildly different methods that clash with eachother or GS struggling to make money because this new guy is completing goblin tasks at a faster rate than he can
>>183181025I thought there is no level in this setting and being a veteran adventurer doesn't turn you into fucking superman? The point of this grimdark setting the author trying to create is that except for fucking Haruhi, all other adventurers are still humans, who can easily be killed by a critical hit to the right places.
This thread is so shit, can we post art instead?
So did Sword Maiden actually love Gobu slayer or was she just desperate for anyone to help her PTSD?
>>183192787It's more like>Series is shit because I say so>It isn't shit because I say so
>>183181035>It's a fucking marketing strategy, if everyone can see their face, they get fame, and if they get fame, they get to have better quests and possibly raise their rankingHow about wearing special personal helmet that makes it even easier for people to recognize them?>Plus, not everyone dies to a cheap shot to a skull, especially not when they are fighting fucking trolls and dragons and ogres and bandits and shit.So big monsters and human bandits are too honorable to use cheap shots? Or flying debris from their big attacks will somehow always miss adventurers' bared head?>Wrong, the MC is strong because he is meticulous and he has guts.So all other adventurers are cowards, despite being depicted as fame seeker brave enough to not wearing helmets?
>>183181232>Gate spells do exist in DnD, what do you mean?Then why didn't anyone use this tactic before GS? Were they all mentally challenged?>when was the last time you cared about terrorist attacks on the Middle East? Never, but if a horde of literal monsters appears at the Southern borders then rapes, steals and slaughters people left and right, a state of emergency will be issued. As poor as they are, those villages are still part of the kingdom.
>>183181409>infected injuries aren't commonSo humans in this setting are all demigods who can't be harm by mundane means? Because even a simple cut can give you infection.
>>183187412No he's not. He just plans as much as possible to avoid rolling. He doesn't have some magical power, he just leaves as little to chance as he can.
>>183181537If they can't even fight something as petty as goblins, how can they deal with bigger problems? Why didn't the citizens loose all faiths on the crow already? Why did the kingdom still not collapse? Like, it's only a matter of time for a guy with tumors to die if he doesn't even have enough strength to go to the toilet to take a piss.
>>183171650No one actually thinks the show is abhorrent, its just some schmucks rocking the boat to draw retweets on twitter and make themselves feel better.
I stayed only for one thing in this anime.
>>183195338Imagine fucking her and then she falls asleep
>>183195387A pure slut
>>183193223>new guy is completing goblin tasks at a faster rate than he canGS finally can rest
>>183195458I would definetly do vanilla stuff to her desu
>>183194552Ain't the guy you were speaking with, but>Then why didn't anyone use this tactic before GS?Several reasons.>Scroll itself is an ancient artifact that could fetch a good price>Gate is considered a lost spell in the setting>You would need to hire a master in magic to set the coordinateNo one in their right mind would use more money than they make or could have for a one-time-use weapon. Fortunately, GS isn't in his right mind, so you know.>Link this to the bottom of the oceans, I want to slay goblins
>>183182149>they tend to keep the women alive for at least a couple of weeks before she dies of exhaustion.Literally how, when gobbos are depicted as comically evil little shits that can't see the big picture and get off on the suffering of others. Are you expecting them to feed their captives, treat their wound and disinfect them after every child birth? Never gonna happen, and it's a miracle any girl can survive for more than a few days in that condition, let along weeks until they can make their first delivery.
>>183195689Please anon. He is the same faggot who refuse to take any better than average weapon to a goblin lair, fearing that he can fail and the goblins will take it. So if he possessed a hyper rare, super power artifact with unrivaled power, why did his fear suddenly vanish? Didn't he consider the possibility the goblins could steal his scroll and open a portal at the bottom of the seas in the middle of a city?
>>183196052That scroll can potentially wipe out an entire nest in one go. Plus, once it’s used, it’s gone forever. The risks vs rewards were skewed in his favor, and it saved his life. On the other hand, good gear is pretty useless since you can kill them with base weapons anyways and they can’t penetrate even the cheapest armors without a sneak attack, in which case you’re fucked no matter what.
>>183196052>Didn't he consider the possibility the goblins could steal his scroll and open a portal at the bottom of the seas in the middle of a city?>goblins>in the middle of a cityYeah, if the infestation got that far, I think he won't mind.Even if we assume something like the sewer in Water Town, he has the choice of not bringing it with him, burning the scroll away rendering it obsolete, or using it before he knowingly takes a quest in the middle of a city.He's stupid, but not foolish.
>>183196052>goblins will take itIf he dead>why did his fear suddenly vanish?What fear? It's just possibility if he dead on quest>goblins could steal his scrollWhen GS sleep or what?
>>183180566>Implyed he drink himself to sleep>His vendetta and insecurities made him believe nobody would help him>will not move past killing goblins>Abused verbaly and physically by his rhea master>Fear he might die to goblins so no upgrade equipment
>>183196317>That scroll can potentially wipe out an entire nest in one go. Plus, once it’s used, it’s gone forever.There was still the possibility some goblin could make a lucky attack and take him out before he could use it. That's his entire defense for not using magical weapon. And goblins using that scroll may have devastating effect on humans, it's a risk he should never have taken.>good gear is pretty useless since you can kill them with base weapons anyways and they can’t penetrate even the cheapest armors without a sneak attackGoblins generally don't wear armors.>>183196404>Yeah, if the infestation got that far, I think he won't mind.Goblins can dig and they are bestowed with a super rare gift allowing them to always find the way to their target, as proven in the LN. It takes only one goblin to dig to the middle of the town, set off the scroll and it will be destroyed.>>183196607See above. GS always considers that one day he may die like a bitch to a goblin sucker punch.
>>183197114If you like used goods looking for a beta provider, sure, I guess she's perfection
>>183196998They can’t use the scroll to begin with unless they can recite its name so it’s worthless to them.
>>183196998I was talking about the goblins trying to penetrate armor, not the other way around. Since their weapons don’t do shit against GS’ shitty armor, better armor is not even necessary to begin with.
>>183197168Used goods means she is experienced, damaged goods is what nobody wants.
>>183196998>It takes only one goblin to dig to the middle of the town, set off the scroll and it will be destroyed.That's assuming they somehow knew the content of the scrolls before they open it. From GS' knowledge of the goblins before the DM started to increase the difficulty, that's nothing a goblin should be capable of. If he knew they're capable of understanding the content of the scroll without opening it - and thus triggering the spell - then yes he'd likely won't use it.
>>183197284They can keep it until they find someone who can do that for them or until they learn it somehow.>>183197333I am talking about a magical sword that doesn't become dull after 5 stabs, not armor.
>>183197499>I am talking about a magical sword that doesn't become dull after 5 stabs, not armor.Those weapons are incredibly rare and to acquire one he need to do a decent amount of non-goblin quests which would go against his entire purpose>>183197499There’s nobody else who would be able to tell, only GS and the witch knew what was actually in the scroll. A sufficiently advanced mage would probably be able to distinguish it as well but those types never go into goblin nests to begin with.
>>183197586>Those weapons are incredibly rare and to acquire one he need to do a decent amount of non-goblin quests which would go against his entire purposeNo one forces him to buy it. He can take it by force from some rich fuck uses it as a decoration or an unsuspected adventurer and cover his track carefully. After all, he is an sociopath who isn't bounded by morals.>A sufficiently advanced mage would probably be able to distinguish it as well but those types never go into goblin nests to begin with.The possibility for that to happen is slim, but not zero. As paranoid as GS is, he couldn't have abandon this possibility entirely and be absolutely confident that no way the goblins could use it.
>>183185400>I thought he'd be an actual goblin that rebelled against the othersOr two goblins sitting on each other's shoulder.
>>183196998>See aboveSee my post "dead"
>>183197897>After all, he is an sociopath who isn't bounded by morals.He really isn’t. He’s fundamentally a good person and there is much evidence for this.>The possibility for that to happen is slim, but not zero. As paranoid as GS is, he couldn't have abandon this possibility entirely and be absolutely confident that no way the goblins could use it.The chance of a goblin capturing a high level mage like Witch is just about as likely as them capturing a silver rank like guts or spearman. It’s something that GS has most definitely never before seen happen in all his time goblin questing so it’s reasonable that he would not think of this ridiculous scenario. If he ever did find a quest with strong enough goblins to accomplish it, he’d likely use the scroll on them before he gave them the chance.
>>183197897>No one forces him to buy it.No one force him to steal it.>he is an sociopath who isn't bounded by morals.He still respect other opinions
>>183187267>You can't self-insert into and autistic (but supposedly cool, according to the author) character with grimdark edgy past
>>183187412>Goblin Slayer is IMMUNE TO ROLLS.He is not, you imbecile. The LN clearly stated he was just extremely careful and made the luck factor become as small as possible when planning. He is simply just a man who hates gamble. He has no supernatural power to resist fate.
>>183171650>wish fulfilmentyeah bro. i, too, wish for my friends and family to be butchered in front of me.
>>183193487She mistakes dependency for love.
>>183193487She is insane.
>>183198398>It’s something that GS has most definitely never before seen happen in all his time goblin questing so it’s reasonable that he would not think of this ridiculous scenarioOne of his key characteristic is his paranoia. Are you telling me he just abandoned it to pursue common sense when it became convenient for the plot?> If he ever did find a quest with strong enough goblins to accomplish it, he’d likely use the scroll on them before he gave them the chance.A strong enough goblin will likely kill him before he can do anything.
>>183198462If he is so obsessed with killing goblin, stealing weapons to do it should be a logical conclusion.
>>183198715You will, if it makes you look cool and all bitches fall for you.
>>183176689Knowing the artist the GS is going to use that sword.
>>183199016>stealing weaponsHe steal goblin weapons
>>183199120Why not steal other adventurers' weapons, which are better?
>>183199212He can barely beat the Scumbag Rhea without dirty tricks, do you think facing against someone like Lancer would end well for him?
>>183199212He respect other.
>>183199275>LancerHe can offer him a toast with poison in it.
I want to fug priestess when she turns 18
>>183200628She already 18-1