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Let's be honest. Hunter x Hunter is fucking terrible. It had potential but Togashi has completely squandered it since he stopped giving a shit a long time ago. And all the faggots who defend Togashi's laziness are deluding themselves by saying that "It'll be good eventually." Hunter x Hunter sucks and Togashi is a has-been who hasn't done anything really good since Yu Yu Hakusho.
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>>181702872
all I know is it's main protagonist is literally kid goku
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It's also fujobait
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>>181702872
*sigh*
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>>181702872
Is this a new pasta?
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here we fucking go
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>>181703299
If you want it to be.
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>>181703272
Are HxHfags so insecure that they immediately assume that people who criticize their favorite manga are wanpissfags? For the record, One-Piece is shit too ever since the timeskip.
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>>181702872
I'll actually agree to an extent. Pretty much everything adapted in the anime was great to me. But my biggest problem with the series was with how it handled explaining shit. And although I haven't been keeping up with the manga, those pages from the recent chapters are inexcusable. It doesn't matter if cool shit happens eventually. If 90% of the series is just uninteresting exposition, that still means only 10% of it is good.

So yeah, the series is pretty great up until Gon meets his dad.
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>>181702872
>>181703197
>>181703693
>>181703799
t. shonentards
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>>181704064
Lemme guess... You're one of those retards who unironically believes that HxH is a seinen manga even though it clearly is a part of Weekly SHONEN Jump.
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>>181704064
>dude HxH is so high IQ it takes all these shonen troupes and blatantly plagiarizes lmao
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>>181702872
>HxH/One Piece/BnHA is terrible bait threads are still allowed

Why is it? Don't even pretend that someone would start a thread like that to actually discuss the series. It's only meaningless shit flinging.
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I think it's a cool and interesting series. You're probably just bitter and feel the need to complain about things you have no real grudge against because you hate yourself so much. I guess I feel sorry for you. That or you're really autistic and think anybody cares you can regurgitate negative things about the series you've seen posted here before.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=665wyOI1IHg
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>>181702872
Nice try, but YYH is crap and HxH is leagues better.
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>>181704703
"Reee censorship, reee babies getting offended, reee the site is dead"

It just turns series hostility into site hostility. Why would janitors actually bother with that?
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>>181702872
ITT: Low IQ posters
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>>181704805
At least yu yu hakusho was consistently good.
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Hunter x Hunter is objectively good, but has its flaws.
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>>181705680
First and last arcs were shit
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Pitou is the best girl and is my wife
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>>181706090
You are the best girl and also my wife, anon!
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>>181704143
HxH is a shonen-seinen hybrid.
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>>181706654
Kill yourself.
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>>181706090
>girl
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>>181706758
>HxH is a soft-seinen.
Better now?
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>>181702872
Impressive you entire argument boils down to hiatus, that says nothing of it's quality. Let's be honest you are just a lowly shitposter.
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>>181702872
I'm excited to see what new skill Gon learns in the future to replace his Rock-Paper-Scissors skillset once he gets his nen back, and sets his goal to be one of the Zodiacs
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>>181703693
>You're one of those guys who refused to watch Shippuden too because it wasnt the same.

Just admit you can't grow up like characters do.
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>>181705783
First arc was the only good arc.
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>>181702872
You're just thirsty Wan Piss drinker
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>>181708028
Seinen isn't a genre, retard
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>>181702872
Another HxH thread filled with seething shonenbabies.
Even on hiatus.
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>>181709141
Yes it is, retard.
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>>181702872
Factually true but Togashi has conditioned his brainwashed low IQ drones to be incapable of critiquing his work.

They are battered housewives who accept his shit writing since he can do no wrong.
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>>181709141
Don't fall for the bait
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>>181709215
Hunterchads are living rent free in their heads, it's almost like a tradition on /a/.
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>>181709141
Imagine being such a dumb cunt that you think Seinen is a demographic when more than 50% of Jump's readership is over the age of 25, when OP's readership is between 25 and 50, when all the major japanese and western websites that sell manga and anime categorize seinen and shounen under genre and when every single website about anime and manga lists seinen and shounen as genres.
Fucking kill yourself, you faggot.
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>>181709419
I wish my favorite manga was as masterful as HxH.
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>>181702872
I dropped it at some point during chimera ants arc, shit got so stale, they kept recycling characters.
Also hated how being a hunter means nothing. It was the most overhyped thing ever and felt like the equivalent of being a federal alchemist in FMA. I thought the characters would get a lot of advantages and such but no, nothing changed, biggest disappointment ever.
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its a good series but the chimera ant arc kinda ruined it. we never really got to explore the world or hunt anything after the exam
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>>181709519
What's your favorite manga?
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>>181709438
Pretty much this. There's obviously two meanings to the word in vernacular. One is the demographic and the other is a distinct and very prevalent type of genre that's essentially the hero's journey on crack. You're a moron if you think the usage of the word shounen is only applied to the former.
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>>181709538
Gon was hunting his dad. That made him a Hunter Hunter.
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>>181709215
>>181709419
BASED
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>>181709542
Gantz
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>>181709438
>>181709573
>hxh is seinen
Hunlets are low IQ subhumans confirmed.

Still struggling to COPE with their kiddie comic being less mature than moeshit.
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>>181709713
>40 chapters without any battles
>No MC
>No Nakama bullshit
>You literally need a triple digit IQ to understand the plot
How is HxH shounen, specially this arc?
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>>181709728
t. pleb
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>>181709663
Digital drawings look trash.
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>>181709782
>40 chapters without any battles
Retard double confirmed.

>No MC
Hurrrrrr Durrrrrr who Pika???

>No Nakama bullshit
Halkenburgh the literal nakama powered Quincy

>You literally need a triple digit IQ to understand the plot
Huntlets confirmed brain dead shonenbabbys with a mental capacity blow that of underaged nips.
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>>181709952
Togashi uses digital drawings now. Nice self-BTFO huntardNPC!

top kek
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>>181710027
yeah, one doubled spread wow in like what 390 chapters?
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>>181710000
>mfw one of these days my shitposts will give this autist a heart attack
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>>181710070
>get BTFO online
>"it w-was just b-bait!!"
Another Hunterbeta fucked into submission.
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Halkenburgh is the strongest prince because muh nakama powers. I thought HxH wasn't generic shonenshit. Fags? Defense?
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>>181708892
>implying Naruto didn't turn into dogshit after the chuunin exams
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>>181708028
No. HxH isn't seinen at all. It's shonen. Kill yourself.
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>>181710255
>Halkenburg
>strongest Prince
brainlet
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>>181710356
Here educate yourself >>181709438 >>181709573
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HxH is great, but fuck Togashi for dangling the potential Dark Continent arc in front of us and then taking years to finish the fucking boat arc.
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>>181709782
That just means that it's a failed and poorly written shonen.
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>>181708254
Time to post this again.
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>>181710402
This arc is more important from an historic point of view. So of course he'll take his time so that he can change the history of manga forever. Compared to that the DC arc is irrelevant.
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>>181710443
And this.
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>>181710443
What now?
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I want to impregnate Pitou and take responsibility
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>>181710485
post your other 2 pages
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>>181710408
t. low IQ shounenfag who wants to see the MC beat the bad guy then eat meat and sing songs
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>>181710540
I want to impregnate you and take responsibility, anon!!
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>>181710542
based
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>>181710542
>garbage clusterfuck

>>181710513
>autistic damage control collage
not an argument

hunterspics are the most sensitive of shonentards
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>>181710644
Name one author who paid an homage to himself. Togashi is miles above any other writer, it's honestly insane.
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>>181710644
>using the diet version
Togashi ran out of ideas for this story after Yorkshin it’s been all downhill.
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>>181710758
Togashi is a genius when it comes to writing and foreshadowing. He knows not to abandon good ideas and use them in the future, but make them even better. No other mangaka comes close to him in this aspect.
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name a worse shonentard shit series with writing worse than HunterxHunter you can't.
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>>181710863
one piece, fma, naruto, bleach, hnk, hni, nnt, mha etc. i could go on and on buddy
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>>181710552
>It's a seething Huntard in denial over criticisms of his favorite shonen manga which he thinks is seinen episode
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I want to have my first kiss with Pitou!
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>>181709782
>You literally need a triple digit IQ to understand the plot
And people thought we were joking when we said that Huntards are the Rick and Morty fans of anime.
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>>181710912
>which he thinks is seinen
So wiki is also lying or what?
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>>181710892
>HxH gets outsold by SnK which comes out a decade later
I don't think anything could be worse than HxH. It's the Fairy Tale of current Jump.
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>>181710513
>tl;dr autistic damage control
Like fucking clockwork. Sasuga Huntards.
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>>181710999
Trips prove how desperate autistic huntards are to BTFO themselves with edited wiki pages
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>>181711052
>hxh hater confirmed to be an illiterate
Just tell us that you can't read, anon.
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>>181710542
>Tries to defend a page with nothing but words by posting pages with EVEN MORE WORDS
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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I would like HxH fanbase if it wasn't for the cancerigenous pitoufags...
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>>181711062
>BTFO themselves with edited wiki pages
uhm sweetie, you do realize that haters edited that page right?
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>>181710999
>huntardNPC has ONE JOB
>cant do it
Nice italics retard
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>>181711134
>no u

>>181710818
the fact black clover has better writing and foreshadowing than hxh just shows you how shit togashi is.
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>>181711097
If I can't read, then how can I write this post and reply to you? Answer that, dipshit.
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>>181711193
cloverchads and hunterchads are bros, don't falseflag to start a war between them
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>>181710999
>editing and screencapping the Wikipedia page
Can Huntlets get any more fucking pathetic?
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>>181709782
>>181710997
To be fair...

You have to have a very high IQ to understand HunterXHunter. The theming is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Nen’s mechanics, most of the fights will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Gon’s unique outlook on morality, which is deftly woven into his characterization - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Machiavelli's The Prince, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these characters and battles, to realize that they’re not just epic or cool- they say something deep about LIFE in this rich, vibrant world Togashi has created. As a consequence people who dislike HunterXHunter truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the subtlety and drama in Killua overcoming his own hesitation and growing as a character by ripping his brother’s controlling needle out of his head, which itself is a brilliant parallel to the writings of Takuhan Soho. I’m smirking right now, just imagining one of those blockheaded neckbeards scratching their heads in confusion as Togashi’s genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools… how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Hunter x Hunter tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 Transmutation Levels of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
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Hunter x Hunter > YYH from a clear writing standpoint

Chapter Black > Dark Tournament, only nostalgia/childhood Toonami fags think DT is the best

Chapter Black could have been 10/10 but Togashi committed his worst asspulls in any of his manga ever in the end of chapter Black arc

Toguro is probably a better villain than Sensui though because Sensui wasn't explored enough
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YYH had better artstyle in my opinion.
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HxH is still in the "the majority of it is pretty great" group. but every new chapter takes a chunk out of it atm, so right now its still pretty great overall, the current arc is just boring.
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>>181711760
>huntardNPCS are retarded enough to believe this.
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>>181711760
>Togashi committed his worst asspulls in any of his manga ever
No asspulls in shonen get worse than HxH.
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>>181711894
That's because Togashi was actually trying back then. Unlike now.
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>>181711898
Go rewatch YYH, the writing isn't very good at many points where HxH writing is very consistent and relies on very few ACTUAL asspulls whereas YYH is littered with asspulls

Togashi even had a trend going in early YYH where if he was doing something asspully he'd draw a cute girl in the same panel to take your mind off the asspull. If he didn't stop that trend we'd have over 50+ cute girl panels in YYH because so many fights rely on asspulls. It was the early 90s though and doing something asspully during a fight was considered "cool" so it's excusable but even if it's fun, it's still poor writing
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>>181711760
You shut your whore mouth. Mazoku Yusuke was the hypest shit back then.
https://youtu.be/i9F9SI9yq8c
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>>181710644
add this to the chart

YYH had Zushi chapters in it but only in the manga
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>>181702872
I think the series would have been better if it were just based around the Zoldyck family. Them and Netero were probably the best things going for the series. The spiders had promise but it all fell apart to early.
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chimera ant arc saga is fucking retarded.

The nuke poison, the gon´s power up, the loli shenron, Kite reincarnated in loli
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>>181712099
I was buying the Funimation DvDs at Best Buy as they were releasing because it was uncut and way ahead of toonami (because I didn't have internet back then and couldn't just watch jab subs online) and I actually dropped the show and stopped buying the DVDs after yusuke's "o my demon heart" because I was so turned off by that asspull. I didn't finish the last 20 episodes of YYH till like 10 years later

I really liked YYH because it did a good job of not being DBZ but then demon heart came out of nowhere and the power level fight was the definition of "ughh" even though sensuis beatdown was pretty good. I can accept it for what it is today and kind of enjoy it but even as a 12 year old I was absolutely disgusted during those last few episodes of chapter black because I was losing every minute of sensui vs yusuke in the cave

I would have much preferred that sensui not had been so powerful, maybe yusuke still actually dying for good and being brought back later and having a weakened sensui be finished off by kuwa/kurama/hiei

Still, I don't blame Togashi for how that arc ended, I think Weekly Shonen Jump editors were controlling the direction of YYH near the end which is why Togashi finished the series so fast after chapter black
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>>181711241
I still can't tell if the term "Hunterchad" is used ironically for shitposting or unironically by actual HxHfags to self fellate their sense of unwarranted self importance. To be fair, it could be both.
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>>181712048
The writing of HxH will never be as good as YYH. It has too many asspulls and errors to come back from. Which is why it will never have any awards, unlike YYH. Nobody cares about the autistic ramblings of a neckbeard incel who has no say in history.
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Hisoka is a good boy.
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>>181712099
THIS was the very last page in the last chapter of YYH, you can tell Togashi's mental state was pretty bad during the end of YYH. Imagine following the YYH manga and seeing this as the final page/ending to the series. WSJ editors wanted YYH to be milked and be the next DBZ since that was wrapping up and I think Togashi did a great job ending the series the way he did even if the end of it was rushed and a little underwhelming but I blame WSJ for YYH being so strange at the end because they were actively rejecting ideas Togashi had for how he wanted to continue the series. Togashi did good with HxH because he got to / gets to continue the series on his terms and create gold instead of formulated dirt that WSJ wanted to peddle back then
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>>181712502
God that reminds me of buying VHS and DVDs in the early 00s. Back when paying $40-$60 for a 2 episode VHS was a thing.
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>>181712623
>HxH has too many asspulls

name 10

I can probably name about 50 from YYH though I'd really prefer to not spend the time doing that. I also love YYH, it's one of my favorite series and for its time it was very good and still holds up well imo, but I imagine that when YOU watch YYH you don't even notice the asspulls or are blind to them even though they're fucking everywhere
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>>181712664
You are a good boy, anon!
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>>181712048
>very few ACTUAL asspulls
What are those so called asspulls in HxH?
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>>181711962
so untrue, most shonen series rely on dozens to hundreds of asspulls, even minor ones that you probably don't notice, meanwhile HxH has like 5 real debateable asspulls and a couple more minor ones and people that don't like HxH shine a magnifying glass on them and consider them such grave offenses while every other shonen series just gets a pass on all their asspulls because fanboys think their favorite series are EPIC AS FUCK and just don't even notice the asspulls because asspulls are built in and integral to most shonen and the writers wouldn't be able to continue their mangas without relying on all the minor / major offenses in their own series.

Also, I don't give a fuck about who likes what shonen or what anyones favorite it is, almost all shonen are good in their own right but if you cant see that HxH is clear as daylight much higher quality writing than other series then your fucking glasses are scuffed and you're a brainlet.

I'm also not gonna be a high IQ rick and morty = HxH dingus, HxH isn't the best thing ever, it's just a really good series with consistent writing though people it might not be a good series for people with ADHD or powerlevel fags or fanboys of other series
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>>181712903
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>>181702872
It seems like all the battle shonen fags get triggered by Hunter x Hunter for its deconstruction of power ups genre.

Listen up children, there's room for infinite amount of anime of all kinds. Just because Hunter x Hunter is more mature than your wanpiss or nurutu, doesn't mean you have to hate it.
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>>181713306
>5 asspulls
Name them and see me debunk each one of them.
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>>181712815
>tfw was at blockbuster one day with my mom back when I was buying the YYH dvds era
>saw they had "Yu Yu Hakusho Poltergeist Report" movie there
>didn't even know there was a YYH movie
>was excited as hell to watch it
>turn it on
>"what the fuck is this..."

turns out the movie was dubbed by some other studio and not the funimation cast that I was so used to and loved. Didn't even watch more than 15 minutes of it because the voices through me off too much
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>>181713491
Whatever helps you sleep at night HunterNPCkun.
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>>181713500
Fucking based, i could imagine that you are a gonposter.
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>>181713491
based hunterchad
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>>181713779
Nah, just a magician who wishes to remain anonymous.
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>>181713502
The same thing happened to me except with the Rurouni Kenshin movie. I followed the Bang Zoom! dub and had no idea about the Sony/ADV dub. It was jarring as fuck.
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>>181713888
Based and intimidating, nice trips.
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>>181713491
How does it deconstruct it
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>>181713500
killua's head needle before rammot was half a second away from ripping his head off. Togashi could have found a better delivery method for that but instead killua just knew that

gon-san is only like, 30-40% asspull but it's not considered an asspull by itself, the asspull part comes from nanika being written in, getting full healed by nanika, AND getting his arm back AGAIN. Even if he temporarily lost his nen, gon getting his arm back again after getting his hand back before from breath of asspull. For everything Gon has been through, and the limbs he's lost, I REALLY don't like that he's back in perfect right now even if his nen is gone for now. It's total blueballs shit and Togashi could have left a better lasting impact if our MCs ever actually got some real injuries. Everything in that paragraph tied together just adds up to an asspull man, I won't count many things as individual asspulls but there's just a string of minor things that lead to underwhelming payoffs

kurapika vs uvogin is pretty fucking bullshit, and there's A LOT of "on-the-spot" writing for how kurapika gets to beat a near gon-san tier enhancer and gets to heal his broken arm

I didn't like that Gon could hold his breath for 10 minutes and carry 400lbs of deadweight out of a cave during the hunter exam

Call it all what you will man, asspull may not be the best word for everything but Togashi does some underwhelming sometimes. Pouf was another "on the spot" character where Togashi used him to set up a handful of confrontations with powers that us as viewers didn't know about until the moment it happened, like changing his voice to komugis voice to trick Pitou was another "wtf" moment
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>>181702872
Hunter X Hunter is legitimately a masterpiece that still has yet to be surpassed.
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>>181714190
Killua having a needle in his head was evident to everyone when Illumi used manipulation to control him during the Hunter Exam. All the hints were there to show that Illuma was exercising some kind of control on Killua. And what is Illumi's power? Needles. So everyone with half a brain knew that he used a needle to control him. Killua took it out during the fight with Rammoth because he couldn't flee and abandon a nenless Gon. It was do or die for Killua.

Animeonlyfag. Killua's wish was "bring back gon to how he was before", thats the literal translation from the Japanese. If Alluka can restore nails then it can restore arms too. How the fuck is this an asspull? Also what you said about "30-40%" asspull makes you sound like you're mentally inept.

Condition and Restrictions make your nen stronger, it was explained by Wing during HA. Powerlevels dont matter in HxH, only a good strategy is important.

Gon being able to perform such feats isn't an asspull. Do you even know what asspull means? Goku flying on a cloud is an asspull too?

If Pouf can separate his cells to a billionth of his size, then it makes sense that he's able to change his appearance or his vocal chords.
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>>181714190
oh, I forgot to add Kites crazy slot wand. The explanation being "o hey gon, btw, kite has an ability he uses when he doesn't want to die and it lets him reincarnate without being fed to the queen ant". The only way that wasn't an asspull is if Kites brain got eaten off-panel BUT it wasn't. Explain that away man.

Election arc was just kind of a mess in the blueballs category mate. Togashi just rushed out a happy ending for the 2011 anime and jumped through a lot of hoops and pulled a lot of crap for 2011 to be real neat and clean at the end but some of the stuff in the election arc took away a lot of what would have been lasting impact from the chimera arc, instead it weakens the overall strength of Chimera Arc and makes election arc pretty weak even if the actual election part was pretty fun.

There's also Hisoka vs Kastro. Yeah, Kastro, a nen master, not using Gyo...c'mon man. I know Machi explains that part away and the actual fight is a lot of fun and the explanation for how Hisoka did everything was good but, KASTRO DIDNT KNOW GYO??!!?
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>>181714496
You're not really doing a good job debunking me, you're just excusing underwhelming writing. Don't get me wrong I love HxH and look forward to reading it and you're entitled to your own opinion but, I think you're fanboying a little too hard to defend some weak writing. Togashi's a phenomenal and HxH is the best shonen out there but, go google blue balls
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>>181714566
Remember when Pitou told Meruem that the brain is the most delicious part of a human? That was a hint to tell us that she gave Kite's brian to the queen.

3 lines about the Election arc and not even one (1) legit critic, just your worthless opinion that nobody gives a shit about.

Kastro is clearly not a nen master, you can tell by how he used his nen categories in the wrong ways developing skills that are not compatible with each other. Wing-san said this too. He was just a good fighter for the Arena, but not a nen master. Hisoka's mind games were enough to throw him off.
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>>181714743
Where is your counter-argument to what I said? If you don't have anything to say just be quiet. Don't act like a child.
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>>181714496
Based
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>>181714496
the "30-40%" thing was meant as a joke my friend. There's just a lot of things added up in Gons power-up and full restore that can be equated to an asspull and it's really anyone's opinion on how they see those turns of events wether they want to call it an asspull, or if they want to defend it to the death and call it perfect epic writing like you do.
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>>181714926
>There's just a lot of things added up in Gons power-up and full restore that can be equated to an asspull
Name them
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>>181714926
Read this and be quiet, child.
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>>181714810
Whatever chucklefuck, suck Togashi's dick some more. I like HxH too but cant defend all the blueballs he gave me and many others even if HxH reaches real heights of greatness

>>181715019
>Name them.

already did

>Remember when Pitou told Meruem that the brain is the most delicious part of a human? That was a hint to tell us that she gave Kite's brian to the queen.

Give me a break man, you're jumping through hoops to explain things away on almost every explanation you give just to try explaining things away and fitting it into your headcanon. We're done here, you want to argue just for the sake of arguing and the way you defend every little that wasn't given a proper explanation is just you fanboying. HxH is still the best shonen series out there but you won't even budge or admit that it has its fair share of weak moments even if it's 90% full of strong material. We're done here, have a good day.
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>>181715120
I never called Gon-san an asspull, just part of bundle of things that adds up into something underwhelming and could have had better payoffs had Togashi been willing to go hard instead of soft
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>>181715222
Next time you better think twice before using the word "asspull", kiddo.
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>>181715332
Just because you wanted Gon to die, it doesn't mean its an asspull. Things make perfect narrative sense and there are no plotholes whatosoever. Everything followed a logical conclusion.
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>>181715382
based payaso
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>>181715382
I feel like "asspull" is just a more polite and comical way to say "meh writing". I'm no author, I could never create something as good as HxH, I just think truly believe HxH is 1 of the best series out there and it could have been even better had Togashi done things differently at certain parts
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>>181715513
If he tried to do something different, it would need to make sense with what he wrote before or what he is going to write in the future. For HxH to be a masterpiece, everything has to be left how it is, change one variable and the whole equation falls apart.
What do you think HxH fans do during the hiatus? They go and re-read the manga to see if everything is in order, and in the 20 years that HxH has been running, there was nothing out of order and everything makes perfect sense.
Kill Gon, then you have to re-write Killua's character arc and Ging's motivations and actions.
Kill Kite and then you'll have to re-write Gon's character arc and how he'd act after getting healed.
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>>181715513
Complaining about "asspulls" is for people who are too pleb and stupid to figure out what they actually dislike about the series or what criticisms they can make about the writing.
People (read: shonenfags) have just latched onto it as the defining factor of bad writing because it's typically been a symptom of a writer running out of ideas after a long publishing run, so they're usually not interesting or meaningful. That is clearly not the case for HxH since every supposed asspull has been thoroughly developed and show a shitload of thought put into them (Alluka), with her borderline meta character arc and being tied to focal point of the current arc (Dark Continent).

Alluka COULD be used for bad plot developments. Keyword: could. But Killua doesn't want to use her and her future role in the series is going to be very dependent on how Togashi writes her situation. She's a calamity, she probably isn't going to function as a wishing machine with no drawbacks no matter what assumptions we can make from the little we've seen of her.

Narratively, fixing Gon was justified and balanced because we had significant conflict building up to it, it has a thematic purpose and he is no longer the main character of even part of the current plot at all.
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>>181715471
I never said HxH has plotholes, it really doesn't besides Kastro not knowing Gyo.
>>181715471
I didn't want Gon to die, I just wanted to see him be maimed a little after everything, y'know? He was still able to jajenken even after missing an arm so there's wasn't a real need to restore it. My main problem with HxH (and most other series to a higher degree) is myself and many other like there to stakes in what they're reading/watching, but many times Togashi has taken the route of high stakes moment that later get excused by some new plot convenience and it just lowers the overall stakes of the manga and makes it a real 50/50 on wether I should ever feel worried for the characters because Togashi has been an expert at really putting a character into a real bad condition / situation but then he bails them with something underwhelming. Just my two cents, I don't have a problem with it and accept it for what it is, but I'd give the Election Arc like a 4 or 5/10 just because Togashi upped the stakes with the hypest shit of all time and then went from 100 to 0 with some real plot conveniences

inb4
>muh steaks
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>>181703799
So the entire anime is great?
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>>181715860
based neteroposter
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>>181703144
Even his rock paper scissor style is stolen wholesale from Dragon Ball, it's fucking shameless.
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>>181716066
deconstructing a well-known protag ≠ stealing the ideas

But you are a shonenbaby, so you probably won't understand.
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>>181715863
Gon, Killua and Bisky had a plan when they fought the Bomber. They weren't going to risk it, thats why they brought Breath of Archangel. We knew about this card before the Gon vs Genthru fight, so after seeing his arm get blown off, everyone could immediately think that they'd use that card to restore him. That moment was important to showcase how insane and crazy Gon can get and it was a foreshadow to what he was going to do in the CA arc. That's the importance of that moment from a narrative point.

I get your main concern, you want important characters to die. Wouldn't you consider Komugi, Pitou, Youpi, Pouf and Meruem important? They were part of HxH for almost 10 years.
Gon dying in the Election arc wouldn't have solved anything. It would have changed HxH for the worse. We woldn't get a DC arc or a boat arc. Gon getting healed is directly related to Nanika which was used as a vector to introduce the calamities of the DC.
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>>181705729
>objectively
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>>181716375
You're a national treasure anon!
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>>181716134
>I get your main concern, you want important characters to die

no I don't, never said that, didn't want Gon to die either
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>>181716128
>deconstructing a well-known protag ≠ stealing the ideas
How the fuck is pic related a "deconstruction"? HxHfags are the goddamn worst, holy shit.
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>>181715860
I'd say you should watch the reaction mashup videos on youtube to important parts of episodes to see how underwhelmed viewers are at certain parts. Our opinions here on 4chan mean very little but I'm not alone in having blue balls a lot even if I already 100%, and I mean 100% understand Togashi wrote things the way he did. I don't really need your explanations on how things fit the narrative because I already know that
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>>181716547
You know that DB didn't invent rock-paper-scissors, right?
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>>181716618
>my opinions are based on how youtubers react to the anime
I sincerely mean this. Stop reading HxH, you don't deserve it.
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>>181716618
>you should watch the reaction mashup videos on youtube
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>>181711209
if you can read then refute it.
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>>181716627
>Gon is supposed to be a "deconstruction" of Goku
>but the style he blatantly rips off him is a total coincidence
Do you faggots even hear yourselves?
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>>181716906
Again, rock paper scissor wasn't invented by DB. Its thousands of years old.
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>>181716776
Hey guys, you might enjoy the reaction mashup videos. I watched the whole series through them. I don't watch them for peoples opinions, I watched them because I enjoyed seeing other people enjoy watching HxH. It's fun how blown away some people are by HxH. Take a look

https://youtu.be/XjvjgsjIAk0?t=519

Also, while watching the reactions, it's only observations when people are underwhelmed or overjoyed by certain moments
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>>181717034
Kill yourself.
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>>181710763
>reaching this hard
most of those are barely related.
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>>181717023
What the fuck does that have to do with it you goddamn inbred? It's still a style that he uses to fight with and is clearly taken from DB, you're just arbitrarily moving the goalposts here.
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>>181717148
>is clearly taken from DB
proof?
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>>181716906
>what would you do with a brain if you had one?
Read hunter x hunter of course
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>>181717064
Take your own advice faggot. Give me one good reason why it's bad to see other people enjoy something you also enjoy? Having already seen something before it can be fun to see someone else with new eyes watch something. It's like telling a joke or showing something you like to a friend, but you probably don't have friends because you're a child who tells people to kill themselves on the internet just because they found enjoyment in something that they disagree with for no good reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwRxgUuNY-k
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>>181717268
You disgust me.
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>>181717216
I already gave you proof you obtuse retard >>181716547, the fuck do you even want at this point? A confession from Togashi himself?
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>>181717545
It's an obscure attack people barely remember. I mean when was the last time Goku even used that shit?
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>>181717481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI

here's a good one
https://youtu.be/k6rGzHQNsPQ?t=340
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>>181717545
>>181716627
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>she sees your nen
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>>181702872
I think it's more interesting than most series that run for as many chapters as HXH has. Even the current arc has a lot of interesting gears turning in it, but I can't help but think Togashi has lost his mind or stalling with the number of characters.

HXH's biggest issue is the art. Sometimes it's good, but it mostly sucks. YYH was inconsistent but it was often well-composed and had an interesting grit to it. HXH looks like rough drafts.
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>>181717481
https://youtu.be/NqZ-EHp2yDs?t=1028

https://youtu.be/1c6i8RBcuE4?t=509

https://youtu.be/bJPZ8lgQ64A?t=732
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>>181717624
It's still an obvious allusion to DB. Togashi is a big fan of DB and Toriyama. See also: Meruem. It's not surprising.
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>>181717898
>It's still an obvious allusion to DB
Nice fanfiction. Meanwhile, if you read the manga, Togashi explicitly explains where he took it from and it's not DB.
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>>181717034
>>181717268
>>181717625
>>181717813
YIKES
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>>181717813
sucks, a lot of the good mashups got removed from youtube and we only got some shitty watermarked ones now

https://youtu.be/3RVtMWBww_s?t=623
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>>181717997
oh relax, it's fun. What else you got to do while lurking HxH threads during hiatus?

https://youtu.be/97Hmd8djGgk?t=355
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I wish I had that faggot who keeps spamming youtube reaction links in front of me right now.
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>>181717987
>Togashi explicitly explains where he took it from
Where's that? I've read the manga but admittedly didn't always take note of Togashi's introductions.
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>>181718096
BASED ANGRY GONPOSTER
I thought you were gone after the last chapter bro
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>>181718137
I've been intimidating manlets on /fit/
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>>181718096
watcha gonna do kid? Keep your HxH thread tab open so you can see 2 pitou posts on your clover icon every 30 minutes?
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>>181718191
based and /fit/pilled, the fags over there think they are hot shit
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>>181718115
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>>181718191
here's some Togashi fuel for your manlet posting
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>>181716375
I wanna lick Pitou's dick
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>>181718369
i wanna lick pitou's feet
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>>181718297
Ah, right. I didn't take that as anything more than obvious justification/explication. It still seems like an obvious DB reference in a manga full of them.
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>>181718433
>>181718369
i wanna lick pitou's sweat
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>>181718191
Based. As for my part, i've been teaching /lit/fags about the works of Togashi and how they should be treated with respect.
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>>181718478
OH MY GOD IT'S SO JUICY
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I want to smell Pitou's socks
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>>181718568
I want to smell your socks, anon!
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>>181718483
Ha! I have unironically discussed HxH in the philosophy threads in /his/
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>>181718483
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>>181718662
Very delightful. Let me guess: You guys talked about Netero personhood and how well Togashi established his character to prove that Kierkegaard's nature of despair was superior to Nietzsche's right, that a human capable of despair is superior to one who can not comprehend it (Meruem) right?
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>>181717624
If anything that makes it even more damning, of course a hack would take something hardly anyone knows about and claim it as his own.
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>>181718568
idk man, trapped in those loafers without being washed even once for months. Even as a footfag they might be too ranic for me though i'd still prolly take a sniff just to see
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>>181718851
Most people on /lit/ are brainlets, they think Evangelion and Punpun are the best that this media has to offer. Some of them do recognize HxH as masterpiece with deep literary values.
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>>181719142
What fools...just dab on them.
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Hunterchads, what have you been or planning on reading during this hiatus?
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is belerainte really hisoka?>
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>>181702872
togashi can't into design for good
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>>181703299
>every critic is a pasta
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>>181706090
>furry
into the trash it goes
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>>181711569
This
Only smarts fellas can understand and truly appreciate the masterpiece that is hxh. This series is the rick and morty of seinen.
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>>181713371
MY
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>>181702872
Yes, he's slacking off in the art department. Other than that your text vomit didn't really contain any other actual criticisms.
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Hunterfags are easily the most cancerous, insufferable motherfuckers on this board.
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When did hunterchads overcome dragonball superspics as the true chads of /a/?
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>>181718096
based
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>>181721745
He is slacking on the writting too. There are too much asspulls in this series.
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>>181711569
this but unironically
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>>181710948
I want to have my first kiss with you. anon!!
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>>181721945
see
>>181713306
There are only like one or two real asspulls in HxH compared to the many, many, asspulls that are ingrained into other shonen.
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>>181722149
see
>>181714190
>>181714566
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>>181722502
see >>181714496

The guy you referenced already admitted that he was conflating "asspulls" with what he thought was "meh writing", so even he doesn't think most of his examples are asspulls.
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>>181721835
yes, and you go to stop posting a lain with fag posts.
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>>181723274
Lain is the queen of /a/, Togashitter.
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>>181721835
I adore them compared to MHA fags
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>>181709782
>No Nakama bullshit
It's dialed way back but it's there. Especially in the Yorknew arc
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>>181722071
Kiss and hold me!!
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>>181723345
Yes, I mean you stop posting the goddess lain with posts of shit, stupid anon

**>also
LONG LIFE LAIN**
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Hunter x Hunter is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive exposition and FAGGOTRY. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for autistic low-IQ posters, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of shitposting both in their own threads and in the rest of /a/. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to appear smart, the pretentiousness of the author, endless haitus, pointless expositions from side characters no one give a shit about, and the whole gay clown faggotry. Everything about the Hunter world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the chapter-long walls of text, lack of emphasis on art, and overall shallowness of the series make it fit just right with the pseudo-intellectual drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up and pollute the rest of /a/ with their soft-seinen bullshit and /v/-tier fanbase wars.

Hunter x Hunter is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Haitus x Haitus threads ever encourage the newfaggots to show their faces here.
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>>181716128
>Deconstruction is inherently good
Postmodernists are the biggest pseuds
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>>181721835
hunterchads are kino, the term soft-seinen that they invented is hilarious
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>>181723747
I'm surprised that this pasta fits so well for Hunterfags
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>>181723747
>t.
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>>181723846
shoutout to all dem seinen bros
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>>181709215
Is this what inspired the new Joker movie?
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Just in case some faggots dare claiming that the '99 version is supposedly more kino than the more faithful 2011 adaptation, show them pic related and they will immediately shut their mouths.
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>>181710460
But how is the history of manga going to change? History is in the past.
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>>181710758
>Name one author who paid an homage to himself
Steel Ball Run and Jojolion are filled with that. Also I will name Fukumoto.
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>>181724777
JoJofags and FKMTfags are all seinen bros, of course they can appreciate Togashi.
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>>181725037
Togshi is shounen though, and he'll never be anything else.
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>>181725037
Speak for yourself faggot.
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>>181725037
Fucking hell, you people are delusional.
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>>181725117
/my queen/ is so cute
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>>181725071
>>181725087
>>181725130
Eat shit shonenbabies. Jojobros, HxHbros and FMKTbros are the holy trinity of seinen.
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>>181725259
I like all three of these and I still recognize the fact that Togashi makes standard battle shounen. You have mental health problems and need medication.
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>>181725287
>I like all three of these and I still recognize the fact that Togashi makes standard battle shounen
You are an imposter and doesn't deserve to read such ingenuity.
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>>181725259
HxH is not nor will it ever be seinen.
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>>181702872
I think what makes this series desirable is that it is different, moreso than it being an undisputed masterpiece. It is definitely "good" if you take the story elements, setups, and characters, and just evaluate them in your mind according to shonen. Because, most shonen is way less effortful and exacting at its worldbuilding. HXH has it's own made-up just about everything. Sometimes that fools you into thinking the story will go everywhere that implies to you.

I don't like it because it's better. I like it because it suggests you could do a lot of creative things, and it feels good to imagine that's the industry you are invested in, and not year after year of generic shit. Whether or not he is good at what he does, the author is "an outsider" in a way that makes his work relate well, to people who see themselves as "slightly different."

Although, treating this series like it is some kind of masterpiece has become a meme in weeb world lately.
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>>181725348
Shonen-Seinen hybrid i would say. The current arc is way too multilayered and complex structured to just call it a "Shonen" and be done with it.
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>>181725441
You don't know what words mean. It's published in WSJ, that makes is shounen. That is all it will ever be. Content does not matter.
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Who the fuck makes all these pastas?
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>>181725461
HxH is more challenging than any other Shonen out there and magazines such as Jump are just memes that don't tell you how deep a series really is. You're lacking fundamentals to understans basic shit like this.
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>>181725543
It's published in WSJ, therefore it's shounen.
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*Ahem*
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>>181725563
?
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>>181725557
Seinen disguised as a Shonen*
there ftfy
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>>181725612
It's published in WSJ, therefore it's shounen.
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>>181725648
>I can't physically see God, so there is no God.
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>>181725441
Shonen isn't a genre. It just refers to the demographic of its magazine.

HXH is published in Weekly Shonen Jump. It's a shonen.
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>>181725715
It's published in WSJ, therefore it's shounen.
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>>181725745
Read HxH first and then try to tell me again that it's a shonen with a straight face.
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>>181725820
It's published in WSJ, therefore it's shounen.
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>>181725859
Dumb parrot, i'm done with you.
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>>181725887
So you finally got it?
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>hunterniggers are such fucking lunatics they actually believe that their childish shit is seinen
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>>181726018
That's funny coming from a Berserkfag
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>>181725512
most of them are just ripped from the MAL reviews, there's an endless supply
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How the fuck did this even happen? Why are HxH threads are now console wars-tier garbage? What's with all the incomprehensible shitposting?
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>>181726205
Berserk has gone soft lately but it did have its fair share of morbid shit and dark themes Assuming that's what you mongoloids use to define "Seinen" and was/is actually fucking published in a Seinen magazine.
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>>181726018
>>181726426
It's not even hunterfags, soft seinen and other Rick and Morty-tier shit is obvious falseflagging.
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>>181726426
I don't think HxH is a seinen. Don't lump me in in with the shitposters. I'm just saying that Berserk isn't the most mature thing, having gore and rape for the sake of shock value isn't mature.
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>>181726599
stop posting pics of my wife without my permission k thx
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I don't even watch or read HxH but I shitpost both for and against it for (You)s.
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>>181726753
"Shock value is the potential of an action, image, text, or other form of communication to provoke a reaction of sharp disgust, shock, anger, fear, or similar negative emotions"

Rape and gore will always have shock value, dummy.
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>>181727106
Just adding it in to create shock value is what I was talking about.
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>>181715919
Yes.
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>>181727364
Who is she talking to?
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Hxh is a series that I once loved, the anime that is, now after finishing the anime I went into the manga and quickly realise a problem this series has had in the anime, but now, it was more apparent in the manga. The problem is the absurd amount of dialogue and monologue within it that makes it ridiculous, the author of HxH decided that every single character is going to have long monologue and dialogue, but it's even worse when the characters are just redshirts.

The latest arc is especially guilty of this, basically, we as the reader are forced to see the point of view of literally every single character in this arc; the guards of the Prince's, the Prince's, guards of a Prince stalking another Prince, people associated to a Prince, people keeping an eye on another Prince, the Mafia Bosses, Hunters, the guards of the Mafia Bosses, the people from branch families, all of the underlings of the people from branch families as well, and we can go on and on — I wouldn't be surprised if we start getting the point of view from the trees, cats, dogs and basically everything else. You get the point. This is not interesting at all and it's just a chore to read. Sure you can say that he is amazing for giving redshirts their moments and making them feel important, but, truth be told, redshirts will always be redshirts! You can give them a few dialogues or give them a purpose later on without watering down the series quality by having them talk about stuff, we as the readers, are already aware of. I also saw the Viz translation, and it's a bit better, but still, its too dialogue heavy and unnecessary — just pointing that out before someone says it is Mangastream's fault, btw this is wall x text the manga.
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>>181727978
Togashi is like a student that is writing an essay that should be 800 words in length and thinks that writing a 2000 word essay instead will impress the teacher. That is basically how a lot of the fans are behaving as well, I've seen HxH fans praising the series because it has so many dialogues and saying how long it took them to read a single chapter, like it was some type of accomplishment, while other HxH fans are saying they feel dumb because they are not understanding the plot. The truth is, the reason why some people are having difficulty in understanding the plot is because Togashi, as a writer, is failing to express his work to his readers properly, because all he is doing is throwing dialogue and monologue at his fans and telling them that they should figure out his mess, I'm not sure how the editor even approve these chapters. If this was a monthly manga then that could be an excuse to why some fans are forgetting vital points, but it's a weekly series which means it should be easier to follow and remember. Togashi is also lacking in the "show but not tell" type of storytelling, he would rather lazily tell the audience every tiny detail, even the irrelevant ones.

I'm sure Togashi has planned out everything in this arc and that he knows what he is doing, but he is not executing it properly if half of his fans feel like it is a chore to read his manga, it just means he is not writing this arc in a creative way. At the end of the day, its the author's story, but he is writing his story to his fans, and if his fans are not liking it, something is clearly wrong. Togashi may have a brilliant idea, but if he is not executing it properly then it is all a waste.
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>>181728007

This manga overall is a chore to read and it is boring for me personally, the characters for HxH has always been decent for me, I never had a problem with the characters, I don't think they are anything special but at the same time, I don't think they are bad. I don't like the art style because it is drawn in a generic style that I, personally don't like, but its even worst when it is not drawn properly by Togashi. In saying that, the art really doesn't affect my enjoyment that much, since there isn't much art, to begin with.

Overall, this manga is a 4/10, and I don't feel like Togashi is taking advantage of his imagination. I know he can do way better than this, and perhaps this series will be a bit more bearable to watch when it's animated, whenever that is.

To people that are still enjoying this series, more power to you, but at least try to understand why some peoples are not enjoying it, without talking down on them or challenging their intelligence, because I've seen that a lot.

As a university student, reading HxH feels like reading a school textbook, the only purpose is for you to temporarily memorize information just to pass a test. HxH is at the borderline of a school textbook than a fictional book, which basically sums up how I currently feel for this series, and I'm having a lot of doubt that my opinion will ever change.
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>>181727978
>>181728007
>>181728038
Which cringehole did you steal this from?
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>>181728077
>no argument
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>>181728158
You are a good girl anon, also gn ily
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>>181728099
If I wanted to argue it would be with the nigger who wrote it, not the nigger who merely copypasted it.
That's why I asked that question.
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>>181728242
>can't refute any of my points so you resort to ignoring it
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>>181728038
>thinks the anime is better than manga
say what you will about the dialogue heavy nature of this arc but the manga overall is much better than the anime. CA dragged on so much and effectively ruined palace invasion. greed island was rushed over wasn't given proper time like in the manga. In fact, no arc in the 2011 anime is better done than in the manga from the saccharine colors and music to the bad pacing. The 99 anime is the best adaptation and you can argue that it does things better than the manga.
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>>181702872
I think Oda is a better writer but Togashi cares more about the intricacies of his work.
Different strokes for different folks.
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Togashi needs to just write and do the panelling but let someone else draw
Hes wasting his amazing talent by being too fucking lazy to just work on his manga
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>>181725287
>Togashi makes standard battle shounen.
Can you even name at least one other shonen that does/get away with what Togashi has done with the DC arc? Basic bitch vague connections like similar powers don't count.
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i agree

no idea why people pretend to be hype about the literally WHO entire cast of new characters on the boat


boooooooring
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>>181727106
Rape and gore are the easiest way to get people invested. If those two elements were gone, do you think Berserk would have the status it's barely holding on to today?
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>>181724695
KINO
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Who Seinen here?
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>>181733862
Me
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>>181724695
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>>181733862
HxH is seinen now. It used to be shounen, but that changed with the current arc. Only a retard would think current HxH is a shounen.
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>>181702872
Agreed it sucks. Togashi is a pretty solid creator but for HxH specifically he's not good at telling a long-form story. Level-E is short and good, YYH (if you stop at the Dark Tournament) is good, and I find early HxH arcs to be pretty charming
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>>181710763
This also need the one anon explanation on how Gon is a copy of kid Goku and how the Chimera Ant arc and Meruem is a copy of Cell's arc.
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>>181733948
We /lit/
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>>181735594
Chapter Black is great for the most part, Demon Yusuke aside.
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>>181724695
I felt the 99 version was more kino in the Yorkshin arc and in how it made the world more realistically believable, but that was obviously great stuff. We don't know how 99 would have handled the Ant arc though

My main issue with 2011 is how it handles 'motion,' in 1999 clothes and physics and all kinds of things feel a little more... Physical? 99 ver tried semi realism in how movement was portrayed. Like when Killua was caught stalking spiders, in 1999 his room hopping speed had a bit more movement and so did his legs when caught by Phinx. On the other hand, 2011 put more detail and visual beauty into the chase itself and just had Killua flash around the room ala DBZ. Things just seem to lack 'weight' in 011, I guess
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>>181725745
>>181725859

see >>181710393

You are being disingenuous
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>>181724695
Peak kino.
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the only manga that actually deserves the title of "soft seinen" would be SZS, and that's because an absolute madman somehow got to write his hardcore political satire/critique in a book literally called "weekly boys magazine" for years just by having a bit of eyecandy

if a character has ever powered up or someone has spent time explaining in depth how the magic system works it's something for children and/or manchildren & yes that includes HXH, even if people spend a really long time playing "I know that you know that I know" BEFORE powering up and throwing a punch
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>>181737940
What's clear is that the director of 99 knows that an adaptation doesn't have to be at 1:1 ratio with the manga. They are two separate things entirely, so that allows for some freedom in how to approach a few scenes. The city of Yorkshin felt more like an actual city in 99 due to the atmosphere and little things like gradually showing the change from sunset to nighttime with the streetlights turning on. If they had a good budget, the CA arc would have been something.
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>>181741975
>The city of Yorkshin felt more like an actual city in 99 due to the atmosphere and little things like gradually showing the change from sunset to nighttime with the streetlights turning on.
I definitely need to rewatch '99 soon. It really showed how important atmosphere is in a story
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Can I get the full power ranking list of clown posting?
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>>181702872
Yeah. Even Black Clover outsold it this year.
HxH is truly the FT of jump.
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>>181744287
What's up with this meme? I've seen it a couple of times already
>The amount of copies HxH Vol. 36 has sold adds up 914,678 as of yet.
source:
https://twitter.com/HxHSource/status/1070420064879304704
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>>181744660
>not even a million
Lame af
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Has anyone tried the new mobile game?
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>>181747645
You are a goddess, anon!!
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>>181702872

>laziness

>more writing and actual story and plot in a single chapter than most shounen get in a month

He doesn't take hiatus because he's lazy, he takes them so he doesn't burn out and start churning out shit he truly doesn't care about. that's what happened to Kubo, and it's why Bleach went to utter shit.


I don't get why you faggots whine, we all know none of you even buy it, you just read it free online. why do you care when it comes out? he doesn't owe you anything.

Through many years of work and multiple succesful series, Togashi has earned a position in the industry where he can afford to just goi "no, I'm taking a break right now till I feel actual inspiration" rarther than working like a slave like most mangaka.

He's mad tons of money, and he's married to the chick who made Sailor Moon. he already never has to work again and could just retire if he wanted, he keeps going out of enjoyment, which in turn produces a better product than "well I just gotta crank out something to meet my weekly deadline"


quit whining about shit you get for free.
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>>181702872
I stopped caring when the hiatus became common place. It's not worth waiting or keeping up with. I'll finish if it ever actually gets finished.
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>>181748021
Anon what the fuck are you talking about Togahack is lazy as fuck. What kind of professional mangaka publish pages of words and words with no exposition whatsoever?
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>>181748327

The king who's willing to do actual work and apply his brain to his series.

if he wanted less work, he could just fill his manga with empty scenes of backrounds and shit that he has assistants to draw for him.instead, he has pages FILLED with text and dialogue and information, creating a huge interconnecting plotline


managing something like that takes FAR more effort than just drawing some people standing around saying a few words
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>>181737729
What
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>>181748491
He could actually SHOWN the story instead of just filling pages with wordswordswords you cocksucker. If a writer does that kind of shit on any comic (and hell a lot of they actually do) they are called hacks. Why would it be different with Togashi? Because ''muh deep and complex seinen? Fuck off.
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>>181748976
O
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>>181749009
MY
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>>181749068
SHOW
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>>181749068
RUBBER
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>>181749090
DON'T
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>>181749168
DUCK
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>>181749208
TELL
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>>181728077
it's all from MAL reviews
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>>181749068
NAME
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>>181748976
Nice cherrypick. You're free to ignore 90% of the chapter if you want, unless you'd complain that it has words at all. If so, brush up on general literacy at your local grade school.

O My WerdsToTheThirds :(
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>>181749354
>O my cocksucking nen
fixed anon :)
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>>181749314
IS
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>>181749504
SLIM
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>>181749551
SHADY
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>>181749168
AND
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>>181749504
CLEVELAND BROWN
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>>181749708
GUMMY
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>>181749797
BEARS
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HxH but the past 10 chapters proved Togashi has no idea how to finish this arc satisfyingly. So many wasted pages and panels of pointless back and forth talking. First rule of writing is you only put in the absolute bare minimum of what needs to be said.
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>>181711911
What the fuck, I need to check this out
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>>181750580
>HxH but the past 10 chapters proved Togashi has no idea how to finish this arc satisfyingly
Show me the proof.
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>>181750580
Remember when everyone was excited for the banquet when it was shown in a cliff hanger?
Good times.
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These ten chapters have been such a mixed bag for me. I was immensely enjoying everything before that and gorged myself on the exposition and character introductions. There are some very memorable action packed moments like all the Halkenburg, twins, and Tseriednich stuff but the prose has been lacking that spark which makes me want to digest it all.

I've told myself to give Togashi the benefit of the doubt given his track record, but with his reflections on not being able to finish the series at the previous pace before he dies comes a bittersweet feeling. It feels as though he's rushing to get all the exposition out so he can get to the major story beats, when I was enjoying the former just as much.
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>>181749935
wow
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>>181728007
>>181728038
Based and OnePiecepilled
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Hisoka wasn't in the CA arc despite being in every arc in the story because he would've killed Meruem by himself.
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>>181751487
Could he beat any royal guard member? Maybe he could tie down Pouf.
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>>181752116
more
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>>181718483
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>>181718662
>>181718851
>>181719142
Damn you guys are fucking autists.
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Pitou and I are getting married and you're all invited!
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>>181731003
yes, because there are tons of manga out there with rape and gore and no one gives a shit about it.
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>>181755136
Pitou is a lucky girl
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>>181727290
Rape and gore will always add shock value, you can't add them and not cause it.
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>>181750580
this nigga tryina tell Togashi how to write
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>>181755803
Count me in!
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Chrollo cheated because he knew he would've lost in a real 1 on 1 fight against Hisoka.
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>>181759402
it is known
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>>181759402
>>181760139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc3pRRK2_X4
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>>181760240
Based Hunterchad exposing the truth about Chrollo.
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>>181724695
You're just proving us right. That's why you used material that the 99 version didn't have.
Actually compare arcs from both versions, faggot.
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>>181727978
>>181728007
>>181728038
Imagine being this contrarian. there's no reason to take your argument seriously since it is born out of personal bias, thus invalidating your critique.
>perhaps this series will be a bit more bearable to watch when it's animated
bait right there folks
>As a university student
What are you studying?
nice larp
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>>181760601
>Actually compare arcs from both versions, faggot.
I was already going to make a new chart, this time covering the GI arc in both adaptations. But first, I've to finish my essay on the Succession Arc and how it'll change manga history. So please, let me finish this first.
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>>181750631
She was actually deemed as the strongest character in YYH, even stronger than Yusuke. Too bad we never got to see her fight except for an anime-only fight that tries to deal with the issues handled in that chapter. They edited that backstory out of the anime
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>>181714190
Uvo is nowhere near gon-san tier
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>>181750631
>>181711911
her captor got it bad in the end
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>>181711967
if only this was like that page from kokou no hito, that was so good
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>>181725037
Tite Kubo with Zombie Powder and later on Bleach with Burn the Witch.
He created the Kuboverse, something Togashi will never be able to achieve.
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>>181702872
i hate bait threads
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>viz Monday is free now
Time flies
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>>181764694
How are they going to make cash now?
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>>181755310
>you have to be as successful as Togashi in order to provide any criticism at all
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>>181750731
Even just these top 3 panels here can be condensed into one. You don't need to show a panel showing their heads, and then their feet. Why their feet again?
No it doesn't build tension like you may think it does. It's simply a waste of panelling.

Togashi clearly has no idea how to get to the end of this arc.
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>>181712099
No, Demon Yusuke was and will always be fucking stupid.
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>>181750731
The top 4 panels can be condensed into 2 panels or even 1. Just show multiple dialogue boxes left and right in the same panel, it'll take less space than fucking showing one panel to show their face every time one speaks.
It doesn't build tension, it doesn't establish hierarchy, it only wastes time.
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>>181750731
>you guys go talk to them
Panel can easily be placed as plain dialogue in the panel right above. No point it existing as its own panel.
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>>181750731
The top left panel of Benjamin and his nigger 2IC staring into space serves no purpose.
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>>181748021
>he takes them so he doesn't burn out and start churning out shit
If that's the case then there should be zero asspulls and the art should be consistently great but that's not the case now is it?
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>>181727978
Rihan isn't necessarily a redshirt. It is a safe guess that the Benji boys who outlive Benjamin will join Kurapika against Tserriednich. Babimyna is guaranteed to be in that group. Maybe Rihan might too.

And even if he dies before that, it means he'll die unleashing Predator against Halkenburg, and it is very likely that Benjamin then uses Predator against Tserriednich.

So whatever happens in the future, Rihan will probably be somewhat important, and information like "Predator can attack the Nen user if it is an enhancer/emitter" and "Predator will still damage the target if it can't kill" could easily end up being important.
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>>181766337
There are two asspulls in hxh. Both in the election arc, which was published in 30 continuous weeks.
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>>181750731
Top left panel in this page is a waste. Doesn't succeed in building tension or whatever the fuck Togashi is trying to do with this.
Bottom left panel of Granny here is also dumb.
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>>181766138
By placing the characters as large faces close to one another, while maintaining a friendly mannerism, intimacy is established. It shows that Zhang Lei genuinely trusts O'Neor.
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>>181750731
Top 2 panels in this space are a HUGE waste of space. Sick of Togashi drawing nothing but guards standing around in identical looking rooms.
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>>181766207
>>181766259
Literally pauses to explain that some time passes between events. As if the characters were surprised, which they are.
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>>181750731
Bottom left panel should be placed 2 panels above it in some dialogue box.
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>>181750731
The door creaking panel is pointless.
Same with the panel on the bottom left. It can all easily be shown as 1 panel with the door opening and all 3 of them stepping out.
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>>181766716
Again. The character is taking a while to think things out.

Even in a book you would write something like. "The leader of the untouchables took a deep breath and paused for a moment" in order to create the humanizing narrative flow of a character thinking.
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>>181750731
The giant panel in the middle here is completely pointless. Togashi is a hack.
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>>181766917
>Even in a book
>Even
You meant to say
>in a book you would
This isn't a book. It's not EVEN a light novel.

>>181766784
>some time
Except no time passes. The character just continues talking.
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>>181766758
>>181766889
Literally shows the anxiety in our POV characters by having them notice even the sound of the door. They were clearly waiting for this moment.
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>>181767007
Literally pointless.
Togashi wastes precious panels/pages he should use for either more useful dialogue, plot or action.

I probably wouldn't even hate this all as much as I do if he never took hiatuses. I'd still criticise it because it's objectively a waste, but it wouldn't outright annoy me.
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>>181766930
Maor inspects his surroundings after entering a room alone. He is slightly afraid and doesn't want to fall into a trap.
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>>181767076
If that were the case Togashi would draw the panel from Maor's point of view, showing the entire room looking at him.
As it was drawn here, however, it was nothing but a mere background panel.

You either don't have the ability to read the vibe of a manga or you're making shit up to excuse Togashi's hackness. Or both.
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>>181767003
You would do the same thing in a movie. Ever seen a Tarantino film where the camera just focuses on footsteps?

>he just continues talking
When you talk with another human being you make pauses while you talk even if they don't stop you, just so they get a chance to make observations
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>>181710337
anon, are you sure you just don't dislike shonen and everything in it?
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>>181767214
>You would do the same thing in a movie
Is this a movie?
So this... is the comprehension power... of Togashitters...
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>>181710542
If this is a defense of an example of a 'good' example of visual-media storytelling, you've failed.
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>>181767032
In the small panel, the space spent is barely noticeable. You could have easily left that space blank.

You have a point in the big panel, somewhat. But it is also important to end the page in the maid leaving the room in order to make Furykov's analysis in the next pagr gain extra emphasis. As a mangaka, you'd be dumb to not abuse the page-turn.
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>>181767136
You would need a spread to show the whole room. And we do get a panel from Maor's POV that shows what calms him down: Queen Oito. Which is what is important for the next page
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>>181721656
RUBBER
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>>181767620
AND
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>>181767266
Do you want me to post Urasawa pages or something? He does the same thing but without the exclamation mark.
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>>181760511
BRAP
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>>181760511
IWTCINP
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>>181767620
NEN
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>>181767475
>You would need a spread to show the whole room
Don't need to show the whole room. Serves no purpose.
>and we do get a panel from Maor's POV
Good, so we don't need that wide shot panel. Thank you for agreeing.
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>>181767658
>some other manga does it so therefore it's good!
These page wastes are bad. They don't enhance the series. The series would be better without them.
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>>181767379
>the space spent is barely noticeable
So you agree with me again. Good.
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>>181766034
Obviously anyone can critique him, but these examples themselves are hilarious because they guy has zero grasp for nuance(ie. a woman take a moment to think and then speaks and the anon takes that as pointless filler). It also speaks to balance and composition on the page itself, which someone saying "proceed forwards proceed forwards" on loop probably holds in little regards.

This one >>181766082 in particular annoys me the most. The upper third of the page is the hallway for the princes, the next third is the go-between, and the final third is the hallway to Onior. The paneling shows him having left his room,and the next two lead into the turn and walk. Cutting out room exit could be done but rushes the pacing while the walking segment is supposed to reveal new information about the area since we last saw it. The guards around the area have doubtlessly increased following Halkenburg's stunt, which I guarantee you this guy did not pick up on. I'd expect their response to be "oh just condense it all into an angle of them leaving the room and the hallway" as if that isn't a needless clusterfuck, but they talked about tension and missed the information reveal in the first place. If they analyzed Balance's chapter they definitely wouldn't pick up on the entire schtick of the first half of the chapter and would make their "fixes" in a way that would completely throw it off.

And it's always annoying when people post shitty Mangastream versions whenever they complain about something. At least this stuff is only partially complaining about dialogue.
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>>181768209
>as if that isn't a needless clusterfuck
Better than the waste of pages we're getting now.
Oh and
>complaining about clusterfucks in the literal novel that is HxH
LOL
O
L
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>>181768354
You did a real good job skipping the unimportant panels in my post. I'd say this is hiatus season posting, but people tend to show signs of extreme ADD even when it isn't.
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>>181768209
Prove to me this series wouldn't be better without so much wasted panels as in the many examples posted above.
>b-but it would be too rushed and wouldn't build tension
Doesn't build tension now. Togashi doesn't have the ability as a mangaka. It's clear he's wasting panels just so he could finish his 10 chapters and be done with it.

And don't even get me started on the bullshit that was the change manga forever stunt his editor pulled (which you all defended with "B-BUT IT WAS THE ENTIRE MANUSCRIPT THE EDITOR WAS REFERRING TO... J-JUST WAIT UNTIL THE ENTIRE 10 CHAPTERS ARE FINISHED).
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>>181768413
There comes a point where whether you like the panels or not is just preference, so I couldn't objectively do that. The panels help to bridge the gaps between events and a lot of the time they add a more human dynamic to a broad cast of characters which is what ends up pulling in so many people. Other times it's done to satisfy the composition of the whole page. If you don't appreciate that or you don't think it builds tension(which will be more frequent if you're the type to read quickly and get upset about pacing or needless panels) that's just a matter of preference, because obviously people who are or aren't impacted by something can't be objectively wrong. At most they can be failing to pick up on some story developments that are told through panels rather than words. Another example of that would be the door page the guy posted, which the poster missed the point of.

The editor just said that because he had been working on BNH and had a culture shock. He was definitely referring to 383(maybe Theta vs. Tse but I doubt it) and yeah it was a really good chapter, but obviously he didn't "change the history of manga" when it didn't even resolve its plotline. Doesn't really have anything to do with Togashi.
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>>181702872
>are deluding themselves by saying that "It'll be good eventually."
Nobody is saying this retard. We already think that it is good. People like you have no nuance and either think something is brilliant or terrible. Even if you don't think that hxh is as good as people say, calling it terrible is clearly just going full retard and it is not the case. I am completely fine with people saying that it is not the god tier shonen that the fans say it is (I am not even a fan of shonen for the most part anyway), but I think anyone can see that it is at the VERY LEAST a serviceable shonen on par with all the other big shonen.

Take your head outta your ass and try to be a little objective for once in your life
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>>181703799
>So yeah, the series is pretty great up until Gon meets his dad.
So... the entire show is great then? Fine by me
>>181704717
nailed it. OP is just a fag who likes to dramatise everything and is probably a bitter virgin who picks holes in literally everything and then wonders why no one wants to be around him
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Wack
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>>181768596
I didn't miss any points, I was just saying he could have better spent those panel spaces to make the manga better and more enjoyable. When you know you only have a limited number of pages/chapters to do something, you have to get the point across in that limited number. You don't waste what precious pages/panels you do have ATTEMPTING to build some make-believe tension which Togashi clearly failed to establish because so many fucking people hated these.

inb4 >based Togashi weeding out the low IQ shitters

Even you yourself admitted that I was partially correct in at least some of my points, meaning even you noticed this shit. I exaggerated it for the point of emphasis, sure, but I'm clearly not the only one to notice this. You brushing any criticism with shit like
>Togashi is a rich and famous writer, we can naturally assume he's better than you
Is a cute attempt at a rebuttal but is ultimately incorrect. You don't have to be a pro athlete to realise that a basketball player missing the shot means he's bad at making shots at the hoops.
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>>181769526
Nice gyno fgt
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The worst part about these last 10 chapters is I can't even say I'm excited for the next 10 chapters. I'd rather continued hiatus than continually show every single character's viewpoint and discussion on what they think is happening across every other character.
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>>181769526
That's a cute ant girl.
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>>181769661
You're a cute ant girl, anon.
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>>181702872
>extremely low effort bait thread
>500 replies

yeah, I don't think I will ever grow tired of watchi vg /a/'s tsun-tsun antics towards Hunterchad-kun. And to think this is all the work of a couple of falseflaggers who succeeded in their purpose. Really puts /a/ average IQ into perspective.
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>>181702872
t. BnHAfag (Miriolet)
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>>181773486
Bumping own thread from page 9 with bait again.
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>>181767322
No it's a : How to shut down cherrypickers and shitposters efficiently.
And it looks like it was a success.
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Personally I'm glad chimera ant arc ended the way it did. But only thing I didn't want was shit that came after it.
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>>181774995
I would prefer if my wife Pitou survived.
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>>181776592
Me too.
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>>181710485
I love HxH, but Togashi should have found another way to convey information without this kind of exposition dump.
Am i reading a manga or a novel?
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>>181777647
Novels aren't written this badly.
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>>181709529
You missed the whole point.. being a hunter isn't using your license to be a tourist. Its to do whatever you want. Gin left his family just to explore.
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>>181766758
he needs to kill 17 pages while also barely giving new stuff so bodyguards standing around the same place is the perfect formula
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>>181703272
Why is luffy brown skinned?
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>>181778204
>expecting shonenbabies to get the core theme of this series
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HxH was always pretty mediocre at best and it will never surpass YYH.
Togashi knows it and after all of these hiatuses he clearly doesn't give a shit about this shit series at all. Let the dead rest in piece that nothing of value was lost.
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>>181780516
HXH is a lot more interesting with respect to scenarios and plots than YYH. I think YYH had great characters, but HXH is a more thoughtful and dynamic read.

I like YYH but it squandered its strengths on tournaments and relatively basic 1 on 1 fights. And then it completely shat the bed with the Sensui fight.
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>>181765957
Easy. Website ads and clicks, along with having a backlog to just read for people to dumb to torrent



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